2014 Ukraine Crisis: The Real Beginning of the War with Russia

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@warographics643
@warographics643 Жыл бұрын
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@Drewscipher
@Drewscipher Жыл бұрын
Simon, with the intelligence failures about Russia's capabilities, could we have a casual criminalist about Robert Hanssen, the FBI double agent, who was both bad at his job and then became a double agent. Kinda makes you wonder if all the hype about how powerful the Russian Army was supposed to be was also just BS with people getting paid off. The wikipedia entry reads like a short version of that rightous killer vid you did.
@Biden_is_demented
@Biden_is_demented Жыл бұрын
That is a very disingenuous description of what happenned in 2014. No mention of the fact that the country is divided, with the west being pro EU, and the East being pro-Russia. The fact that Yanukovich won a second time is a clear sign that at least the East half of the country wanted to be closer to Russia. The mass protests were conducted, not by the majority of ukranians, but by the Western half. Also no mention of the far right´s part in those protests, or the investigation that proved the sniper shots coming from the opposite side of the police, from a building occupied by members of Sektor Right. Do better.
@alphabogeyman7462
@alphabogeyman7462 Жыл бұрын
@@Biden_is_demented He conveniently forgot to mention the role of the violent neo nazi groups like svoboda,the right sector,S14/C14 and Aidar battalion. He also didn't mention the ambush on Yanukovych's convoy.
@jaskaasi
@jaskaasi Жыл бұрын
pricate internet access is owned by malware company
@imtiazakand3174
@imtiazakand3174 Жыл бұрын
Ukrain is divided one side with russia and another side with west.ukrain people are divided.ukrain must be divided into two states according to your analysis.
@mapalozimba2107
@mapalozimba2107 10 ай бұрын
I remember my high school history teacher talking about the initial spark between Russia and Ukraine and the issues it could lead to. He's a smart man
@ArgelTal_
@ArgelTal_ 3 ай бұрын
my teacher was talking about globalisation as a buzzword and the eu industry making itself dependent from china like ... 25 years ago. Sometimes teachers are very smart. ;)
@simonjones4855
@simonjones4855 3 ай бұрын
Or they just follow the actual news.
@rajlowkie6616
@rajlowkie6616 2 ай бұрын
Putin was sent to Dresden to ✋ STOP the German from moving to the west, the Germans tossed the hammer & sickle to Putin, Putin FUMBLED & the ussr collapse, Putin's KREMLIN is still fumbling.
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 Жыл бұрын
1:15 - Chapter 1 - A brief history 5:35 - Chapter 2 - The revolution & crimea 10:00 - Mid roll ads 11:25 - Chapter 3 - Summer 2014 16:30 - Chapter 4 - Ramping up the rebellion 19:40 - Chapter 5 - No end in sight 22:45 - Chapter 6 - Only a prelude
@HallsteinI
@HallsteinI Жыл бұрын
This deserves to be pinned
@Kadeo-ms6qw
@Kadeo-ms6qw Жыл бұрын
@@HallsteinI Simon isn’t allowed to pin any comments other than the one that has the sponsors links. It’s part of the terms of the sponsorship.
@csonracsonra9962
@csonracsonra9962 Жыл бұрын
@@Kadeo-ms6qw thanks for this, we don't know all the rules....I know I was in the dark. Thx again
@gemmalee3032
@gemmalee3032 Жыл бұрын
Tnx for time stamping.
@raaid85
@raaid85 Жыл бұрын
revolutio or cia sponsored coup
@ThunderRoad8888
@ThunderRoad8888 Жыл бұрын
You can't call them separatists. They were fifth columnists helping a Russian invasion. That is how Russia conducts hybrid war. A separatist would be like in Quebec, where a vote is held democratically for an independant nation. These gunmen wanted to join Russia, and we led by Russians.
@morelka1872
@morelka1872 Жыл бұрын
As a Ukrainian I got used to disinformation in western media when it comes to the war. Howewer, this video is well-made. I`m so glad that videos with deep great analysis exist.
@ThePkmage
@ThePkmage Жыл бұрын
all media has disinformation saying "western" is pointless.
@yoooyoyooo
@yoooyoyooo 11 ай бұрын
It's just a pity no videos ever link to any clear evidence. It's all heresay. For example the maydan protests. I still don't know who to blame for the blood shed. Who fired first live ammo? Ukraine has to do much more work on clearing that event. To me it looks like some right wingers brought down the legally elected president. You have to realise that people that break the democratic process can't claim continuation of the state. That state was violated it's a huge question who has the right to continue ruling it and what part of it.
@yoooyoyooo
@yoooyoyooo 11 ай бұрын
I'm not claiming I have the answers but I do have questions and I'm not pro any side I'm undecided because information is being disputed all the time and it's very hard to know what the truth is.
@malcomx1924
@malcomx1924 10 ай бұрын
Lol you’re definitely a Russian, if you think that Russian media isn’t 90% propaganda and 10% real journalism you bumped your head. At least in the west we have acces to all the info and you can form your own opinion… and we don’t have cars with loudspeakers from the government playing government propaganda. Good luck being conscripted in yhe russian military!
@Sandor7698
@Sandor7698 9 ай бұрын
It was the terrorist Jewish regime in Kiev that started this war, Russia will finish it. I hope that your people know what kind of Jewish monster the majority of Ukrainians voted to power.
@Schizniit
@Schizniit Жыл бұрын
Great videos, because even back in 2013-2014 when shit started really hitting the fan in Crimea, people in the US had absolutely no idea it was even happening or that it had turned into war, and then fast forward to the end of the ceasefire, most people here think it was the beginning of the war, when it was just the end to a ceasefire during a conflict that has been going on for almost 10 years now.
@TaTa-ce1kq
@TaTa-ce1kq Жыл бұрын
Not only in the US but also around the world. Thus such videos are really important for an objective and fair assessment. Thanks to Simon.
@Munin497
@Munin497 11 ай бұрын
And not only that, most who comment on the political games behind it completely forget about the faulty election, the poisoning and the orange revolution.
@LordPadriac
@LordPadriac 9 ай бұрын
Not true at all. We knew. It was on TV almost every night. We're in the same position now though. Short of invading Ukraine ourselves and coming into direct conflict with Russia in open war there is nothing else we can do. Such an invasion will not happen unless Putin uses a nuke which would leave nothing left for us to lose. There is too much at stake for the world to act recklessly.
@Lt_Dans_Legs_
@Lt_Dans_Legs_ 5 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it was all over the news
@kevinnovak6511
@kevinnovak6511 Жыл бұрын
I had to search 'Warographics', to find this channel, after watching your video on the RC-135; While your other channels are mostly linked, this one was not listed, in going into the Channels list from that channel.
@nathaniellong4281
@nathaniellong4281 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I've also heard a few pieces of information from other analysts. Crimea is home to the city of Sevastopol, where Russia's Black Sea Fleet is based. This port city is important because it is the only port that remains ice free year round for the Russian Navy to operate from. While Russia's Navy is probably not it's strongest military branch, having one branch of your military being unable to operate for half a year because of the weather isn't a good thing at all. Russia was leasing the port from Ukraine at the time of the protests. With the resulting change of government, Russia was uncertain if any new likely pro-EU government would let Russia continue to lease the port, and this uncertainty could have been a major reason for Russia to move the o annex Crimea. But there is also another reason. A few years before 2014, large reserves of oil and natural gas were discovered in Ukraine, so large in fact that Ukraine suddenly had the 14th largest natural gas reserves in the world. Many of the oil and natural gas reserves were located off the coast of Crimea. Now, the Russian government is majority funded by, and the Russian economy is essentially built up on the sale of natural gas and oil. If Ukraine were to develop their oil and natural gas reserves, Russia's oil and natural gas customers could decide to instead buy Ukrainian oil and natural gas, threatening the Russian government and economy. Plus, with Russia largely funded by the sale of oil and natural gas, Russia could always use more oil and natural gas to sell.
@mirkovic
@mirkovic Жыл бұрын
… the development and research to take advantage of these richness? None! You left out a third FACT off, that the MAJORITY of the population in CRIMES happens to be Russian Speaking, hence the overwhelming result on the plebiscite, ANOTHER FACT sorely missing from your reasons Crime went Russia…
@nathanjw940
@nathanjw940 Жыл бұрын
Good for Ukraine there's plenty of water access on the black sea in Ruzzia.
@bhubankumarchhetri3311
@bhubankumarchhetri3311 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanjw940 Zoolensky destroyed Ukrop already.
@jrobertsoneff
@jrobertsoneff Жыл бұрын
All Russia needs is another yankee base on its doorstep.
@darenzy
@darenzy Жыл бұрын
Severomorsk near Murmansk is also ice free. Namely, ice isn't much of a problem for Russians, as they have many icebreakers. Even quite a fleet of nuclear ones.
@JamesNettum
@JamesNettum Жыл бұрын
Simon's on his third VPN sponsor?! There is some untold drama happening in Sponsorship Land.
@SEAZNDragon
@SEAZNDragon Жыл бұрын
More like a bidding war
@Aothis
@Aothis Жыл бұрын
History and political videos are being demaunitized left amd right so most history content creators have to use sponsors.
@LeeDaegon
@LeeDaegon Жыл бұрын
Demonitized is a pretty way of saying "censorship"
@robertopics
@robertopics Жыл бұрын
@@LeeDaegon kind of but not outright, more like soft censorship.
@garrettmorton774
@garrettmorton774 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering the history of this conflict, Simon. It's important, but it hasn't received proper attention in the West for the last eight years.
@AGMI9
@AGMI9 Жыл бұрын
hasnt received it on purpose because USA has been setting this proxy war up since then, they have been training and funding nationalists who have been shelling civilians in the Donbas this is pay back against Russia by the US for Russia saving Assad in Syria which was also a US lead regime change attempt.
@user-DongJ
@user-DongJ Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Fortunately/Unfortunately for those who took the effort to understand war, money & nature from works like Sun Wu's Art of War, Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations & Carl Sagan's Vision of Humanity, s/he/they will realise there exist many who will seek profits/opportunities from this crisis. This may explain why many elites/experts from states like US, China, EU, India, UK, Russia, AU, Brazil, etc. groups like IMF, WHO, UNP, RSF, ICC, WFP, TSB, POG, etc. & firms like Apple, Tencent, Samsung, Nestle, Loreal, Tata, Sony, Siemens, etc. are already making their moves in the cyber/shadow space.
@robertyoung8785
@robertyoung8785 Жыл бұрын
Garret Morton,.. and never likely to be.
@noth606
@noth606 Жыл бұрын
define what you mean by 'proper' - where I am it's been in the news enough that I stopped following news altogether.
@AngelosGT
@AngelosGT Жыл бұрын
What do you mean it hasn't received proper attention in the West? The West was directly involved in all these protests by sending representatives to support the protesters. Where have you been for that long?🤣
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y Жыл бұрын
Great summary
@valentynknyaziev3524
@valentynknyaziev3524 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@nealhoffman7518
@nealhoffman7518 Жыл бұрын
A couple months behind on KZfaq and currently binging Whistler. I remember watching the 2014 events unfold on the news... and then disappeared without resolution. I hate the short attention span of the 24hr news cycle
@sepnyte9422
@sepnyte9422 Жыл бұрын
I genuinly thought it had been resolved somehow and I just missed it. Huge shock to realize that wasn't the case.
@netzoned
@netzoned Жыл бұрын
You did not watch the events unfold on the news. You watched prop. Unless what you watched told the fact that the US led the 0-throw of UA in late March 2014, which started this whole mess.
@mattcromwell4308
@mattcromwell4308 Жыл бұрын
Such an important prelude to understand the current war. Thanks for a great explanation of the conflict as always
@moosesnWoop
@moosesnWoop Жыл бұрын
it's got a lot of gaps, but it's a good start.
@Nightwing690
@Nightwing690 Жыл бұрын
US and NATO caused it, you're welcome
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 Жыл бұрын
The methods used to take Crimea and the East are what NATO was built to deal with. Sadly politicians always take the east line. It’s far easier to pretend Russia is not trying to encroach into Eastern Europe.
@danielbrown6112
@danielbrown6112 Жыл бұрын
Victoria Nuland Wikileaks is a big left out part lol. For those who don’t know I’ll sum it up. The US state department with Victoria Nuland hand picked which Ukrainian person would be able to take which ‘elected office’..... there is a leaked phone call where she does this with another US state department rep. Aka - USA is hand picking ‘elected officials’ in a ‘parliamentary democracy’..... it’s a fraud. Add the rejected IMF loan/debt/hyper interest rate deal Yanokovich rejected prior to the well funded riots of Maidan and you have a confessions of an economic hit man situation/pressure Russia at the border situation all controlled by USA (likely our deep state CIA not our own puppet elected leaders). Convenient to leave all of that out, lol. Worst part is the content creator here clearly KNOWS all of this already.... he just deliberately doesn’t tell us. And look - none of this is about blindly supporting Russia or bashing USA, I am American and I love my country.... this is about being truthful about what is happening. An honest accounting. If us Americans can’t recognize that we are hijacked by economic neo imperial interest then we are being dishonest and we are destined to servitude. We have the responsibility to question our leaders and learn the truth about major situations. WE are the super power, that comes with immense responsibilities and the need for transparency IF we are going to parade around like we are truly a ‘democratic republic’.... otherwise we are just fake liars hijackded by criminals usurping our international prestige and honest military might. We have a constitution. But back to our Content Creator here - his target audience is people looking to learn about the conflict with little other source material. Here is mine: 1.”Ukraine on Fire” by Oliver Stone 2.“Confessions of an Economic Hitman” by John Perkins 3. The leaked phone call with Victoria Nuland/US State Department And secondary sources which fill in the blanks and give us a deep historical context: 1. President Dwight Eisenhower’s last speech about the Military Industrial Complex 2. Major General Smedley Butler’s account to Congress about a corporate fascist state pulling the strings and conducting wars for private racketeering economic purposes.
@altuspienaar7679
@altuspienaar7679 Жыл бұрын
@@moosesnWoop you are right, it's got a lot of gaps and that makes it a very bad start because a lot of cherry picking of info to serve his biased narrative which paints an inaccurate picture and leaves his audience utterly confused as to a most obvious solution to settle this once and for all.
@ciprianokritzinger3636
@ciprianokritzinger3636 Жыл бұрын
Something important missing, why is Victoria Nuland‘s role in the Maidan 2014 event excluded in this video.
@czechultimatestyle
@czechultimatestyle 3 ай бұрын
Is that german flag mixed with russian? Stockholm syndrom of eastern germany???
@ciprianokritzinger3636
@ciprianokritzinger3636 3 ай бұрын
@@czechultimatestyle You are the first one to see the combination. Congratulations! I'm sure you can figure out why a good relation with russia is beneficial for our country. For our suzerains it would be a disadvantage. Germany should follow the American doctrine no friends no enemies, only interests.
@lasagnaocelot4766
@lasagnaocelot4766 8 ай бұрын
I remember learning a hell of a lot about these EXACT events about three or so years before the war, I correlated all of these points together while predicting the initial rush to Kiev. Not much to pride myself in but I wasn’t entirely *surprised* by all this
@oddballs7747
@oddballs7747 Жыл бұрын
Phew that's a lot of information in short space of time but Spot on great stuff 😜☺️☺️
@tassosplatis2143
@tassosplatis2143 Жыл бұрын
The Donetsk airport was newly renovated for Euro 2012. So sad to see it shambles like that....
@johnnyb2909
@johnnyb2909 Жыл бұрын
Yeah lets care about the airport...
@chillydawgg4354
@chillydawgg4354 5 ай бұрын
They had a nice new stadium there too
@CymruCelt01
@CymruCelt01 2 ай бұрын
@@chillydawgg4354the Donbas Arena, I’ve been there. I’ve also been to Hotel Liverpool in Donetsk. It was a great venue to watch live music. What I noticed about my time in Donetsk is, it’s nowhere near as pro-Russian as what it is made out to be.
@joblakelisbon
@joblakelisbon Ай бұрын
You missed the fact that the US financially supported the pro-Western candidate and literally financed and started the second revolution. After that they colluded with literal Nazis in the country. Now we have some of the best men in the world squandered in a US lead meat grinder. Oh also the loans for weapons are being spent in the US. In return for money it will never be able to pay back Ukrainian land is now up for sale and the Ukraine is de facto a US vassal state. Some of this analysis is very immature. Please take a closer look at the financial issues rather than invoking nonsense about people's uprisings etc. This is how the real world operates.
@Kefuddle
@Kefuddle Жыл бұрын
I was flying in an out of Kiev during that time. Every airline knew not to fly over Eastern Ukraine. We were banned from that airspace by our airline and our regulator. To this day I cannot understand what the Malaysian was doing there.
@westrim
@westrim Жыл бұрын
Flying the same basic route that 200 other airliners flew that week.
@Kefuddle
@Kefuddle Жыл бұрын
@@westrim 200 other airlines? 200? The US and Europe closed Eastern Ukraine to their carriers in April. MH17 was brought down in July. This recommended closure was promulgated by ICAO in April to which many regulators responded. There is a Guardian article saying that MH17 came down in different airspace, but that is not true. I specifically remember the routing we had to take. However, Dnipro Radar would often give us vectors through that airspace, which would have to decline. The point is, the world knew that was a dangerous route, but some regulators and airlines flew it regardless.
@westrim
@westrim Жыл бұрын
@@Kefuddle You're right, checking, I was misremembering. It was more like 900 airliners, from 37 airlines, including Lufthansa, according to a Der Speigel article. I don't care what was recommended or what should have happened. I'm just saying what was. And from that concluding that victim blaming is perhaps just a little wrong headed.
@Kefuddle
@Kefuddle Жыл бұрын
@@westrim Malaysian Airlines and the Malaysian CAA are not the victims, but they are responsible. They are the groups responsible for not making the airspace out of bounds. Which frankly, is staggering considering the warnings from ICAO. They are not alone, I think Singapore ignored the warnings as did a few other Asian regulators and airlines. Even where that airspace was prohibited, we still had the odd crew who were not paying attention and accepted routings through the airspace, so that is on those crew for the callous risks they took. But that is different from mandating the restriction, which in all likelihood, would have prevented the loss.
@westrim
@westrim Жыл бұрын
@@Kefuddle They lost an aircrew and an airframe, but they're not victims? What No, I didn't miss a period. Yes, Air Malaysia made a mistake, the same mistake as dozens of other airlines, but mistakes =/= responsibility. This isn't deciding who's at fault in an accident for the insurance claims. It's 100% on those who ordered the missile fired, and those who fired it. You don't blame a dead person for walking in the wrong neighborhood, or a raped woman for having a short skirt, that's disgusting. As for the weird focus on Asian airlines, again, *Lufthansa*, among other western carriers.
@okcyurwin
@okcyurwin Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative article 👍🏼👍🏼
@danielkington2984
@danielkington2984 Жыл бұрын
Please can we have a Warographics special on the 1991 sieges of Vukovar and Dubrovnik in Croatia?The tank battles, urban fighting and tactical/strategic errors made are hugely relevant to today’s war in Ukraine. It was the biggest war in Europe since 1945 and seems to be repeatedly overlooked by experts and historians when various comparisons are made with Putin’s war in the media. Thanks.
@danielknapp5189
@danielknapp5189 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to read the comment section of this video.
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 Жыл бұрын
Had a neighbor in the 2000s who'd worked in the Soviet Ministry of Defense, she said - one key reason the Ukrainians gave the nukes to Moscow - they couldn't fire them*. Moscow, unsurprisingly, kept launch control in its hands. So, they were simply very large, radioactive paperweights that Ukraine couldn't use and, in any event, couldn't afford to maintain, even if they had the launch codes. *yes, potentially, the plutonium, uranium could have been removed from the warheads and used to construct new devices but this was beyond Ukraine's financial and technical ability. The real fear of everyone - US, Russia, NATO - was that the said elements would be sold to the highest bidder - Pakistan, N Korea, Iran, etc. Interesting story about Iran - they have 3 Soviet era warheads. The Russian mafia stole them and then sold them to the Mullahs. Once again, the Iranians didn't have the launch codes and were unable to crack the encryption.
@JBM425
@JBM425 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine also gave up Tu-22 Bsckfire and Tu-162 Blackjack long-range strategic bombers as part of that NPT. Those bombers would have come in handy in the current war for hitting Russian bases and supply and combat columns before they could reach the border. For the most part, Russia has until recently been able to operate near the border with impunity, although that has begun to change recently.
@thaddeuscarpenter1580
@thaddeuscarpenter1580 Жыл бұрын
Sure If ukraine maintained them for 30 years
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 Жыл бұрын
@@JBM425 hmm, w/o fighter escorts wouldn't those bombers be shot out of the sky? In any event, it would have given Russian planners one more thing to underprepare for.
@CarbonKevin
@CarbonKevin Жыл бұрын
This is all correct. There were even those on the Russian side that said "Don't give Ukraine anything in exchange for the nuclear weapons, let them keep 'em. Soon, they'll be paying us to take them away."
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 Жыл бұрын
@@JBM425 no doubt you're right. However, could they have maintained those planes? Russians would charge outrageous prices for replacement parts assuming they'd have sold them at all.
@Jaxck77
@Jaxck77 Жыл бұрын
I was at uni in 2014 when the war first kicked off. There were a couple of us who went round to the Royal Marines recruiters office in case things escalated. Glad it didn't, but it seems like it was just a delayed reaction on Russia's part.
@tonygreen6185
@tonygreen6185 Жыл бұрын
You should listen to Jeffrey sachs.. he makes this guy look like a student compared to the professor. He outlines American foreign policy since the break up of the Soviet Union and how they have constantly and incessantly provoked Russia. Weapons on russias doorstep! Think of Cuba and that provides perfect comparison in attitude.
@TY-km8hj
@TY-km8hj 2 ай бұрын
​@@tonygreen6185 the west has been the biggest instigator of modern conflicts period
@onegoodearthcycles
@onegoodearthcycles Жыл бұрын
That was fuqing awesome Thank you
@devonweber8006
@devonweber8006 Жыл бұрын
You should do one on cypress war
@tabascopronto
@tabascopronto Жыл бұрын
An important point that many commentators and 'brief history' videos often miss: 2013 Maidan protests did not 'turn violent' all of a sudden. A small number of pro-EU protesters (mostly students) were brutally attacked by police overnight, beat up and removed from the square. The next day, around a million people came out against police brutality and demanded apology and resignation from interior minister and police chiefs. Instead, Yanukovich doubled down and escalated the violence and oppression at every step, which in turn led to demands for his resignation and new elections. Russian media have promoted the 'cia coup' narrative quite successfully (still are), so I feel that it's still important to explain the nature and progression of the protest and dispel the popular myths.
@craigwatmough8760
@craigwatmough8760 Жыл бұрын
It has been proven the cia was involved and Victoria newland this is no longer denied by America. Right sector was also a big part of what happened as well. Saying all that the Ukraine government I don’t believe where innocent during this time. History is being ruined by people with a bias and we will not learn what mistakes where really made so we can stop them from happening again it’s really sad.
@demitsuru
@demitsuru Жыл бұрын
True :)
@XIXCentury
@XIXCentury Жыл бұрын
that's not how it went but ok. Americans funded right wing groups to take shots at police officers and to set them on fire. Then after the revolution nuland and her ilk walked hand-in-hand with the victors, members of svoboda, right sector and aidar were heavily involved.
@ketelin4285
@ketelin4285 Жыл бұрын
@@XIXCentury Yeah , it's alternative victory from the victors . Anyway it's now common knowledge that violence is the last thing autorities want . Remember Timisoara and the 4000 deaths you need dead people to do revolutions , even made up dead people will do . Also the autor is disingenuous to extreme speaking about "the people" . The people was equaly divided pre 2014 into pro Ru and Pro West , definitely not unitar . More interested in how Anne-Laure Bonnet was ignored by the collective west . Miserables
@childofeternity
@childofeternity Жыл бұрын
@@XIXCentury “It really was the most blatant coup in history.” - George Friedman, Founder and CEO of Stratfor, the ‘Shadow CIA’
@cristiangabler618
@cristiangabler618 Жыл бұрын
2 little details that make this piece, at least, misleading. The second time Yanukovych won the election he asked the EU for money because the country was bankrupt. 12 or 15 billion euros if I remember correctly. The EU response was: flick off, we don’t have any money. The Russians instead offered him all the economic support he needed. Secondly, the EU told Yanukovych if you want a trade deal with us you must cut all your economic ties with Russia, who was their biggest commercial partner at that time. They simply asked Yanukovych to commit an economic suicide! Yanukovych won his second election with a pro-western message, and the western nations gave him the middle finger. He was cornered to the arms of the Russians by the same people who push him out of office after, by incentivizing and financing a coup. All of these details are public, and very important for you to overlook them.
@abellix
@abellix Жыл бұрын
I agree, I was looking exactly for the information you mentioned in the video. So many events are left out, and all at the benefit of one side... That can't be an accident, this reconstruction is so biased. And the silly voice the presenter makes every time he plays the russian part gives away his prejudice. The bold prick can keep doing his job, I will get my information somewhere else.
@eugeniamatushchenko4895
@eugeniamatushchenko4895 3 күн бұрын
Well, that is not how we see it in Ukraine. The second election was allegedly shady: Yanukovych gave elderly voters food and money as “presents.” His program was pro-west, but he never followed through. He asked the EU for money while his government was highly corrupted, and this money would have been embezzled for sure, and he refused to implement any reforms the EU and the people of Ukraine asked for. On the other hand, the new government is implementing these reforms, with its ups and downs, but it is a work in progress, and results have been reviewed and approved by international authorities.
@pedrocavalcante5822
@pedrocavalcante5822 3 күн бұрын
So why did Nuland land in Kiev that day?
@gilliganallmighty3
@gilliganallmighty3 Жыл бұрын
Georgia 2008 was the real start. It was the exact same MO as 2022.
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight Жыл бұрын
I see many people asking "how did Yanukovich got back in power if he was busted for cheating in elections?" Well, Simon did a time skip for the sake brevity in 2004-2010, so here's something to fill that void. After the "orange revolution", Yuschenko nominated another leader of the revolution as his prime minister, a woman called Yulia Tymoshenko. Together they set to deliver the promises made during the revolution. They failed spectacularly, partly due to divided parliament(Yanukovich got still 44 percent of the vote, so had genuine support among Ukrainians) and partly due to their inability to co-operate. Pretty soon they were dragged on to a conflict and argument between each other(Yuschenko fired Tymoshenko and her government in less than a year), wasting all the good will of the people they had acquired in a power struggle amongst themselves. To demonstrate just how bad it was, Yuschenko even nominated later Yanukovych as his prime minister. Following 5 years saw chaos in Ukrainian politics which among other things saw dissolution of the parliament twice and numerous accusations of corruption. Tymoshenko and Yuschenko basically competed who gets to call each other "Russian asset" the most. After 5 years of that shitshow, Yuschenko's reputation was in tatters. Remember how Simon told Yuschenko was able to get over 50 percent of the vote in 2004? Well in 2010, he got pathetic 5.45 percent. In second round Yanukovich managed to beat Tymoshenko by getting 48,95 percent of the vote, just 3.48 percent more than Tymoshenko, but it was enough. Yuschenko's and Tymoshenko's shenanigans created division and gave Yanukovich enough room to maneuver. Also while Yanukovich's close ties with Russia were in common knowledge, he didn't exactly declare "by the way, I'm going to pull stop on all attempts of integration with EU and west" during the election. While it was widely accepted that with Yanukovich's election would mean some sort of rapprochement with Russia, nuking the association agreement wasn't on the menu. Yanukovich found that out the hard way.
@AahFukIt
@AahFukIt Жыл бұрын
Thank you for spending time to help explain this. I have a question, about Christina Nuland and her role here. I was thinking about the voice recordings of her "saying fuk the EU" and disgussing future politians, including klitscko and another person
@saberint
@saberint Жыл бұрын
@@AahFukIt to be honest it was very little. The Maidan revolution was actually started by the police attacking students having a night time vigil in the night protesting the Gov's sudden about face. Btw continuing the path towards the EU trade agreement was part of Yanukovych's election promise. By the time of the intercepted phone call Maidan was already in full swing. I'd like to add a personal note to Maidan. I used to walk through the protesters and police everyday to get to and from work. For a large part of the protest both sides were rather friendly and I never once had issues from either side.
@avibhagan
@avibhagan Жыл бұрын
@@saberint wrong ! t's been proven that police did not attack anyone ! Protesters were killed by snipers. The snipers were real ! Nobody knows whose side the sniper were on ! There are accusations, nobody takes credit , and nobody would. whoever planted snipers to kill protesters (and police) wanted to encourage violence . look it up - don't take my word for it : "sniper at maidain"
@saberint
@saberint Жыл бұрын
@@avibhagan oh boy… I suggest you actually get yourself educated on this topic. As I said above, I was there, I saw police kill people. But don’t take my word for it, spend 5 minutes looking at the footage of police snipers laying on the ground shooting, police with AKs firing into the crowd. Yes there was a sniper in a hotel. The police had control of this hotel. There were police snipers on the roofs of surrounding buildings as well. That said, for the majority of the stand-off, the police were friendly. The majority also didn’t want to be there, but if they refused, they were fired on the spot and kicked out of their issued apartment within hours. Now f you want to have an intelligent conversation about the issue I am more than happy to, otherwise I suggest you keep your dribble to yourself
@thebigmonstaandy6644
@thebigmonstaandy6644 Жыл бұрын
@@saberint That was a not a revolution : you had oligarchs and became new oligarchs.and it was the idea of Janykowitsch to join to EU.But he saw that is a not possible
@ZeroCGR2
@ZeroCGR2 Жыл бұрын
You should check out Ukraine War for Independence (1917-1921) It basicly ended with Ukraine split between Poland and USSR
@iorek4149
@iorek4149 Жыл бұрын
He did it in his warographics channel
@markdturnock
@markdturnock Жыл бұрын
They already did. On this same channel. Only like 3 weeks ago
@tatianasavelieva4646
@tatianasavelieva4646 Жыл бұрын
You can study better. 1917-1921 it was not country with name Ukrain It didn’t exist
@memilshakes8576
@memilshakes8576 Жыл бұрын
Video needs more recognition
@murphywd1971
@murphywd1971 Жыл бұрын
You touched briefly on the internal political situation in Ukraine, but I think there's a LOT more to be added to this that will help explain the unanticipated strength of Ukraine's resistance to the invasion. In particular, the election of Zelensky in 2019 represented to some analysts a break from the old East-West divide in Ukrainian politics. I think this is particularly significant because it was the competing patronage systems that Putin was playing off against each other for his advantage. In retrospect, Putin's support of sectioning off the separatist regions was a mistake, because without these factions participating in the 2019 election the results gave Zelensky a much stronger mandate.
@danielbrown6112
@danielbrown6112 Жыл бұрын
Victoria Nuland Wikileaks is a big left out part lol. For those who don’t know I’ll sum it up. The US state department with Victoria Nuland hand picked which Ukrainian person would be able to take which ‘elected office’..... there is a leaked phone call where she does this with another US state department rep. Aka - USA is hand picking ‘elected officials’ in a ‘parliamentary democracy’..... it’s a fraud. Add the rejected IMF loan/debt/hyper interest rate deal Yanokovich rejected prior to the well funded riots of Maidan and you have a confessions of an economic hit man situation/pressure Russia at the border situation all controlled by USA (likely our deep state CIA not our own puppet elected leaders). Convenient to leave all of that out, lol. Worst part is the content creator here clearly KNOWS all of this already.... he just deliberately doesn’t tell us. His target audience is people looking to learn about the conflict with little other source material. Here is mine: 1.”Ukraine on Fire” by Oliver Stone 2.“Confessions of an Economic Hitman” by John Perkins 3. The leaked phone call with Victoria Nuland/US State Department And secondary sources which fill in the blanks and give us a deep historical context: 1. President Dwight Eisenhower’s last speech about the Military Industrial Complex 2. Major General Smedley Butler’s account to Congress about a corporate fascist state pulling the strings and conducting wars for private racketeering economic purposes.
@Beavereaver
@Beavereaver Жыл бұрын
The strength of the Ukrainian resistance is due to the west arming them with advanced technology that they would not have had access to otherwise. Zielinski himself said Ukraine would’ve run out of ammo in 3 days had it not been for the US.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz Жыл бұрын
But Zelensky is also an outsider, a protest vote against all the political establishment.
@OzzyBloke
@OzzyBloke Жыл бұрын
Zelenski was installed by the US. Victoria Newland who was running the US state department in leaked audio confirmed the US involvement in the coup and that she had picked Zelenski. Then of course President Biden’s son (VP at that stage in charge of Ukraine foreign policy) was suddenly appointed to the board of Ukraines biggest energy company Burisma where he was paid millions of dollars.
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 Жыл бұрын
He's done pretty well for a comedian XD
@mammuchan8923
@mammuchan8923 Жыл бұрын
People have been very uninformed about the seeds of the current events. I was in Belgium in 2005 and was having dinner with some locals. The mentioned the war that was going on in Europe and I just gave them a blank look. And I am someone that prides myself in keeping up to date with current affairs, I was very embarrassed and kept up to date after that with what little news I could find. Be that as it may, it’s really tragic that so many people are suffering and my heart goes out to all the innocents were are suffering daily. If your day was boring and work a bit stressful, consider yourself lucky.
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight Жыл бұрын
Everyone in Western and Northern Europe Had their eyes fixated on what was going on in Iraq at the time, so nothing much made it's way to the headlines.
@mammuchan8923
@mammuchan8923 Жыл бұрын
@@Ruosteinenknight hi I come from SA so we were quite removed from it. But it did teach me to seek out news 👍
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight Жыл бұрын
@@mammuchan8923 Being Finnish it was somewhat easier for us to dig up info, as Russia's dealings always reflect over here too. Another thing that also diverted people's attention was that US presidential election was also going on same time as orange revolution. Also during that time, boxing day Tsunami hit, which was one of the biggest natural distaster of the decade.
@mammuchan8923
@mammuchan8923 Жыл бұрын
@@Ruosteinenknight good point thanks for pointing that out👍👍
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 Жыл бұрын
Call me suicidal but I'd rather pick a war over mundane daily boredom. A life is purposefully lived when you're at your worst but unrelentingly fighting for what is dear to you. Certainly beats sitting in an empty white room every single day wasting away. I will be definitely traumatized and horrified or worse...even killed but at least I wont be a faux coma type plant like I was before. At least I would have a meaningful purpose. And, for the record, I generally dislike people and trust very few. But if a comrade in arms was ever in danger I would do my best to save them or even shield them. I'm only human, after all. And I hate death more. The death of others.
@RustemGafurovas
@RustemGafurovas 2 ай бұрын
Not sure why Yanukovych name is missponounced. How could it be overlooked while preparing for the video? I mean, just read his name as it's spelled everywere, why "k" at the end?
@robsumner7528
@robsumner7528 7 ай бұрын
Not exactly consistent with other version of events, but interesting none the less.
@nomoresunforever3695
@nomoresunforever3695 Жыл бұрын
The way you pronounce Yanukovych is absolutely insane.
@jewels5340
@jewels5340 2 ай бұрын
How’s is it meant to be pronounced
@eugeniamatushchenko4895
@eugeniamatushchenko4895 3 күн бұрын
@@jewels5340 with “ch”, not “k” at the end like chees vs kiss
@davidprugh4190
@davidprugh4190 Жыл бұрын
I chose to watch this video NOT because I am unaware of the history and lead-up, but because I wanted to see whether or not the video makers would be honest in their presentation. I have been operating in the area for well over a decade, and I personally experienced much of the relevant events in Ukraine during this time. I admit that I was expecting misinformation. However, I found this presentation to be honest and thorough. Sure, one could include a whole lot more micro-detail, but this video captures the important parts. Well done by the Warographics team.
@moosesnWoop
@moosesnWoop Жыл бұрын
it's got so many important gaps in geopolitics and economics. As well as historical ties and cultural identities, but out of the 99% trash videos on this issue, this seems to give viewers the best foundation.
@h2didenkov
@h2didenkov Жыл бұрын
Its nothing but repeating official State Department talking points. I could of got same info from State Dept press releases.
@everythingisinfinite4602
@everythingisinfinite4602 Жыл бұрын
@@h2didenkov ya I bet Simon gets person phone calls from the government on how exactly to best spread there propaganda. He probably has trump on speed dial not gonna lie
@PeterMuskrat6968
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
@@h2didenkov Well, considering only one side can even be called remotely reliable when it comes to information they release. Hell i’m sure local small town newspapers in the fucking Congo would be more factually correct than Russia and it’s puppet “governments”
@pepepistola9258
@pepepistola9258 Жыл бұрын
@@h2didenkov Or from Adolf Putler himself.
@ChrundleTGreat
@ChrundleTGreat Жыл бұрын
In 1994 I used to work for a Slovakian man who believed his neighbors were blowing poison gas into his yard. He was crazy, but DID live near a meth lab in Tujunga, CA (IYKYK). So I’d go there and “smell” the air for 2 hours and I’d get $40 after writing a statement about my observations. He also told me that if WWIII were to kick off it would start in the Crimea. He was crazy but VERY smart about history and politics.
@TheDJGrandPa
@TheDJGrandPa 2 ай бұрын
Genius and crazy have a way of interconnecting 😅
@pedrocavalcante5822
@pedrocavalcante5822 3 күн бұрын
I would like to know why Nuland landed in Kiev on that freezing winter day to distribute cookies to Ukrainians.
@Morozilka12
@Morozilka12 Жыл бұрын
There is quite a lot of omissions and inaccuracies in your video, though it definitely gives mere perspective to the current conflict. I'll point out just a few which are rather important. First of all, in February Yanukovich left Kyiv but not Ukraine. At least not at first. February 21 he signed a treaty (Crisis Management Treaty) with the opposition (Vitaly Klitchko, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Oleg Tyagnibok) under the supervision of the German and Polish representatives - Frank-Walter Steinmayer, Radoslav Sikorski and Eric Fournier (France). By the terms of the treaty the President should have had his authority cut on behalf of the Parliament, so that Ukrainian constitution was restored to its 2004 version. Yanukovich also agreed to hold early Presidential election no later than December same year. Same evening he left for Kharkov to join a planned meeting. Next day 112 Channel airs his speech where he declined to sign any parliamentary decision. A couple hours later the Parliament signed a document that proclaimed him to "unconstitutional dereliction of duty" and moved Alexander Turchinov (not holding any political post at the time) for Ukrainian Rada Speaker. Same day, after the meeting had been cancelled, Yanukovich left for Donetsk for another meeting, and then for Crimea though between the two, it is told that he's ben evacuated to Krasnodar, Russia, by helicopter. Anyway, while he was in Crimea, SBU (Ukraine's Defence Bureau, equal to Russian FSB or American CIA) moved in to arrest him in company with Alpha and Falcon special ops units. February 23 - Turchinov proclaims himself Acting President until the elections in May. A move that Russia to this day considers a coupt. And only the next day, February 24 Yanukovich leaves for Russia. As for the Russian Forces moving in to secure Crimea. There has been a treaty between Russia and Ukraine to split bases in Crimea as well as armaments, so a contingent of Russia's Black Sea Fleet had been the from 1997 on till 2017 with a possible prolongation. This contingent included "up to 25,000 troops, 24 artillery systems, 132 armored vehicles, and 22 military planes on the Crimean Peninsula". So, despite that little is known for sure, there was no need for any other Russian military force to cross the border and get to Crimea to bolster the marines.
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter Жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter Жыл бұрын
@thecazigan28 Didn't even watch 1 min. Whatcha gonna do about it 🕺🕺
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter Жыл бұрын
@thecazigan28 Yes. But I can see why you don't like yours 🙆‍♂️
@vargasbryce
@vargasbryce Жыл бұрын
Solid day across all channels today simon! Hopefully the algorithm picks this up because it's amazingly relevant and in depth. We need some more subscribers over here on warographics
@michstockholm1164
@michstockholm1164 Жыл бұрын
What happened with the Ukrainian Nazi elements who claim that without them the coup d etat in 2014 would remain a gay-parade, in that story? Why did he ignore the effect of the western Ukraine's ultranationalists and ultra right violent forces in the story (and in Ukraine)? Ever heard of "Azov Battalion" and the likes? Who are they? What was their role in it all?
@MarcioIkuno
@MarcioIkuno Жыл бұрын
Wow... Couldn't be more clear. Now I understand the situation as a whole. Thanks!
@johncarroll772
@johncarroll772 Жыл бұрын
@duckdodgers.8419 Oliver Stone 😅😅😅😅
@deathbeforedishonor9012
@deathbeforedishonor9012 Жыл бұрын
I remember when this started, they hit a Russian convoy and took it out and found literal Russian documents, they didn’t even try hiding it.
@jeremydonnelly1374
@jeremydonnelly1374 Жыл бұрын
Was that an intentional typo of Minsk at 22:57?
@jeffjohnson6709
@jeffjohnson6709 Жыл бұрын
You skipped the part where Yanukovych resigned and the US and Russia a deal to get him back but he had already fled and then they broke into his compound and that was it.
@iiitiberiusiii3441
@iiitiberiusiii3441 Жыл бұрын
It must be noted that already in 2014 russia was shelling Ukraine with missile launchers from its own territory and the Ilovaisk encirclement happened cause russia has employed tank brigades directly through its border which was proven by the satellite images at the time. Oh, and the Girkin, is no only a separartist leader. He is a russian citizen and FSB colonel.
@chriswood9836
@chriswood9836 Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention givi and Motorola and how much of an impact they had
@roberttaylor3594
@roberttaylor3594 Жыл бұрын
Glad I found this. I've read up on it online, but this summarises it nicely. I have now heard both sides of the argument on the break away republics, Orange Revolution, etc...the 'Coles notes' versions, anyway. You don't mention any involvement by the West, specifically the US in the two 'revolutions', but the fact that there were protests and popular support for the move toward the EU is always ignored by the 'pro Russia' side of this argument, calling the change in governments 'coupes'...but clearly they were not, as far as I can tell. Without the involvement of Russia the breakaways would not have had a chance, without the support of the West the Orange and Dignity revolutions probably still would have happened; Ukraine would still be moving toward the EU and away from Russia, it seems.
@LLlap
@LLlap Жыл бұрын
Glad that you took the time to figure it out!
@michaelotieno6524
@michaelotieno6524 Жыл бұрын
In January 2014 support in Ukraine for joining the EU was at 41%. The idea that the Ukrainian president had a clear cut choice to make between the EU and Russia is wrong. You only need to read the Ukraine/EU association agreement which allowed EU good tax free access into Ukraine. All Ukraine got in exchange was visa free access into the EU for their citizens. At the same time there was no customs border between Ukraine, Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan - which meant EU goods entering Ukraine tax free could be dumped in Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan. The most obvious fact is that since the coup and signing of the EU Association agreement had no visible economic impact.
@roberttaylor3594
@roberttaylor3594 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelotieno6524 I read up on it as you suggested and couldn’t find the tax free access for EU countries in there… I found references to moving toward a tarrif free trade agreement, which is not the same thing. Also; not really a “ coup” as far as I can see.
@LLlap
@LLlap Жыл бұрын
@DuckDodgers. it is pure evil. Ask Stalin or the Tsars.
@paleface953
@paleface953 Жыл бұрын
@DuckDodgers. it's ridiculous to say russia invaded ukraine not out of evil ambition. it is EXACTLY what it is - evil ambition. Russia wants to rule Ukraine. How else would you name it?
@ZetaScirata
@ZetaScirata Жыл бұрын
My uncle was a "cyborg" in Donetsk Airport. Since the start and killed in the end of the "siege"
@altuspienaar7679
@altuspienaar7679 Жыл бұрын
Stop with the cyborg bullshit, your uncle was part of the Ukrainian army which couldn't even stand up to a rag tag bunch of civilians with no training and some basic arms. Glory to the brave fighters of Donetsk Peoples Republic.
@mikhailv67tv
@mikhailv67tv Жыл бұрын
Your Uncle was Ukrainian warrior, that fought Orcs from Ruzzia. He’ll be remembered as far Australia.
@johnslusarenko3309
@johnslusarenko3309 Жыл бұрын
@@altuspienaar7679 That didn't age very well!
@Fruzhin5483
@Fruzhin5483 Жыл бұрын
@@altuspienaar7679 go back to the shadows, troll
@altuspienaar7679
@altuspienaar7679 Жыл бұрын
@@Fruzhin5483 you'r goddamn right I am trolling😉...but from the shadows not!
@ConeDaRagusa
@ConeDaRagusa 10 ай бұрын
JanukoviK? Was it really hard to learn to pronounce Č like you did with Jushcenko?
@TiagrajI
@TiagrajI Жыл бұрын
I'm already with nordvpn thru a previous video. Can I mix both vpn? 😅😅
@yakuzarage2301
@yakuzarage2301 Жыл бұрын
At 5:13 when you said the orange revolution was peaceful. I beg to differ, I have seen documentaries and if you search on you tube you will see it. Do your research properly before making such statements.
@dbfbobt
@dbfbobt Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have been attempting to understand the background of the present situation. This helped immensely. Now my head hurts less.
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 Жыл бұрын
Include Western vs Russia meddling into Ukraines internal politics via varying methods like Biden families shady oil deals with Ukraines oligarchs, so as usual its two superpowers proxy war with all available methods....but you should not talk about that, otherwise you are evil "Putinist" according to Western propaganda, what also pushes hard that Russian military is utterly useless, will loose any day now and is not a treat to anyone.... but some reason everyone should join to NATO and Russia is the devil... yeah makes total sense Also fun fact MA flight 17 was only aircraft in the airspace during that time, while everyone else went around the Ukraine airspace and just happened to be holding most of the worlds top AIDS researchers that were killed... one can question who this benefitted the most.... Shooting it down was no accident.
@ObjectiveMedia
@ObjectiveMedia Жыл бұрын
This is lazily researched anti-Russian propaganda and why I’d never subscribe to this channel.
@irishrebel374
@irishrebel374 Жыл бұрын
People seem to forget the 5 day war in Georgia.. the prelude etc..
@acidbot666
@acidbot666 Жыл бұрын
Why no mention of the relentless NATO's expansion toward Russian borders with troops, military bases and offensive military hardware and the role of Victoria Nuland and her State Department crew on steering the fall of Viktor Yanukovych?
@ilearnedsomethingnewtoday6193
@ilearnedsomethingnewtoday6193 Жыл бұрын
You guys need to do a video on the Battle Off Samar, also known as the last stand of the tin can sailors.
@jobanh7ify
@jobanh7ify Жыл бұрын
Yes
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee Жыл бұрын
I'd also recommend the second naval battle of Guadalcanal, the last pure gunfight between capital ships. Much like Taffy 3 at Samar, it's one of those that they can't make a movie about because nobody would believe that shit actually happened -- spoiler alert: Samar was a bunch of destroyers and baby aircraft carriers against a far superior force of battleships and cruisers, and the little guys won against all odds. Guadalcanal was two heavies and their escorts in a knife fight, the American force was losing badly, with most of the esorts mission-killed if not outright sunk, and the battleship South Dakota crippled and unable to call for help bc the electrical problems ... and then the other American battleship that nobody had noticed got close enough to visually identify which battleship-sized radar blip was which.
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee Жыл бұрын
Are you accepting spec scripts? I may be amenable to writing about the Second Battle of Guadalcanal, though I'm sure your regular writers would do a fine job of it.
@NB-lv6br
@NB-lv6br Жыл бұрын
Very good production and layout. However there was no mention of US involvement in 2014 regime change, US funding Ukraine defense since 2014. Far right involvement in Ukraine millitary. Adding these points would be a far better balanced overall outlook of the situation in the Ukraine.
@AndreAKAua
@AndreAKAua Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Ukraine held a new presidential election in 2014. So their new government and president were elected fair and square
@SoulOfRussia
@SoulOfRussia Жыл бұрын
@@AndreAKAua yeah, it was elected "fair and square" by the USA lol
@Fruzhin5483
@Fruzhin5483 Жыл бұрын
@@SoulOfRussia phahaha I actually thought it worthwhile to respond to the comment and then I read your name. Back to your cave, troll
@SoulOfRussia
@SoulOfRussia Жыл бұрын
@@Fruzhin5483 and yet you responded. What are you besides confused?
@andrehunter1295
@andrehunter1295 Жыл бұрын
Obviously you need to do some research on your own, you find leaked V neuland phone call about election in Ukraine 2014. Neuland said which president they want to choose, you here this other person said. But what about EU, what would they say if we choose him. You hear v neuland said fuck! the EU. You don't know how cynical leaders US have, for US interest they do anything. They obviously given themselves license to do what ever they wanted. And if they command western mainstream media close their eyes and ears for our work in Ukraine. Western media did exactly that, for past over 8 years.
@neon8430
@neon8430 11 ай бұрын
Are there any sources cited?
@richardeastman9846
@richardeastman9846 Жыл бұрын
Yanukovych pulled out of the EU Accord when the EU made the deal contingent on an IMF loan that was not on favorable terms and risked a debt crisis. He went to Putin and was offered better terms. The IMF didn't like that and the Maidan Revolution popped up with strong organization and money.
@platosbeard4449
@platosbeard4449 Жыл бұрын
Ssshhh. Simon prefers cherry-picked facts that paint a bogus pro-western story rather than the truth that the US has been intervening in Ukrainian affairs in order to threaten Russia on a key border which has seen multiple invasions of Russia by western powers over the previous 3 centuries.
@monaliza3334
@monaliza3334 Жыл бұрын
Yup US billions $$$ for supporting AZOVE Nazi's.
@pedrocavalcante5822
@pedrocavalcante5822 3 күн бұрын
I would like to know why Nuland landed in Kiev on that freezing winter day to distribute cookies to Ukrainians.
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 Жыл бұрын
does Putin think Ukraine is just going to accept Russian occupation? cuz even if they are occupied, the fuel for independence will continue to burn..
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 Жыл бұрын
Bruh I would not want to be in Melitopol right now. Or maybe I do, idk. Maybe I wanna be in red dawn 2022, who knows? ... WOLVERIIIIIIIIIIIINES!!!!!!!!!
@themannerchannel784
@themannerchannel784 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Ukrainians F I G H T hard
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 Жыл бұрын
@@moritamikamikara3879 best we can do is donate to the cause through our favorite charities.. beyond that, i wish you luck if you chose to go fight my friend.. WOLVERINES!! i applaud your efforts no matter.. much love, fuck putin, ship russia
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 Жыл бұрын
@@themannerchannel784 join best you can.. everything counts..
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight Жыл бұрын
There was alledgedly leaked FSB report where analyst was asking the same thing. He brought up that they can't occupy Ukraine with forces they have(200 000 men, give or take). They can't organize full mobilization because that would take way too long and political situation in Russia couldn't take it. And regime change is out of the question, because the moment Russia leaves, "their guy" is going to get same treatment as Yanukovich. While lot of people dismissed the report as fake because it sounded too good to be true, lot of it felt pretty grounded with realism. However few days after the report had been leaked, chief of foreign intelligence was along with his immediate subordinate were ordered to house arrest and interior ministry's agents raided their offices.
@elatomala1976
@elatomala1976 Жыл бұрын
So many people do need to learn about the History of when things started.
@RHINOTEJAS
@RHINOTEJAS Жыл бұрын
Putin needs to know this : This invasion started 10 months ago and it’s been a failure , time for the Russians to leave Ukraine 🇺🇦.
@jackflashproductions6898
@jackflashproductions6898 Жыл бұрын
Your researchers sure skipped paragraphs and left out chapters!!! I wonder why?
@BradyPostma
@BradyPostma 20 күн бұрын
They didn't talk about the conspiracy theories around the conflict, if that's what you mean.
@randlerobbertson8792
@randlerobbertson8792 9 ай бұрын
Over a year on this is still relevant and informative😊
@mechanicaldavid4827
@mechanicaldavid4827 Жыл бұрын
On the other hand, there was also the breakaways in Chechnia Pt 1 & 2
@killer923
@killer923 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the vice on the ground coverage of Ukraine every might thinking how insane it was
@MrRoyalbeers
@MrRoyalbeers Жыл бұрын
In hindsight I can't remember vice showing us the russian soldiers though. I find it impossible to believe that they werent aware of their presence while embedded with the seperatists.
@imswanronson3558
@imswanronson3558 Жыл бұрын
@@MrRoyalbeers I remember them implying it a lot, especially with crimea and the Belorussian “volunteers” but vice were mostly on the Ukrainian side of the fighting
@MrRoyalbeers
@MrRoyalbeers Жыл бұрын
@@imswanronson3558 im specifically referring to when they were with seperatists. Not Ukranien.
@imswanronson3558
@imswanronson3558 Жыл бұрын
@@MrRoyalbeers I highly doubt sep leadership and their masters were going to let a western media company film russian soldiers at that time. The vice journo with the butt chin even claims to have gotten tortured by Russians and after that they were cautious about showing the other side
@spagutti
@spagutti Жыл бұрын
@@MrRoyalbeers They still have the episodes on their KZfaqchannel. They are well aware that it's russian soldiers.
@madsrolstad1664
@madsrolstad1664 Жыл бұрын
Not usually a fan of the channel, but you guys knocked it out of the park with this video, Incredibly insightful.
@lordfedjoe
@lordfedjoe Жыл бұрын
Wrong, it's completely biased. Can't you see the whole video is one-sided. No single stain on Ukrainian side
@thevozhd9846
@thevozhd9846 Жыл бұрын
@@lordfedjoe Kremlin bot, hope you recieved your 2 Roubles
@v.v.m9157
@v.v.m9157 Жыл бұрын
@@lordfedjoe Because there are none.
@benjaminnguyen554
@benjaminnguyen554 Жыл бұрын
i have so many questions but my questions incrementally go back hundreds of years lol
@BradyPostma
@BradyPostma 20 күн бұрын
I recommend the book _The Gates of Europe_ by Sehii Plovkhy. It covers Ukraine's history from ancient Greece to Zelensky.
@nicoler.wunderink_2874
@nicoler.wunderink_2874 Жыл бұрын
Please do one on the passenger jet on one of your channels
@xmaniac99
@xmaniac99 Жыл бұрын
So in retrospect, what was the Budapest memorandum worth?
@diogorodrigues747
@diogorodrigues747 Жыл бұрын
It was a big error.
@yoloswaggins7121
@yoloswaggins7121 Жыл бұрын
It was worth it. Ukraine couldn't use the nukes anyway, and Russia weren't the only country that wanted Ukraine to give up their nukes. The US was also uncomfortable with another nation have nukes and Ukraine risked becoming internationally isolated in the new world order if they didn't give them up.
@oleksandrnahnybida3167
@oleksandrnahnybida3167 Жыл бұрын
@@yoloswaggins7121 “Ukraine couldn’t use nukes” this is stupid point I see a lot.
@yoloswaggins7121
@yoloswaggins7121 Жыл бұрын
@@oleksandrnahnybida3167 Why is it a stupid point?
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD Жыл бұрын
@@yoloswaggins7121 "Ukraine couldn't use the nukes anyway" - they could but it would take massive investment
@J.M.254
@J.M.254 Жыл бұрын
Hello Simon, I have just subscribed to your channel as I am enlightened to your narrative of what really happened and what is still happening the the Donbass region. Please keep up the facts, cause it's lacking in many other news channels today. I'll be following you. Thank you 🤩
@npoliver2757
@npoliver2757 Жыл бұрын
Suggest you try following Patrick Lancaster - living in and covering the Donbass for the last 8 years. and Eva Bartlett - It will really give you some facts.
@skrmacs4815
@skrmacs4815 Жыл бұрын
Russian aggression? This guy is total byass to the west
@johnbullard902
@johnbullard902 Жыл бұрын
Great overview, thanks!
@blackedmirror5073
@blackedmirror5073 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know any good documentaries about this?
@jahrazzjahrazz8858
@jahrazzjahrazz8858 Жыл бұрын
Tbh the part around 12:00 kind of glosses over how shady the early establishment of LPR and DPR were, most likely a bunch of "Little green men" special forces were there too, lots of the early separatists were always fully masked, professional, armed to the teeth and just "concerned citizens" who wouldnt tell reporters who they are or where they came from, just like in Crimea.
@maksymkashchuk5420
@maksymkashchuk5420 Жыл бұрын
Good video with explanation, but also one big mention about role of girkin(strelkov), he was not only the first ruler of dpr, but he also was a gru russian agent, he was coordinated by kremlin and with his gru squad come in Donbas in 2014 and started all events. Also he was the main coordinator when mh17 was shoot down
@br0k3nman
@br0k3nman Жыл бұрын
This!!!! The LPR and DPR would have been nothing more than a few armed militia thugs if it wasn’t for the fact that the whole thing was a GRU/SVR/RUAFIntelligence operation from the start. They spent millions upon millions on social media propaganda operations, bribing local officials, giving heavy weapons, providing intel and mercenaries, and in general tricking every Russian speaking apathetic gopnik, wannabe warlord, or just plain greedy govt office plankton into making up the LPR/DNR…. which if the region were to organically grow would have never been a thing. Most Ukrainians, even in the east, income and quality of life had been rising with better ties to the west. Just look at Karelia or Kaliningrad if you want to see what “quality of life” looks like when you go Russian… the Muscovite oligarchs will rob you blind and the services/streets/education/etc will crumble to shit with drunks and trash filling up the many potholes.
@PeterMuskrat6968
@PeterMuskrat6968 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I couldn’t remember his actual name. But yeah, direct agent of the RF and responsible for the initial seizing of Government buildings and eventually the shoot down of MH17
@rinatozaur
@rinatozaur Жыл бұрын
FSB agent
@vvvolkeee
@vvvolkeee 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this topic. I noticed in a lot of videos one issue tho - the pronunciation of names and last names. Would it be possible, please, to look up proper pronunciation before filming? I understand the language barrier, etc, but sometimes it is really hard to understand who you are talking about. For example, Yanukovych - the last "ch" is pronounced like a "tsh" sound, the same as it sounds in Che Guevara
@DivineMisterAdVentures
@DivineMisterAdVentures Жыл бұрын
Great bit of history
@truckinconvoy7312
@truckinconvoy7312 Жыл бұрын
Tbh some of these modern conflicts deserve the "casual criminalist" treatment of getting 1-3 hour long videos
@paulmouton8870
@paulmouton8870 Жыл бұрын
Great summary and on point, obviously some details missed as example the EU agreement was not necessarily a problem, it was the conditions required which included NATO membership which was obviously a red line
@580player
@580player Жыл бұрын
Yeah leaving out the main part of the story leaves many that watch this video with the wrong understanding.
@netzoned
@netzoned Жыл бұрын
@@580player Videos like this prop, which some people swallow hook, line, and sinker, are what cause the wrong understanding.
@deniseg-hill1730
@deniseg-hill1730 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the US would feel if Russia had military bases in South American countries (remembering the Cuban missile crisis). They wouldn't like it all. Who has the most military bases in the world, the US. The biggest regime change warmongers.
@saaversteen
@saaversteen Жыл бұрын
if the pro russia guy won the election "fair and square" in 2010 which he clearly did then his democratic mandate should have been respected by those on the losing side. strangely no mention of "democracy prevailing once again" this time though. "this didn't necessarily represent the desire of the population of ukraine". "most of the public were outraged". out of a population of 44 million, "thousands" of those on the losing side "taking to the streets" to violently overthrow a democratically elected govt can in no way, shape or form be classed as "most of the public" being "outraged".
@watching99134
@watching99134 Жыл бұрын
@@netzoned Why don't you geniuses complete the story then
@jk4right
@jk4right Жыл бұрын
What exactly is on the wall behind your head?
@Okruh_Kolumbiya
@Okruh_Kolumbiya Жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir! Very well explained 🫡👍
@Megan-sf5vf
@Megan-sf5vf Жыл бұрын
Thank you for summarizing. I remember when it started, but I was in middle school, and the TV coverage was mostly about how it affected the US more than anything else. I remember the airplane being shot down. There were so many conspiracy theories about that.
@chriswood9836
@chriswood9836 Жыл бұрын
I used to watch all the stuff from Donetsk and luhansk and the interviews they did with the civilians there about all the sneaky things Ukraine was doing at the time but all that stuff is gone from yt now gotta push the sanitized Ukraine is winning garbage now
@jackfromthejungle7538
@jackfromthejungle7538 Жыл бұрын
Excellent overview of the whole build up to our current situation.. I remember watching a lot of videos in 2015 and 2016 about crimea, donetsk and the self proclaimed peoples republics etc and i was just so confused - i believe that period wasnt really covered in great depth at that time
@xeroscl
@xeroscl Жыл бұрын
And you are right, for some reason at some point western media choose to not cover what happened in western Ukraine. At the begining all media covered and suddenly they just keep silence. That's why I don't take any side.
@memorymeme51
@memorymeme51 Жыл бұрын
@@xeroscl what?
@uniformmike05
@uniformmike05 Жыл бұрын
@@xeroscl What? You don’t take sides between a country defending itself and an invader intent on committing genocide? What kind of a cowardly way out is that?
@havable
@havable Жыл бұрын
@@uniformmike05 Its like when Trump called Klanners "nice people"
@markhall6306
@markhall6306 Жыл бұрын
@@havable he never did you just believe everything the media tells you, maybe you should actually investigate what was actually said. How's those high gas prices with let's go Brandon FJB oh but you were offended by mean tweets make sure you are stocked in your fallout shelter once Brandon drags us into a nuclear war
@lijokjohn2001
@lijokjohn2001 Жыл бұрын
What about the ban on Russian language in Ukraine?
@eq1373
@eq1373 Жыл бұрын
What about it?
@free4492
@free4492 Жыл бұрын
He forgot to mention who ordered the sniper hits in meidan square? And the strange phone call of a certain PM in regards.
@keepcalmandenjoythedecline
@keepcalmandenjoythedecline Жыл бұрын
There was also a coup if i don't missremember, by victoria nuland. And they burned a bunch of minorities alive in a big government building...
@chriswood9836
@chriswood9836 Жыл бұрын
He forgot to add that it was Ukrainian political agents firing on the crowd in hopes to draw both sides into a crossfire
@David_____
@David_____ Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see the parallel between tge donetsk airport and azovstal defenders
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 Жыл бұрын
This reminds of what happened in the Czechslovakia during the Sudentenland Crisis.
@lordm.n.8186
@lordm.n.8186 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine has only nazi parties back in their parliament after Zelensky sign a low against other parties in them.
@ivettispaghetti8895
@ivettispaghetti8895 11 ай бұрын
I was a US soldier stationed in Germany 2012-15. We thought it was time for WW3 when this happened. We were ordered to sit on a Reagan Missile Silo in Turkey for 9 months.
@2dradon2
@2dradon2 Жыл бұрын
Too late now but at the time, referendums with international observers on Donetsk and Lushansk over autonomy may have been the best option. Now, who knows? Too many people have fled. This will be a long and costly war for everyone involved
@kazkaskazkas8689
@kazkaskazkas8689 Жыл бұрын
Minks agreements😂😂😂 It's Minsk agreements, named after the capital of Belarus where they were signed
@LLlap
@LLlap Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Yanukovik actually has a 'ch' instead of 'k' in his name, making him in fact a Yanukovich. Like dozen times you said his name incorrectly in the first minute. Obamer, Bidon, Cliton and Tramp.
@TheTuareg
@TheTuareg Жыл бұрын
They don't care about our names neither about our countries, brother!
@thePrahoable
@thePrahoable Жыл бұрын
So? Big deal. What's more important - a foreign person that could pronounce correctly as a native Ukrainian or the story behind the whole conflict that deserves a comment from your side? I also noticed the misspelling but disregarded it because the story was more interesting than his Ukrainian pronunciation skills.
@spechund7109
@spechund7109 Жыл бұрын
Vik or vich, he's still a b*tch ;)
@TheTuareg
@TheTuareg Жыл бұрын
@@thePrahoable That simply shows how poorly he prepared for this video. And second, what if people call you Mulanov as in mule?
@williamhawks2372
@williamhawks2372 8 ай бұрын
What are you Mr expert? About everyone
@thisall4real
@thisall4real Жыл бұрын
Good info.. Id also recommended Ukraine on fire by Oliver Stone and also john mearsheimer talk on Ukraine. Both on youtube
@andyyang3029
@andyyang3029 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I had heard about the annexation and the insurgency but had no clue that the scale of the fighting was so immense
@demitsuru
@demitsuru Жыл бұрын
there is no insurgency. russia infleunced. with it, there would be no conflict.
@XIXCentury
@XIXCentury Жыл бұрын
@@demitsuru incorrect, read 85 days in Slavyansk by Alexander Zuchovsky translated by Peter Nimitz
@medievalgames4782
@medievalgames4782 Жыл бұрын
@@XIXCentury I actually read this book. It is a great example why Ukraine had every moral right to launch the ATO and force this scumbags who came from Russia back to their hole. The author of the book is a Russian Ultra-Nationalist who beleives that Ukraine does not have the right to exist as a sovereign nation and Ukrainian culture and language should be therefore destroyed. Ukrainians should be forcefully made into Russians and even name "Ukraine" should be abandoned and the termin "Little Russia" should be used instead. This guy actually participated in the war in Donbass and he openly admits that without the Russian intervention the separatists would not be able to hold for longer in the August of 2014.
@Aothis
@Aothis Жыл бұрын
@@XIXCentury he is correct. Russia medled in Ukraine and now they have this stupid war. Wanna also argue why the Polish deserved to be invaded by Germany and Russia also? You are a joke.
@stvk99
@stvk99 Жыл бұрын
@@demitsuru bitch you can't just go into a conutry and start a civil war from 0. Russia influenced already existing tensions. Ukraine happily fueled it. war was planned by both sides.
@meganoob12
@meganoob12 Жыл бұрын
Good video Simon. It‘s good to see the events that led to the Russian war of agression in a single video, as some events like the orange revolution were completely unknown to me and others after 2014 were not really covered on the news anymore due to other hot topics like the refugee crisis in 2015. This also made it easier to understand the links between all those events that happened prior to 02/22
@davidsmith5094
@davidsmith5094 Жыл бұрын
What Simon didn't mention is that the United states CIA was the ones operating in Ukraine with tens of millions of American dollars financing those demonstrations... Which led to the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine.... Which automatically led to Russia annexing Crimea... Simon is deliberately leaning out some very important aspects which led to the Ukraine war... I believe simon is working for the CIA himself..
@meganoob12
@meganoob12 Жыл бұрын
@@davidsmith5094 evindence? … „trust me bro“ i guess Nice try
@pearlman39
@pearlman39 Жыл бұрын
Watch ukraine on fire...by Oliver stone
@otukucocker365
@otukucocker365 8 ай бұрын
How ? What's it going to do being "closer ties to eu" what exactly is going to happen ? And if Russia. What's going to happen?
@geothon
@geothon Жыл бұрын
What started it is that Russia sees the break up of USSR as loss of their territory. They do not accept the sovereignty of former Soviet republics.
@Kaiju-Driver
@Kaiju-Driver Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video cleared up a lot of information for me
@harolddekock9041
@harolddekock9041 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, my attempt at watching your video was short lived. Your voice is by far the most nauseating sound I ever had to listen to, and despite my best efforts, I had to press mute several times. Get someone else to do the videos please
@joaopeixoto5249
@joaopeixoto5249 Жыл бұрын
Not a word about Nato enlargement to Ukraine and US policy in the region since 1991, the things that truly matters.
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