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2018 / 2019 Volkswagen Golf R Review and Comparison

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Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

6 жыл бұрын

VW's Golf R (or Golfer as I kept calling it) is not the fastest hot hatch in America, nor is it the best handling or arguably the best value. But if my cash were on the line, it is the hatch I'd buy. Why? Let's explore that. Note: The 5.6 second 0-60 time quoted was the best time we could get after we shot this video and then did back to back runs testing different launch techniques.
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@audaciousifti
@audaciousifti 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, just gonna let you know that I love how you review cars that the average viewer will actually buy as opposed to supercars all the time. Thanks for the thorough, unbiased reviews.
@edysinsimon8646
@edysinsimon8646 6 жыл бұрын
I would too! The Golf R is a all year round all weather road warrior! Not such a fanboy of the huge wing thing...
@SteevK69
@SteevK69 5 жыл бұрын
@@tomw485 I'm thinking he's referring to the wings on the Honda and WRX.
@SteevK69
@SteevK69 5 жыл бұрын
Edysin Simon: I was a big fan of DSM AWD turbos. I bought 3 Eclipses and a Talon - until they went to FWD only in 2000. If they would have kept the AWD with the V6 they put into the Eclipse GT, I would have bought one - cladding and all!
@katmanjenks1961
@katmanjenks1961 6 жыл бұрын
Why buy a car to impress others! Just impress yourself!
@greall
@greall 6 жыл бұрын
The reviews aren't for the fanboys and you offer detailed explanations and price comparisons.I appreciate this a lot.
@Antenox
@Antenox 6 жыл бұрын
Why would you get a hot hatch as a weekend “fun car” when you can get dedicated sports cars for the same price? The whole point of a hot hatch is for it to be an all-arounder.
@RightYouAreKen01
@RightYouAreKen01 6 жыл бұрын
You’re not the first reviewer to say this, but the Golf R definitely has 4 way power lumbar. The switch doesn’t look it, but it does go up and down as well as in and out.
@frumpd63
@frumpd63 6 жыл бұрын
I drove a MK7 GTI with DSG like I stole it for 4 years and 50k miles and it was bulletproof. Similar story for my brother's R and my wife's A3. It's a solid platform if you do the maintenance. The DSG elevates the car both in it's sense of immediacy and in the amount of power it can handle with a tune. The engagement you lose is more than made up for in modding potential, in my opinion.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 6 жыл бұрын
frumpd63: Same story here. I'd driven for 40+ years without ever having at least one MT car in the garage. In 2013 I purchased a GTI with DSG at my wife's urging so she could occasionally commute in the hell of Seattle traffic without too much aggravation. I quickly found that the flexibility of the DSG far outweighed the testosterone charge I had gotten from a manual transmission. When I replaced the MK6 GTI with a 2018 version I didn't think twice. When I drive in the twisty roads of the Cascades I put the transmission in manual mode and drive it just as I would a stick. And when I'm stuck in interstate traffic zipping along at 5 to 30 mph for what seems like hours, I let the DSG do its thing. Overtaking when the trans is in "D" is as simple as using the paddle to downshift. What do I miss? Well, there is the thrill of shifting into first gear when I come to a stop. The DSG does that for me even when I'm in "M" but I've gotten used to losing that "thrill." P.S. When I added an APR tune to my previous GTI, the technician said, "Well, now we don't have to have the talk about annual replacement of your clutch."
@TheRacingShawn
@TheRacingShawn 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, Alex. I got the Golf R with DSG as my daily. My only complaint is about the wheel. I already bent one original 19 inch wheel and one 18 inch winter wheel...
@melprophet1936
@melprophet1936 5 жыл бұрын
I had 2 bent rims and 4 tire blow outs in a year driving in NY with 19's on my R...Took it down to 18". Much better. Still have to be careful, but better.
@karolusmagnus7844
@karolusmagnus7844 5 жыл бұрын
I just drove a manual and I loved it. It's probably my next car.
@jwrarmstrong
@jwrarmstrong 6 жыл бұрын
Alex is right about the CIvic styling. I'm 64 years old and I'd feel like a total DORK driving one. If I were in my 20's, on the other hand, I probably would have thought the Honda was cool. The thing is, everybody looks cool in a Golf R.
@eklektikTechno
@eklektikTechno 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! And older drivers look even cooler I’m 54 with a 2018 and I’ve seen drivers older than me in GTI’s R’s who look extremely cool especially if they keep it all stock
@RangerAmateur
@RangerAmateur 6 жыл бұрын
You've been having major 0-60mph measurement problems lately, someone messed up the timer for sure.
@Joose
@Joose Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, in the Mk7/7.5 Golf R, most testers shift in to 3rd before hitting 60, even though you can hit it in 2nd.
@DenisLeskovets
@DenisLeskovets 6 жыл бұрын
Good job Alex, pumping out these reviews! I enjoy them so much.
@nicholas6789
@nicholas6789 6 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work Alex! We all love the thoroughness and simplicity of your reviews! Speaking of simplicity: I think your logo will look much cooler without the "background". Basically, just keep the 2 As and the road.
@kiwiklogg
@kiwiklogg 5 жыл бұрын
The Golf R is the better daily driver + weekend fun for sure. The EA888 engine is also extremely responsive to tunes, so a simple software flash will give you sub 4 sec to 100kph. Will wipe the floor with type R and Focus RS and still be comfortable :)
@entrrt
@entrrt 4 жыл бұрын
I was just gonna say the same regarding the increased fun factor with a simple STG 1 tune. STG 2 and now you're pushing 400+HP for a daily! Ya can't launch a FWD car very well if you're pushing 400+ ponies unless you like wheel spin and a worn clutch. My '18 DSG R is still a "virgin" but plenty quick for my taste for now. I can't even imagine what another 100+ HP on it feels like?!!
@bird718
@bird718 6 жыл бұрын
Golf R over the Civic type R because...... i am over 20 years of age and want to look it. drive that honda and they will check your ID everyday at the same 7/11 even if your 50+ years old.
@sic22l
@sic22l 6 жыл бұрын
The other advantage over the Type-R is that you don't have to pay $10k every 20-30k miles to replace the transmission.
@sic22l
@sic22l 6 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much the same transmission.
@bird718
@bird718 6 жыл бұрын
a turd has one of those near my house, good to know nice things will happen to his transmission one day.
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 6 жыл бұрын
bird718 lol 😂. I'm 51. It does look juvenile. I've had to much fun with manuels though. I'd take Type R.
@SteevK69
@SteevK69 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithjackson4985 Who's Manuel, and what kind of fun? Golf-R can be had with manual trans for $1K less.
@kevink1595
@kevink1595 6 жыл бұрын
The Civic is hideous! Golf -R is the total package...CLASS!!
@andrewperbegloo6219
@andrewperbegloo6219 4 жыл бұрын
true, well unless you get the Civic Hatchback Sport Touring, yes your dropping the Dollars but overall looks better, feels better. but always room for imporovement
@eklektikTechno
@eklektikTechno 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the Current type R is hideous
@Lawman-196
@Lawman-196 6 жыл бұрын
Big difference, Golf r speaks to great range of buyers, others are teens-only. Golf r speaks to those that want performance and driveability. I am picking mine up Wednesday, and this is my 2nd Golf, 1st was GTI and I loved it.
@kingTiwana
@kingTiwana 4 жыл бұрын
how are you loving the golf? any videos we can see?
@amg4616
@amg4616 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome car and review. Very honest to the point. I’m getting the 7.5 2019 version of the car soon. Thanks man.👍👍
@WitchDoctor87
@WitchDoctor87 5 жыл бұрын
I looked into 2016-2019 of Golf R and found years 2016-2017 are the best ways to buy. The 2019 has less hp in exchange for more control. I like the more hp myself.
@bodiroga96
@bodiroga96 4 жыл бұрын
@@WitchDoctor87 naaa lol the facelift version 2018-2019 is much better transmission wise, just more reliable lol who cares about 4 hp? hahaha one apr tune and you have 350 minimum
@WitchDoctor87
@WitchDoctor87 4 жыл бұрын
@@bodiroga96 yeah just looked into this. I'm planning on getting a Veloster N 2021. Thanks for the input.
@alext2933
@alext2933 6 жыл бұрын
The golf r is the only choice for me. Easily tunable to around 340/350 BHP with just a remap and an uprated foam pannel filter e.g. pipercross. Not much more than $500 all in. I have seen some with over 500 BHP (See HPA, APR etc) with stock internals. I love the Jekyll and Hyde personality to it, especially with a little investment to unlock the performance.
@hades9896
@hades9896 6 жыл бұрын
How is Golf R driving in snow? I live in Canada which has harsh winter. This winter requires AWD car during the winter.
@johnwjeromejr
@johnwjeromejr 2 жыл бұрын
For the Golf R, a basic stage 1 tune (for under $1000) is a real game changer
@ericdolby1622
@ericdolby1622 3 жыл бұрын
My 2018 Soul has a DCT but its a full second slower to 60
@abdelbolanos
@abdelbolanos 6 жыл бұрын
Alex the best!!! Thanks for this review.
@ak4939
@ak4939 3 жыл бұрын
The very fact that Honda dealers can *consistently* sell, every single 6MT Type-R they get into the US, at or above MSRP, is a testament to the fact that it does not (and personally, should not !) come with any semblance of an Automatic shifter. It *is* sacrilege, as you stated ! But your comments on the terrible tack-ons on the Type-R body, making it a stylistic disaster, is absolutely spot-on. Also, if they introduced a version of the SH-AWD into the Type-R, that would have made it my top pick, among these alternatives.......I can even forgive the tacky plastics on its body.
@audiwankenobi361
@audiwankenobi361 6 жыл бұрын
You have your commentary locked down!....I'm tuned in to many other channels,of course,but to my ears they all start to sound the same because of NOT just thinking about what they want to say before saying it....if you are using cue cards it's hard to tell because your delivery is always spontaneous.
@thegiantgaming7592
@thegiantgaming7592 4 жыл бұрын
The Haldex AWD system on the Golf R doesnt engage in normal operation, thus not costing you any more fuel wasted to drivetrain loss. Yet you do still carry more weight around.
@Remnant1976
@Remnant1976 2 жыл бұрын
Man.......I watched this whole video and was waiting to get a comparison between the 2018 and 2019. Great review or comparison against the competition.
@nodrogkam
@nodrogkam 6 жыл бұрын
100% the same logic and review I would give the car after owning it since June 2018. :-)
@Wolvesq
@Wolvesq 6 жыл бұрын
Test drive a BMW 228 too if you're looking to spend around $40k in this segment.
@natelan69420
@natelan69420 5 жыл бұрын
2017 Golf R w/ 6sp DSG (7sp came 2018+) and this car is my soulmate. It is perfection in every way imaginable.
@davidyoung9443
@davidyoung9443 6 жыл бұрын
I understand what you are saying about the automatic vs the manual. I personally feel that I have more control in the bad weather with a manual and paired with the AWD that is the way to go. I personally own a Subaru (sadly plain Impreza) as my daily and I have the manual for the bad weather in the Northwest US that we experience. The other thought that crosses my mind is the manual really has no maintenance except for a clutch plate every 100k miles or so (at least for me). Dual clutch transmissions still make me concerned about long term (5+ years) of daily use. Just seems like more to break.
@nodrogkam
@nodrogkam 6 жыл бұрын
Your point on maintenance is indeed true about the DCT. Though for 2018 with the new 7 speed (which has been used in some Audi models in years past), the maintenance frequency is now extended from, I believe, an extra 2 years/20,000 miles compared to the previous 6 speed DCT. That said, it's still more maintenance than the manual.
@swanblake
@swanblake 6 жыл бұрын
David Young I agree. The manual makes the golf r engaging. Something it lacks greatly with the dct.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 6 жыл бұрын
David Young, I have just two very quick comments to add to your statement, Hallelujah and Amen!.
@mark_r49
@mark_r49 6 жыл бұрын
Get a bike!
@davidyoung9443
@davidyoung9443 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@yippie6862
@yippie6862 6 жыл бұрын
18 mpg, being driven in a sporty manner like most people will drive it, plus a 14.5 gallon fuel tank? Less than 261 miles before fill-ups sounds fun. Thanks VW for continually shrinking the fuel tank.
@BartlettRacing66
@BartlettRacing66 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah the highway mpg is completely lame too, not even 30 mpg with all the power and little weight?
@matthewphillips80
@matthewphillips80 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 2018 for two months and drove it to Colorado and back. Driving normally I averaged 31.8 mpg and over 400 mile range. All about how you drive it. This is awd with front wheel drive bias. Most of the time it runs in fwd. My Subaru wrx never got that kinda gas mileage. Ever
@yippie6862
@yippie6862 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, VW's with the 2.0T get good millage on the highway. I've owned a few. But if you like to drive sporty most of the time and live near a city then the mpg is going to suffer. I'd just like to see VW make the gas tank a little bigger that's all.
@ThePsychodo
@ThePsychodo 6 жыл бұрын
Really like the golf R and would certainly buy one over the competition. I do not care for the Civic's looks at all and the Subaru is in a bad need of an update. VW needs to add some colors to the R's palate though. Love the reviews, keep up the good work!
@sheridanbucket
@sheridanbucket 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused: I thought the Golf R has 4Motion, which is/was front-wheel drive that sends power to the rear wheels when slip is detected. So, is it full-time 4wd or 2wd with slip diverting power to all 4? :S
@vhateverlie
@vhateverlie 6 жыл бұрын
sheridanbucket it's part time AWD, but it's very quick to engage when needed. 4motion is fwd biased
@illyp1
@illyp1 6 жыл бұрын
if only VW brought the Scirocco to the states
@NotstarvinMarvin
@NotstarvinMarvin 5 жыл бұрын
Car is discontinued anyways?..
@MrMuggsly
@MrMuggsly 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think that the Golf R with 18" wheels would be a better/softer ride? I test drove one last week and loved the car but even in comfort the car was just too rough over the bumps where I drive.
@quadcoreQ
@quadcoreQ 5 жыл бұрын
MrMuggsly agree but they don’t offer 18 inch as an option so you’re stuck with 19 inch
@SteevK69
@SteevK69 5 жыл бұрын
MrMuggsly you could just buy 18" wheels & tires, then sell the (Gorgeous) 19" wheels/tires... Wheels and tires are the #1 upgrade/mod people make to cars!
@johnholst
@johnholst 6 жыл бұрын
I think Alex nailed it in his assessment of this car. But the Type R if top performance is your only concern. Buy the Golf R if you want the best all around experience. Too bad we can't talk about the i30N.
@AJKlopp
@AJKlopp 6 жыл бұрын
Great review! Subaru’s AWD is touted as “true”, vs. Golf R’s (max 50% f-r split). Significant for us snow-belters? Also curious about differences between Digital Cockpit display between VW & Audi.
@fitzgoblin81
@fitzgoblin81 6 жыл бұрын
LOVE this video!!!! I liked that you were driving it right away!
@bryanjedi8242
@bryanjedi8242 5 жыл бұрын
I would still pick the 6 speed. I switched cars a few years back to an automatic and I've missed my Neon R/T ever since. I hope get a manual next time around around.
@tsun890
@tsun890 6 жыл бұрын
Funny you mentioned Type R so many times that I ended up checking Type R review again. :D
@terrancesneed3757
@terrancesneed3757 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. Alex do you think the Golf R is worth the premium over the GTI? AWD and more power are great but it doesn't seem like the Golf R is that much of a step up from the GTI.
@brandodurham
@brandodurham 6 жыл бұрын
Loving mine! Throw on a jb4 and you get sub 4 to 60 with the dsg, and keep your warranty 👍
@SteevK69
@SteevK69 5 жыл бұрын
JB4?
@ak4939
@ak4939 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the Golf-R and its styling. With a 6MT, it will fit in well with my lifestyle.
@TheAlchemistZero1
@TheAlchemistZero1 6 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enough to purchase my dark gray Type R last month in Northern CA for MSRP. Although aesthetics are subjective, I only appreciate the exterior in my chosen color. It reminds me of my 2005 S2K, except it's practical, which is a benefit since I am a parent. I am mostly agnostic when it comes to cars, with the exception of classic muscle cars, which does not resonate with my tastes. Regardless, I do appreciate both VW HH options (GTI & R). Although I do think that it's time for Subaru to "up the ante" for both the WRX, as well as the STI.
@sic22l
@sic22l 6 жыл бұрын
Take care of the transmission and replace the fluid in the clutch mechanism. Google "Type R transmission issues"
@tonyLA24
@tonyLA24 6 жыл бұрын
Thats sad to hear. I would go for the manual transmission any day! I commute to work, 1 hour each way, 25 miles each, in stop and go traffic with a manual. Manual for life!
@misternordberg3675
@misternordberg3675 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed tony. "I would choose the automatic" = I'm getting old. :)
@brandodurham
@brandodurham 6 жыл бұрын
tonyLA24 25 miles in an hour is hardly traffic 😂 that’s clear sailing for me. Miss a manual, but it’s torture where I drive most of the time
@pawanchainrai2319
@pawanchainrai2319 6 жыл бұрын
Do you still use Nokia?? LMAO
@matts6551
@matts6551 5 жыл бұрын
Pawan Chainrai - do you wipe your own butt or do you have a robot wipe it for you? I prefer to wipe my own butt and I prefer to shift my own gears. No reason to insult others
@kerryallen5677
@kerryallen5677 5 жыл бұрын
DCT’s aren’t for everyone. But give one a try. You might find out how fun they are. Most of the cars I’ve owned have been manuals, but I chose the DCT option when I bought my GTI and have never regretted it. I can choose to put it in full automatic mode and not think about shifting or I can put it in ‘manual’ mode and get lightning fast, perfect shifts at my command. Looking to replace my aging GTI, I got excited when I saw several end of year deals on Golf R’s. However, they were all 6-speed manuals. If you really want a manual Golf R, there might be a few great deals left on 2018’s.
@GOLFADDICT65
@GOLFADDICT65 6 жыл бұрын
not sure if you mentioned it....i assume its premium gas or is it regular ?....thx.....i took one for a test drive today and wow what a fun car to drive and fast
@maxhamer
@maxhamer 6 жыл бұрын
"More interesting design on the Type R" Thats the nicest way to put it...
@BoopSnoot
@BoopSnoot 6 жыл бұрын
Aesthetics aside, have you noticed that everyone refuses to compare this to mainstream RWD platforms? A Golf R really can't fit any more into it than a Mustang GT, but in the rare cases where you see a Type R or Golf R pitted against a 50/50 weight distribution RWD vehicle with more horsepower, you see how they don't stand any chance of keeping up on the track. And the Mustang for example actually has a softer more comfortable suspension than either R, and even has air-conditioned seats. Now, some may sell "well the V8 is thirsty", but remember that the Ecoboost is also an option, still out accelerates and out handles the hot hatches, and yet gets 32mpg. Heck, unlike the Type R and Ecoboost, the Mustang is even rated to tow 1000lbs in the US (which has stricter 12% grade requirements than Europe for towing).
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 6 жыл бұрын
"A Golf R really can't fit any more into it than a Mustang GT..." Unless, of course what you're trying to "fit...into it" is human beings with legs.
@BoopSnoot
@BoopSnoot 6 жыл бұрын
You consider the stiffly sprung subcompact Golf R to be a good people hauler? Clearly I was referencing 2-occupants + luggage/things. There isn't much difference between the two in that respect, since the Mustang has quite a large trunk. And if you really want a true comfortable 4/5 person vehicle that's sporty, I would get a Dodge Charger R/T Scat Pack instead (which in fact, my dad did). Being based on a fullsize Mercedes sedan chassis with nearly 500hp and equal amounts of torque means its very comfortable and well appointed and with its heated and ventilated big seats and fullsize rear seats with a nice trunk will be much better at the task and at 12.6 seconds in the 1/4 mile (almost a second faster than the Golf R) while still having understated subtle styling and IMO a far more entertaining rumbly exhaust note from the 6.4 liter V8 with hands down one of the best non dual-clutch transmissions in the world.
@stevenhaas9622
@stevenhaas9622 5 жыл бұрын
@@BoopSnoot have you ever tried getting a kid into or out of a car seat in the back of a mustang?
@BoopSnoot
@BoopSnoot 5 жыл бұрын
​@@stevenhaas9622 Which part of "Clearly I was referencing 2-occupants + luggage/things" was most confusing to you? Like I said, if I wanted a really comfortable fullsize people hauler for 4/5 I'd get a Charger R/T Scat Pack, just like my dad's.
@future62
@future62 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at C&D's times... unless you really need AWD... IDK. Only 0.2s faster from 5-60 (the real test), 3 MPH faster through the quarter. GTI runs regular fuel too. I know what I'd buy
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very nice car. I get it sir. I would take the Civic. Reason? Fun! This segment has a bunch of winner's. But the Type R punches far above it's weight and can be a comfortable cruiser with room if needed. Plus the VW is considerably more expensive.
@stevenhaas9622
@stevenhaas9622 5 жыл бұрын
too bad it looks like something designed by a 14-year old.
@nimblybimbly4002
@nimblybimbly4002 6 жыл бұрын
If I were planning on buying another ICE vehicle the Golf R would be the one.
@ryanthomastew
@ryanthomastew 6 жыл бұрын
I have yet to drive the Golf R with the DSG. I've driven other VW's with the DSG, albeit earlier generations. DSG is a great transmission, I still prefer to row my own gears. Why? It's more engaging and requires me to pay more attention to driving. I get more control over which gear I want. Clearly I'm slower 0-60 but I'm not trying to race everyone around town. A Golf R, even in manual form, is REALLY fast compared to most cars on the road these days. I did have a manual 2016 Golf R (tornado red - so pretty) and I loved it. I loved hitting gears 1-2 then 2-3 around town. So much fun, power/torque and giddy up n go!
@herco2543
@herco2543 6 жыл бұрын
Another quality video from you. I am looking at possibly getting a Golf R and was wondering what your thoughts are on the reliability of the newer generations of vw's.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 6 жыл бұрын
Lease a German car, never buy one.
@stephensuh2120
@stephensuh2120 6 жыл бұрын
Herc O I’ve owned three VWs, the golf r being my third, and all have been generally reliable. That said, in my experience they’ve cost a tad more to service over long periods of ownership than my Japanese cars. Not enough to put me off from the brand, though. It’s worth noting that all new VWs come with 6yr 72k mile warranties, which should give you some peace of mind should you be interested in owning the vehicle for longer than 3 or so years.
@FlyinGato
@FlyinGato 6 жыл бұрын
Type R for LIFE!
@sic22l
@sic22l 6 жыл бұрын
Type R has one more con - transmission issue. Clutch mechanism (hydraulic) overheats if you drive for too long, fluid boils and as a result even if you press (clutch) pedal to the metal it won't fully decouple. Gear changes are no longer smooth, premature transmission wear&tear is also one of the side effects. Honda doesn;t cover it under the warranty.
@joepah51
@joepah51 6 жыл бұрын
In Miami Civic Type R are going $2k over list price, USED!
@juanr.rodriguez3109
@juanr.rodriguez3109 6 жыл бұрын
I like the Golf R, but with an APR stage 2 and better brakes , and the roof bars. You talk about fuel economy on a sports car? What do you need 45 mpg? I think a round figure of 30 hwy/city is fine. Anyways my 2 cents.
@mdavid1955
@mdavid1955 6 жыл бұрын
With this much technology in the car and VW's reputation over the last few years,,,better get the extended warranty.
@ChristosDimou
@ChristosDimou 6 жыл бұрын
The Golf R is the grown-up version of hot hatches. I like a lot the TypeR but I would buy the Golf either in manual or an automatic (definitely the DCT) because I don't like the looks of the TypeR. Too much complexity for just a tenth of a second in track use.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 6 жыл бұрын
Great review, Alex - Sweet car...but $40k can get you some serious performance elsewhere. I also have no faith in the reliability and longevity of VW.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 6 жыл бұрын
Nor should you have any faith........
@Mirror1973
@Mirror1973 4 жыл бұрын
Sacrilegious indeed! I would ALWAYS choose the manual transmission
@davids1816
@davids1816 6 жыл бұрын
The perfect sporty compact car for adults who don't vape or have ear gauges. If you had a civic when you were 20 that was half red and half primer and had 2 or 3 different kinds of wheels on it at the same time - the Civic will make you very happy.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 6 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual, Alex. However, I think you might want to consult a physician about the lead that seems to be accumulating in your right foot. When you reported that you had gotten about 18 mpg in your recent "short review" of the 2018 GTI, I assumed it was because you climbed Mt. Hood and didn't come back down. But now you're reporting the same 18 mpg for the Golf R. Have you noticed you're listing to the right when you walk? You might want to have your right foot examined. :) Seriously, I realize that when you review a car it's important to test it in all sort of conditions and drive it more aggressively than most drivers do in daily driving. For example, I've averaged about 28 mpg in my 2018 GTI over the first 3000 miles and my previous MK6 with an APR Stage I+ tune averaged about 24 mpg in mixed driving. No criticism intended for your reported results but I think it's worth noting that your results are unlikely to be duplicated by an average owner. In the past you often mentioned that your test included commuting over the 2200 ft Santa Cruz mountains. I have a feeling that your more recent tests may be a bit more "adventurous."
@deanmarr785
@deanmarr785 6 жыл бұрын
Type r is not faster than the golf r. Especially DSG
@kevinrotge4774
@kevinrotge4774 5 жыл бұрын
it depends on what you mean by faster. drag race you are right. track race with equal tires and drivers although I thank it would be close I think the Type R would win even though I drive a 2017 Golf R. what I mean by close is under .5 sec difference.
@weatherfox1
@weatherfox1 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinrotge4774 Yes on the track the type R would beat the Golf, with an equally skilled driver. But I wouldn't be caught dead in one.
@cesarmarquez7120
@cesarmarquez7120 4 жыл бұрын
WeatherFox why. it’s not as if the type R isn’t an insanely valuable car given what it’s capable of at its price class.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is if you know how to launch it. Around a track it will murder it.
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinrotge4774 whp really cares. Even if it was 2 seconds faster, #1 Nobody is racing their Type R or Golf R at the track for money, #2. That better lap time the Type R might have will be negligible in the street. Whether it’s 0.5 seconds, or 5 seconds, you aren’t going to notice that time savings on a curvy canyon run.
@harrisj2278
@harrisj2278 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex great video and a nice breakdown on an excellent hatchback. I own a focus RS and love the car just to point out that Ford did announce that they will only be producing the mustang and crossover focus for North America as of 2020 so although I’m optimistic I don’t think we’ll be seeing the upcoming focus or fiesta lineup in the near future.
@93455Driver
@93455Driver 6 жыл бұрын
Very good and fair review, the Type R is awesome especially in terms of handling, I do wish it had a better exhaust sound that matched its personality. I can think of two other Golf R alternatives, the upcoming Veloster N and the GTI. The Veloster N could be a lower priced alternative to the Type R, why the I30N is not coming to the US is a topic all of its own. The GTI is so good as is, is the R worth 10-12k more? Not sure. I have a 2017 GTI Sport with DSG, it does everything well.The R, in green though, is tempting if it was $36k and came with plaid. An outsider, used AMG GLA45's seemed to have dropped in price a lot, that is one leery engine and sounds awesome.
@rsmith2320
@rsmith2320 6 жыл бұрын
I wish the JCW Mini Cooper came w/ AWD. The looks of the VW is too boring and the Honda is too “boy racer”. Mini hits the sweet spot on styling.
@TW-fx2jx
@TW-fx2jx 6 жыл бұрын
How do these age? I loved my 1998 Jetta GLX VR6 5spd ... 40k tho... ugh
@acefighterpilot
@acefighterpilot 4 жыл бұрын
Got a 7R to complement my '01 12v VR6 Cabrio. With 208k miles on the clock now, I expect the Cabrio to outlast the R in every way except paint integrity. They don't build them like they used to. Sadly that's true across the whole industry.
@josemontano7767
@josemontano7767 4 жыл бұрын
We get it you like the Type R.
@gimlifn
@gimlifn 6 жыл бұрын
For me the aesthetics on the Honda Civic Type R are good just get rid of the rear wing. I am a lip spoiler fan and would really like that on the back instead.
@RobertLeBlancPhoto
@RobertLeBlancPhoto 6 жыл бұрын
Because the 2018 Golf R took so long to arrive in the US, I ended up buying a loaded 2018 Audi S3, for only $4K more than what the Golf R sells for. I'm happy.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 3 жыл бұрын
Wish the a3 had manual
@zimingkong8839
@zimingkong8839 6 жыл бұрын
Golf R all day long
@karlp8484
@karlp8484 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% in agreement. I actually work for Honda and I just can't get past the hideous plastic fake grills front and back on the type R civic. I know it would sell better if wasn't so "boy racer" (I know what you are referring too).
@karlp8484
@karlp8484 6 жыл бұрын
And if you can have a DCT with paddle shifts like in the Golf, then you definitely don't want a manual (and I like manuals generally).
@garbinator09
@garbinator09 5 жыл бұрын
At 63, I would not consider Honda Type R either. I have been test driving MX5’s. But, passenger side is a complete “NO-GO.” Maybe my dog could take sitting there. Nothing human I love overall feel and performance of MX, but comfort, driving conditions during summertime 104 temps the small A/C cannot cool interior much at all. Plus, ingress egress is for me akin to lowering yourself into a Go-Kart just to go on an errand. Noise level is same as motorcycle riding. No seat adjustments, no lumbar. Sound system iffy as road noise wind and engine make listening to stereo challenging. Then of course theres NO CAR at all. Save me thousands of dollars! Battery powered bicycle call it good. I live in Kazifornia. The state of tax and fee individuals to death.
@irishbob817
@irishbob817 5 жыл бұрын
@@garbinator09 do what many others are doing. Move to Central or South America. Hell of a lot cheaper, and better health Care. And all you need to get around is a Bicycle or Public Transit...
@A.ChristopherJohnson
@A.ChristopherJohnson 6 жыл бұрын
the gti, autobahn is a competitor as well bro
@nixodian
@nixodian 5 жыл бұрын
Will be buying golfr, gti or civic typeR (dark blue or black, quietest colors for it) for family of 4, everyday driving with reliability, practicality and fun. Please do a comparison
@PeakDecline
@PeakDecline 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a Golf R and I think you basically nailed why Alex. It is my only vehicle and I needed something that could basically do it all but was still compact for regular city driving and living. The Civic Type R was actually my second in the market, WRX STI third, and Focus RS last. Why? Because the Civic was close to the Golf's practical nature and did drive very lovely but I need AWD for winter and frankly I just think the Type R is ugly. Plus I'm a big guy and fit best in the Golf. In my ranks the STI and RS were much further behind. I find the STI just a bit more livable than the RS. The Focus RS was a real disappointment, brutally stiff riding car, I couldn't live with it as a daily.
@longbowdt
@longbowdt 6 жыл бұрын
I own a MK6 Golf R (manual). I love a manual, and look at every opportunity to drive the car as "practice". :) But my wife owns a Lexus ES, and has no interest in learning a stick. She stopped making excuses twenty years ago: " I'll learn to drive a manual when you get a nicer car". Driving her car on long road trips, where she can share in the driving, leaves me spiritually depleted. That Lexus is like a four-door Vampire sucking the joie de vivre of driving right out of my marrow. So, the MK7.5 R with a DCT and adaptive suspension. Btw, she had no complaints when I drove my mk6 R on a 6 on a short six hour road trip (then back, of course), so there is that too. Now if I can just catch her in an "anything-to-please-my-man" moment! Pray for me. Help me Obiwan Kinobe!
@joethebet7177
@joethebet7177 6 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I like the Golf R over the competition: 1.Maybe I’m just getting older On the other hand, I would pick the Type R over this bcoz of quality issues. Heard it a lot in youtube and forums.
@sic22l
@sic22l 6 жыл бұрын
Type R has serious transmission issue, it rarely lasts more than 20-30k miles.
@joethebet7177
@joethebet7177 6 жыл бұрын
really?
@sic22l
@sic22l 6 жыл бұрын
Yup. It's there since at least two generations. Honda is still using the same transmission but they didn't bother to fix it.
@joethebet7177
@joethebet7177 6 жыл бұрын
but overall reliability better than vw?
@Gabis1648
@Gabis1648 6 жыл бұрын
typeR is practically unbreakable, I have friends in Germany who spend all day in nurburgring without any problem, they have already passed 100 thousand miles just exchanging fluids and tires.
@huskypup3489
@huskypup3489 6 жыл бұрын
0-60 in 5.6? Seems like all the ponies are not showing up. This car should run under 5 seconds to 60.
@rreichar1
@rreichar1 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Couldn’t agree more with your conclusions.
@SloanZurnToto
@SloanZurnToto 6 жыл бұрын
Alex, when are you going to do a full review of the Civic Type R? I test drove the Golf R in both the DSG auto and the manual transmissions, and the DSG with its far less driver involvement was faster, but much more boring, and not nearly as much fun to drive as the manual. You mentioned many times in this video that the Civic Type R is so much more fun to drive and capable than the competition, and when I test drove the Type R it felt so much more special to drive. For anyone who really enjoys driving, and wants the understated look of the Golf R, go with the manual transmission, unless you are seeking the fastest lap times, but the DSG will still be less fun. If you're looking for the most fun and engaging car to drive in the hot hatch segment then you really need to go with the Civic Type R.
@CHATO629
@CHATO629 5 жыл бұрын
VW GOLF R or GTI AUTOBAHN? WICH WOULD YOU TAKE OF THE 2?
@johnnyparker2128
@johnnyparker2128 5 жыл бұрын
Check the review for that purple Golf R. That reviewer prefers the Autobahn GTI
@flashindapan7965
@flashindapan7965 6 жыл бұрын
You have got to change that beginning jingle.
@wildmushroomfarmer
@wildmushroomfarmer 6 жыл бұрын
Alex, thanks for making this really in-depth review! I just have one question, is the car in this video a manual or a DCT? The reason I ask is because you keep gushing about how much better the DCT is than the manual, making me think that you are experiencing the DCT as you shoot this video, but your 0-60 time is 5.6 seconds, which makes me think you are reviewing a manual model. Other reviews I’ve seen seem to post 4.8 seconds for the DCT model.
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 6 жыл бұрын
It was the manual model, as you noted the DCT is faster
@heyitsme939
@heyitsme939 4 жыл бұрын
They need to make the GTI available in this color. That would look amazing with the red accents.
@freakincrazy6932
@freakincrazy6932 6 жыл бұрын
Have a bmw 340 msport xdrive now. Once lease is up. Highly thinking to pick one of these up and slap it with apr tune level 1
@freakincrazy6932
@freakincrazy6932 6 жыл бұрын
Dct ofcourse. Living in nyc a manual is nightmare; with traffic and parking. Apr tunes make this 0-60 less than 4.0. Monster engine.
@bill7481
@bill7481 6 жыл бұрын
I like the looks of the the Golf R better than that of the Type R or the WRX. But I don't like that it doesn't come with a sunroof or fog lights, hence my preference for the GTI. The Focus RS is probably the best looking of the bunch, though. On the outside, at least.
@EchoSigma6
@EchoSigma6 6 жыл бұрын
I will probably push a VW to 80-90% of its limit around turns but will floor the gas pedal every chance I get on the highway on ramp. Not sure if a GTI with the DCT is a better choice as a daily driver.
@_Mario_PL_
@_Mario_PL_ 6 жыл бұрын
If going DCT on GTI and Golf R, there will be a big difference in speed and feel, manual on both not so much as far as speed goes.
@peabody2884
@peabody2884 4 жыл бұрын
I just drove a 2019 Golf R this evening after driving a 2019 MX5 and 2019 Mustang GT. I was really impressed by the Golf R. My wife drives a 2013 Golf and I have always liked it. But I think the Golf R is over priced. I wish it was a two door. I don't know if I can justify spending 41k on a really fast grocery getter. Bring the price down, add a few more horses and subtract two doors and I am all in.
@BerserkFury89
@BerserkFury89 4 жыл бұрын
"Give me more for less". The pricing of this car is on par with it's competition, and if you include all the features it comes with standard, good luck finding a comparison.
@MrSundayDriver
@MrSundayDriver 4 жыл бұрын
I've run consistent sub 5 second runs at above 5,000 ft. ASL. I'm not sure where you are geographically or who is driving, but this is easily a 4.5 second car.
@cadsux
@cadsux 6 жыл бұрын
I these are all fun choices. It's crazy they're even zippier than V8 sports coupes. I'd pick the Golf R as well, since my daily drivers have been hatchbacks, & I live on the hilly San Francisco peninsula. Having a Civic Type R with an auto & AWD would be nice (& hopefully more reliable), but that's like making a muscle car FWD. Not quite it's character. Then again, there's an AWD Challenger GT.
@MichaelFrancis222
@MichaelFrancis222 6 жыл бұрын
I would buy the manual version of the golf R period.
@Aldiggi
@Aldiggi 6 жыл бұрын
I want to upgrade from my GLI to this so bad.
@thealterego4684
@thealterego4684 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Volkswagen, for the next redesign, would it kill you to offer some interior color for the Golf R other than "funeral black?" I want a performance car, but geesh, why do car companies think performance equals monochromatic black? I would use this for a daily driver, _some_ color option would be nice.
@jeffgao
@jeffgao 6 жыл бұрын
today's video gonna be a little different... of cause, ALEX is wearing his brand tee!
@Elricky124
@Elricky124 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know when the 2019 Mazda CX-9 is coming out? Alex, will you do a review on it. I am anxious to see what improvements have been made.
@Vladg111
@Vladg111 4 жыл бұрын
They really need an automatic transmission option for Civic Type R, not everybody wants to drive a manual. Golf R - can be your everyday commute car + fun on the weekends
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 3 жыл бұрын
Please Honda NEVER put a dct or auto in the type R. HE never complains about the lack of manuals? Once Honda does add an auto the manual will be discontinued.
@KuyaArbee
@KuyaArbee 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god you reviewed the DSG model!
@Ficon
@Ficon 6 жыл бұрын
The biggest demerit of this car is the 19-inch wheels. This is a Golf, designed for 15s-16s. The 18s on GTI are already borderline too big and struggle with potholes unless you have perfect roads where you live. Winter grip is non-existent and minus-size winter wheels are mandatory. I assume the Golf R is even worse. Yeah you can get new wheels, whatever, but a 40K car should not require immediate new wheels and tires.
@ZE4MC
@ZE4MC 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review- however most of the comparison reviews of these 4 cars center on the "driving experience" -i.e. Steering feel, power etc and all of that must be looked at, of course. However part of the "driving experience" are the safety and MMI systems and operator interface. And here the GOLF R is Wayyyy ahead of the Honda and Ford- forget the STI. It is a combination of the Audi center all digital MMI (at a slightly lower resolution that is not a deal breaker.- and an Excellent VW touchscreen system in PERFECT reach and no scrolly ball. Screw the fingerprints on the slick glass- get a micro-fibre and call me in the morning. ALso you can have a screen view of the NAV map up in the all digital center binnacle ALL the time (Shows Traffic in real time too!) and to show around you and you DONT have to use your phone!- meaning your CAR PLAY or ANDROID AUTO is up on the 8" center screen- an absolute perfect blend of navigation, data and music (EXCELLENT, BUMPIN FENDER SOUND SYSTEM BTW) So for an EVERYDAY driver- with the excellent and complete set of driving aids, excellent interior- quietness, more than enough speed- a PERFECT place on the freeway, a winding country road or IN A TRAFFIC JAM! And EXCELLENT AC to cool you in the hot climates. Golf R - hands down best. However- even though the reviewer is ABSOLUTELY correct that this is the perfect DAILY driver. If I wanted a weekend cruiser... hands down the BMW M240 with my favorite the Autobox of course- but can get 6 speed also. That 6 cylinder- excellent seats Power to spare weekend perfection...yes it will cost more- but life is too short..forget the Transformer looking anime Civic or the Golf R. But for an everyday driver, under any condition, tight city or wide open country- the Golf R is as perfect as you can get. But VW for 40k why no folding mirrors? I mean really - it pisses me off and should be standard on this level of car. Many in Tight cities would buy this car, and those mirrors must fold. Id Pay extra!
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