Thank you Dogu!

I got the same bike mate! congratulations. This is my first bike (ever) and love it.

It's a good thing gasket's are cheep.

“good job Triumph “

@@NothingToProve Cheap wrere

Good Job Harry! LOL!

Get both. :)

Hi Leon, thank you! Yes I'm starting to become more and more like you, why handle the weight if I don't have too? Both bikes are nice and they are within around 5kg wet weight of each other, I think the 800 is around 218kg and the 750 around 222kg...if my memory serves me correctly. The BMW is more weight but I remember when I rode those two bikes around the same time last fall and thinking that the BMW felt lighter, it probably has to do with where it carries the weight. The Tiger has more wind protection but you can get plenty of after market screens for the BMW. Also and this is what would be a deal breaker for me with the Tiger 800, the motor does not have much down low torque. That is because the 800 motor comes from the 675cc which was made for street/sport riding, yes the hp and torque are there, you just have to keep the revs up in order to have them, whereas the BMW's new 853cc motor that the 750 has (yea, calling a 853cc motor a 750 is interesting enough) sorry I digress, BUT the nice thing about this motor is it has lots of torque down low in the rev range. So as far as riding, the BMW is more relaxed than the Triumph. Don't have to shift as much but the quick shifter is better on the Triumph, lol, so I can go back and forth all day like this...lol. I like the looks of the Triumph more so than the BMW too. LOL! The best thing you can do is to take each one for a test ride and see which one speaks to your heart. And then none of the things I listed above matter. This is how I chose between the Aprilia Tuono and KTM Super Duke R 4 years ago, I chose the SDR and have never regretted it :) Good luck, ride safe, Scott

Hi Skip, well, first of all they are two different bikes. 800 will do some off-road, XR = no off-road. XR has a focus on SPORT-adv-touring, the XRt focus on middle-weight adv touring. So really depends on what you are looking for? Also the XR is a tall bike, if you are not tall, then you probably will not like it. Power, the XR has almost double the power, so you can see the focus on sport there. The XRt is simply a good road middle weight adv touring bike. The XR is really a different bike, made for the guy that wants to ride in comfort like an adv bike but still have the performance of a sport bike. Hope this helps, cheers, Scott

Hi Philip, thank you! Both pieces come with the XRt model. So no, they were not added, it came like that from the factory, along with the Arrow Silencer. The XRt is the highest spec"d model you can get. Cheers from Germany!

I test drove an XRt here in the U.S. Its a beautiful machine. It doesn't have those parts as stock items. And the Triumph website we access here doesn't show them either. They only appear on the XCa model. Regardless its an awesome motorcycle and plan to purchase one.

Yea, they do that, different options for different countries. :(

Recently bought a XRt in Texas. Came with the skid plate and I purchased the engine guard and fuel tank guard separate. The XCa only comes with the lower guard in the US. All dealerships can provide this.

Nothingtoprove has a very generous dealer for the XRT to include Arrow can, Alloy sump guard and Engine bars unless the specification varies from country to country. A good honest review, however.

Hi Rodrigo, thank you! Size is one of those things that one can get used to, but every day, day in and day out commuting is where size starts to wear on one and that is where the middle weight bikes will be easier over time. At least that is how I feel about it, I commute on a KTM 1290 SDR, so it's not so big but I know guys that do commute on big ADV bikes, rain or shine...so it's really a matter that is up to the individual, do you want to handle a big bike everyday or not. I personally do not want to do that every day...so I don't. The 800 Tiger is a good light weight bike but in the new KTM 790 Adventure will be out next month and I will be doing a review on it, very soon. That bike is even lighter, probably some where around 185kg, so wait for that before you pull the trigger on buying the a bike.

@@NothingToProve Amazing bike the SDR, great taste!That's one of my dream bikes. The thing is that I can only have one bike. Now I drive a supermoto everyday which is perfect for that job. However the lack of wind protection, comfort and luggage make it not suitable for travel, a thing that I would like to do more often and cover big distances. I would do 90% of pavement (everyday commute and most weekend rides) and maybe 10% offroad, when I have the chance. But I still want to have that capability on my future ADV bike, freedom of riding a bike for me cannot end where the road ends. So I am towards a 19 inch front wheel and enough ground clearance. That's why I ask your opinion about the tiger 800 vs the big 1200's category (r1250gs and ktm 1290 SAS, the two rivals for me). If you have some extra advice for me it would be great! And thank you for your patience asking my comments! Cheers

Hi Rodrigo, hmm...it really depends on you, do you want that extra weight or not? Wet weights(gas tank full) = 250kg, vs. 238kg vs. 218kg. or even the 790 Adventure @ around 203kg. So the big ADV, 250kg vs. 238kg or the middle weights ADV 218kg vs. 203kg. Probably the best compromise is the middle weight ADV. especially if you are doing commuting. But if you don't mind the weight and the price, the 1250GS would do everything you want and do it well. But for most people, price does matter (me included) and the weight does too, and power is not everything, and for these 3 things, commuting, trips, and off-road, I'd look at the middle weights: 800 Tiger or 790 Adv.

and forgot the BMW F 750/850 GS...too.

@@NothingToProve The ktm 790 is very light but the thing is that even the normal version runs on 21" front wheel, which will compromise road performance in twisties! Maybe they will do a more road focus variant one day. The bmw 850 is the same problem and it's heavy, the 700 will have an average performance.. On paper the weight difference is noticeable but everyone says that once we get the bike moving it disappears. I just don't want to feel like I have to struggle with a monster everyday I go to work, don't want it to be tiring after some couple of days. I want a flickable ADV bike ( I know I am asking too much and It's always a compromise..) I do care about the price, they are all very expensive but if I buy something and I feel is worth it I will be satisfied, I love motorcycles. Thank you for your feedback, it's important to get it from someone that has more experience than me and had ridden all those bikes!

Riken

Hi Trekky, well, that is not just a yes or no question, there are some considerations before one can come to a conclusion. If I am going to do any off-road, the it's no question, the 750GS is the better choice, suspension and low down torque, but if no off-road then it is a very hard question to answer, since they are both, in my humble opinion, equal on the street, with each having their own pluses and minuses, it would come down to a decision of the heart and not the logical mind. As so often is the reason buying one bike over the other. The XRt really shines on the street with that triple wine and exhaust sound and the chassis so stable and solid int he corners, I believe it is a little better than the 750GS, but just by a hair and only when you push it to track day levels that you notice the difference. If the XRt had more torque and that torque were to be lower in the rev range, then it would be hands down the XRt but it's not, hence the difficult decision. I guess I'd buy the 1090, LOL! STILL! Untill the 790 Adventure comes out next year...hehe.

NothingToProve : thanks a lot for taking the time & words needed to answer & explain well; it’s very appreciated; cheers from Montreal.

The options/features varies from country to country. Everything that came on the bike I reviewed came that way, I asked the dealership before I started the review.