To keep the balance in the force....

1990 i would have toutqed the case with a spec and slso include the torque spec for the drain plug

you can also wedge a penny in between the 2 gears

You don't NEED to buy the gaskets, also you don't need to clean the screen and the spinner every oil change. The gaskets are $10 for both from the dealer...

@@PanditaP still more work and costly than buying a filter. a stupid design if you ask me

It actually is cheaper than the new design. That main gasket needs to be replaced no matter what model year you have if you open that side cover. The Spinner gasket ONLY needs to be replaced every 4000 miles, which is when they recommend you clean the spinner. The simpler oil changes of drain/replace oil do not require the cover to be opened nor does it require the oil filter to be cleaned (you only clean the filter every 4000 miles). So the cost of an oil change on models 2021 ans older is just the oil (and the labor, if you are paying someone to do it). The cost for the oil change on 2022 and newer is oil+filter, and labor (again if you are paying to be done for you). It is not a huge expense difference, imho, but on newer models you have to hunt down that little filter every time - unless you reuse it, which is NOT recommended, but to each its own! I think all model years are super easy to maintain and with Honda's reputation of having parts available for decades it is unlikely you won't find gaskets or filters in the future!

AND, if all else fails, there is a little white dot on the filter on one location only - the white dot must face up and towards the outside (so towards you).

I never measure torque of those when installing on my personal bikes as the values are very low, but per the service manual: Drain plug is 24Nm or 18lb ft. Crankcase cover bolts are M6 and, though the manual does not specify the exact torque for these bolts, it does reference other M6 bolts with a standard torque value of 12Nm or 9lb ft. Note: Though it says 18lb ft on the drain plug I'll point out that similar sized drain plugs on other aluminum engines are recommended as low as 9lb ft and as high as 20lb ft. Most typically I've seen values closer to 12 to 14lb ft. On my personal bike I would not torque to 18lb ft. I would choose 12 or 14lb ft as an approximation of the torque I apply. It's your choice if you want to go with the Honda recommendation or a different torque value that you choose.

Per the maintenance manual, only every 4,000 miles. The rest of the scheduled Oil changes are just drain and replace the oil.

Make sure to get the internal pre screen and the spinner. Also remember that the oil level is checked by putting the dipstick in without screwing it in. You just need to set it in the hole to check the level.

that is the camshaft chain tensioner

You just need to adjust the clutch cable at both clutch handle and the cable-end

H2 z i think it like 7 pounds

H2 z how about the spec for the drainnplug

+TOMMY PO Yeah, they're all the same.

You would need to use a holding tool or another wrench. You can also place the bike in gear and have someone set on it to keep the rear tire from spinning so that the motor will not turn. When doing this service on my personal bike I opt for this method as I always have a friend around who can sit on it for a few seconds to keep it from rotating.

mnovell stick a penny in between the mesh gears this eill hold it from moving

Then it must be done quickly

+Leffa yeah I know I will do it this week for sure

Why?

+Marquis Garwood Because some people don't know what they are doing

+Leffa bassically yes.

Which is why helpful people like the bloke on this video explain things so clearly so people who aren't so mechanically minded can do their own work. This is a fairly simple procedure.

You misunderstood. I'm asking why Joeyrule111 said, "Do yourself a favour guys, don't clean spinner and filter. It's probably a bad idea if you dont know what your doing. You will end up doing silly damage. the engine will thank you." I.E., why shouldn't we do that ourselves...it's not that hard.

The first oil change isn't required by Honda at 50 miles, but a lot of Grom owners have felt it was beneficial to change the oil early to remove the large sized early break-in particles from the engine. Since we don't have a typical oil filter in our engines and we have a small oil capacity, we were just being extra cautious trying to avoid the potential for any damage. I would say 50 miles is excessively cautious, but I wouldn't think twice about changing it after a couple of hundred miles. The crush washer is a 12.5x20mm. Part numbers can be found in this thread: www.gromforum.com/forum/honda-grom-how/22250-oil-change-filter-spinner-cleaning-video.html

I should point out just so you know that Honda recommends the first service at 600miles and they suggest changing the oil only. They suggest the first cleaning of the internal filters at 7,500mi. As the parts are cheap enough and the oil volume is so low, I have a hard time imagining the oil staying very clean and therefore, I imagine a high amount of crud in the filter. I intend to change my oil and filters at every oil change for the first couple as a precautionary measure. If I find that the filters are always super clean, then I will follow Honda recommendations.

www.motosport.com/motorcycle/oem-parts/HONDA/2014/GROM125/CRANKCASE/GASKET%2C-DRAIN-PETCOCK-%2812.5X20%29/90407-259-000

hobidolap Try this "parts fiche": www.bike-parts-honda.com/ :) Doesn't have all models but the Grom/MSX125 is on there.

Philip, that works on bigger bikes with heavier weights and engines, but on the Grom if you try and undo those bolts with the bike in gear it will turn the engine by your bolt rotation.

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did you ever figure this out? can't reach mine either.

you need a smaller socket or just take off the rear set.

+Hooligoon 832 smaller socket sounds a lot easier. thanks for the quick reply!

you need a smaller socket or just take off the rear set.

Just under 1 quart. Approximately 950ml. The oil level is checked with the dipstick by setting it in the hole but NOT screwing it in.

ratoneJR easy job to do

Adambomb945 lovely profile picture

ewelina kryszczyszyn why thank you kind person!