My pleasure, happy to help.

Happy to help, and thanks for the additional information.

Thanks. Ours is always garaged as well. Definitely think they should have figured it out by now.

@@JRsGarage My 2019 Alltrack SEL is leaking. I had some standing water in the spare tire compartment which I scooped out and dried with a towel, but there is clearly water underneath that has soaked in the padding underneath. The car has 29,400 miles on it - still under warranty with extended sunroof warranty. VW is refusing to honor the warranty and I am taking them to court to force them to live up to their obligations. Very disappointed in VW.

I hope everything turns out well for you.

​@@JRsGarage I'll give VW one more chance on Jan. 2. If they still refuse, I will put the wheels of justice in motion and I will win. It only costs $20 to file a claim.

.I've been researching this water intrusion issue VW has given us and one of the videos I saw (this was on a MK7 Golf but kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bN6nfsSLybObgI0.html and Sportwagen have it too) anyway there's a drain that catches water behind the hatch release/back-up camera (the rear badge) that drains straight down and if it's plugged OR the hose isn't visible apparently it can leak into the spare tire well instead of where it supposed to drain if you open hatch you'll see hopefully in the middle bottom of hatch a rubber tube, the opening is about 3/8" where the end of tube is (should be anyway) mine is visible but reset inside the opening and I think it should be poking out just a bit so water drains out onto rear bumper instead of the inside of the hole. I just looked at mine and I'll have to retrieve that drain hose hopefully it's long enough...what a half assed design. I don't have any sign of wetness but this could be yet another place to check if you're experiencing water intrusion. Here's a link that describes in detail along with part number kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bN6nfsSLybObgI0.html

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I could not agree mmore with you Cheers for this video It really save me time Blessings

My pleasure.

Happy to help. As long as it doesn't sit too long you should be able to get it pretty clean.

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Mine too...these days been raining in Texas like crazy... I'm working on that now.

Good luck

The same on my 16 AT, the trunk full of water :( . I have seen the hole that is behind the rear bumper was stuck, this hole drains the water....have you find something wrong of your AT?

No, so far the transmission is working well.

Thanks for the tip.

My pleasure. There is a TSB for this service, just make sure they do the back drains along with the front.

My pleasure.

My pleasure, thanks for the info.

Thank you.

My pleasure.

My pleasure.

Happy to help.

My pleasure.

My pleasure. Sorry to hear about your issues.

My pleasure. Check with VW first before you DIY, they issued an extended warranty for these drains.

@JRsGarage nice Will do- got my first taste of leaking in the car yesterday on my 14 wagon

Yes, and I think all VWs with the panoramic roof would be very similar.

Am si eu VW Passat Variant B8 cu acoperiș panoramic,cele 4 scurgeri au fost blocate de la acel vazilin cu care a fost uns mecanismul de la panorama, personal am curățat cele 4 canale si am uns mecanismul cu spray,DAR oricum cînd ploua afara are scurgeri interior,si nustiu ce ar putea fi,poate de la careva îmbinări de la panorama sau si de cele 2 bare de pe acoperiș, as vrea sa ma duc la un servis sa scoată tot si sa vad problema.

My pleasure, hope you get it fixed.

I hope it works for you.

Good luck with that. 🙄

@JRsGarage thanks man. I'm gonna need it.😁

It's only been a few months since I did the job. But every year or so I plan to open up the back side panels and force air through the lines in order to make sure they're clear.

Happy to help.

Hair dryer and a lot of patience, or bring it to an interior detailer and have them clean it out.

I have the same issue with my Alltrack with a leak at the rear which filled up my spare tire compartment with water. Was able to get a regular dehumidifier from a fiend of mine. Just let it sit inside for at least 24 hours with all doors closed.

Thanks for the tip.

1. It is pretty much in the corner or just inboard of the corner. Yes, trimmer line should work. It would be very difficult to feed it top to bottom as the drains start at the back of the sunroof which is inaccessible. But if you push enough up from the bottom eventually you should be able to grab it at the top. There is some plastic pieces at the rear corners of the sunroof which may make it difficult to feed all the way through. 2. I used bicycle brake cable. I did not go all the way through. I just cleared the obstruction at the rear corners of the sunroof and then flushed it with water.

@@JRsGaragethank you!!

I'm sure the proper fix would end up costing them millions so they will try to play the blame game any chance they get.

That sure is one way to do it.

It happens to nearly all VWs with the panoramic roof.

I'm not sure where the motor is but I would think it is probably under the headliner behind the sunroof.

They're from the irrigation section of Lowe's or Home Depot. 3/4" if memory serves.

​@@JRsGarage Seems like a good idea, but super nervous about cutting that cable. How have they been working out for you? I bought a used Alltrack from Carmax and surprise surprise less than a week and a few flash storms and already saw leaks in the back corners near the pano roof. I really like the car and there aren't many options in the wagon department so I'm torn. Removed the rear flappers today, but I have no garage or workspace to remove the headliner. I could perhaps snake the rear drains starting from the bottom which may help or push the gunk back up in them. Again, I like the coupling idea because then you could snake the drain from the middle in either direction, but seems a risky proposition cutting the line in the middle. Better be dang sure one has the parts and can finish it before moving onto something else

No leaks since.

Water will get underneath the glass- by design. It is meant to get in at the outside edge where the front and back glass panels meet. It should then run along the inner lip of the sunroof towards the rear drains and out. If you have dirt build up in those channels then it may cause water to overflow the channel onto your headliner even though it seems to be flowing out fine at the exit.

Find the holes in the corners of the sun roof and push a 3 foot wire through till it pops out somewhere. I find that bicycle brake/shifter cable works great. The exit may not be visible but if you clear it out with the wire and then flush it with water it should drain properly after that.

That's lucky. Make sure they take the caps off the ends of the drain lines and don't just clean them out and leave the caps there, because you'll end up with the same issue in a couple years.

@@JRsGarage got an update this morning, Apperantly there’s damage to the pano frame and they will be replacing it completely

Interesting.

Just be very careful as you risk sending 5ft of gunk and sludge up onto your sunroof shade and headliner. Which would be a pain in the ass to try to clean.

That's too extreme for my taste. I wouldn't do that. Just add checking the drain tubes to the annual maintenance. That's my plan.

⁠@@JRsGarage, I thought I’d escape this particular known GSW curse, but after 115K miles, I got hit with a couple, oil burning (TDI) and pano roof leaking. How many miles on yours when this leak appeared? A side note, what an MVP! 🤝

Not a leak in my case. The drain lines were clogged causing the water to back up in the line and overflow onto the headliner. I had about 47k miles when it started.

No, the roof panels are not sealed. If you pour water on the sunroof you should see it dripping from all four corners of the car through the drain tubes depending on how level the car is.

Yea, one of the engineers really screwed up with the design.

I haven’t had the leak return since but I also take the time to clean out the drains once a year.

@@JRsGarage thanks for confirming, really appreciate it. What do you use to clean the drains?

@shamm6880 water. Watch under the car and ensure it flows freely out the bottom drains.

This is what I have done.

Can you show where those 5 screws are and what plastic you are referring to? thanks.

@@jonathancorcio3668 dude. Underneeth the car.. In the back there is a plastic cover.. 5 screws visible.

Amazon, search for "car trim removal kit".

@@JRsGarage thanks

My pleasure.

In the corners of the rear bumper. Up under the bumper cover.

@@JRsGarage hello good morning but where are they by the window. at the part of the glass on the roof that cannot move

They are at the 2 corners. Only accessible if you completely remove the headliner.

@@JRsGarage okay thanks

Happy to help.

It sure is a major pain to deal with.

@@JRsGarage Volkswagen has had this issue with sunroof drains since the original Rabbit back in 1975. They never got it right.

Yes, I received that paperwork in the mail a few months ago. A few years too late.

Do you have a question about minute 2:46?

You'd think that they would have solved it by now.

Yes, but no need to repeat a video that's already been done. If people have trouble with the sunroof tray drains, drain lines, or headliner, now they know how to access them.

So if we just cut the tips off the front and rear drain plugs it should solve this?

Yes, the flappers at the end of the lines should be removed. They can be pulled off once you locate them.