Constantine Most laptops mounting the high-powered quad-core cpus usually top at 90-99 degrees when under load (these are internal temperatures of the hardware, not external temperatures of the casing), though I had never heard of any going beyond 100, as I believe that's the maximum temperature indicated by the manufacturer.

I had a problem with my old laptop where the fan stopped working and the CPU just shuts down at 99C as to not fry it self. 103C is still unheard of. also the bottom casing is made out of aluminum so even if it's not the temperature of the exterior it will still be unbearable to put this thing on your lap at that kind of load which defeats the purpose of it being a 'lap'top.

I saw that and thought 103?. That's nothing, then I saw the C word.

Correct, Antonio!

It gets uncomfortably hot to have on your lap when rendering in Premiere or After Effects.

Matthew Kosloski me too hahahahah

same hahaha

this macbook knows that it should have a touch screen

+Rosa Murphy fuck off nobody wants to see you

Matthew Kosloski

that line aged like fine milk out in the sun lol

*Glances over at 2016 MacBook pro that's missing several keys from simply typing* - yep.

Came to the comment section just for this.

+Andrew Micallef rip

Snazzy Labs Can I just say I feel happy that you replied! Here's hoping Apple fixes things a little in upcoming years

@@andrewrobotbuilder MacBook Pro 16 inch 2021: Hold my beer.

what do you expect when you have a gay at the top?

not funny not funny ..

+ed tyler what's wrong with that???

bac302 exactly

Nando Gil the wrong thing is that the MacBooks have only one hole and everything goes there. Seems like Tim Cook wants it all in one hole

AppleIsTheBest I have a 2010 one, which is about to die on me ... But this just wasn't what I was looking for.

Now go change your display name.

2012 MBP is one of the best (if not the best) ever MacBook... I have mine (Mid-2012) with an FuryX SSD and 1TB Disk (replaced the superdrive with a caddy), 16GB of RAM (apple says you can only have 8GBs for some reason) and i used it everyday with design programs and it works flawlessly... GPU is getting old tho

Upgrade to the 2015 model. That's what I've done and I love it. I got the fully specced out 15 inch model so it's actually more powerful than comparably priced new MacBook pros. And I love my glowing Apple logo :D

I am flogging my 2015 MacBook Pro. I'm having a much better experience on the Surface Book. In 18 months, I have gone from 100% Apple to 100% Microsoft. Apple IMO has lost the plot.

Joshua Zaris 10months later... yes

1 year later and the industry still hasn’t switched to USB C. Apple made a laptop for 2040 and double the price to get inconvenienced. I’m buying a 2015 for this very reason. I need an HDMI, I need USB 3, I don’t own anything USB C. Even their own new iPhones Tennis and Tennis Max still come with USB-B cables 🙄

Been a few months and im fine.

Richard That’s not USB-B that’s Lightning Cable. But that may be Sarcasm.

An Aavash he means that the lightning connector connects to the brick with usb type b

I'm glad they did. I think it was a bit childish. It's similar to pimping your car with neon lights in the bottom.

I like neon lights on the car

Yes, of course it's just my opinion. But Apple is trying to be a stylish brand and glowing logo, which is really bright in the dark is the opposite of stylish in my opinion.

Agreed +Mikko, imo it looked suuuper lame. Just an unnecessary gimmick that doesn't do anything

Why on earth do people care so much about the light up logo? I understand the importance of aesthetics, but the logo does not make any difference to the person using the computer. They can't see the thing when using it!

Even mac users.

2016 is an awesome year.. Welcome to the Trump Era !

Patriot Trump Trump era? Trump era my ass

Patriot Trump The Donald isn't president until 2017, get over it

lsmeteor You can't stop me from celebrating the epic win! Trump is your President-Elect

Their phones have been really solid though.

Emir Tulumcu I picked up an iPhone St the display in the electronics store, tried to get round it for 3 minutes and then I decided that android is way more intuitive. Admittedly, I have been using android forever, but still.

Solid, more not innovative. They lost that a while ago.

I tried to switch to the flagship Galaxy. I went back to Iphone. The reason is that Android, while you it is more customizable, it can be jerky. It just seems quirky at times, especially when switching to phone and back to apps. Apple seems more reliable, more solid, works when I need it. It also integrates with the macbook. That's why I like Apple, their stuff just works.

Emir Tulumcu No they haven't, they've been bendable since the iPhone 6 and didn't fix the issue until the iPhone X, which in turn gets easily scraped. They've been easily breakable and iOS 11 is getting buggier and buggier. Plus Siri is absolute shit. Android has better multitasking, a better file system, and has a digital home button not requiring gestures. And phones running them have been totally outshining the iPhone 8 and X (even without the A11 Chip they perform pretty close to it in real time).

I was about to write a reply bashing your understanding of engineering. Until i got to the end. ROFL! Thats a great use for this!

Like ma grandma said don't judge the book by it's cover... don't judge the new macbook pro 2016 without using it "PROPERLY"

Jerald Guevarra you mister are a genius.

Jerald Guevarra Any tracking issues?

The trackpad on the 2016 MBP is large enough to be a mouse pad. You should try using your mouse on the track pad. Provides excellent glide ability.

Oh yes, I'm very clearly being paid by Apple to explicitly say not to buy the laptop and it's not a good value. You caught me.

Then why do you say "it's good keyboard", "powerful cpu" and other kind of nonsense when using it one can see how bad everything is!! the only good thing is the touch from the oversized trackpad... and when you can buy a laptop with 3X performance for less money... calling those games playable at 30-40fps on a 1600 bucks laptop is an insult for gaming!!

Raimar Lunardi I specifically called them unplayable. You need to rewatch the video. At no point do I recommend or justify the computer's price point.

9:56 you say that "cpu intensive games should do well because cpu is powerful" ...sigh... then show cities skyline at worse framerate than Gifs... at least then you say it's unplayable... at 10:26 you say exactly that Doom is playable at ~40fps

Raimar Lunardi I don't know what you're getting at other than proving my point. I say that Cities: Skylines is unplayable in the video. It is. Which you confirm in your argument. DOOM runs at 47fps. By definition, most would agree anything over 30fps is playable. IT ISN'T GOOD. But it's playable. Which I also say in the video. So, yeah. Thanks for agreeing with me.

joe john And it gets worse because you'll need to buy fucking dongles

Alexei Delgado dont forget the dongle bag or should it call dongle back pack now since you will need bunch of dongles with this 2016 mbp?

/////Reminder that the $4,300 version everyone's complaining about is because of the $1,400 upgrade to a 2 TB 3.1gb/s read -and 2.2gb/s which isn't going to be cheap in a laptop. Get the 256gb option and save yourself lots of money and get a 1tb USB C external SSD :^)

External anything is not reliable at all

joe john you can get a full Gaming PC with that Price tag. A powerful one...

R&D really should do polls - I think most people agree with you. Meanwhile, manufacturers still think we want Laptops so thin you can bend with your bare hands.

its a woman's world now..

thanks feminism

So you think women want smaller battery sizes and men don't? why???

because everything has to be cute, small, and thin to make girls happy these days. even small dicks. they like weak ass girly dudes now with small dicks and cant handle a real manly man anymore. feminism 2016 for u. idk what 2017 will bring. probably more shit. i hope trump fixes this.

Stefan Andreasson haha, Yes one might as well make good use of the heat :D

Ahmed Tha King nah, I got a tiny dog, so when he gets on my lap, I've effectively bought a $4000 dog heater...

Winter is coming, imagine the convenience!

no dongle needed

Magical.

AsianLovePotato Haha so true

AsianLovePotato fr make my eggs and surf the web on this!

AsianLovePotato even my old laptop runs at a lower temperature: 83 :/

that can actually boil fucking water

My 2005 laptop runs at 40-35. Applied to burn marks.

Agreed. It's merely "good."

Absolute trainwreck

Lol good choice or seems like😄

Lewis Johnson you realize its almost 2017 right?

Jacob Lane...you realize that at these prices a laptop should be viable for a decade or more right?

G Henrickson aha you're right, but they're already way out if date.

My late-2007 17" MBP was destroyed recently. For a replacement that meets my needs, I'm having to go back to the Unibody series (2009-2011) to even have a chance. The only alternative would be to turn a modern PC laptop into a Hackintosh - which is *hard* and still requires a working Mac of some kind as a starting point.

I love the anorexia thing. yeah it's similiar.

Actually they made it. All the parts are replaceable... All at once :)) he is just performing a user replacement.

lol. fair.

I also disagree with you that Macs never had decent gaming GPU options. Between 2006 and 2013 they offered some of the best mobile GPUs in their laptops. Not a desktop version, but usually one of the best mobile ones.

What about Razorrrrrrr, they make laptops that more powerful than MacBooks and are cheaper, for example, the new Razor Blade has a GTX 1060 in a chassis the thickness of a dime

Completely agree on everything, but you missed one major complaint - the software experience. For the last several years it has been degrading steadily almost unnoticeably (if you use macs every day). The last completely stable version of mac OS that "just works" was snow leopard. Several years ago it was unthinkable for a mac to crash if you weren't using bad wraps or something of the sort and nowadays I have to restart my computer every day / couple of days depending on the OS version. It's pathetic and it's only getting worse! Been a mac user since 2007, was very hesitant about buying my 2014 top of the line MBP, but I decided to give Apple one last chance. I don't regret the purchase, but a week after buying I promised myself that this is the last apple computer that I'm buying ever (or at least until Tim Cook gets replaced with someone who cares less about profit margins and more about quality and user satisfaction).

So true!!!! I've been with Macs since 1991 and they are rubbish now. I only use snow leopard on my 2012 Mini.

Molly Cutpurse the last good OS version on the last good mac mini. Nice!

Zhulfiqhar Yhaqub

Zhulfiqhar Yhaqub you were gonna get your nieces/nephews a $2500 (minimum) laptop? can you be my uncle?

Zhulfiqhar Yhaqub uncle ！I'm here

Zhulfiqhar Yhaqub Get them a macbook instead and tell them if they want a pro, get a job!

Zhulfiqhar Yhaqub get a surface pro

only use voice to text

and this will be defended as "innovation".

Apple will replace the common QWERTY keyboard layout with their own called APPLE. You will now have to know where each key is placed. Apple will also get rid of the delete/enter key because it's so old. Yes that is something Apple would do.

MidNiteR32 778

Yeah Lenovo already tried that with the Yoga Book, it's not the worst thing, but it's different.

Artem Zakharchenko I wanna pray every night to have a thinner Macbook - says no one ever...

Bramy Bian Exactly. This phenomenon got beyond its usefulness and became just stupid.

Shibby you are the 1%.

Artem Zakharchenko I like the thinness

Next year they are going to remove the battery.

Its the trend they made so they have to make it thinner every year

WAFFENOPS And that's stupid!

Seth D. Meyers Yep :(

Bruh you sound like a Donald Trump tweet

I disagree. The previous MacBook Pro is uncomfortably thick for wrists. The MacBook Air is great form factor. The new MacBook Pro is ok form factor. They shouldn't have exaggerated the battery life though.

not only the music. 7:52 All of touchbar buttons jumping to the main display, that's the funniest bug ever xD

That music also came up when he was returning it! haha

MrClassicDoctorWho I know it’s a bit late but what osx are you running? You

Pixelsandwich the laptop OP has is around $4000 with tax

If someone is in the market for a laptop I doubt they'd want to build a PC. Although I do agree $2400 for a laptop is ridiculous.

you can also make coffee for cheaper than you buy it at Starbucks and yet here we are...

for me it's more about the ergonomics and build quality than the performance.

Pixelsandwich you people will always fail to understand some people JUST LIKE THE AMAZING BUILD QUALITY AND SOFTWARE

yea

Intel's maximum recommended operating temperature for Skylake quad-core mobile CPUs is 100 deg C. So yes, it's certainly far too hot, and Apple really needs to fix the fan curve, but it's not so hot the CPU will fry. I agree, though. Unacceptable.

100 C is boiling temperature, not sure how a CPU can survive that!

Snazzy Labs Building a laptop with a CPU that can reach those temperatures is basically like building a suicide-prone device. Factor that in with the exploding speakers, and...

Nahum the Mayhem A CPU with no cooler can reach those temperatures fairly quickly. If you hunt around you can find a video of someone frying a small piece of pork on a CPU with no cooler attached. He then eats it.

wow! no kidding eh?, i gotta see this guy frying a piece of pork on a CPU LOL

We never asked for the iMac or the iPod. They just made them. I get what they're trying to do to... but ever since Jobs died this company has been in a downward sprial... even if they keep growing in profits

Is this meant to be sarcastic? Text doesn't translate sarcasm well. If so then ignore this, if not then that makes no sense because the required dongles (not only cost way too much from apple considering they are almost necessary to use the damn thing) add way more cables to the process.

Wizzy Watkins bluetooth itself is a flawed system however. Anyone who uses even the highest quality of bluetooth headphones knows there will at some point be minor data loss. In terms of storage that loss is unacceptable. Not only this but a lot of people (myself included) wouldn't dream of using wireless peripherals due to latency. EVEN MORE, disks and SD cards are wireless, so why where they removed? Sure disks are going out of fashion but having that drive is still useful and I wouldn't buy a laptop without one. They aren't rationalising their decisions with the market, instead they're making dumb changes and hurting their own profits, thats why they have to increase the laptop cost every year

Wizzy Watkins well that's completely useless then, what point is there to having a separate SD card slot when you have to be at the laptop to use it? The whole point of laptops is to be all in one machines so you dont need accessories for it to have its basic functions (for a professional grade laptop an SD card slot is basic) so having everything seperately is a counterproductive bs move to make more money. I have wireless storage in the cloud, I still have to be at my device to use the files.

Dissapear sideways XD

Not Interested psst....applefanboys everywhere...

Buy an Psbox one instead.

haha

At least it fries itself :)

+Josh H. Thanks for watching, Josh!

I agree. But I haven't actually seen too many rants about it. A lot more people gushing about it than rants.

Yup, he only did it for 12 minutes and 46 seconds...

Which took them 1½ year lol.. They are just getting greedy

nice avi, nice music.

I didn't even consider it until it was mentioned here. That's gotta be the most inconvenient upgrade made in the name of looking cool I've seen yet. And even more so considering so many people, myself included, are so dependent on keystrokes.

Andy Moran Yeah, looking down where your function guys normally are does seem inconvenient. How do you feel about this bloody keyboard?? I did a typing test in notepad, and I was surprised that my hit rate was high. Still, the keyboard felt and sounded broken. Cheap. Had to wonder why they didn't just move to an all glass OLED keyboard with haptic feedback. Hahaha. Seriously, I like the feel of the tiny Surface 4 and Samsung Book 9 Pro keyboards more. Wish I knew I how to make them into a reliable Hackintosh. In fact, perhaps this is the first gen of MBPs that'll cause me to look deeply and seriously into the Hackintosh route. At least until they refine the new MBP a bit. Personally, I hate dongles and, although it's not as common these days, I write a lot. Those two pain points need to be soothed for me, although I'm sure almost everyone would like less dongles. I also need 32gb, but it turns out that's an Intel chipset issue.

+randomizednamme Interesting concept. Execution is lacking polish.

Snazzy Labs I think the idea of a huge trackpad or the idea of owning a 2016 MacBook Pro would have been great if it was compatible with the Apple Pencil especially if it's aimed at a creative audience. At least then it would make better sense to have a huge trackpad

Might as well.

No, he's returning it because he never had any intention of keeping it. He was dishonestly purchasing a product from a store for the purpose of making a review video for his KZfaq channel.

If he linked it, he would have kept it.

and thanks to him now we know its not worth the price

Kamran Kazemi-Far Or a top-end Lenovo ThinkPad.

Kamran Kazemi-Far wait for one that has the pascal GPU, either way the GPU is still better than apples top!

Kamran Kazemi-Far that's what I did.

I am getting a spec'd out Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition or a Thinkpad, not sure yet but I am really leaning towards the Dell just because it comes with Linux preinstalled and it has a good build that looks very good to me.

Donovan Goodwin i just did exactly this last week. It's fantastic! It also came with the latest bios and firmware updates preinstalled

The "current" apple, the old apple with steve jobs wont do such things

Actually, that's what Apple's been doing all along?

Not really, Apple has always had incredible durability. I'm still using my 2010 macbook pro with some upgrades. I do need an upgrade now, but never would've thought it would last for 7+ years. Don't get me wrong, I'm both a Windows and apple user. I don't get all this 'fighting' over which one is better. They both have pro's and cons. But yeah this is the internet sadly and everyone has a voice.

Personally I've not experienced the legendary durability people keep talking about. I've had to have my 2015 Macbook Pro replaced twice (after multiple repair attempts), thankfully covered under AppleCare. Apple themselves gave up and just gave me a top of the line 2017 refreshed Macbook Pro for free as a replacement.

Jason Griffin I think that's because of several things: Steve Jobs wasn't involved any more, there's no upgradability any more which kind of made the pro consumer feel a bit betrayed and lot's of people have different experiences anyways. It's been kind of going downhill since Steve Jobs died. But I wouldn't know personally about your MacBook version, I still have the 2010 one.

+stig mogensen (Stay V Gaming) Thank you! Welcome!

J also look at everything apple pro channel. He says MBP 2016 sucks big time. Sadly, it only works better on FCPX. Sad.

hes not a fanboy though. he puts out a lot of critic.

Pinkk Wormm I'm a fan of dark grey themes.

Try f.lux and set it to slow transition. I can't use a PC without it!

Because some people use it outside at a picnic table or in bright areas like near some windows at school.

Same here. Excessive brightness is terrible not only for our eyes but for color accuracy. I know someone who had a super bright screen and order a pair of shoes he thought were orange but when he received them they were red. Lmao.

SAME HERE, I'm the only one I know who hates looking at high eye-frying brightness

+RezidentSeagull Thanks!

Robbie apple X

Sadly that is exactly the case. People (including myself) hate apple schemes to squeeze their money yet can't move from Mac OS to Windows for me mostly about stability. At least I won't upgrade to the newer model or in this case downgrade.

Hackintosh is much more an option now than ever. If you're at least a bit tech-savvy, do a bit of research up-front and have 2-3 days to spend on setting it up, it can run very nicely. Writing this from Sierra, on a Lenovo T460s, i7-6600u, 20GB RAM, 256GB SSD, for $1100. Very sturdy, spill-resistant, great keyboard, screen etc...Not to mention other very nice machines for a bit more money - Spectre, XPS etc. Admittedly, I *would* prefer an incredibly well-built Macbook Pro, but not the new one with all the flaws, for 2x more money...

Hackintosh FTW. Running 10.11 now on my Y50 with an upgraded Samsung pls-ips screen and a Samsung 850evo. Decimates all MBPs, especially since my CPU even if it is Haswell, doesn't throttle and runs stable at 3.6GHz (quad core HT).

and if they wanted to promote Ligntning for audio why did they put a headphone jack on this? The iPhone team seems "Courageous" but the MacBook team not so much

$4,299.00

Ram Simon wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow

pos for 4k

Also, can't say I've EVER had to reboot my Mac

James Rogers which model do u have ?

2016 15 inch with touchbar

Dude I wanna buy the new MacBook Pro but Battery Life is my biggest concern. I've been watching a lot of Reviews, it is not consistent. Some say Battery is bad 4/5 hours Others say they get 9 to 10 hours. I'm like WTF. So please, share your full experience with me on Battery.

I think it is Chrome that drains battery like crazy, I get around 7+ hours out of mine (same specs) when having 10+ chrome tabs open and 10+ programs launched (music, whatsapp, word, email, kindle and whatnot).

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hey guys

+Alex Kamen Glad you're here! :)

You PC, bro?

Mikko Haavisto just built my first one yeah!

Welcome abroad! I must clarify that PC (personal computer) could be a Win10 or MacOS computer.

+evo every PC I've owned has died or gotten significantly worse to the point its unusable within two years of making/buying it. I've had a laptop from apple for six years and it's still chugging along. Same thing with android phones as well (I've owned two android phones and two iphones). Hope your experience is better, but probably not :)

Mikko Haavisto of course. and thank you!

Richard Anderson Liu Don't forget the apple band aid I mean battery case

and that stupid Apple pencil and how you charge it

HOW STUPID it is that you CANNOT connect the latest iPhone OR latest Apple headphones to the latest MacBook, while you CAN connect an Android to MacBook! LOL! What a MAJOR FAIL! WOW!