2010 BMW X3 (N52) - No Start - Diagnosis

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Canadian Wrench

Canadian Wrench

2 жыл бұрын

Diagnosis of BMW X3 no start.
Ground cable - replacement.

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@joesmith9216
@joesmith9216 10 ай бұрын
thanks for this! my one mechanic I use said these go bad, yet he checked it last year and said it was fine....sure, bet he did not want to replace as he can't get suvs on his lift!
@SamuelWattOnline
@SamuelWattOnline 2 ай бұрын
Great sense of humour and helpful watch!
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench 2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@mayrimbalan
@mayrimbalan Жыл бұрын
OMG THANK YOU! I WISH I CAN SHOW YOU THE STATE OF MY CABLE.... HORRIBLE, AFTER ONE YEAR I FINALLY FOUND THIS VIDEO, I WILL GET BACK HERE AGAIN WHEN I FIX THIS. IF IT IS NOT THE CABLE, IS THE SHIFT STICK....
@juicedawg99
@juicedawg99 3 күн бұрын
Is it fixed?
@ericm7593
@ericm7593 Жыл бұрын
very detailed video! I have the same car and I struggle for the past 2 months with it! now I am down to the clicking sound with no start so I am changing the starter but for safety replacing the ground! great job!!
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Mosaic._
@Mosaic._ Жыл бұрын
Was it the starter or did you have ground strap issues?
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench 9 ай бұрын
Ground strap was issue.
@jaydee177
@jaydee177 6 ай бұрын
I have the same issue. With one difference: the starter does start the engine with no stuttering or lag. Then when I drive it and make 10 stops where I turn the engine off and on each time, it decides not to crank crank at all. All lights in the dash light up properly but no crank. I have to let the car sit for a few hours and then the it starts. And the cycle repeats. I will definitely replace the ground wire as indicated in this video. But why would my engine restart if the ground wire was faulty? Any help would be appreciated!
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench 6 ай бұрын
So it sounds like heat is changing resistance in a component. Likely the starter but I would definitely do that cable first.
@wormtownhero
@wormtownhero Жыл бұрын
Same issue 2008 X3. Did the jumper cable to ground trick and that confirmed it. I was able to pull the ground wire apart by hand it had deteriorated so badly. Presumed original (160k miles)
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how bad those grounds get. Glad to help.
@Mosaic._
@Mosaic._ Жыл бұрын
I was able to diagnose my x3 bad ground but now I get parasitic draw. My battery keeps draining below 12V when parked an I don’t know what’s causing it. I thought it was my aftermarket radio but i unplugged it an it still happens
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
@@Mosaic._ - make sure Battery is good. Chasing a battery draw cm be tricky. Especially when options are on timers. The best way to do test is disconnect ground and put a multimeter connected to battery negative and the other to cable. Don’t open doors etc because you will be turning on lights. Now isolate each circuit by removing the fuse. When your meter drops to 0 - it’s that circuit. There should be a good video on KZfaq for that
@jacksunengler451
@jacksunengler451 4 ай бұрын
Wait so i’m confused if the jumper cable trick doesn’t work does that mean it’s a bad starter?
@wormtownhero
@wormtownhero 4 ай бұрын
@@jacksunengler451 perhaps or you don’t have a good connection with the jumper cable. I had to try a couple different locations before it worked.
@elmamuel03
@elmamuel03 Ай бұрын
Nice picture
@zerarimohamed6390
@zerarimohamed6390 Жыл бұрын
Like i always say in those cases; Beautiful! hahahahaha! Good job.
@Rajafayness
@Rajafayness Жыл бұрын
Check ground cable engine to chassis. Under passenger side front also 1 in back
@danbrennan6948
@danbrennan6948 4 ай бұрын
Just a word of advice you can make your own much better longer lasting ground cable using 4 gauge battery cable with two crimp clamps
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes - I have made many over the years.
@madformodz7252
@madformodz7252 Жыл бұрын
Great video I have this problem now I tryed to ground from negative but I went to frame not engine would that still ground the car or does it need to be to the engine thanks
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
You need to run a cable from body / frame to the engine. Your battery is grounded to the body - so body is a good ground.
@canadahappydogs
@canadahappydogs 10 ай бұрын
great video, thanks very much! same year x3, just parked on my driveway, and can not start again, no crank, new battery, and follow your way to test, it looks like not ground cable issue, no idea still.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench 10 ай бұрын
Follow diagnostics in video - maybe starter?, aftermarket alarm system?
@Antonio-gq6fx
@Antonio-gq6fx 11 ай бұрын
Can't help thinking the genuine part is crap
@ludwig5103
@ludwig5103 Жыл бұрын
I had exactly same issue on my 2009 e88. Flickering Lights, especially on the uneven roads, music stops when the brake hit. And car starts really weak. And every electronic parts breaking because of this electric problem. Just 3 Euro cable but cost me 2 bmw radio professional, 2 xenon bulb and 1 h8 bulb and one relay. Just change and check it. Otherwise it damages everything.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Amazing the problems created by a bad ground!
@martinfilardi2614
@martinfilardi2614 Жыл бұрын
I sprayed my relatively new cable with WD40, what do you readers think? Made it look new again. May need a spray once and a while.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
I did the same.
@mikesabin8568
@mikesabin8568 Жыл бұрын
Should have hooked ground cable to battery negative. Cant trust the post unless you checked the post.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Well …I would have run a cable to the battery but it would require 20 feet of booster cable. I chose the negative terminal designed by BMW for boosting your car. I did test that ground terminal to confirm it was good. Thanks for input.
@alexandresongbe8204
@alexandresongbe8204 Жыл бұрын
i just changed the ground strap and still nothing and i have 07 bmw 328i and my stop the same way yours did when i was getting gas
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Go through it again and double check your results. Make sure you have good connections at your battery.
@SamuelWattOnline
@SamuelWattOnline 2 ай бұрын
I’m having a really hard time finding the ground strap on my 2011 model. Is there any chance it’s taped to a positive cable? Have you had a look at this for any of the newer x3s by any chance?
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench 2 ай бұрын
It’s sometimes on mount bolt to the starter. It’s got to be there, somewhere. Usually the positive and negative aren’t taped together but maybe a previous repair. You could just add one where my ground was. It won’t hurt anything.
@SamuelWattOnline
@SamuelWattOnline 2 ай бұрын
@@canadianwrench I’m taking another look tomorrow. Thanks for the extra tips.
@raymondrodriguez5068
@raymondrodriguez5068 Жыл бұрын
Can you put a protective tubing or heat shrink on that ground to keep moisture and dirt away?
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
It may help - although I wouldn’t want to trap moisture or salt. I think it was more an age thing in my case. If first one lasted 11 years - I should be good for a decade.
@MrDweb
@MrDweb Жыл бұрын
I just bought 1 from the dealer and it's got flexible insulation on it.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Maybe an updated part. Interesting.
@Rob-gj4hz
@Rob-gj4hz 7 ай бұрын
I'm doing this project now and I plan on doing this. Anti corrosion battery paste slathered on it, then put heat shrink over it. It cannot make it any worse.
@raymondrodriguez5068
@raymondrodriguez5068 7 ай бұрын
@@Rob-gj4hz good going!
@elieafram5303
@elieafram5303 4 ай бұрын
Can the part be called alternator ground cable? It looks the exact same. Please let me know.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench 4 ай бұрын
It could be the same part used in several places. When I called dealer - I described it as the lower ground body to engine. You could even make one!
@elieafram5303
@elieafram5303 4 ай бұрын
@@canadianwrench Oh ok ok sweet. Thank you so much!
@madformodz7252
@madformodz7252 Жыл бұрын
Mt battery good the clicking I's tger wen crank but no crank its been struggling around a week and now no crank what dmyou think hmmm I'm thinking ground like yours
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Quite possible. Try the booster cable test. Good luck!
@slickboy19
@slickboy19 Жыл бұрын
@@canadianwrenchwhats the booster cable test?
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Booster cable test - I used 1 cable of booster cable to connect the engine to the body. It’s in the video - 3:00min in.
@MB-rr1fb
@MB-rr1fb 7 ай бұрын
4:30 The ground strap should be replaced every 7 years as preventive maint................if not you WILL get stranded someday
@fedorov5549
@fedorov5549 Жыл бұрын
Old cable copper, new cable stainless steel?
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Good question - I think the old one was copper - because it turned green. The new one - I’m unsure but for the price I would hope it’s part Gold!! If you find an honest answer - let me know.
@colebyrnes7889
@colebyrnes7889 Жыл бұрын
I believe the new is tin coated copper.
@jayhernandez8160
@jayhernandez8160 4 ай бұрын
What’s the part number
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t catch the number. I just ordered mine at dealer with my VIN as a reference.
@charlesflewissr4428
@charlesflewissr4428 Жыл бұрын
I've got a 2007 328i Power to everything, but won't start?
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Power to everything - Hmmmm. So power to big cable on starter? Power to small wire - trigger wire on starter - power when cranking / key turned? Good engine ground as in video? If yes to all above - Starter - or seized engine.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
If engine seized you will still hear a click or clunk from starter. Double check your tests
@charlesflewissr4428
@charlesflewissr4428 Жыл бұрын
Starter ok, I'm checking fuses. Which is where I should've started in the first place
@colebyrnes7889
@colebyrnes7889 Жыл бұрын
​​@@charlesflewissr4428 Was it a relay fuse in your case? Older x3s don't have a starter relay fuse, so he wouldn't be able to cover that in this video
@charlesflewissr4428
@charlesflewissr4428 Жыл бұрын
It was the starter, and ground cable. If you have any BMW that's an older vehicle I recommend that you check the under carriage covering an replace if needed. Once water gets in all of the older ground wires corroded! I basically took off all of the ones I could find and cleaned them then used regular old school Vaseline...didn't have to replace the starter...only the Aluminum bolts and rubber gaskets on manifold, which cleared up the singing/wheezing sound when on gas!!! Thank's Fellas
@bendw
@bendw 2 жыл бұрын
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@ethanthomas1868
@ethanthomas1868 Жыл бұрын
So if no power at the white wire in the fuse box then what? My ground cables don't look great but using the jumper cable trick didn't do anything.... Car has power, keys were working, no obvious ews codes showing in INPA
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
If you have no power at the small white wire - which is trigger wire for starter- then your issue is before that wire. It could be ignition switch, A fuse, possibly an alarm or immobilizer. I’d start with fuses - then check to see if ignition is sending a trigger signal. Does ignition switch have power. Beyond that - cruise KZfaq and see what you can find. I hope this helps!
@ethanthomas1868
@ethanthomas1868 Жыл бұрын
@@canadianwrench I was able to start the car by jumping a 12v source to the signal wire in the fuse box. That eliminates the EWS being out of sync. Me thinks ignition switch, I've ordered one that should be here next week.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Nice diagnostics!!
@ethanthomas1868
@ethanthomas1868 Жыл бұрын
@@canadianwrench thx. Got it to start fairly consistently by just running to drive then park then cranking. Weird stuff.
@canadianwrench
@canadianwrench Жыл бұрын
Ahhh - it’s starting to sound like a Neutral Safety Switch.
@joelfowler5283
@joelfowler5283 2 жыл бұрын
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@bendw
@bendw 2 жыл бұрын
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