Doesn’t fix the noise. Gotta replace the cam phasers with the updated ones. Lucas is good stuff tho

There is a recall on these now, and my wife usually remote starts it in the morning. I’m going to do the PCM update and then replace the phasers, after that going to get an update tune from whipple 💪

@@L8R-HPfrom what I understand they removed that pcm update it was causing transmission issues believe it or not. They now actually have physically updated the phasers somehow b/c they have a different number on them now.

Yea I got the recall as well. Going to update it with IDS and get a new tune from whipple 💪

Flushes don’t work bro 😂 if there is a problem you gotta fix it. In this case it’s the cam phasers that need to be replaced.

There is a recall this problem. I had a few 5.4 in the past and they had ticking problems. Ecoboost engines are great if you buy new and keep up with maintenance. Lack of maintenance kills them.

There was a recall

My 2018 with 60k miles is making the same exact rattling noise..

@@user-wl5xx9yt8gdid u fixed yet?

@@user-wl5xx9yt8gdid ford cover it or did yo have to pay?

No it didn’t, I ended up changing the cam phasers, still have it, but it will be for sale in the next few weeks.

Bought Fords for the past 50 years - turbos and internal water pumps caused me to buy my first Toyota. And that's sad!

Mine rattled from 36k miles. I replaced everything recently at 85k miles. Cost me less than $400. Did it myself.

​@@L8R-HPdo you have video to DYI

6 quarts

It won’t help, you need to replace cam phasers. That’s what I did recently

Yes. Taught my Buddy how to change the oil on his 2003 Crown Vic. Right below the exhaust manifold on that thing. If that’s not bad enough, when the oil comes out, it drains all over the suspension.

Setting up the dyno and getting ready to build the exhaust on the Vic. Will have a video soon 😎

@@L8R-HP That's awesome, looking forward to that! It's very interesting to watch someone with your skill level take on an uncharted project and not be fazed by roadblocks. It's right up there with that guy who made a Powerstroke Vic.

There is a recall on this issues. Cam phasers need to be replaced.

@@L8R-HP where can I find that recall ??

Did you find the recall?

Was it covered by ford?

How much was it to fix?? Mines doing the same thing.

Do you know what they did for that rattle

Replace with updated cam phasers/ timing chains and tensioners.

You would not have that much HP. Phasers adjust the timing for performance and fuel

I turned my HP up so I choose to use better oil full synthetic.

I spoke with a Ford engineer and he said all turbo or supercharged engines should run full synthetic. He suggested using a heavier oil, for instance 10-40, if the engine was making noise. Although not a fix if mechanical wear was bad. I had the ecm update on my F-150 and it now cranks a bit longer before start up. No noise

Since my last post on this subject 2 years ago, I've purchased a 22 F150 with the 3.5l It came with the new cam phasers and SS exhaust manifold and a few other internal updates that are std issue now. I don't know if the phasers in the 22 150 are the same as the replacement phasers they install as updates to older model 3.5's pre 21. Seems like they would be the same, but can't be sure. It now has about 14k miles. No chain slap. There might be a few micro seconds of delay before ignition. I'm using the syn blend and talked to the mechanics at the dealer who also said, yes, only syn blend. I have been using full syn on all my vehicles for the last 50 years. When I was a aerospace engineer, I worked with several scientists that worked on the original teams that invented full synthetic oil. It was used in Europe for over 20 years before coming to the US. They showed me all the comparison data between non syn and full syn oil and all the methods they used to make the stuff. So I'm a firm believer in full syn even though I only used it on everyday family vehicles that are driven modestly. I understand how superior it is over even the best non syn racing oils. But when the majority of Ford 3.5l motor engineers, that have millions of miles of test data on which oil was best for this 3.5l engine with the new phasers, I have to go with their recommendation of using the syn blend. And I have my theory why it is used in this particular application. @@anthonybrincefield2812

@@ginginthing 80,000 miles on my 2017 F-150,3.5 and knock on wood it lasts. I use synthetic in my vehicles and when I saw the previous owner had used it since 5,000 miles I stuck with it. Part of the reason ,when I had the opportunity , I asked the Ford engineer about Synthetic. He also mentioned that he felt recommended oil changes are too long. 5,000 miles is the limit for me on our vehicles. I should mention that my Harleys have been quieter when I tried a conventional racing oil.

Great data. The recommendations I got from the scientists that developed synthetic oil made a lot of sense to me. Since the oil will not break down under "normal" street use for at least 30k miles, which some people interpret as leaving the filter on for the same mileage, it still collects dirt which we know causes damage. They recommended that the filter be changed every 3k miles and the oil be changed every third filter change, or about 9k-10k miles, just to be safe. That's what I've been doing for 50 years, and none of my vehicles, many of which had close to 200k miles, have had oil any appreciative oil consumption or lack of compression. So for me, syn oil works far better than std oil. As far as these 3.5s are concerned, with the long cam chains that have far more slop than timing gear chains, and are mounted almost vertical, the synthetic oil with it's very low viscosity will fall down to the bottom of the chain when stopped much faster than std oil. Although the synthetic oil forms a better molecular bond to the metal that keeps fiction very low on start up compared to std oil, it doesn't provide a cushion of oil on start up compared to when the engine oil is up to op pressure. So I'm guessing that the Ford engineers had discovered that using the thicker cold viscosity synthetic blend oil sticks to the top areas of these chains and the new cam phasers longer than the pure syn oil does. This helps during the first second of startup to help prevent chain slap. And they might have also modified some of the oil veins leading up to that area to supply more oil on startup. On the Harleys, this same principal might be in play there. The thicker oil (even when hot) might be providing a sound dampener for chains that are incased in a bath of oil. @@anthonybrincefield2812

No🤦🏻‍♂️ need to replace my cam phasers.

@@L8R-HP so if u keep using it and this sound coming in the cold start only .. it will damage anything ?

@@abdalazizkhaled4544 you could use it like that for a long time. It’s just annoying. There is a ford recall on this issues. Schedule your vehicle in and they will update the software and if that doesn’t fix it they will replace the cam phasers

@@L8R-HP they already change the phaser but still there is rattle coming ,i dont know from where but i ask them they told its normal bro its for secounds !

@@L8R-HP Only if you have less than 90K on it. They phase it out at that mileage.

If it runs good and had the recall done I would buy it.

@@L8R-HP thanks for the reply I'm gonna go check it out this weekend! It's a black/chrome xlt max 4x4. Anything I should look out for specifically?

@@geoffnelson64 cold start if possible. That’s when they rattle. Check for codes if you have a scan tool. See if they have maintenance records.

@@L8R-HP from the carfax it says it had cam phasers and engine shudder completed under the "manufacturer customer satisfaction program" August of last year. That's all I'm seeing for major service work

@@geoffnelson64 that’s perfect 👍

I drag race it

Yes. But my car is salvage and at 500hp, lol

Where can you find the recall?

@@user-wl5xx9yt8gdid you find it?

It’s also out of warranty because it’s at 500hp 💪 lol. but parts are only around $350. That includes new chains.

😂🤣

EcoBeast at 500hp 💪

Ecobeast for those that know how to work on trucks and have common sense maintenance.

Sure it is. If you replace the cam phasers 😅

If your car is stock no point