2015 Ford Fusion 2.5L Crank No Start - What a day, Its Running after 2 mechanics Poor Customer

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Ford Boss Me

Ford Boss Me

3 жыл бұрын

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@wesleyshoup3936
@wesleyshoup3936 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to have a mechanic that actually goes above and beyond to fix the problem
@wolleysegap9740
@wolleysegap9740 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. When you have a mechanic that good WHO CARES, you don't give a damn about how nuch the bill is.
@ZackGoes
@ZackGoes 3 жыл бұрын
If I get hella rich one day, I want you as my personal mechanic 😂
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 3 жыл бұрын
If I hit the lotto big, I'd seed this man's shop and enjoy watching him grow. Rich deserves his own place.
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
I may be looking for some help in the future somebody already offered to invest last year and then again this year
@sierramclean1141
@sierramclean1141 2 жыл бұрын
Frfr
@Andreas_D-Greek
@Andreas_D-Greek 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I had an old BMW that 3 shops gave up on, ALL lights would randomly go dead. I broke out my diagrams and tester. The lighting system was spread out on 3 different fuses/circuits, so it seemed impossible for all 3 to randomly fail simultaneously. I pulled the fusebox apart and found a crack going down the middle of the entire circuit board. Repaired it with solder and jumpers. With patience and a brain, I was able to fix the car 3 shops gave up on in 2 hours. You gotta pat yourself on the back. lol
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think circuit boards could even be fixed
@Andreas_D-Greek
@Andreas_D-Greek 3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmartinez6600 Yah, just solder little jumper wires over the break.
@AeroVortex92
@AeroVortex92 3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmartinez6600 That depends. Fuse block circuit boards are pretty simple. They have large traces which are easy to follow and through hole components which are easy to solder. ECU boards have a lot of tiny components, multiple layers and tiny traces which may require special equipment to fix. If the board cracks, you’ll never be able to fix the traces on the inside layers
@jimmyvaught
@jimmyvaught 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmartinez6600 Rossman repairs is a great channel for circuit board repairs. Pretty interesting to see reflow, jumper wires, cleaning boards, etc.
@wolleysegap9740
@wolleysegap9740 3 жыл бұрын
My man went all Scanner Danner on that mother. Excellent pinpointing my friend. You win ! And so does that customer.
@joshonthetube
@joshonthetube 3 жыл бұрын
From the perspective of a customer, I really appreciate the extra effort you put into this. We don't generally get told how much of a struggle the techs went through to diagnose or repair an issue, but at least some of us really appreciate it.
@423tech
@423tech 3 жыл бұрын
God this was SO satisfying to watch. It's so refreshing to see someone with a genuine drive to see something through even when it is difficult. I also love troubleshooting electronics despite my knowledge being limited. Love it!
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
I lose myself on these jobs but I can't give up until I find what's going on
@TheGaginator
@TheGaginator Жыл бұрын
Awesome diagnostics man, This is my favorite thing to do in the shop. Advanced electrical diagnostics are my jam.
@jaybird57
@jaybird57 3 жыл бұрын
Lead free solder is great isn't it! Doesn't take the heat cycles very well... Thanks EPA! I do lots of component level board repairs like this.. TIPMs, Clusters, FCMs, HVAC controls... good catch.
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 3 жыл бұрын
A mechanic is someone with adequate skills to be able to turn wrenches and replace parts. Rich is a master technician who can solve problems.
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
Tyvm
@freddyhollingsworth5945
@freddyhollingsworth5945 3 жыл бұрын
Thousands of older(10+ year old- over 100,000 miles) vehicles are junked every year over hard to find stuff like this. Glad you figured it out!! Strong work!!
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a basic diagnosis. Anybody who knows anything about automotive electrical could pinpoint the problem in under an hour.
@thebaldmechanichardatheari1124
@thebaldmechanichardatheari1124 3 жыл бұрын
You are worth your weight in gold to that dealership. I had a garage at one time and you would be a great employee, hired you in a heartbeat. Good work.
@RJ_Cormac
@RJ_Cormac 3 жыл бұрын
This is the specific manufacturer training that makes a licensed Mechanic into a Technician!
@petersmith7140
@petersmith7140 3 жыл бұрын
oh the joy of all the electronics in vehicles.. when they work great its great.. when it fails its a BIG bill.
@CLOCKWERKJERKZ
@CLOCKWERKJERKZ 3 жыл бұрын
Now that’s thinking outside the box! Literally. Someday I want to be a master tech just like you, going above and beyond to get the job done right. Thank you for doing what you do! Bless you and those dedicated like you.
@robertdiehl9003
@robertdiehl9003 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job. Wow, you went above and beyond to actually find and pinpoint exact defect in circuit board. That's detail for sure..You performed like micro fine forensic examination with a microscope type repair. A quick touch of soldier with iron and that's should be permanent repair.. Much appreciate and much applause to your efforts and inquisitiveness.
@tradekingdistributing3586
@tradekingdistributing3586 3 жыл бұрын
Just had my friends TIPM from a 05 Caravan apart on Memorial Day weekend. Tore it down to the circuit board, like you did. He had no horn, power locks, and random flashing of the left turn signal. Got two of the three working again. Nice video!
@gregkollasch5494
@gregkollasch5494 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve run across a similar situation on an 03 super duty . The abs light was on. It had been to a different shop prior. I was getting power across the fuse sending one of several power sources to the abs control module , but no power at the module. Long story short, a fuse prong had been spread apart and was not sending power thru. Used a pic to close up the tabs and took care of the issue. Just discovered your channel a few days ago, lots of good tech tips in here. I like it. Keep it up 👍
@ericed69
@ericed69 3 жыл бұрын
One day a guy drives to our range and spends the day picking up spent shell casings. He gets into his Dodge truck to leave and "no start". I end up putting a jumper wire in the fuse box fuel pump fuse to power and it runs. I ended up finding out fuel pump relay was bad and Dodge soldered the fuel pump relay directly to the fuse box control board. "Stupid idea" and the little relay is totally under rated for the fuel pump, especially as the pump gets older and requires more amps to run. I upgraded that relay with a better one, rather than pay the high cost for a fuse box controller and the owner was happy to have his truck back. The owner became a good friend from that day. Sadly Richard (the owner) lost his battle with cancer over a year ago. Thank you for the video
@richard1835
@richard1835 3 жыл бұрын
Not a bad relay. That is the first time I have seen that type of damage on a circuit board on a relay pin. Great diagnostic work on your part.
@timzzz9963
@timzzz9963 3 жыл бұрын
I like your field stories quite a bit. Thanks.
@joeclarke9782
@joeclarke9782 3 жыл бұрын
Very fortunate to have a spare available. Good to find that tiny crack in the board but I might be a little uncomfortable thinking about the rest of that vehicle's electonic circuitry. Louis Rossmann has a good channel on Mac board repair that most mechs would not be interested in. Many of the faults he finds on boards are visible. Be blessed yourself.
@e-fraz8960
@e-fraz8960 3 жыл бұрын
Basic testing leads you to the problem. Once you know there's no fuel pressure, time to print out a diagram showing the fuel pump control circuit. From there basic power and ground testing will find the problem. Some folks get it and others dont. Takes more then just knowing how to change nuts and bolts to be a true technician/mechanic in modern times. I own a shop and have 20 plus years In the game. Never seems to amaze me how little people know when they come up against an electrical issue. Good help is hard to find . I would hire you any day. Good job figuring out the issue and taking care of the customer. God bless and take care. Also to test the junction block just check resistance between the power supply to the block and the power terminal on fuel pump relay or fuse whichever gets power first. If there is a break in the solder or board you won't have any continuity between the two and you know the fuse block is bad. Love the vids, great job!
@cessealbeach
@cessealbeach 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Luxury to have parts to try out! and dedication, I Love the fusion design, very popular in Europe
@powcar91
@powcar91 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your hard work, it will be a bit easier in the future. For the next owners and techs who run into this problem.
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 3 жыл бұрын
In a prior life as an electronic tech, repairing boards was my job. Our shop would go over all these solder joints on an exchange basis.
@danfarris135
@danfarris135 3 жыл бұрын
I work on Swiss CNC machines and encounter bad solder joints on boards quite often. That experience has transferred over to working on cars also. Most techs find a bad module or controller and just replace it. I have found by dissecting old ones that stressed solder connections are usually the primary fault. The reason is caused by heat and vibration which results in the joints failing. I have repaired many boards by cleaning the board. Removing the solder on the affected circuits. Cleaning the joints again and then refluxing and reapplying new solder.
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 3 жыл бұрын
@@danfarris135 I find the lead-free solder is utter crap, putting it lightly ;-)
@danfarris135
@danfarris135 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesplotkin4674 I understand it’s use for potable water applications, but the last time I checked not too many people are licking circuit boards. 😁
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 3 жыл бұрын
@@danfarris135 People lick poisonous frogs for a high, so I can't discount lead-licking ;-)
@delcorick9967
@delcorick9967 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, so that was a bad soldier joint connection,, if I could've found that thru basic fuse testing n verify pos n neg signal 2 the pump n had no pos signal, then I would've temporarily hardwired w fuse and maybe relay until the replacement fuse box was available,, customers is very lucky to have came 2 this dealership, awsome video!
@richard1835
@richard1835 3 жыл бұрын
Overtightened spark plugs will crack. Who knows maybe a defective spark plug. Today one of my vehicles was a 2008 Sonata 3.3L The customer bought a UAC compressor online. 3 months later it fails. The person who put it in did not service the system and charged it with air of course and sent him on his way he not knowing in another 3 months it will fail. Well $355.00 for a new one, and now I hope I can do a better job. Which I try my best to do. You are the first Technician/Auto Mechanic I can relate to. You are good at what you do and you should be proud of that. You are helping other mechanics to do there job better with a little knowledge to boot.
@Redridininyohood
@Redridininyohood 3 жыл бұрын
'Its always the little things.' The little things make my head explode some days haha. Just doing brake jobs with my sons has taught them. Most recently a stuck slider on a Avalanche ha! If you worked out here we would totally hire you!
@sharinmythoughts2510
@sharinmythoughts2510 8 ай бұрын
I wish that I can find a mechanic like you near me! Great job dude!! Love, how persisting you are❤❤❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 i’m in Ottawa county Michigan if you’re anywhere near me 💕
@masterjoe3000
@masterjoe3000 3 жыл бұрын
Good shit bro! Thanks for sharing ur experiences
@agoodneighborautorepair2176
@agoodneighborautorepair2176 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation, you give a nice extra mile. 👍
@madog1
@madog1 2 жыл бұрын
@ 7:43 - there are "cold solder joints" all over this PCB. The heavy terminals seem to work like a heat sinks, not allowing it to get hot enough to flow the solder. Also the amount of solder in general seems to be inadequate.
@kevinrendell9770
@kevinrendell9770 3 жыл бұрын
This is what we do a mechanic is like a detective i do auto elect in ny the pcb is crap i would use buss bar on the lands of the bord l think this dealer really misses you Great job you are a stand up guy kev nyc
@richardwarnock2789
@richardwarnock2789 3 жыл бұрын
Good Call Better replacing that probably get them a new key you did a good job!!!; )
@K-----
@K----- 3 жыл бұрын
If the problem is just the solder being cracked and not having a good enough connection I would imagine that you could just reflow it and be done within 30 seconds if it doesn't have any conformal coating or anything similar.
@unprofessionalmechanic8466
@unprofessionalmechanic8466 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I fix circuit boards for a living, I'd be done with that repair under a minute.
@Andreas_D-Greek
@Andreas_D-Greek 3 жыл бұрын
You can't have call backs working at a dealer. You fix it right the first time. If 1 solder joint is bad there will probably be other joints that will fail.
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they won't let me do that They want it replaced
@K-----
@K----- 3 жыл бұрын
@@Andreas_D-Greek I don't solder for a living but as far as I know they shouldn't unless there is something really wrong with the solder they used or the climate they are in. Especially with just one going out it could have been a small isolated problem. I do agree though that getting a new one is the best call as if you can't be 100% sure that it is the problem or if it truly is isolated.
@Andreas_D-Greek
@Andreas_D-Greek 3 жыл бұрын
@@K----- Yes it's usually a problem from the factory. 90's 5 series bmw's had a issue cause they used cold solder joints on the headlight modules. You would repair the bad joint and a few months later another joint would crack. Turned out to be bad soldering jobs on ALL the modules. They had to update their soldering technic in the later years.
@oemytech
@oemytech 3 жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic work. Most techs forget the basics. You need fuel, compression & spark. A good wiring diagram doesn't hurt either. Me I just might try to fix the solder joint just for grins.
@TofuInc
@TofuInc 3 жыл бұрын
I would as well. A little leaded solder on that joint and it would be good to go.
@invisiblekid7374
@invisiblekid7374 3 жыл бұрын
Oemytech: I definitely would. I took an IPC class at a previous job. We made the circuit boards that went into the Bosch DEF sensors and other automotive sensors. Probably a cold solder joint from the get go! that would be right up my alley!!
@warrenself
@warrenself 3 жыл бұрын
You make electrical stuff look easy.
@CYMUSIC7773
@CYMUSIC7773 Жыл бұрын
Good job man! I like the fact you didn't charge the customer again That's what's up!
@christiebussey1285
@christiebussey1285 3 жыл бұрын
I once owned a 2010 Ford Fusion which cut off on me one day in 2014 while turning at a busy intersection, luckily I was able to turn into a small strip Mall's parking lot before the tires stopped rotating. After I got started again, I went down the street and around the next corner to the dealership and traded it. But I think a recall was released to include that model for that repair after that incident happened.
@Eagleoneradiogod
@Eagleoneradiogod 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue on my 90 lincoln. It had a broken wire from the fuel pump relay. So I just repaired it with speaker wire and a 10 amp fuse. And it has been running g ever sence.
@dtteamofficial
@dtteamofficial 3 жыл бұрын
I am a mech. myself u my friend have taught me something new .thankyou very much, would lòve to have as a son
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
Sad part is I've never even really had a father in my life, I've had father like figures but never a father
@unorthodoxridez
@unorthodoxridez 3 жыл бұрын
Thorough is good. Keep it up man
@chuckdarwin6887
@chuckdarwin6887 3 жыл бұрын
Cold solder on a power pin, nice catch.
@randallmunson9909
@randallmunson9909 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that Italian wiring.
@mnwolves180
@mnwolves180 3 жыл бұрын
You should get your own shop and become The Car Wizard 2.0😁
@yyz125
@yyz125 Жыл бұрын
Awesome diagnostics
@greasyhandsauto-shaunbutte9726
@greasyhandsauto-shaunbutte9726 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job, way to stick with it.
@rt0110
@rt0110 3 жыл бұрын
I've had those were the relay prongs break off inside the fuse box and it's a tough catch.
@robertstam5852
@robertstam5852 2 жыл бұрын
Helped me figure out why my daughter's 2016 Ford Fusion quit running. Bad fuel pump. Thanks!
@rogerwinslow4034
@rogerwinslow4034 3 жыл бұрын
my 2 cents from a ASE master tech in cars and trucks and fire truck certs . start with the basic's first , Ck spark at ignition coils ( who gives a crap about the spark plug condition at this point , then ck fuel at the rail . = do you have fuel and fire ? from there its easy to diag . my 2 cents only . I like your video's , keep up the good work man !
@TofuInc
@TofuInc 3 жыл бұрын
Once you've narrowed down that the fuel system does in fact function but the ECM/PCM does hot have control over the fuel pump relay your 90% there. You're left with A) the driver in the ECM/PCM or B) Wiring/connections between the ECM/PCM and the relay. I'm not sure what a lot of these mechanics are going to do that can't troubleshoot basic electrical issues. With all the hybrid / electric vehicles coming onto the market I guess they will just be relegated to parts changers... On another note those those Power Probes are handy by far the best tool to have in that situation.
@yoyo762
@yoyo762 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Some of the diagnostic trees are over reach. An older retired mechanic once told me his diagnostic technique. You need fuel, air, compression and spark at the right time. Which one is missing. He simplified it down to the basics. The ether spray is a great diagnostic tool. It runs with that, you know its a fuel issue.
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no diagnostic tree needed for that fuel pump diagnosis. The little picture on the full pump relay is key in this videos diagnosis.
@robertkeefer1552
@robertkeefer1552 3 жыл бұрын
It's like working on amplifier circuit boards. A bad solder joint will cause problems over time from heat, vibration and questionable solder applied during manufacturing. I would imagine a simple reflow on the joint would get it working again if you wanted to go that route.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 3 жыл бұрын
Ever try to reflow a Shark processor with only a few hundred pins on it?
@TheMotorick
@TheMotorick 3 жыл бұрын
I'm old school. Damn all these electronics in cars today.
@dannyscatpack9947
@dannyscatpack9947 3 жыл бұрын
I was doing a blower motor on a transit connect and forgot to fully latch down one of the connectors 😂 that was a fun day
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
Uffffff
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes they just don't want to click. You really have to feel for that click as you insert them and give the connector a tug when done. Occasionally a little squirt of silicone spray on the rubber part of the water tight connector gives it enough slip to positively engage.
@floydwilliams3321
@floydwilliams3321 2 жыл бұрын
💪 really isn’t any worse thing then being given the runaround by mechanics There are honest people that work on vehicles but they’re few and far between
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get into the bashing mechanics talk I'm sorry If you need my help with anything I'm here
@f1620mm
@f1620mm 3 жыл бұрын
Way Outside the box! Nice find,
@richard1835
@richard1835 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Ford Fusions. Nice cars. Well styled body and nice interior lighting. Bad relay. I use switched relays that send current directly to the component being powered. That was a nice outcome for the customer.
@davidtennien39
@davidtennien39 3 жыл бұрын
Great job!!!
@SALEEN961
@SALEEN961 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2010 Escape come in crank no start, 12v at the FPDM but it wouldn't light a test light. I checked at the fuse box and at the fuse it will light a test light, but it won't light at the relay pin. I opened up the fuse box and found a bad crimp on the relay pin where all but one strand of wire had wiggled loose over time. I fixed the crimp and car fired right up. The car was only a few thousand miles out of warranty.
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 жыл бұрын
I had similar on a transfer case motor. Checked for power and ground at the motor with a 200ma test light that lit. Turns out the wire was corroded in 1 spot by the fuse block, it would let 200ma through but not enough amperage to power the motor. I used a tone generator to follow the wire harness from the motor to the fuse block, got a visual on the green crusty wire.
@williamGSXR110
@williamGSXR110 3 жыл бұрын
Very lucky to have a known good.
@AlanMedina314
@AlanMedina314 3 жыл бұрын
I had a clogged fuel filter burning out the fuel pump relay on 2 separate cases. Till I told my mechanic to replace the fuel filter and the expedition has never had that issue again. Hate the fact that the relay is solderd on instead of just plug and play. I wonder if the costumers fuse box the contacts were damaged due to mechanical vibrations or heating and cooling.
@tbohtwentyone
@tbohtwentyone 3 жыл бұрын
Good catch.
@cruiser1398
@cruiser1398 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content and great diagnostic skills. Are you allowed to fix the component ( repair cold solder joint) or is it required that only replacement can suffice? I figure dealership has set guidelines for repairs like this as opposed to independent shops although, liability if repair didn't hold up and couldn't be warranted might be similar?
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
No replace
@dunntanktrucks
@dunntanktrucks 3 жыл бұрын
Gm modules aren't soldered any more at the connector terminals. Just push the board down on the pins and they hope that's a good connection. Some terminals are built with spring lock so it has extra surface area on the board. Still pushing too many amps through a .64 connector. Still... Did the dog chew that board too?
@porfiriocastillo4065
@porfiriocastillo4065 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that is not a common problem on Ford's had 2015 Ford police utility with a similar problem. Took fuse box off and had a burnt pin on the connector, had to replace whole fuse box and harness that was a fun job.
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 жыл бұрын
The rear fuel pump driver module likes to go caput on them. Its above the passenger rear seat in the pillar. Chrysler products do that as well. The fuel pump relay is built into the IPCM and burns up. You have to replace the entire fuse block
@JimmyMakingitwork
@JimmyMakingitwork 3 жыл бұрын
Must have a pin connection issue on the relay activation circuit, or feed, since jumping the relay output still uses the fuse box to power the pump control module? It’s very unusual to have connection issues on low load circuits, but i’ve seen it a lot more lately. Manufacturers are pushing the fuses, relays and circuits tinier and tinier every year. Weighs less, costs them less. Lots of cooked A/C and Fuel Pump relay connections. Many sell by pass kits, since their crap fuse boxes are back ordered.
@met454
@met454 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome sleuthing!
@jamesrichardson559
@jamesrichardson559 3 жыл бұрын
My guess would have been the inertia switch. Years ago my son would stretch his feet out up under the dash and activate the inertia switch that would shut off the fuel pump. Just have to reset it. Same symptom, everything worked but the fuel pump.
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
What vehicle
@jamesrichardson559
@jamesrichardson559 3 жыл бұрын
@@FordBossMe 2001 ford Explorer. This was back in 2004 and again in 2010. I am not a mechanic. We were driving and my son was in the passenger seat and all of a sudden the engine died. It would not start so I called my wife and we pulled the Explorer back home. I noticed the fuel pump would not make a sound when I turned the ignition on. I assumed it was a bad fuel pump so I droped the tank (very easy). Removed the fuel pump and hooked 12 volts to the pump and it ran fine. I was looking at the manual and noticed a inertia switch was under the passenger dash next to the right side. If I remember correctly it had a red plunge button on top that was out. I depressed it and it set. Reinstalled the fuel pump and tank and it started just fine. In about 2010 the same thing happened again but this time I knew what it was. That Explorer was a great vehicle.
@luvr381
@luvr381 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrichardson559 Rangers had the same switch.
@paulnirschl6500
@paulnirschl6500 3 жыл бұрын
Been there with the shit Chrysler TIPMs
@dwaynestimpson5449
@dwaynestimpson5449 3 жыл бұрын
Looking for a Ford master tech in Florida as good as Rich. I hate every tech I have tried for business and personal vehicles all they do is shoot a parts cannon at it. Must be as good as Rich, can’t be better, he’s the best, but I will take someone close!! One of my work vans cost $2400 in oil pump and sending unit….it was the fin gauge! $75.00 was the fix!
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brother
@cambellamy
@cambellamy 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel! Im running into some issues with my 2017 F-150, I am getting p06e9 code Engine starter performance. Crank but no start
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 2 жыл бұрын
The starter itself could be or the fuel pump or fuel pump fuse or relay or the connections at the trans control module on the outside of the passenger side frame - connection there will cause a crank no start Spray starting flying in the airfilter inlet and see if it starts and if so your problem is fuel related
@cambellamy
@cambellamy 2 жыл бұрын
@@FordBossMe I have replaced the battery,starter and the alternator. I can hear the fuel pump prime until it reaches its pressure then it cuts off. I’m going to check out the trans control module when I get off of work today. On Ford scan I can run the pre test for the PCM and that code pops up before I even try and crank the truck. I appreciate the response buddy
@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387
@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 3 жыл бұрын
No start after the dog chewed on the key? I'm wondering if it had a security/programming error due to the dog and the previous mechanics might have cracked that circuit board while testing for the no start? I know some of them are kind of difficult to pull out, I've never broke one but I suppose it's possible.
@davemarques9601
@davemarques9601 3 жыл бұрын
Cracked solder joints can cause this kinda problem....I had the same thing in 98 Accord....had to resolder several points on the board....but that car was 15 yrs old and had 300k miles on it....
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 3 жыл бұрын
A dry joint. That is an easy fix. Just take a soldering iron to it to that solder till it becomes liquid and that is it, you're just reflowing that one thing. Assuming that is all that it is.
@tradekingdistributing3586
@tradekingdistributing3586 3 жыл бұрын
At a dealership, they would want the part replaced I would assume.
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 3 жыл бұрын
@@tradekingdistributing3586 this is true, but some times dealerships can do repairs. As long as it is done correctly, but I doubt ford have a TSB or service manual instructions on reflowing dry joints.
@rickwest2818
@rickwest2818 3 жыл бұрын
You recommended a 2010-2012 fusion with a 2.5L for my daughter. Is the 3.5L sport version any good? The only reason I ask is the 2.5L has electric power steering and the 3.5L has hydraulic.
@georgemartin1436
@georgemartin1436 3 жыл бұрын
OH GOD I hated "previous service attempts" because you usually have no clue what the previous guy did! I preferred to be the FIRST...
@sixpointtwosingfeld489
@sixpointtwosingfeld489 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@_huh_
@_huh_ 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to commend your transparency in being an automotive tech. These days it has become very challenging to stay current, and on top. With the added complexity, it takes a different type of individual to troubleshoot the added bullshit you have to deal with. :) Not being specific to this video, but in general.. - CanBus, Multiplexing, sure that is great. But when a customer is full of shit and says something is not working when he/she unplugged something or fucked something up because they didn't understand how the system operates, really should be a key point in why people should PAY UP to their mistakes and RESPECT the tech.
@niteninja0133
@niteninja0133 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how you deal with trailer wiring issues on trucks? I know its stupid but we get a cpl customers complaining about the trailer wiring not working and swear it's the truck but then don't bring in the trailer to see it happen
@jimcosgrove292
@jimcosgrove292 3 жыл бұрын
Job well done
@tremblingone4269
@tremblingone4269 3 жыл бұрын
Eric O. at South Main Auto would be proud.
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
Tyvm
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 3 жыл бұрын
And Ivan would have re soldered it.
@tradekingdistributing3586
@tradekingdistributing3586 3 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind Maybe Rich can re-solder it and keep the board as a "test" spare for future vehicles that come in with hard-to-find electrical issues.
@jeffreysmall5259
@jeffreysmall5259 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I seen stuff like that,good job electronics pin broad cracked..
@lp2565
@lp2565 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive.
@barbmelle3136
@barbmelle3136 3 жыл бұрын
From Leo: I repair guitar amplifiers. Broken or burned traces and broken solder joints are common on the printed circuit boards. It is a shame that auto manufacturers are now using the same weak designs on a car. Out in the weather extremes and subject to high vibration and flexing the design is just not durable..
@niyablake
@niyablake 3 жыл бұрын
As a computer tech some times, the worst issues is going behind some other tech and trying to figure out what they did
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
That was my biggest issue here because I don't know where people were going or where they left off so I had to start over fresh
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
Which is probably better anyway but normally this doesn't happen on this vehicle normally it's just a fuel pump driver module but whenever that module is not getting its main source of power you obviously have found probably the main issue and there was no other issue after that so even though it took me a little bit longer at least I found the issue and will be fixed now
@mysterysolver514
@mysterysolver514 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you could diagnose my 2020 f150, that thing is messed up but sometimes its great
@georgemartin1436
@georgemartin1436 3 жыл бұрын
That's a "COLD SOLDER JOINT"....a manufacturing error....you could resolder the PCB and it would be good to go...if the time would be worth it. You started in the middle...that's the way to do it...cut the issue in half with each test...
@richard1835
@richard1835 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Good Information. Thank you
@jeffholliday9205
@jeffholliday9205 2 жыл бұрын
I had a problem similar to this but on a gmc envoy 5.3 customer would drive 30 40 mins then die wouldn't start till cooled down found problem in fuse box separated it small copper wires running through from fuse to fuse had a break in it, once engine compartment heated up wire would shrink and disconnect it was a fighter !
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 2 жыл бұрын
Great find
@PecanPie1102
@PecanPie1102 3 жыл бұрын
What was the actual charge in Labor hours and parts. Did you reflow the solder (like Ivan (pine hallow)) all points or New box?
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
It's going to get a new box they don't want us doing electrical repairs like this here
@Mtech30961
@Mtech30961 3 жыл бұрын
What UTI campus did you go to?
@sheamileto598
@sheamileto598 3 жыл бұрын
Ford Boss Me Please to a video on this very van when it comes into your shop.
@unprofessionalmechanic8466
@unprofessionalmechanic8466 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Aaaaaaa!!!! I fix circuit boards for a living, thats like under 1 min repair. Send it to me, I'll fix that 1-2-3.
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 жыл бұрын
Dealer doesn't make money flowing a solder joint. They sell the entire box with install.
@valsrebuilds
@valsrebuilds 3 жыл бұрын
older hondas have similar problem with main relay
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 3 жыл бұрын
I think everybody reflows those. Another problem they had was the grease they used in their prndl switches and ignition switches solidifies and causes all kinds of flakey stuff to happen.
@jamesstout6006
@jamesstout6006 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we have switch from technicians back to machanics
@richard1835
@richard1835 3 жыл бұрын
Take Care
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
Tyvm you to
@factionfx
@factionfx 3 жыл бұрын
Are these fusions garbage? My friend had one, same generation. Wouldn't crank half the time. Low miles. He ended up trading it in. His also had several transmission recalls/breakages within the 30k miles that he had it.
@michaelburton
@michaelburton 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great job ! You remember about how many miles that car has ?
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, did you even watch the video? At 6:23, you can see the instrument panel before our man fires up the engine. ODO is 72,341 miles.
@michaelburton
@michaelburton 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesplotkin4674 yup. Was making breakfast while I watched though. Thanks
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelburton Well, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, so that almost let's you off the hook, fella! ;-)
@RJ_Cormac
@RJ_Cormac 3 жыл бұрын
You should be good at this Rich! Ford was dumb enough to mount those FPDM on the F-Series frame rail for road salt to ruin regularly. I would guess half of all F-Series owners will need a new FPDM in their ownership some day. How many have you changed on trucks?
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 3 жыл бұрын
They moved me away from trucks a few years ago so I've lost a lot of touch with some of that stuff I've been doing more just regular F-150 and SUVs and Passenger cars but I may have to pick up the diesel work at our shop because the guy is leaving and then I'll be back on the trucks
@RJ_Cormac
@RJ_Cormac 3 жыл бұрын
@@FordBossMe it's an easy job to explain to customers, after removing it from the frame. The aluminum rotted away on the bottom, some would fall apart on removal. Not sure where Ford is mounting them now, but that was stupid. Especially with the steel frame rails, dissimilar metals made it rot faster. Good luck going back to trucks, lots of differed maintenance and overworked trucks. You already experienced that F150 with the choppy tires. It gets worse. 😒🙄😥
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