2008 Escalade (GM 6.2L) stalling at Idle Fix

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Steve’s DIYs

Steve’s DIYs

4 жыл бұрын

How to help diagnose a stalling issue with the GM 6.2L engine for the Cadillac Escalade and others

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@razor141
@razor141 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Steve. Love the approach to diag-ing this problem. Wish I had thought of it.
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 4 жыл бұрын
razor 1 , thanks man 👍
@lesmyers5642
@lesmyers5642 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!! Truck stalling was driving me crazy!
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs Жыл бұрын
Thanks man and glad the video helped some with figuring out the issue 👍. I’m actually on my 3rd purge valve now on this vehicle…seems that the aftermarket replacements just don’t last very long. Now that I know the symptoms, I just replace it out when it starts acting up. Just a note, (you might have already known this…but just in case), if the purge valve ever gets stuck after driving and when you try to start it again it just cranks (basically it has gotten flooded from the extra fuel fumes with the valve stuck open), you can press the gas pedal all the way to the floor while cranking the motor and it disables the injectors so it will un-flood it’s self. Shakes a bit as it’s cleaning the fuel out and trying to fire, but mine has always come back to life so I can get back home. That’s a nice little feature GM has kept around since the first fuel injection systems were made…my ‘85 Pontiac Fiero even has it (and I have to do it all the time as the old injectors leak like sieves on it , lol ! ). Thanks again and all the best ! Steve
@drbrookes
@drbrookes 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation. Thanks for the help.
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! Glad the video was helpful 👍. I actually just changed the same little valve again a couple of months ago for the very same reason. Apparently these valves are not made very well and only last a few years. All the best ! Steve
@sasch990
@sasch990 Жыл бұрын
Always good 👍🏻I follow you from Germany helps to work on the Escalade
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍. It’s great to know the videos are helpful to folks all around the world for these Escalades 😃. All the best ! Steve
@anthonyzarudski5101
@anthonyzarudski5101 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much this was driving my crazy big time thank you 👍🍺
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man ! Glad it helped 👍. All the best, Steve
@s2knott
@s2knott 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I had a similar concern but it would stall after driving rather hard. WOT pull in 2nd gear coast after down to a stop sign and it stalls but won’t restart until the engine cools like 30-45 min later. Had a po455 that was on for a year maybe and intermittent filling up issues with the pump clicking off. Replaced purge valve and have no cel or stalling then crank no start issues since I replaced it, seems to do the trick. 07 Escalade L92 - 2WD 165k miles
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 ай бұрын
Thanks and glad the video helped some 👍. Yep, seems that when this poorly designed purge valve starts sticking open, it just floods the motor with fuel fumes from the tank. I’m probably on my 4th or 5th replacement as the aftermarket ones are even worst than the OE one. Good thing I got it from the local auto parts store as I just take it back and they give me another one since the brand I got has a lifetime warranty lol ! Thanks again and all the best ! Steve
@curbsidecustom6148
@curbsidecustom6148 3 ай бұрын
Finally a straight forward video explaining the problem. Want to thank you as I’m trying to figure what has gone wrong with my uncles Escalade. The injector tool can you tell me what’s the actual name or the item number for it. Again thank you for the details on that crank but stalling issues he’s having.
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 ай бұрын
Thanks and glad the video helps to explain a bit 👍. For the blinking led block I used to see if the injector was firing, it’s actually just the cheapest (like $3 lol) 12 volt battery tender that I got from Harbor Freight that I cut the wall plug off of totally, and then just use the two wires that normally go to the battery to probe the injector wires. The led lights up when voltage is present and reacts really fast since the electronics in it are super simple so it easily catches the voltage pulses to the injectors and blinks the led. If you cannot find it on the HF website (probably still looks just like the one in the video) just let me know and I’ll look to see. Thanks again and all the best ! Steve.
@ranarajput2618
@ranarajput2618 3 жыл бұрын
You donig very good job Very good Teaching Nice video
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
rana rajput , thanks man ! Glad the video helped some 👍. All the best to you, Steve
@Mr.Vazquez
@Mr.Vazquez Жыл бұрын
Pointing at the fuel gauge with the cigarette in hand 😎
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs Жыл бұрын
Lol ! I didn’t even notice that until you pointed it out 🤣. It was annoying me with this stalling issue until I figured it out when I made the video so maybe I was subconsciously thinking about burning it to the ground 😂.
@roderickhemphill1459
@roderickhemphill1459 Жыл бұрын
great video
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs Жыл бұрын
Thanks man 👍. All the best ! Steve
@Soldier4Christ96
@Soldier4Christ96 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! All the best ! Steve
@treytrey3361
@treytrey3361 2 ай бұрын
Great video steve im having a similar problem. Can the purge valve cause a random misfire code? And could it cause engine to run a little rough on start up?
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 ай бұрын
Hey, yep, if the valve is sticking open, it acts like it’s flooding the motor and will make it misfire. I’ve had it also cause the check engine light to come on after fill ups on other makes as well due to a bad valve.
@razor141
@razor141 4 жыл бұрын
Update on my 2007 Escalade 6.2L: This vehicle would idle all day without issue at all. But if I let it reach normal operating temperature and then drive it through the gears, when I would come to a red light so that the engine came toward idle it would stumble and die almost every-time. It was very hard to start again unless it cooled all the way. I hooked up my scan tool and watched and it would show a P0016 correlation issue.(Already replaced the crank and cam sensors and the oil control valve and adjuster magnet for VVT.) So what fixed it? Long story short I changed the oil and filter, replacing the local quick change oil changing place products(900 miles old) with Valvoline synthetic 5W30 and K&N oil filter. It runs perfect and never has an issue now. Crazy !
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 4 жыл бұрын
razor 1 , man that’s crazy that it was the fix...doesn’t even seem related does it, but hey if it worked that’s all that matters 👍.
@stellyst8294
@stellyst8294 4 жыл бұрын
I’m having the exact same problem with a 2007 GMC Yukon Denali. I guess I’m going to give it a shoot see what happens
@bigmeat559able
@bigmeat559able Жыл бұрын
Having the exact same issue with my 2007 escalade replaced the cam and crank sensors and vvt magnet and sesnor and same issue. Im going to change out the oil and see if that does it
@menimurati2984
@menimurati2984 Жыл бұрын
so I also have a problem like yours, just like you tried the first piston in my Cadillac, I don't have a strong rim in the cylinder and in the engine when I give the engine a rim from the battery, it's fine otherwise the first piston doesn't work, I tell you
@mujjuman
@mujjuman 3 жыл бұрын
Most mechanics don’t do diagnostics like this anymore. Not even at the dealer!
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍. Yep, most just start replacing components (cam position, crank position, throttle body, purge valve, etc...) since they don’t want to take the time to diagnose anything anymore if the ECU doesn’t throw a code to tell them what’s wrong it seems. It was definitely the problem on mine...since I fixed the purge valve (when I made this video over a year ago), it has never stalled again. All the best ! Steve
@ernesto.1327
@ernesto.1327 4 жыл бұрын
Did it work? Mine is doing it and replaced fuel pumps crank sensor and cleaned the throttle body and did it again when it came off the highway.
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 4 жыл бұрын
Ernesto Pa , yep...it fixed the stalling issue on mine. Hasn’t done it again since replacing the purge valve after several hundred startups and trips now. It was the only thing I replaced so it must have been the issue on mine 👍
@ernesto.1327
@ernesto.1327 4 жыл бұрын
Steve’s DIYs. I will definitely give it a shout and I will post the results either way. It seems like a lot of people have this issue. Thanks again
@davep6989
@davep6989 4 жыл бұрын
@@ernesto.1327 - Did you figure out what was causing your stalling issue? Sounds like you eliminated fuel pump, crank sensor, throttle body. What was it?
@ernesto.1327
@ernesto.1327 4 жыл бұрын
Dave P, i had to replace the cam phaser the cam sensor and the conector for the sensor. That solved my problem. Also while i was at it i did the water pump and changed the oil
@samsen3965
@samsen3965 3 жыл бұрын
What OBD code you had at the initial phase of the problem?
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man ! Actually that was the hardest thing about diagnosing this issue...it was not giving any error codes since the computer thought it was opening and closing the valve, but since it would stick open, it would let all of the built up gas fume in the tank come into the intake suddenly and basically flood the motor.
@byronevans7423
@byronevans7423 5 ай бұрын
I'm having the exact same issue. I'ma try this when I get home
@genaromendoza6811
@genaromendoza6811 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning Steve , need your help, my 2008 ext dies on me when driving it for more less 2 hours, I replaced the crankshaft position sensor and still dies , I already took it to several shops and dealerships and they can’t find the issue, I don’t have the check engine light on, after a while goes by it turns on like nothing, I greatly appreciate your help thanks.
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 4 жыл бұрын
genaro mendoza , hey man...these intermittent issues are aggravating for sure. If it was me, I’d gather up the fuel pressure gage kit and something like the cheap battery charger with the LED (both can be had at the local cheap tools store) as well as the inline spark checker like I did in the video so the next time it does it, I could hook those up and see if I’m loosing spark on the plugs, loosing fuel pressure, or loosing the signal to the injectors. This would help narrow down which system is cutting out (if you have all three then the only things left are how much air and how much fuel since that’s all the cylinder needs to fire). It’s hard to tell as, in general if you do find you are loosing spark or injection signal, several electrical issues can cause that. On my Dodge Ram I had, it would also shut off just going down the road...let it sit a while and it would fire back up with no issue and then go again (no codes as well). Turned out one time the issue was a loose coil ground wire (it was a single coil system), then a year or so later it started doing it again and that turned out to be the fuel pump relay going bad and getting hot and opening the circuit. Then one more time is was the Anti-dieseling relay that went bad. Since these have individual coils per cylinder I wouldn’t think it would be the coils shutting off on the Escalade, but it might be one of the relays going bad and when they get hot from holding the contacts closed eventually they start to fail. Other than that, I have heard that are issues with the throttle body and it sticking sometimes if I remember right. Hope this helps, Steve
@fabinho909090
@fabinho909090 4 жыл бұрын
Hi,did you find the problem?
@genaromendoza6811
@genaromendoza6811 3 жыл бұрын
@@StevesDIYs goodmorning steve, i finally got it fixed, it was the timing actuator, when stalled out timing stayed stuck at 25 degrees advanced timing and would not restart until it cool down and the timing spring tension would bring it back to zero.
@genaromendoza6811
@genaromendoza6811 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabinho909090 i finally did, it was the timing actuator, when stalled out timing stayed stuck at 25 degrees advanced timing and wouldn’t start up until it would cool down and timing spring tension would bring it back to zero.
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
@@genaromendoza6811 , 👍. Wow, that was a totally different issue. Glad you got it fixed...thanks for commenting back what the issue was as it’s always good to know what the problem turned out to be. If you don’t mind me asking, how were you able to find that it was the issue? Did you use an OBDii scanner? This could be helpful for others that have run into this problem as well. Thanks, Steve
@treytrey3361
@treytrey3361 2 ай бұрын
Do you have a way I could contact you other than KZfaq maybe Facebook? Since I can’t only check comments on here would really like to ask you a few questions about my 08 Escalade plz.
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 ай бұрын
Hey, yep my Facebook is on several of the videos right at the beginning of them 👍
@davntelisha19
@davntelisha19 2 жыл бұрын
Mines it don't stall but shakes here and there motor I just did spark plugs and wires and coil packs feels a little better but still feel shake from time to time
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, mine will every once in a while shake when I first start it up within a few minutes of shutting it off (like running in the corner market real quick). For mine I think that’s caused by a leaking injector or glitch in the ECU as I can immediately shut it off, then start it back and it’s instantly fine. Only seems to do it if shut off and then restarted within like a minute it two and has only done it like four times in 5 or so years.
@thefr8train
@thefr8train 3 жыл бұрын
So this was officially the culprit? Fighting with wife's denali right now it had a cam position sensor code so replaced vvt solenoid and cps still same problem. Has fuel and spark
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, yes for mine (actually it’s my wife’s as well, lol) this was the problem and hasn’t happened again since changing out the cheap little purge valve. It only stalled like that after sitting which wasn’t making much sense until I realized the valve was bad and it was just basically flooding the motor with all of the pressurized gas fume from the tank where it built up from sitting. No codes or anything from mine...just would sputter and die as soon as the valve was told to start cycling to purge the tank pressure, then finally restart after quite a bit of cranking and be fine till the next restart.
@hoobsgarage
@hoobsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Mine did this exact thing this morning. I see this video is a couple years old is it still working good for ya?
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man ! Yep, it’s been a couple of years now, but it’s still doing fine and replacing it solved the problem completely 👍. I guess if they get stuck open it just sucks all of the fumes from the tank and floods it. My sons Ford Edge did the very same thing, but only after filling the tank, and it too was the Ford’s version of the purge valve.
@hoobsgarage
@hoobsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@StevesDIYs thank you sir. Your video is amazing the internet is full of Cadillac forums and everyone has tried fuel pumps and throttle bottles and many other things and thousands and thousands of dollars and some have even traded in their Escalades for other cars and not one forum mentions this fix lol. I'll definitely be trying it on mine when I get a chance. Mine did exactly what you described today. Went from a cold start and made it until the first time I had to stop and died right there where I stopped. Tried to crank it a couple times and it wouldnt fire up then let it sit a minute then it cranked over a bunch of times but it started that time. Almost acted flooded the way it cranked but it was fine after that happened
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 жыл бұрын
@@hoobsgarage thanks man...good to know the video helped some 👍. Yep, seems like folks looked at a lot of other things, but never thought this might be the issue. I’ll have to admit that a little past history with GMs helps quite a bit sometimes...I actually have an ‘85 Pontiac Fiero and most every GM has a neat little feature that if you press the gas pedal all the way to the floor and then crank the motor, it shuts down the injectors to clear a flooded condition. Not really necessary now a days, but back in the ‘80’s with leaky injectors that injected into the intake manifold, it was really handy, lol. Once I figured out it was flooding (like you mentioned), it confirmed something was up with getting extra fuel. If you wanted to test it out before changing it...the next time it does it, turn off the ignition then press the gas pedal all the way to the floor and crank it. If it fires back up, let off the gas pedal real quick and let it go to idle...that will pretty much confirm it was either the purge valve or possibly a stuck or leaky injector like the old Fieros used to have issues with. Thanks again and all the best ! Steve
@impalachris7261
@impalachris7261 Жыл бұрын
@@hoobsgarage did you figure out what's going on with yours? I tried this and still doing same thing.
@hoobsgarage
@hoobsgarage Жыл бұрын
@@impalachris7261 it's never did it again
@alvarosilva957
@alvarosilva957 7 ай бұрын
Will this give a p0641 code
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 7 ай бұрын
Hello, I believe that code relates to the 5 volt supply that runs several of the motor sensors so it could be this one or any of the other ones ( fuel sensor, throttle position sensor, etc). The only way I know to narrow down which sensor (or wire leading to it) would be to unplug each sensor and reset the code to see if it clears.
@mercedesbenzs600bash
@mercedesbenzs600bash 3 жыл бұрын
Is the purge valve and timing actuator the same thing????
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, no...the purge valve opens and closes to allow built up fuel from the tank or charcoal canister to be metered back into the engine so it doesn’t escape to the atmosphere (pollution control deal). The timing actuator typically controls the variable valve timing of the engine to advance (or retard) the intake/exhaust valves to improve cylinder combustion at different rpms. Hope this helps 👍, Steve
@mercedesbenzs600bash
@mercedesbenzs600bash 3 жыл бұрын
@@StevesDIYs Oh ok so the purge valve was replaced and that solved your problem????
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
@@mercedesbenzs600bash , yes, for mine, the stalling issue was caused by the purge valve getting stuck open when it is supposed to pulse off and on to allow small amounts of fuel to enter back to the motor. By getting stuck open, it basically allowed a large quantity of fuel vapor from the tank to enter the intake at one time so it flooded the motor with fuel vapor and would stall the motor.
@mercedesbenzs600bash
@mercedesbenzs600bash 3 жыл бұрын
@@StevesDIYs Steve thanks a lot my man much appreciated 🙏🏿
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
@@mercedesbenzs600bash , 👍. All the best ! Steve
@elmaknon83
@elmaknon83 3 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds like Forest Gum!!
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 3 жыл бұрын
That’s one comparison I haven’t heard before, lol. Most people say I sound like Boomhauer from King ofthe Hill 🤣🤣🤣. All the best !
@moeali3243
@moeali3243 2 жыл бұрын
Those Escalade are the biggest junk ever made! I would never buy one again
@StevesDIYs
@StevesDIYs 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, there seems to be quite a few things that go wrong with them once they hit about the 120k mile mark for sure. For mine, it has been mostly gaskets, seals, and the air suspension, but if I had to take it somewhere to be fixed vs. fixing it myself I would have gotten rid of it several years ago since a few repairs would have been high labor cost ones.
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