2007 Amel 54: why, pros, cons and costs // The cost of cruising compared - Part 3

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Ryan & Sophie Sailing

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This is the third and last episode of our mini series on the cost of cruising, in which we compare the cost of cruising different boats.
In this episode, we will take a closer look at our friend’s sailboat, an Amel 54 from 2007 named Tengah. We take a boat tour, talk about why Scott and Mie chose the Amel, what they like about it and how much work it is to take care of her.
Finally, Scott and Mie reveal how much cruising an Amel 54 costs.
Before we start I need to mention the fact that Scott and Mie, the owners of Tengah, are the people who I know have worked the most to both buy Tengah and maintain her. Those guys do absolutely everything by themselves and everyday that we spent at the same marina, they were working on Tengah from dawn to dusk.
So I hope that you’ll join me in thanking them for making some time for us to come and open up about their life onboard Tengah!
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@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Bottom line: cruising can be done on pretty much any budget and on anyone's premises. The cost of cruising is the product of our choices, priorities, and pocket depth, but at the end of the day, we all get to enjoy the same sunsets :) I hope you found those videos insightful, and that we all meet at a marina or anchorage someday! /Sophie
@SailingAquarius
@SailingAquarius 5 жыл бұрын
The first year we owned Aquarius (an Amel Super Maramu 2000) we spent close to $50,000 US upgrading her. But, we have been cruising on about $1500 per month for maintenance the last year and 1/2. There are months that might be $6000, but not too many of them. The big expenses: Running Rigging $12K, Solar/Wind with Davits $12K, Batteries $3K to $8K (depends on what kind), Bottom Job $3.5K (Paint/Anti-foul)... But, I don't think that they will spend USD$55K to USD$60K each year moving forward to maintain a 2007 Amel54. There is a learning curve... Every mistake costs about $1000. Trying to take the ballooner down on Anchor, that cost me $1000. Leaving the Ballooner up in too much wind, another $1K. These are expensive mistakes that I hope to make once. But as you get to know your boat you will make fewer of these "mistakes". And thus your maintenance bill goes down. Fair Winds... Sailing Aquarius
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 5 жыл бұрын
@@SailingAquarius I hope you're right! Along that vein, yes, a lot of the maintenance costs were deferred maintenance issues that inevitably show up when a previous owner has left the boat sitting for a bit after deciding to sell. The genoa and staysail furlers alone were nearly 40% of the total maintenance cost - hopefully I don't have to replace those every year! I am going to keep the 50-55k expectation since 10% of purchase cost seems to be an oft-repeated number and hope to be pleasantly surprised. You are definitely right about the learning curve, though!
@srqlisa7881
@srqlisa7881 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I learned from watching another channel and this is for you and your friends boat insurance, double check with your broker they sometimes dont' tell you that coverage may only be when in harbor/marina may not be covered if not if not docked. : ) peace
@svgarulfo
@svgarulfo 5 жыл бұрын
SV Tengah yes Aquarius is right, you pay a lot of money riding the learning curve, and then it gets better. 10% is overestimated for higher end boats. For instance, travelift costs and antifoul paint costs depend on boat size, not boat price. And you can count on better specs for systems and build quality to save on maintenance costs (proportionally, of course).
@pvdprasad1
@pvdprasad1 4 жыл бұрын
srq lisao
@SailingAquarius
@SailingAquarius 5 жыл бұрын
Z and I have been sailing Aquarius for 2 years now, and just did the last 12 months of sailing budget. We spent an average of $4500 per month, including Maintenance, Food, Insurance, Spares, Marinas, Moorings, Light Bulbs, Engine Oil, Filters, etc. Basically everything to do with LIFE on Aquarius. This also includes all the Camera Equipment we bought! We have about $4K of camera equipment on board now. We do our budget monthly, pay most of our bills with credit cards, and then go over the statements and put the numbers into a spreadsheet. We are almost down the the penny with what we spend, including what we spend in cash. Like I said in an earlier post, the first year you can spend a $H!!!TL00D of cash. And some of the money spent your first year (or sometimes most of it) will be a complete MISTAKE.. Because you don't really know what cruising is, and you don't really know what you need cruising, until you have done it for a year or two and talked to countless sailers that have cruised for over 10 years. You may find you don't need much at all, or you may find you like all the bells and whistles. Cruising changes you! Back to the basics! Check us out our KZfaq channel at Sailing Aquarius... Best, and to sum it up... Just Do It! All budgets welcome! (OK there is a bottom line, of about $2000 per month all in... Maybe lower?)
@teunisbaas8888
@teunisbaas8888 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with Ken's numbers; they jive (are in line) with the numbers I have seen from other AMEL cruisers. Also agree with spending $H!!!TLOAD of cash the 1st year as well as making the "complete MISTAKEs" plural in my case as I made many unnecessary replacements hahahahahahaha as I just wanted the boat to be mechanically "perfect" to compensate for my cruising inadequacies; for example the new furlers - but once installed I realized what a tremendous improvement they were over the 2nd generation BAMAR; hence more safe. I am now really working towards the USD5K a month but having to put the boat for the whole cyclone season (otherwise you wouldn't get the berth) in the NOUMEA marina already shot a USD1500/mnth hole iso of being on my own mooring 500 meters away. But we were hit 2 weeks ago by cyclone OMA and the ketch anchored next to my mooring went on the rocks and sunk.
@landsea3682
@landsea3682 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Aquarius! How are you doing? We are contemplating upgradng from a 24 footer to something a little bigger.... like an Amel Super Maramu for example. Your budget indication is of much interest. Does your $4500/month spend include the purchase of your new sails for example? and amortisation of other big $$ equipment or is this the general running of the boat, mooring fees, food, haulouts/anitfouling etc.? Thx!
@RobotronOG
@RobotronOG 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot cheaper than 55k just in maintenance, Amel may work for me after all lol
@gavinlee2742
@gavinlee2742 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to thank Sophie, Marky and SV Tengah for being so open about their boats. Really appreciated the miniseries. Best wishes in your adventures.
@JCAJCA3
@JCAJCA3 5 жыл бұрын
What a great series! The Amel is stunning. One thing that struck me though at the end of the video was that ALL the voyagers get to see the same beautiful sunrises and sunsets no matter what boat brought them there. It was the journey they all shared. Sophie you are great. GOD bless, JC
@robertmills794
@robertmills794 4 жыл бұрын
I see a pattern, buy an Amel find a pretty Swedish lady. Worked for Brian on Delos,.. seems to have worked here too.
@psystealth
@psystealth 3 жыл бұрын
she knows how the boat works ....? or is it a boat? he knows there's a center cockpit !!
@ChristofferETJ
@ChristofferETJ 2 жыл бұрын
Mie, the woman featured in this video, is actually Danish. Not that there is any real difference, but if you know what to listen for, you can distinguish the different accents quite clearly. If you are in doubt in real life, just ask what they have connected to their anchor. If they have Shane holding their anchor, they are Swedish. Of course, Scandinavians (and the Dutch) do not necessarily have a Scandinavian (Dutch) accent. Most do, but a significant percentage speak English with a British or American accent.
@fredread9216
@fredread9216 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative and honest video. These costs are toward the top of the range. And if you can afford it, great! My wife and I cruised an older but excellent cruising boat ( Cal 46) We had the usual full time cruising amenities. But no washer! An advantage of buying an older quality boat is that is came with a lot of amenities that I otherwise would not go out and buy. Electric winches, water maker, diesel generator. All old and not working, but after a year at anchor in the Baja and still enjoyed cruising the area. Fixed everything (sometimes with the help of Mexican ingenuity). We almost never took a dock. Just invested in good ground tackle and a good dingy. (Both very important if you want to avoid marinas and be more independent.). We bought the boat for 74k and put another 10k into her. We comfortably lived on about 30k per year for everything,: food, medical, insurance, boat maintenance and lots of SCUBA diving (carried all of our own dive gear and tank compressor.)The boat was paid for. We met people cruising for much less. It can be done. The cheapest I came Accross was a single retiree living on a total of 11k a yr. Yes he was struggling.
@gregpeer
@gregpeer 5 жыл бұрын
Great 3 part series. This is exactly what I was wondering. Perfect!
@moniquemedleycommercialpro2112
@moniquemedleycommercialpro2112 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for publishing these. Sophie, you are a natural behind the camera!
@chrischambers721
@chrischambers721 4 жыл бұрын
Sophie thank you so much for this fabulous mini-series. The honesty and open hearted discussion are invaluable to those of us hoping to follow our dreams..A brilliant insight!
@jastark22181
@jastark22181 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the layout of their amel
@marcostolk6422
@marcostolk6422 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sohpie for the insightful mini series!!!!
@storiestellr
@storiestellr 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are great and very informative. Charmingly done, and all people involved seem like you could easily spend an ocean passage with them ☀️
@mnardo638
@mnardo638 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this series. Loved that you explored the budget and costs for different boats and different budgets. We are in the planning stages for setting off and love these type of videos. You do a nice job on all your videos but I particularly enjoyed this set of them. Good luck and stay safe! Ciao
@inixio11
@inixio11 5 жыл бұрын
really loved this series...
@sdhales50
@sdhales50 5 жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed all your videos. This series did not disappoint. Thank you for all the effort you put in to present excellent videos.
@leonardkevin12
@leonardkevin12 5 жыл бұрын
That was a very informative, interesting and well done series. Thx!
@Bauchfalte
@Bauchfalte 4 жыл бұрын
Nowadays you can buy an decent Amel Super Maramu (52 feet) with exactly the same performance and almost the same comfort for 250.000,- €. In more then 50 years of sailing I sailed a lot of different ships. Not one of them came even close to the Amels. I am feeling very sad and sorry about the very new Amels which certainly are leaving the tracks of Henri Amel. They are sacrificing the very best ideas ever came true on sailing boats to modern design, what is a pity for sure. If you like to spend much less money, look out for older or smaller models like Santorin, Mango, Maramu or even Sharki. All of them still are perfect boats to sail around the world. You always can trust your life to an Amel Ship. And you always can sail them singlehandet if this will be necessary and you will always find Amel-Service around the world. There are so many sailingboats - Amels ever have been SAILINGSHIPS.
@cinemapigeon4898
@cinemapigeon4898 3 жыл бұрын
The Amel 50 and 60 are spectacular, what are your problems with them?
@Bauchfalte
@Bauchfalte 3 жыл бұрын
@@cinemapigeon4898 They left the rules behind, which Henry Amel once foundet. They are (beautiful) showboats for (high standard) holliday sailing. Serious Lifaboard-Sailers do need other boats. Boats like Supermaramus and the old 54 are theyr first choice. It is a pitty when designers make the rules, instead of engeniers and sailors.
@cinemapigeon4898
@cinemapigeon4898 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bauchfalte I mean, if the new Amel 60 was given to me for free, I certainly wouldn't complain.
@randystrand908
@randystrand908 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bauchfalte I'm only in the "dream stage" of sailing, but being retired, single and in pretty good shape physically, I'm gathering info and appreciate your comments of experience. I like equipment and gear and tools and fixing things so the ketch rigging has caught my attention. These Amel boats are looking very attractive for live-aboard use! How old - what years - should I be looking at to avoid the quality problems you have highlighted? (Also, if you have opinions re "best" all round Amel model/s, I'd very much appreciate your opinion on that as well.
@pred7949
@pred7949 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bauchfalte your opinions on this topic is really just a confession of character. You have given absolutely no reason of substance for your views, other than you dislike the design change after 20+ years of a boat with a few tweaks. There are enough Amels that look like the ones you like. The FACTS are that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the new Amel and the way they are heading.
@srqlisa7881
@srqlisa7881 5 жыл бұрын
She is a beautiful boat for sure there is no denying that. I wish we had more video of her cabinets and such. thank you so much for sharing your home with us. : ) peace
@lancer2204
@lancer2204 5 жыл бұрын
13:54 I can recall Brian on SV Delos saying of their Super Maramu "you will break before the boat does"
@Gatorforlife11
@Gatorforlife11 5 жыл бұрын
Great series! Very informative. I am looking forward to living on a boat soon.
@jtgrandtour4115
@jtgrandtour4115 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best, Joseph.
@reddbudd1849
@reddbudd1849 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, enjoyed all three videos very much. A lot of very good information. I really liked the three boat prospective, I'm trying to get back into sailing after 20 year away from it. (Raised two kids.) You made some very good points and gave me some things to think about as I look for my next boat.
@robertlee8042
@robertlee8042 5 жыл бұрын
What a perfunctory glossover tour of the interior.
@doxies
@doxies 3 жыл бұрын
Good video - love the 70's filter, music and cast.
@caromarco6315
@caromarco6315 2 жыл бұрын
Each of the 3 videos was very interesting!
@lauriebott3020
@lauriebott3020 5 жыл бұрын
Nice going with the music pairing . Lounge music and wood motif makes one yearn for scotch on the rocks and a dimly lighted room , which you showed here , Super good , Love your assistent
@gordonmcallister2566
@gordonmcallister2566 2 жыл бұрын
Great work on the video. And what a beautiful sailboat!
@ulisesvidana5440
@ulisesvidana5440 3 ай бұрын
Loved your ending! It is what sailing is about! Totalment! 👏🏻🥂🌹
@dufus2273
@dufus2273 5 жыл бұрын
thanks guys, nice video, very informative. Really like the center cockpit on the Amel. Idaho usa
@cyclomaniac9086
@cyclomaniac9086 5 жыл бұрын
Great series. Thanks
@kruzzik
@kruzzik 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome series. Thanks! You guys are an inspiration. Hoping to join the marina beer drinking club soon :)
@phantom2guy
@phantom2guy 5 жыл бұрын
Completely enjoyed by this mini-series, thanks a lot, it was really interesting and useful for me! P.S.: your boat is great :)
@gdespino
@gdespino 5 жыл бұрын
I love this boat. I wish I could get one. Good video. Cheers.
@apollomorris9920
@apollomorris9920 3 жыл бұрын
This has been vary helpful for me thanks for your help 🙂
@danielols1
@danielols1 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you all for sharing
@sfopaladin2661
@sfopaladin2661 3 жыл бұрын
When asked what else he wanted on board. I really thought he was going to say a tool shed and work shop! 😁 After seeing all the required maintenance & upkeep, he's going to need it!! 😎👍
@48William
@48William 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent job on these videos
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Billy! I appreciate the feedback a lot :)
@flobel1219
@flobel1219 5 жыл бұрын
stunning boat
@RR-or5ip
@RR-or5ip 3 жыл бұрын
I love your boat! Seriously considering one for myself
@corujariousa
@corujariousa 3 жыл бұрын
This couple certainly can afford all the modern features and seem to maintain well those in this beautiful Amel. Keeping up w/ maintenance of all those push-button gadgets takes a good amount of money. I love it! :-)
@liho26
@liho26 4 жыл бұрын
I like positive video. Thank you for good content!
@mz2288
@mz2288 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this vid. Excellent content and great insights. I can see the boat is in pristine condition and very well maintained. 55k however seems very high...I imagine the initial upgrades and fixes were all in here? My guess would be that as you sail the globe these costs will even out a little. Would be great to catch up in a year or so and see where you are on expenses. Wish you all fair winds and best of luck with this beautiful blue water cruiser! Thanks again for sharing...very helpful.
@d3w4yn3
@d3w4yn3 5 жыл бұрын
This series was INCREDIBLY valuable to me!!! Thanks so much for including a low-end budget, similar to my boat!!!
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! So glad it helped :)
@lisahanlin5317
@lisahanlin5317 5 жыл бұрын
well done...great videos
@davebrixey9060
@davebrixey9060 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you.
@2bitrasputin793
@2bitrasputin793 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty darn Awesome. Amel Ketch seems to be the best for a world cruise. Although a 7 ft draft is a little bit of a bummer for the shallows. Yes, I bet it's a full-time job to maintain a boat like that. Good work if you can get it. What a life!
@jamesmarva1268
@jamesmarva1268 2 жыл бұрын
I personally love the Amels, I have been researching yachts for months and the center cockpit and safety of the Amels is outstanding in my opinion, thank you all.
@jeffc6038
@jeffc6038 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy it thanks for sharing nice quality
@velocita8842
@velocita8842 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Sophie. I truly enjoyed this mini-series!
@ronmossman2016
@ronmossman2016 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the video. It does show very well the different costs of sailing offshore. Amel 54 The ultimate. We can't afford it at this point, but our Roberts centre cockpit 44 ketch will take us everywhere the Amel can go. Maintenance costs once it is done up should be $5,000 NZD per year for up to 10 years, (plus any nasty surprises) then she'll require more money again. So .... One can cruise on any budget. Some of the "fun" is casting off into the unknown not knowing how the entire venture will be funded. Opportunities to generate funds will come along ...
@YoguiNYC
@YoguiNYC 5 жыл бұрын
Really good video, thank you
@gregpowell1962
@gregpowell1962 5 жыл бұрын
OK thank you. Lowering my size expectations. Dramatically.
@radekdrayco
@radekdrayco 2 жыл бұрын
I Love the Amel's, fell in love with Delos's Amel and have been eyeing one for myself. This version, is really nice. Master suite is very nice. Forward cabin layout I like, maybe even better then Delos. I hope to own one, one day.
@compagotv
@compagotv 5 жыл бұрын
Great interview on one of top-5 blue water boats. Talk about loaded! Of interest and deserving of more mention is the two easy chairs in this salon, that would be an essential must-have for me during a long voyage. With arm-rests of course! That's one thing a lot of cruisers don't have. Hallberg-Rassey offers this option as well. *That helm to port is a pilot house design. Impressive stern powered entry gantry, wow. Walk the plank!
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Those armchairs were my favorite place to sit in this boat!!! I loved them... and yes, that passerelle is so cool! Such a great boat :) /Sophie
@compagotv
@compagotv 5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanSophieSailing Yes and thank you for the proper term - passerelle.
@AfricanFlightStar
@AfricanFlightStar 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you!
@tunamaniak
@tunamaniak 5 жыл бұрын
Sophie can you please find and interview a catamaran and trimaran couple, excellent work super informative and helpful. You ask better questions then the media these days. Also thanks to all the participants that made their time and vessel available
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a good suggestion! I’ll need to find some volunteers for that, but if I can, I’ll do it. /Sophie
@Firebrrat31
@Firebrrat31 5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanSophieSailing see if you can do Riley and Elayna from sailing la vagabonde they have been sailing for sometime and have a good idea about what things cost.
@rrudydedogg3779
@rrudydedogg3779 5 жыл бұрын
A clothes washer and dryer, a dish washer, induction heating plate and three AC units. All high current draw items supported by 1,000 watt solar panels feeding lithium batteries. AMAZING!! All the comforts of home......it sounds perfect.
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it perfect?! 😃 I love it! /Sophie
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that was the intent/hope. We didn't quite meet the goal of being "generator-free" but on anchorage, without running AC, we run the generator every 3-4 days for about 30-45 minutes. We could probably go longer without running the generator, but don't like to take the lithium batteries below 35%. If we need to make water, an hour of generator usage will provide enough power to fill up the 900 liter tank. Solar provides enough power for everything else.
@G11713
@G11713 5 жыл бұрын
The maintenance and repair cost sounds daunting. Wow.
@SailingAquarius
@SailingAquarius 5 жыл бұрын
@@SVTengah You guys have an awesome boat. We have friends on Ultimo, one of the last Amel 54's built. Ultimo and Aquarius are in New Zealand now. As I wrote above, I don't think your Maintenance bill will be as high moving forward. We are taking good care of Aquarius on about $1500 per month, and I believe Ultimo might be spending a little more, but not much. Ultimo is in PERFECT condition. Hope to see Tengah out here in the Pacific, or maybe the Indian Ocean! Fair Winds.
@teunisbaas8888
@teunisbaas8888 5 жыл бұрын
Sailing Aquarius Around The World I think Ken (AQUARIUS) is right. I also spent an exorbitant amount of money my first year of ownership of AMELIT (2009 A54). Had professionals do every major replacement (furlers, FURUNO, engine, tri-color etc.) while watching them & learning. From what I have learned from the budgets of other AMEL owners (like Judy & Bill ROUSE, Zivile & Ken etc.) it can be done much cheaper. 2019 will tell. Hope to see you in the South Pacific.
@laurentfroggy6631
@laurentfroggy6631 5 жыл бұрын
Très bonne série Sophie and what a great boat too. Not cheap to maintain though. Do they have their own channel? I saw a few GoPro around. Merci and best from HKG 🇭🇰
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, check our profile. We are trying to catch up on videos, but as Sophie said, we have been inundated with boat work. But it's slowing down, so expect more videos soon!
@lucderan
@lucderan 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, nice boat, nice couple. Amel is The boat if you want to (and can) Sail around the world. Fair wind!
@BreezyRider66
@BreezyRider66 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely lovely boat, it must be a wonderful experience to sail on her but is she not just too complex and time consuming to maintain yourselves?
@tjonessc
@tjonessc 5 жыл бұрын
$55k in maintenance a year is a deal breaker for most folks. Wow great vid. My dream boat would be a new Amel 50 but I think I would need to sell it in two years to avoid the upkeep expenses...
@namechamps
@namechamps 3 жыл бұрын
I am going to guess that $55K is because they are paying pros to do everything. Doing it yourself maintenance shouldn't be that much. SV Delos is on a Amel Super Maramu which is only slightly smaller and older and their estimate was $9,400 per year however they do essentially everything DIY other than stuff that can't be done like haulouts, sand blasting, crane rental, etc.
@leudast1215
@leudast1215 4 ай бұрын
Good man for appreciating that center cockpits are the only relatively safe cockpit available for these types of sailing vessels. However... doesn't mean much if your bolt on keel falls off or that alleged blue water rigging snaps.
@sm6wet
@sm6wet 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video and I really like this boat. Looking at a used 2006 Amel 54 now. Only thing I wish it was not that deep draft. That was a broad Danglish accent hahaha. I think what they are missing are a few backup systems like Wind Vane to take less stress on the Autopilot and ennergy consumption from the batteries. I would probably also install a amatuer radio / HF. I think the maintenence and service cost they are talking about is mostly having proffesionals doing it. If one is a handy DIY person that cost can come down significantly. Also Marina fees, well, they are in the Med. If they would have been in Scandinavia they could buy a annual spot for less than €1000 in Sweden. There are also Nature marinas which are completly free. WI is going to be cheaper then the Med apart from a few luxury places. Rest of Caribbean is fairly low cost like Cuba, Jamaica, Venezuela, Mexico, Colombia. Insurance, different countries have different prices. I dont know what country they are flagging but Sweden has some very good insurance prices even for go-anyware-insurance. Great video. Keep it up.
@sapoz
@sapoz 10 ай бұрын
Hey, I saw this ketch last week in Vanuatu!
@NZL50505
@NZL50505 4 жыл бұрын
Very good.
@MalloyUnfiltered
@MalloyUnfiltered 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@garymclaughlin4457
@garymclaughlin4457 8 ай бұрын
fabulous
@Gs-rg2vo
@Gs-rg2vo Жыл бұрын
Love the mini series I wonder what’sthe cost of a 64 ketch amel just love that boat but impossible to find something like this !
@HopeOfJoe
@HopeOfJoe 5 жыл бұрын
Totally enjoyed the videos. And, miss Sophie, You asked all the important questions....of, course. :-) . I would also like to know if any of the interviewees also hold down jobs or have an online business to support the lifestyle? Thank you.
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a mix! Scott and Mie saved, Ryan and I work remotely, and Marky does some photography work combined with physical work for other boats :)
@kaskl5403
@kaskl5403 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the cost comparison of the different sizes boats. Are you holding the newest crew member?
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 5 жыл бұрын
I wish 😭
@attorneyeranbenezra-immigr3829
@attorneyeranbenezra-immigr3829 Жыл бұрын
Sophie hi. Out of the bavaria 57 2018 you reviewed and this amel 54. If money wasn't a problem. Which boat you would buy to do what you do guys? I am in negotiations to buy a sailboat. Loved the amel 54. It feel safer and a tank. The Bavaria 57 feel like ikea furniture and less massive. Am I right?
@SA-zv4wr
@SA-zv4wr 3 жыл бұрын
Great boat. Only to hear that everything breaks down so often with Amel... I thought they were well built boats... One thing for sure, these folks have a feeling for good quality and high price/performance. Good choice for the washing machine brand. I have a Beko running flawless for the last 15 years. But how did they manage to get it in the boat? The entrance is not that wide?
@xSPECTAR888
@xSPECTAR888 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Sopihe are you from Denmark?
@RyanSophieSailing
@RyanSophieSailing 3 жыл бұрын
Mie in the video is from Denmark, I am from france! :)
@steenkigerrider5340
@steenkigerrider5340 5 жыл бұрын
Expenses: Maintenance on a boat isn't cheap, I'll grant you that. But on the other hand you don't have to pay crippling (Swedish) income taxes, VAT on god knows what, levies, etc.
@jonnymiller1035
@jonnymiller1035 3 жыл бұрын
i own a 2006 amel 54 for 14 years now and dont belive ever spent mor tha 35000 a year on maintenance . average 6 months of sailing per year and probably average of 20000 euro per year.
@gazdagodjotthonrol
@gazdagodjotthonrol 5 жыл бұрын
my dream boat Amel 54 good choice
@joanned8172
@joanned8172 5 жыл бұрын
I got my eye on the Amel 64 would love the dinghy hanger:).
@gazdagodjotthonrol
@gazdagodjotthonrol 5 жыл бұрын
@@joanned8172 sure but 64 is too luxury for me ....plus 3 million 😂😂😂
@dd19091967
@dd19091967 3 жыл бұрын
Dream boat 😋
@sillyoldbastard3280
@sillyoldbastard3280 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Surprised at expenses that is getting close to 100K euros per annum
@andredupont4997
@andredupont4997 4 жыл бұрын
Beau bateau de grande renommée - mais ... Madame voudrait changer les rideaux et les coussins. Ce que femme veut ... 😍. A chacun son budget, l'essentiel étant d'être heureux sur son bateau quelque soit sa taille. ⛱ Merci Sophie&Ryan pour cette initiative inattendue. Les propriétaires ont accepté le jeu des post-it . Bravo.
@liznelson2930
@liznelson2930 3 жыл бұрын
What size inverter did you put in ?
@CaptPauly
@CaptPauly 2 жыл бұрын
$55,000+? on what? great video 😊 love to know the details.
@SerbanOprescu
@SerbanOprescu 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. And a really, really nice boat. I strongly suspect that your little helper had something to do with the quality of this video! Maybe he was whispering in your ear? :)
@TheDavenator7
@TheDavenator7 4 жыл бұрын
Ever thought about adopting a 50 year old man? I'm potty trained.
@larryboles629
@larryboles629 4 жыл бұрын
No hes not. He will require lots of quite time on the stern with a fishing rod.
@ross82
@ross82 10 ай бұрын
55k maintenance? Is he maintaining or replacing?
@glennvoyer4624
@glennvoyer4624 4 жыл бұрын
your dog is beautiful
@peter9180
@peter9180 5 жыл бұрын
Good informative vid, I was surprised with the high running costs, especially the cost of maintenance, why do you need a crew, many people sail single handed.
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 5 жыл бұрын
We don't necessarily need crew. The boat can be sailed by two or even one, no problem. But crew, generally friends or family, do add positively to our experience. :)
@flyerjack1548
@flyerjack1548 Жыл бұрын
Taking Friends and new friends with you when you sail is what makes all that upkeep and maintenance expense worth it. Sometimes you will sail alone together, but sailing is a great social experience … so don’t miss that part of it either ⛵️
@anothercar
@anothercar 4 жыл бұрын
I love the amels, but was disappointed by the new Amel 50 having recently delivered one. The tinted windscreen is impossible to see through at night and the rig felt unbalanced. Needs a mizzen mast. The magic school bus didnt point well at all. Overall beautiful construction and craftsmanship but lackluster sailing performance.
@starlight7830
@starlight7830 5 жыл бұрын
Please show how you set up your lee cloths in the aft cabin !
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 5 жыл бұрын
Very observant! We can setup lee cloths on both sides of the island berth but the aft cabin is effectively useless while underway. (1) The primary autopilot is below the berth so it's noisy (2) The bed, at 1.6m wide, while great at anchor, means you often roll twice before hitting the other lee cloth. We generally sleep in the passage berth or the most comfortable position on the boat - the saloon floor!
@svgarulfo
@svgarulfo 5 жыл бұрын
SV Tengah Scott, my friend, sleep sideways while underway and you’ll get the beauty of that berth. For the autopilot, trim your boat properly and it’ll work less, survive longer and let you sleep. :-)
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 5 жыл бұрын
@@svgarulfo Crossing the Atlantic with swell on the beam or confused swell for a decent part of it, no amount of trimming could get rid of the intermittent waves swinging the stern around and the autopilot working hard to straighten things up. Perhaps we just need to have you aboard to teach us how to solve that! :)
@svgarulfo
@svgarulfo 5 жыл бұрын
SV Tengah ok fair enough:-) Do you have a secondary autopilot drive rotary, on the helm shaft directly? Amel did that as an option on some SM. it was a clever way to solve the noisy night problem (and also give the equipment a rest).
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 5 жыл бұрын
@@svgarulfo Yes, we do have that backup rotary autopilot. Oddly, the computer for the backup AP doesn't have gyroscopic compensation nor windvane mode! We generally run it while on motor precisely to give the primary AP a rest. I guess I could find the NMEA wind output and wire it up to make windvane mode work on the backup computer or I could just swap the "output" to the drive units so the rotary unit runs off commands from the "main" computer. It's on my list - item 634 to deal with, haha. Hearing your problems with your Volvo D3-110 engine and others replacing it multiple times (or even preemptively!) is making me stuff away some money in case my Volvo decides to act up. I hope I'm one of the lucky ones and worrying about nothing.
@ronanguegan1774
@ronanguegan1774 4 ай бұрын
Très beau voilier l amel 54
@sailingsvsolafide7241
@sailingsvsolafide7241 5 жыл бұрын
How did they come to name the boat 'Tengah'? Money in Kazakhstan is called 'Tenga'. After seeing their expenses, I can see a possible connection! 😉 I have to admit, I was getting serious envy through the first half of this episode. Seeing the costs took care of that! But that was the point of the series! Different boats have different costs. The only bad boat is one that you can't afford to maintain. And Tengah is a STUNNING boat!! 🧡😎👍😍
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 5 жыл бұрын
David W haha, that’s a fun fact 😀 Tengah is named after an island on the Malaysian East Coast where Scott and his family arrived on as refugees after escaping post-war Vietnam more than 3 decades ago. The name therefore represents a significant milestone in Scott’s family’s journy to a better life.
@24hourtravellers
@24hourtravellers 3 жыл бұрын
Tengah means centre in Bahasa Malaysia. Is the owner from Malaysia or Indonesia?
@SVTengah
@SVTengah 3 жыл бұрын
Scott here....Good catch, actually my family escaped from Vietnam as refugees after the war and spent 16 months as refugees on a little island called Pulau Babi Tengah in Malaysia. I've already scoped out where we're going to anchor when we go there. Ironically they escaped by boat to get to the States, we worked our butts off and now I'm back on a boat. ;)
@MarcelaR-dh1ok
@MarcelaR-dh1ok Жыл бұрын
Beautiful yacht....one piece of advise ...when sitting at the table...let her slide over to next to you
@seb81123
@seb81123 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Sophie, Ryan & friends :) These mini serie was really fruitful and very insightful. I am binge Watching your adventures and this is really inspiring :) Hope I can free up from the rat race - tinder a partner (bars also work) and go discover the world. Still work to do and we’ll meet in few years drinking margaritas ;)
@kevinsmith2349
@kevinsmith2349 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't mention if the 50K annual cost on maintenance includes the cost of their own 30-40 hour week labor (which they mentioned how much of their own time they spend)..If it doesn't then that's a lot of cash to spend while also working full time on the boat.
@deaftone311
@deaftone311 5 жыл бұрын
my one legged buddy has been sailing a '45 ketch (pearson?) around the world since 2007 on about $20k a year he gets from the army, and I know for a fact he spends half that on alcohol.
@WeisCarl2000
@WeisCarl2000 4 жыл бұрын
so is that 55k a year having someone else work on your boat doing all the repairs?
@sprezzatura8755
@sprezzatura8755 3 жыл бұрын
55k is to pay professionals to do most of the work. If you are capable and willing to do a lot of work you can easily cut that number in half, or less.
@tammy6992
@tammy6992 3 жыл бұрын
Oh who’s the cutest little dog is that and does the couple with the amel Have a channel
@francisverhelst9375
@francisverhelst9375 2 жыл бұрын
A bit strange: as the owners say the boat is built as a tank, but everything seems to break down… we did a one year sailing trip with our beneteau oceanis and spent about 2000€ on maintenance in the whole year… and no, when we returned from the trip we did not need to invest tons of money in past due maintenance. For me this seems like a big no on Amel yachts ? Maybe too complex systems ??
@kevin3434343434
@kevin3434343434 5 жыл бұрын
That's not Karen and Brian, I'm confused..
@sisterbrothers1677
@sisterbrothers1677 5 жыл бұрын
You mean Kazza and Breeyawn. Phhh, amateur.
@al4385
@al4385 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the same boat. Delos is a 53 and the interior is different.
@ryanshepeard3206
@ryanshepeard3206 4 жыл бұрын
The tribe is always watching lol
@alcibiadesmarcialneto922
@alcibiadesmarcialneto922 4 жыл бұрын
If their spending are so high, without food, healt plan, etc., this is totally discouraging!😞😞😞😞😞
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