2014 All Japan Naginata - Women's Final

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10 жыл бұрын

Amagawa vs Ajiki

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@jorgejamelo791
@jorgejamelo791 3 жыл бұрын
I am a kendo player, and yes, every time I use the kihonyo (wooden naginata mainly used for practice), I want to bite the tip which looks like a marshmallow
@deputy2421
@deputy2421 Жыл бұрын
lolllllll
@ofthefathoms2147
@ofthefathoms2147 8 ай бұрын
based
@lbozo5071
@lbozo5071 3 ай бұрын
what a truly based profile picture.
@nicholasbaez1568
@nicholasbaez1568 2 ай бұрын
I bet you like biting tips
@TuberoseKisser
@TuberoseKisser 3 жыл бұрын
People in the comments complaining and insulting the match due to not knowing how it's scored instead of taking 2 seconds to search it.
@porkchoppersgift5046
@porkchoppersgift5046 7 жыл бұрын
And this was the day the for honor meta changed forever
@See_Saad
@See_Saad 3 жыл бұрын
For Honor meta changes every update bro
@cridi0t476
@cridi0t476 4 жыл бұрын
bro feint the heavy and guard break smh gotta quit light spamming and get some heavies in
@ScienceDiscoverer
@ScienceDiscoverer 4 жыл бұрын
She better doge roll too!
@cripside60s55
@cripside60s55 4 жыл бұрын
And hidden stance
@tenou213
@tenou213 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceDiscoverer I really want to know what a doge roll looks like, now. "Much roll. So far. Flippity floop. Ground is sky. Wow."
@gabrielegenota1480
@gabrielegenota1480 3 жыл бұрын
@@tenou213 it's a game reference. Supposedd to be a joke
@Mob-tq7gv
@Mob-tq7gv 3 жыл бұрын
She should have hidden stanced then kicked then guardbreak and heavy.
@SO-oy2li
@SO-oy2li 8 жыл бұрын
in canada they use hocky sticks
@mackallred8456
@mackallred8456 6 жыл бұрын
Ho Oh lol
@oreopanda5505
@oreopanda5505 6 жыл бұрын
And they say sorry when they score lol.
@maartentux
@maartentux 5 жыл бұрын
Also in russia
@Endoptic
@Endoptic 4 жыл бұрын
But in Russia the sorry is sarcastic.
@gavinmccarty1
@gavinmccarty1 4 жыл бұрын
I can confirm this to be true
@user-pb3yv5uw5m
@user-pb3yv5uw5m 3 жыл бұрын
Naginata is the main weapon of the monk soldiers, and during the Warring States period, Japanese Buddhist temples had territories and were armed. Influential temples have vast territories and many followers, and have begun to have the same power as the landlord. Rebellion was caused in various places using believers all over Japan. Therefore, Nobunaga Oda slaughtered the temple and the monk soldiers. In addition, Naginata became a necessary skill for women who care for the landlord's wife and daughter, and became a means of self-defense.
@probablynothung8135
@probablynothung8135 2 жыл бұрын
Also because the range of this weapon make it the best choice to use in war. 🤏
@foxmulder7616
@foxmulder7616 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Did not know that.
@pauloazuela8488
@pauloazuela8488 Жыл бұрын
@@foxmulder7616 Those women who act as guards are also samurais. Male Samurais do use Naginata in a battlefield but it became a main self defense symbol weapons for the female samurais
@daemia
@daemia 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this at x0.25 speed is both enlightening and surreal, especially with the sound still on.
@curupirauirapuru3368
@curupirauirapuru3368 2 жыл бұрын
Wow its amazing 😁😁😁😁
@infinitelabyrs8971
@infinitelabyrs8971 7 жыл бұрын
who else is nobushi here
@gekiryudojo
@gekiryudojo 7 жыл бұрын
Me
@infinitelabyrs8971
@infinitelabyrs8971 7 жыл бұрын
Tesshin ryū Dojo yep knew there would be
@nepbushi7587
@nepbushi7587 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only Nobushi here
@ForgetNot_FY
@ForgetNot_FY 7 жыл бұрын
I main Nobushi. Lol She's my favorite.
@porkchoppersgift5046
@porkchoppersgift5046 7 жыл бұрын
Nobushi OP ples nerf
@Mehrunissah93
@Mehrunissah93 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this. Thank you for posting.
@kurtjschmucker
@kurtjschmucker 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, KendoWorld.
@hiddo
@hiddo 5 жыл бұрын
SONATA NI SHI WO
@lautarocata1071
@lautarocata1071 4 жыл бұрын
oshite mairu
@mr.l4770
@mr.l4770 3 жыл бұрын
其方に死を (I think I said that right)
@sonphan8174
@sonphan8174 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody understanding the rules well please explain the staring moment after a contact when 2 competitors just hold their weapon and staring at each other.
@Aureliano5174
@Aureliano5174 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'll give it a shot. Naginata is a competitive martial art which focuses only on the use of the weapon called naginata. It doesn't resemble a real fight and it isn't trying to. In real combat - as seen in classic Japanese schools, when a fighter enters close quarters, he has 3 ways to solve the situation: 1. Drop the naginata and do some empty-hand form (like grabbing the opponents arm, hitting or striking) 2. Drop the naginata and reach for a secondary weapon like a knife or a short sword 3. Perform a close quarters technique using the naginata. Since the modern naginata focuses only on the usage of naginata, the only option in close quarters is to do a naginata technique. And the two players often "wait" while applying pressure on the opponent, until an opportunity to strike shows up or until they are separated by a judge. Hope it helped :-)
@philyip4432
@philyip4432 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aureliano5174 Thank you for the explanation, but I wish the rule should be more resembling to real life combat.
@Aureliano5174
@Aureliano5174 4 жыл бұрын
@@philyip4432 I assure you, there is no "real life combat" outside the army. Everything else is just about learning techniques and trying to become better fighters, within the rules of the system ;-) It's the same for any martial art I know.
@tubbytoad
@tubbytoad 3 жыл бұрын
@@philyip4432 I don't understand why people want Kendo and Naginata to be exactly like real combat. It would make shiai so much worse and it isn't like you are going to have a naginata or katana in a fight like it is the sengoku period.
@Keen27
@Keen27 3 жыл бұрын
@@tubbytoad thank you, finally someone with a brain
@manoelgomesfilho5036
@manoelgomesfilho5036 3 жыл бұрын
Apresentações belíssimas. Apuradas técnicas de Naginata.
@KrathingDaen2666
@KrathingDaen2666 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, KendoWorld. But, is it a movie of championship held in 2013, right?
@Liamv4696
@Liamv4696 3 жыл бұрын
*Violent fighting breaks out, mid-marshmallow roasting competition* - Colourised, circa 1897.
@kiyobot123
@kiyobot123 23 күн бұрын
😂😂 😂
@PSP-lr7ms
@PSP-lr7ms 3 жыл бұрын
it looks like they hate each others guts🤣
@user-kd3ir3tb8g
@user-kd3ir3tb8g 7 жыл бұрын
日本の武道を絶やさず継承してくれて有難う御座います。
@Hope-ck6hy
@Hope-ck6hy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! (Anybody knows what's the background shouting mean?)
@animeworld5847
@animeworld5847 10 жыл бұрын
Is it me or the girl with black gloves started winning after the second blow (it seemed like they were talking at the beggining
@tanyadegurechaff6479
@tanyadegurechaff6479 3 жыл бұрын
Late but.. It is the power of *Friendship*
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor Жыл бұрын
This looks like wicked fun.
@santiagoalonso1281
@santiagoalonso1281 5 ай бұрын
why do I enjoy this so much?
@CallMeetheJester
@CallMeetheJester 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@rogerfulgham3941
@rogerfulgham3941 Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@glbernini0
@glbernini0 2 жыл бұрын
Is smack talking or evil glares a part of the combat?
@MyLamington
@MyLamington 10 жыл бұрын
that's so cool
@blueonblack83
@blueonblack83 5 жыл бұрын
So what exactly is happening at 0:24 (or many other times in the video where they get really close to each other)? If I didn't know any better, I would think they were trading insults.
@capitalistamalvadao4278
@capitalistamalvadao4278 4 жыл бұрын
that's what i thought...
@bloyo2071
@bloyo2071 4 жыл бұрын
Too close to effectively strike. Only the tip of the naginata is bladed. So basically it's a game of chicken to see who DARES back up first
@mochihammer5459
@mochihammer5459 7 жыл бұрын
Watching this, it seems as though you're supposed to do something to defend against an offensive attack; for example, if someone comes at you with that, hit it with your own long stick!
@stanlystan2730
@stanlystan2730 8 жыл бұрын
So to sum this up, you can have the naginata blade on your neck all you want, but if you get hit on a pinky its over?
@Cha4k
@Cha4k 5 жыл бұрын
You cant score just by touching the blade on someone, It has to be a full strike. However you cant score by striking someone across the neck like that because its dangerous and you could cause serious injury. So some people simply ignore the blade resting there knowing that it wont score. Which is kind of annoying. There is always debate about if this should be a penalty or not.
@AnimeMemers
@AnimeMemers 4 жыл бұрын
Cha4k it should count because imagine a real battle, a blow to the neck=ded
@AssasiCraftYogUscus
@AssasiCraftYogUscus Жыл бұрын
@@Cha4k ik this is a 3 year old comment. But why not use plates or a padded jacket to allow full contact?
@almond-sadness
@almond-sadness Жыл бұрын
@@AssasiCraftYogUscus i'm no expert, but it probably limits your mobility a lot. i do taekwondo and the gear we have to wear during sparring is pure PAIN
@Densoro
@Densoro 7 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to understand the pauses like at 0:20. They look like they're binding (is that what you call it in kendo? I only know European terms), but at 0:26 when the other fighter lowers her point, they just walk away from each other. So was :20 some kind of time-out? Were they discussing the validity of the blow, or do they leave that to the judges to figure out? In the SCA we have a lot of 'death by discussion' but idk if that's what I'm seeing here. They do the same thing at several points throughout the video (3:03, 3:37) and I keep trying to figure out what it is. Some kind of stand-off because they're too close to effectively attack -- so it's a 'quick draw' to retreat into striking range? But then at 3:59, the red fighter doesn't seem to be worried about the white fighter's point passing right in front of her neck, so maybe it's not a standoff after all... ...I'm clearly missing something XD But their skill is still quite evident.
@Shroosk
@Shroosk 7 жыл бұрын
Densoro somtimes they stay close after a strike. There is no opportunit of attack at this distance. But if ever one is not aware, it is possible to strike when moving backward. Naginata is a polearm, you can only hit from a longer distance than kendo fight. When the blade is moving close to the neck, it was not a threat. Naginata is not like european fencing. Touching is not hurting. In order to strike a valid blow, you need to cut with help of your whole body motion. You also need to strike on valid part : most important are over the head, the throat, wrist, legs, with the valid part of the naginata : curving part of the blade (5cm long) or the white forward end (on the throat) or the naginata back end ( 20 to 25 cm from back end and only on legs)
@Aureliano5174
@Aureliano5174 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, First, please remember that this is not a real naginata fight. In reality there are no rules, no scores, no honor and no right or wrong. Either you do what is needed to win or you die. Now, naginata is a long range fencing weapon by it's definition. Of course there are various techniques for using it in close combat but one would prefer to engage from a safe distance. So in reality what did samurai do when reaching to such close distance? Probably use a close-quarters naginata technique or draw a sword or a knife (kenjutsu\tantojutsu). Or use hand-to-hand techniques (jujutsu). Back to modern naginata, as we practice solely NAGINATA techniques we are limited to either use close-quarters naginata techniques or to retreat to the original distance. Doing anything else would be not be related to what we do and will also put our opponent in danger of injury.
@thearchives446
@thearchives446 5 жыл бұрын
No they just reset after a clean hit lands, so they're discussing the exchange
@Aureliano5174
@Aureliano5174 4 жыл бұрын
@@thearchives446 there is no "discussion" whatsoever during a match.
@tubbytoad
@tubbytoad 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aureliano5174 There is 合議 but that is for the shinpan.
@DoomSpellSkadi
@DoomSpellSkadi 3 жыл бұрын
2:55 Y a clear stab on head score no point?
@cathalduffy3739
@cathalduffy3739 3 жыл бұрын
COuld have been with the flat of the blade?? Just a guess
@porkcutlet3920
@porkcutlet3920 2 жыл бұрын
If it's like Kendo, only thrusts aimed at the throat counts. For the head, you need to hit the top or side.
@alejandrocastellanos7139
@alejandrocastellanos7139 10 жыл бұрын
Why are they separated when they close in, even if nobody has connected with anything?
@JBJaeggerjaquez
@JBJaeggerjaquez 5 жыл бұрын
nobushi brought me here
@don_gerar757
@don_gerar757 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@ScrubLife94
@ScrubLife94 5 жыл бұрын
"Oshite mairu" xD
@CarlosJimenez-vx9jx
@CarlosJimenez-vx9jx 4 жыл бұрын
So nata ni shio xddd
@larimarsguidetocreativity5468
@larimarsguidetocreativity5468 3 жыл бұрын
What are the rules?
@Shan81044
@Shan81044 7 жыл бұрын
Lawful techniques from martial arts, is the Japan Naginata!
@Maruchipawa
@Maruchipawa Жыл бұрын
I dont know what this is, but dayum.... It look cool as heck
@radizero
@radizero 5 жыл бұрын
"Oshite mairu!"
@lautarocata1071
@lautarocata1071 4 жыл бұрын
sonata ni shi wo
@txicocamotl
@txicocamotl 4 жыл бұрын
Never lose your cool, baby.
@vumazwesiziba4103
@vumazwesiziba4103 5 жыл бұрын
karate shoukoushi brought me here and I'm on chapter 28
@TeddyB3ARGaming
@TeddyB3ARGaming 5 жыл бұрын
fighto desu
@lemuelrossdysalvatore3819
@lemuelrossdysalvatore3819 6 жыл бұрын
Why are they talking?
@Vergil06
@Vergil06 5 жыл бұрын
키야 루즈하노
@avalonjustin
@avalonjustin 4 ай бұрын
Nice work, but could they beat the legendary Benkei?
@user-wj7nt7mo4h
@user-wj7nt7mo4h 4 жыл бұрын
Hello nobushi mains
@AaronCFourteen
@AaronCFourteen Жыл бұрын
I expected this to be much more dynamic...
@KiokiYuudoku
@KiokiYuudoku 2 жыл бұрын
Oshtayo Nadru !!!
@theholyegg4203
@theholyegg4203 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t get why sometimes they just stare each other down and get close
@TheXIIWizard
@TheXIIWizard 2 жыл бұрын
Intimidation prolly
@pinkey2235
@pinkey2235 4 жыл бұрын
Big stick with curved blade very scary I see it I run
@meep6188
@meep6188 3 жыл бұрын
I am so Confucius as to what is going on
@liamthecrusader5056
@liamthecrusader5056 3 жыл бұрын
So we’re all nobushi mains? Ok
@temmieflare3000
@temmieflare3000 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@zzeclipse
@zzeclipse 3 жыл бұрын
EEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@d1collosuslmg909
@d1collosuslmg909 3 жыл бұрын
Why won't they go into hidden stance?
@mr.l4770
@mr.l4770 3 жыл бұрын
They're afraid the other will GB them
@d1collosuslmg909
@d1collosuslmg909 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.l4770 Damn your right
@WJen8
@WJen8 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why this was recommended to me but I kinda wanna see some real naginata action now 😮
@pashico7082
@pashico7082 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that there would be more "technique" in naginata than this. Disappointing. Or is it just restricted in matches?
@emmanuel7446
@emmanuel7446 5 жыл бұрын
There are more techniques in naginata. But those fighters are both highskilled so they use the most effective techniques. Also they have a defense that makes the opponent using the same attack. If you can see a fight against lower rank fighters there will be a lots of different techniques because the defense is not as good as those in the video. :)
@scarlettred3571
@scarlettred3571 4 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuel7446 They are using techniques most effective in the context of the match.
@parwitch
@parwitch 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about this weapon. Could someone please explain me, while being at an extreme close range, why can't we just use one hand to grab (or obstruct) the opponent's weapon and use the other hand to hold our weapon in shorter grip and stab at the gap between armor like at armpit, neck or thigh?
@The_Mystical_Platypus
@The_Mystical_Platypus 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with this particular sport but to my knowledge most fencing and kendo/hema-like systems and sports don't incorporate the kind of grappling you'd see in actual combat. Other issue is this is just wooden, an actual Naginata is gonna have a metal blade at the top so given the weight distribution, it might be impractical to wield it one handed.
@simonphoenix3789
@simonphoenix3789 2 жыл бұрын
parwitch if it were actual combat, that is what would happen. But in this, they have to land strikes with the blade portion on designated areas.
@siddhantbiradar1791
@siddhantbiradar1791 3 жыл бұрын
My shadowfight bros and sis, hello
@lautarocata1071
@lautarocata1071 4 жыл бұрын
nobushi be like
@tipsy634
@tipsy634 4 жыл бұрын
The annoying westerners in the comments complaining it's not like their games... It's basically an alternative to fencing - of course it's not going to be awesome, because beating people up with a stick is reckless.
@mrspeigle1
@mrspeigle1 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this art practiced with a bit more realism a jitsu rather than a do. It's too much like fencing with its restrictive rule set which disallows grappling
@Cha4k
@Cha4k 5 жыл бұрын
You should do it. Most people are happy to fight with the strikes being limited to the armour since we want to practice these martial arts into old age and cant afford the risk of injury that comes with no safety restrictions. Also most people practice these for the physical and mental intensity required, For the suffering you have to endure and the discipline you develop as a result. Not because they want to re-enact fully realistic ancient fights. However, There is nothing stopping you from going for it :)
@mrspeigle1
@mrspeigle1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Cha4k already do, just wish I had more skilled opponents to play with.
@Aureliano5174
@Aureliano5174 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrspeigle1 if you ever come around Israel drop me a pm. I have some experience in fighting with HEMA guys using naginata.
@samuraijackoff5354
@samuraijackoff5354 9 ай бұрын
A bit late, but there are 'games' or war reenactments where they do all that. Search up "Samurai armor battle" or something like that and you'll get the idea.
@J2897Tutorials
@J2897Tutorials 8 жыл бұрын
What type of sword are those emulating?
@Cruxispal
@Cruxispal 8 жыл бұрын
+Johnny English like the video said, naginatas which are polearms.
@LamantinoElettronico
@LamantinoElettronico 5 жыл бұрын
Those are not swords. Those are naginatas which are a type of Japanese halberd/glaive/spear
@scarlettred3571
@scarlettred3571 4 жыл бұрын
@@LamantinoElettronico Technically, nagi-nata means long-blade/sword.
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis 4 жыл бұрын
The naginata was a polearm expecially used by female members of samurai clans (generally)
@konoha1993
@konoha1993 4 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of scary looking ladies
@firebirdchild975
@firebirdchild975 4 жыл бұрын
look up the history behind this weapon the ladies that made them famous are legends
@DinO-zs7ou
@DinO-zs7ou 5 жыл бұрын
It's uncomfortable to see how unprotected their arms are
@Aureliano5174
@Aureliano5174 4 жыл бұрын
Once you start practicing you see that such protection is not needed.
@joonaskekoni2867
@joonaskekoni2867 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aureliano5174 Arms are apparently not legal targets right?
@Aureliano5174
@Aureliano5174 3 жыл бұрын
@@joonaskekoni2867 only a small portion, the one which is next to the wrists
@monikamatas9340
@monikamatas9340 3 жыл бұрын
Fate hollow ataraxia anyone?
@stefanogalletti7902
@stefanogalletti7902 4 жыл бұрын
Hockey su legno
@user-bm3ts2ql6s
@user-bm3ts2ql6s 3 күн бұрын
Where is Yosuke? He identifies as a woman right ubisoft?
@cicadianrhythm
@cicadianrhythm 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see fencing or kendo or any other weapon-based fighting style turned sport, I can't help but think "I'm learning nothing about how people actually fought with these weapons, am I?" It's always a hot second of action, followed by a significant amount of milling about, presumably so the judges can do their business. Look, I'm not saying we need to bring back gladitorial-style blood sports, but actually that's exactly what I'm saying.
@LamantinoElettronico
@LamantinoElettronico 5 жыл бұрын
Well, you're learning how to assume proper guards and make attacks with structure. Close enough I'd say
@Nemesis_T_Type
@Nemesis_T_Type 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Just like point fighting karate or taekwondo doesn't work in MMA. I'm betting real samurai battles is more like fencing in a sense that there will be more movement, faking attacks and dodging involved than blocking or parrying.
@user-yc6ts7gn5j
@user-yc6ts7gn5j 3 жыл бұрын
白にもファイトです言ってやれよ笑
@avirongraff
@avirongraff 10 жыл бұрын
de la deformation des techniques...
@fume6923
@fume6923 6 жыл бұрын
Id rather watch gameplay of Nobushi as thats what i was expecting... anyone else?
@lilithshopping7904
@lilithshopping7904 9 жыл бұрын
confusing rule of the game.
@No_Moo_Hyun
@No_Moo_Hyun 3 жыл бұрын
The winner's prize is my dinner invitation.
@mombo4111
@mombo4111 Ай бұрын
boring xD
@DaveNanan
@DaveNanan 2 жыл бұрын
You mean they don't use real naginatas? 😂
@golupolu4468
@golupolu4468 4 жыл бұрын
So freaking lame. Was expecting something more exciting.
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a real fight. All sports of Martial Arts are defined by rules and regulations.
@dimdimdimsum8808
@dimdimdimsum8808 4 жыл бұрын
they should use real but slightly dull blade and full armor. that would be better so no prancing around...
@scarlettred3571
@scarlettred3571 4 жыл бұрын
Even a blunt blade can be very dangerous, which can cut through a variety of materials that are analogue to human flesh. An impact from any weighted object can transfer enough energy through armour to break bones and cause other injury.
@ored3877
@ored3877 10 жыл бұрын
Is just me or the swords are bent that they look like hockey sticks
@virtualsleeep
@virtualsleeep 10 жыл бұрын
They're not swords. It's naginata. Naginata have curved blades.
@gulfrelay2249
@gulfrelay2249 5 жыл бұрын
sleepy legend has it that naginata used broken/ discarded katana, hence the curve. females of samurai class used this for home defense upper class girls still practice in this.
@Aureliano5174
@Aureliano5174 4 жыл бұрын
@@gulfrelay2249 While it's possible that in some rare occasions broken katanas were used to make naginatas, its definitely not the mainstream. The blade of the naginata differs from the katana in several ways and there is plenty of pictures from museums and also enough historical records to support that. Also - as far as I've seen - naginata is not restricted to "upper class". It's Integrated to the mainstream highschools in Japan and anyone can join a naginata club
@nozii06
@nozii06 7 жыл бұрын
not really impressive
@porkcutlet3920
@porkcutlet3920 2 жыл бұрын
You would be impressed if you were facing them.
@badmagician7297
@badmagician7297 3 жыл бұрын
Came here for blade sticks, got a weak women's hockey fight.
@STBRetired1
@STBRetired1 2 жыл бұрын
This "sport" is as useless as fencing. It is completely UNrealistic compared to real fighting with sharp, edged weapons. Seems like you would learn more dangerous moves that would get you killed rather than learning a fighting art that could save your life.
@iceman27406
@iceman27406 Жыл бұрын
hadouken na na na ney hadouken K.O.!!!
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