2019 Camaro ZL1 Bad Punk'n - Stock Power vs Headers Install with Tune
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Күн бұрынThis is it people! Florida High Performance now has its very own 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE in Orange Crush AKA Bad Punk'n. Get ready to dive into this journey with us on building one of the baddest ZL1s out there.
This is the first episode in the build series for Bad Punk'n. We're going to do a baseline dyno run with the car to see how much power it makes with just an intake and stock headers. Then we're going to swap the headers for the American Racing Headers Long System and even find a couple of surprises along the way.
Once the new headers are in we'll put her back on the dyno and get some actual numbers, NO BS, working with our friend Matt @mstuningtx. You'll get to see the real deal, how these cars are modified and perform under real-world applications.
So sit back and stay tuned for this awesome ride.
To learn more about the Camaro ZL1 performance parts visit us at flhighperformance.com/
Chapter markers below:
00:00 Start
00:47 About Bad Punk'n
01:42 Prepping for the baseline run
02:31 Baseline Dyno run
03:04 Baseline Dyno power numbers
03:35 Choosing the right headers
04:59 Teardown and exhaust removal
07:59 Exhaust manifold removal
10:21 Factory vs. ARH manifold comparison
11:50 Why you should spend money on quality headers
13:15 What I like about American Racing
14:14 PRO TIP for gasket installs
17:31 Headers and 02 sensors installed
18:10 American Racing Long System
19:59 Installing the exhaust
21:21 Mating the mufflers to the exhaust
23:06 Spark plug replacement
23:52 Cold start with the ARH system
25:51 DYNO TIME!
33:34 Show us the numbers
35:34 Recap and what's next for Bad Punk'n
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@perrymnazjurgens Жыл бұрын
Eric, I so enjoyed this video, your down to earth, straight talk, and coupled with your genuine desire to make our viewing valuable. I typically get so sick of videos with cooky mechanics, bad language is their only language, and not taking a serious approach to their work - this isn't entertainment, it is knowledge transfer with a backdrop of enjoyment. Again, you have the right framework, personality, and best of all we all walk away feeling you gave us something worthwhile. THANKS!!!
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind words! Jarred (the producer) and I work hard to put out quality videos without fluff or wasted breathe so many others have. Data is important to people and that is what we provide! Stay tuned for episode two! Coming soon...
@myhometechguy 6 ай бұрын
So few people understand what horsepower is. Horse power is how much work and engine can do. Torque is the rotational force it produces. You are correct in that torque is what's going to push the car down the road. But it's where the torque is that matters. It's not the crank torque, it's the wheel torque. At any given speed you want the highest torque at the wheel. This is achieved through gearing. An engine that produces half the torque but at twice the RPM produces equal torque at the wheel at the same speed through gearing. Horsepower is simply a mathematical calculation based on torque versus RPM. A higher horsepower motor will produce higher wheel torque through lower gears than a lower horsepower but higher torque motor. For instance, if you have an 1800 horsepower jet turbine engine that produces only 286 ft pounds of torque at 33,000 rpm, if you gear down the rotational speed to 5,000 RPM the torque will be 1,890-foot pounds.
@floridahighperformance 6 ай бұрын
And torque is what impresses the ladies :)
@SwingingVoter 23 күн бұрын
Torque is amperage, horsepower is voltage.
@AllIsWell_22 Жыл бұрын
Just saw this, as a ZL1/1LE owner - well executed video that is full of detail and on point.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the compliment- I appreciate it - check our episode 2. 3 is in the works.
@bigdaddy3927 Жыл бұрын
Really digging the attention to detail and pride in your craft👌🏼 Godspeed with your success! ~🇺🇸💪🏼☮️~
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks- it’s all I know. No one is perfect- but I sure as hell try to be.
@pandabunnypandabunny3034 2 ай бұрын
Such a great video!!! Thank you so much for taking the time to walk through everything. Your explanations & comments add so much value. Sub earned!!!
@floridahighperformance 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@rogerdarbhan5505 Жыл бұрын
Great video and clearly explained. I love your car and it sounds awesome!
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger
@gsheverything_2716 Жыл бұрын
I truly enjoyed every minute of this video, well done guys 🔥🔥👍🏾🏎️
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Man this made my day- glad you enjoyed it. The upcoming episodes will be even better- a lot of mods coming…more in depth engine mods- even a motor swap!!
@gsheverything_2716 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance glad to see you guys live like an hour 30 minutes from PSL, cause I plan to buy a ZL1, definitely I will call you guys when the times come to see what my build up can be, I just follow you guys on IG too
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@gsheverything_2716 we will be here when you’re ready!
@gsheverything_2716 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance yes sir 🔥🏎️
@alejandromenendez7226 Жыл бұрын
Great video like always 🔥 cant wait to see the car in person soon
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@mrduke7465 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for a very good informative video , you have earned my sub, keep it coming
@floridahighperformance 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it...more to come from this build and others.
@joelauer3274 Жыл бұрын
Great video, professional no bullshit, straight to the point, awesome job!!
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe. More videos coming...testing ported vs stock blower, e85, and more. Some guy said I sounded like a "ricer"...LOL! Is that even a thing any more? Appreciate the kind words!
@theponycargarage1453 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Torque is what you feel!
@joeagnoni7112 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Big gains in torque
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video. Episode 2 coming soon- stock blower vs ported blower and e85! Be sure to subscribe
@swisstyphoon1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Eric! Love the Car!
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@robertm2172 Жыл бұрын
Great video I just hit the subscribe button. I’m a little lost I live in California and own the first 2650 6 generation manual transmission camaro. The Edelbrock 2300 was installed way back in late 2016. 4 years ago it was swapped out for the Edelbrock 2650 and I’m loving it ever since. 609/587 and all smog legal. Motor is all stock and 40k miles later all is flawless. that tiny 1.74 Liter is putting in some work I can’t even imagine the charge temps when it on the pavement.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Temps were actually Not bad at all as we did not change the boost output yet. Once we start spinning it harder, then we will probably see temps start to rise under heavy load. We plan on upgrading the HX cooling system and other items along the way as well- and eventually will go 2650. Next episode is coming soon where we test stock vs ported LT4 blower with upper pulley.
@AZIROC Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Awesome video! I just did my headers/exhaust on my 18 zl1 and as much as I heard it was a huge pain in the ass, I found the install very easy. I didn't use ARH, I used Kooks, but as you stated, the ease of install was worth paying extra.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@PhillyDee215 Жыл бұрын
The Tune is everything😎
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Other than proper install- which matters- I absolutely agree- tuning is everything on these things!!
@PhillyDee215 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance 😉
@The73Garage Жыл бұрын
Strong work my friend!
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother Appreciate that
@buffseven Жыл бұрын
Great content 👍🏼
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. heads cam episode three coming soon!
@zackpittala2005 Жыл бұрын
i was your 1000th subscriber💯 (i have a 2022 rapid blue camaro ss 1le and i’m looking to get headers and a tune installed as well)
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Heyyy you sure were! I think that deserves a t shirt. Shoot me your contact info and I’ll get a swag pack out to you. We can also chat on the job and get you a quote! Sales@flhighperformance.com
@bluedog600 Жыл бұрын
So i finally got this done to my car. Stainless works all around. Rotofab and a tune. I got a great video of the tune. Im at 642hp and 694tq. On 9 lbs boost. I love it
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Awesome glad you're enjoying it!
@minni1094 26 күн бұрын
Is your video posted online anywhere? I purchased the Stainless Work exhaust and headers but haven't installed them yet and tips on the install?
@Turbo329 6 ай бұрын
I loved this! My recommendation is to always go with 1-7/8" headers. 2" headers often run into clearance issues. Even with the 1-7/8" headers you need to move the passenger side wire harness away (the one under the coolant reservoir) about 2-3 inches. If you don't your dash will go crazy when the wires start to melt and the car will start throwing random codes. 1-7/8" headers make great power and you don't sacrifice too much of your mid-range (for us track rats who need pop off the corners). I'll be adding American Racing headers to my car in the future.
@floridahighperformance 6 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for checking our video out and sharing your experience!
@jimmyfreeze3782 Ай бұрын
No, as long as you don't buy cheap headers. Stainless works 2". The fit is perfect...Zero touching
@AZMTB Жыл бұрын
Those are REALLY good baseline numbers, they're usually in the 525 range. I have a 1LE as well, it has a AWE exhaust and that's it, kinda starting to get the itch to do headers/intake/cam.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
You think so? I baseline numerous LT4 cars, auto and manual and they're all around 550-570 rwhp/tq. Never had one as low as you say. Either way, gains are gains...whether you baseline at 300, 500, or 5000 RWHP...if you pick up power and tq over that baseline you are good to go! Let me know if I can help in any way! - Erik
@kylehull2207 Жыл бұрын
Mine baselined at 535hp and 550tq. However, I am in Denver. Altitude suffocates it!
@dennismoehr6880 Жыл бұрын
Love it
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words
@jpatrick260 Жыл бұрын
I watch every vid you post huge gm guy. Seems like you guys get a lot of cars done for a “small” shop?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
We are a small outfit- but produce high quality work and yes, we move a lot of cars. 15+ hour days- 7 days a week- and a relentless pursuit of perfection and customer satisfaction have led to this….it’s almost an obsession of mine…thanks for watching we appreciate it very much. Shoot me your address in an email I’ll send a shirt. Sales@flhighperformance.COM -Erik
@bluedog600 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I have an 18 Zl1 1lE. With a stainless works cat back exhaust. I think I’m gonna go down this same route, but I can’t change out my cat back. I think I just need to lead pipes from the headers.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Cool- thanks for watching. Your best bet would either to be buy headers by themselves and have some connection pipes fabricated, OR buy the ARH intermediate system they offer and adapt that to your catback. Message me if you need assistance sales@flhighperformance.com
@bluedog600 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance awesome sir thank you so much for the advice. I will definitely be picking up some ARH Headers and the connection pipes and will message you when need be. Thanks and good luck with the car. 💪🏻
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@bluedog600 hit me up I’ll get ya free shipping
@mjc3502 Жыл бұрын
The roto fab big gulp didn't gain for me.. Swaped it out on a 800hp car thinking it would gain over the 4'', gained 2 hp is all. Paid for a returned and got shit. Took it off and sent it back. Rotofab was shocked it didn't gain. Lol I'm sure they were. I was disappointed because not only pay for a re tune, but a re stock fee as well. All for nothing. Great video.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Good info. That’s really the purpose of this series- to test items like that. I don’t doubt that some items will shine and other won’t- I guess it all depends on the set up. I figure why not test these popular products and just put it out there you know? That way people can make informed decisions when purchasing these products….thanks for watching and thanks for your input.
@weswhittier3216 10 ай бұрын
Just joined , great job on the install, I have a 23 zl1 vivid orange called Angry orange! How long would it take for the average wrench twister to swap out to headers?
@floridahighperformance 10 ай бұрын
Awesome...beautiful color. FIrst time doing it...5-6 hours I would say. Maybe a hair more.
@DMDOGG Жыл бұрын
Damn I have the exact same car on the Gulf Coast :D
@BundyBearMutant 8 ай бұрын
Have the same coloured 2019 ZL1 6 speed in Australia factory converted to Right Hand drive by HSV Completely stock BUILD NO: 341/375
@floridahighperformance 6 ай бұрын
I would absolutely love to see that....send pics!
@chriscraft77022 Жыл бұрын
damn.. first time seeing an orange one.. if i would of bought mine new i would of got that color... but i found a low mile black one...
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Black is mean af though….stay tuned episode 2 is dropping soon…massive massive gains coming
@Trignama1 Жыл бұрын
Careful with these. I bought a 2022 ZL1 on Nov 5. It's currently sitting in a GM shop for the 4th week now getting a complete motor replacement, car has 4,956 miles on it.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Man sorry to hear. It is true- so folks every now and the get a dud engine. Im very very clear when people drop their cars off that these mass produced engines can fail- albeit rare. Wishing you the best of luck!
@Trignama1 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance Yeah, the LT-4 is hand crafted though, it isn't mass produced. Either way, GM is just going down hill, I bought a brand new equinox back in 2014 and the transmission in it died after 50k miles and needed to be replaced. I'll never buy a GM vehicle again in my life now.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@Trignama1 well, mass produced in the sense that they’re not balanced and blueprinted like a custom engine would be from day Late Model Engines- with the most premium parts available. The LT main and rod bearings are junk- I don’t care who assembles it and how meticulous they are. Best of luck man! Still a great car….
@Trignama1 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance funny you say that, because that is EXACTLY what gave out, the rod bearings.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@Trignama1 rods and mains- absolute shit. Had a ZR1 in here, 2019 LT5…killed itself on the dyno- same thing
@lostinawareness7979 11 ай бұрын
Great video, probably the longest I've watched on KZfaq lol. Is it possible to make around 850whp with a 2650 and supporting mods on just 93? I dont wanna go meth or E85 and trying to avoid the whole ice tank for cooling if possible.
@floridahighperformance 11 ай бұрын
Thank you- more vids coming on this build. Did you see episode 2? 850 rwhp on 93 alone is not advised- not enough octane. I made 770 yesterday on a zl1 with 93 only…no meth…no E…no cooling mods. Video drops soon…we test a kong X port to the factory blower
@peterfrias9510 Жыл бұрын
Great video How are the ARH cat system with 1 7/8” headers Are they the green style like kooks and safe for LT4 SC motors
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
ARH catted systems work well, but do have their limitations. Above 800 RWHP, the cats can fail. They're not as high quality as the "green cats" from Kooks, from what I understand. They're plenty safe though for any engine, and I have NEVER in my years had a set of ARH cats fail, even above 800. I hope this helps...
@slimey7054 Жыл бұрын
I have a 17 and thinking about going this route for first set of mods along with some e; how important do you think a good coating like jet hot is to manage heat with these cars that already struggle with heat dissipation
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
It’s a great place to start. Coating the headers will help to reduce radiant heat, for sure. It won’t make much of a difference with respect to MATs or IATs…to be honest. That’s more of a heat exchanger/cooling system deal. None the less- I highly recommend to clients that, at a minimum, they ceramic coat their headers. I prefer silver ceramic…like what JetHot offers. Not a fan of BLACK coatings or Cerkoat…never had good luck with either of those.
@angelcorrea4799 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, and self explained. Congrats. I have a 2021 1SS 1LE, can I make same changes on it and at the end have approximately the same gains on HP & PFT? Thanks.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Angel. That’s my goal- to provide accurate and unbiased info so that folks can make more informed decisions. Yes you can expect the same results- depending on tuning of course and weather conditions/altitude/etc. any questions feel free to reach out!
@angelcorrea4799 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance THANKS A LOT, AND APPRECIATE YOUR RESPOND. BLESSINGS!
@carguy... Жыл бұрын
You will NOT have the same gains, a boosted engine will always gain way more power from headers than NA. More air pumped thru a boosted car so more going thru with opens headers. Either this shop misunderstand you or they are going after your money.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@carguy... you are correct- I actually completely missed that it was NOT a ZL1…my bad on that. Boosted applications will make more than NA no doubt, again sorry I missed the fact that he had an NA car. Thanks for catching that!!
@carguy... Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance no problem!!!
@ronnieowenssr.1419 Жыл бұрын
My car
@rvchipster Жыл бұрын
Wish u were n Charlotte NC. Question, what's the effect on the exhaust selector modes when you mod the exhaust? Is it just disabled? Thanks
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. So my Corsa mufflers have the NPP valve provisions- I simply swapped the valve motors from stock exhaust to the new mufflers- and they function the same. Closed when I want them to be and open when I want them to be. Some exhaust systems do not have the valve provisions, so you lose the adjustability. You basically plug the motors in and secure them up under the bumper
@Highlander1432 10 ай бұрын
Great video The headers actually lower boost but still increase overall power right ?
@floridahighperformance 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking us out. Headers may affect back pressure, which can affect boost, but it's minimal. Nothing a pulley can't fix! Increase as you saw in this video wasn't crazy, but gains are gains.
@Highlander1432 10 ай бұрын
@@floridahighperformance Thanks for replying to my post. Really love the content y'all are putting out
@floridahighperformance 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@maciejswiercz9737 6 ай бұрын
Nothing is better than factory. GM invested millions in engineering so pretty sure they put best of the best into the car .
@floridahighperformance 5 ай бұрын
Not even close...you apparently haven't driven a heat soaked 15/16 Z06 or worse yet...a new C8. TRASH.
@Cembruh Жыл бұрын
What clamps are you using from the header to x-pipe? Have you ever gotten a leak from there?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
The clamps that come with ARH system. No leaks.
@LimoMcG Жыл бұрын
Wow! I am seriously considering the ZL1 after selling my S4. QQ, if you lean out the fuel like you said, does that improve fuel economy? That isn't my main concern just curious.
@floridahighperformance 6 ай бұрын
No, when we lean it out, we it's just to perfect the AFR at wide open throttle...so mileage really doesn't change much...cause you're still flooring it around town LOL...
@oldschool6268 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed ! One question only, If you installed a stage 3 or 4 cam on that set up would you lose all that low end toque?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the subscription! Good question glad you asked. We will be testing this in a future episode. Our custom LT4 camshaft grind complements the supercharger and actually should do a good job of keeping boost pressure in the cylinder and retaining a lot of the low end torque she makes now. We also will change the pulleys configuration to adjust for the increase in airflow from the camshaft. So, any losses from the camshaft should be negated or limited by the increase in boost. I do expect a huge jump in horsepower- that’s for sure. Right now the HP and TQ are pretty lopsided because of poor efficiency.
@oldschool6268 Жыл бұрын
My understanding of the 1740 supercharger is it's at its max on boost, anymore and it's just creating heat.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@oldschool6268 there’s actually quite a bit of room to grow- especially if you port it. Where I see it suffer is on larger displacement engines. It just doesn’t move the air.
@tristanvillar4138 2 ай бұрын
Did you have to modify the dipstick to get it back in?
@floridahighperformance Ай бұрын
No Sir
@illdaddyrod 11 ай бұрын
I have a 22 ZL1 and I bought a rotofab for it. Throttle response seems worse. I went back to stock intake with k&n drop in. Am I imagining things. Car isn't tuned and don't plan on tuning it for warranty purposes. Thoughts why it feels owner with the rotofab?
@floridahighperformance 11 ай бұрын
The honest answer is you’d have to do back to back dyno testing to see actual differences in fueling and airflow with regard to the MAF hertz. You’d also see if you lose or gain power. I posted a video a while back of a blue ZL1 1LE that had this same issue. We tuned it and it was 100% better- dyno results proved that. The Rotofab altered the air flow so significantly that the wot fueling was way off- tuning fixed all that. If the way air enters or exits the engine, it has to be calibrated- period. You can check that video out on my IG page under Florida High Performance. It’s a new blue ZL1 1LE. That might shed some light on your issue.
@illdaddyrod 11 ай бұрын
@@floridahighperformance Appreciate the quick reply. I didn't want to void the warranty with a tune right away. Maybe better off selling it or waiting to after warranty and getting a tune
@floridahighperformance 11 ай бұрын
@@illdaddyrod I understand that. A lot of money these cars are- warranty is important. I always tell people to check with their local service advisors on whether or not a mod or tuning will void warranty. There are ways around it- but if it makes you feel more comfortable leaving it well enough alone that’s perfectly understandable. Happy to help if you ever have any other questions
@jimmyfreeze3782 Ай бұрын
Always go to a dynojet dyno shop if you want the most HP on paper.
@floridahighperformance Ай бұрын
Dyno is a tool we use to measure our progress through the tuning progress. I could give a shit about numbers. Track times, MPH and seat of the pants mean more to me than anything. I had a Mustang dyno for 10 years...read lower than my DJ...who cares, cars were still fast a shit and performed as expected. If you wanna stand at a car show and brag to your buddies about your dyno sheet, then you are in it for the wrong reasons.
@Cembruh Жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m looking to get these headers on my 2016 camaro SS. Would those NGK 6510 spark plugs work on my SS?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Let me know I’ll get ya a good price… Stock plugs would be just fine for your SS. Once you go boost you can change the plugs. I use stock plugs on any naturally aspirated stuff…
@Cembruh Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance How much would the long system to stock npp be?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@Cembruh please email me for a formal quote. Sales@flhighperformance.com
@Cembruh Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance I did!
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@Cembruh hmmm not sure if I saw it- try again today I’ll check my spam- or you can message me through the website
@dominiquehonnebier3134 Жыл бұрын
What wheels are under this car? And was the tire size same as 1LE wheels with 305 front and 325 back?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
They were Variant Forged Xenons...20x10 20x11 all around. Came with the car. Looked really nice but I switched to Forgeline wheels...18's.
@KiwibeeTracy Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video or sound byte after the headers and tune? I am planning to add headers to my 22 ZL1 and am trying to decide if that is enough or if I also need a cam (for sound)
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Did you see the start up and idle clip in this video? If you need more I can get you another clip…
@KiwibeeTracy Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance I saw that, but would like to see another clip please if you have one.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@KiwibeeTracy of course. Email me- I can send whatever ya want…car comes back from Detailer Monday Sales@flhighperformance.com Erik
@sergioduran3545 Жыл бұрын
When is the next bad punkn video coming out!?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Dyno testing is about complete…episode 2 should drop this month!
@hyperdc5326 Жыл бұрын
Does the American racing mufflers sound just as good as the CORSA mufflers?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Little deeper tone- and no provisions for the stock NPP exhaust valves with the ARH system
@gbass7328 4 ай бұрын
How do these clutches handle this increase of 90 lb/ft?
@floridahighperformance 4 ай бұрын
Smooth as silk
@joshuamiller6640 11 ай бұрын
I have 2018 v3 considering the new 3.0l whipple , cold air intake and full exhaust how whp do you think it would be
@floridahighperformance 11 ай бұрын
I have not yet messed with the 3.0. Every time I call Whipple, they cannot provide an ETA on those things. Meanwhile Magnuson is KILLING it with their 2650 - so that is what we go with. Thing works, plain and simple. That being said, larger blower and FBO on 93 octane, say 15 lbs of boost should add 200 RWHP or so to your set up.
@joshuamiller6640 11 ай бұрын
Ok thank you but doesn’t the whipple make more torque down low than the Magnuson
@osos231 Жыл бұрын
I'm taking delivery hopefully soon in a few months of a ZL1. What is used to tune these engines?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
You’ll love it. We use HP Tuners software
@osos231 Жыл бұрын
@Florida High Performance Thanks for the reassurance of loving it. My first Chevy. Just couldn't pass up a 6.2 L Supercharged engine before they go away. Good to know about software, thanks.
@RuintAutomotive 20 күн бұрын
Pretty sure this is my old car. They didn't make too many crush orange zl1 1les in 2019. And I put a corsa extreme on mine.
@floridahighperformance 8 күн бұрын
Bought it from a dealer in the Carolinas. She is in the best of hands...I am the ZL1 guy around here...what better to have this as the shop car!
@LMBC6Brian Жыл бұрын
Too bad your so far from the Tampa area. I’d bring my Maggie 2650 ZL1 down for a tune.
@jsjs-qw3ss Жыл бұрын
What’s the ball park I’m looking at, to do something like this on my 2013 Camaro?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
These bolt on packages start at like 5k parts labor tuning and can go up from there
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 Жыл бұрын
That's incredible. 90ft lbs is cam or high octane gas levels torque. It also means this car was bottle necked from the factory, but why? If emissions are better leaned out then I don't get it. On a road course I would love to know engine temps after these mods? Because GM might have a long running optimal temperature goal? Remember, this motor is stock with no extra boost.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
More boost without improving air flow through the engine will result in greater work on the part of the supercharger which yields massive amounts of torque. Efficiency suffers but the seat of the pants goes through the roof- so on a street car it meets most customers wants and needs out of their weekend street car. Temps are no greater than they were stock…at least on my build they’re not. I attribute this to properly bleeding the HX system.
@Highlander1432 Жыл бұрын
Headers actually lower boost and give tuners a bit more wiggle room
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@Highlander1432 they reduce the back pressure on the exhaust stroke that the engine (and supercharger) have to work against. I’ve tested with and without headers- and at most have maybe seen .5-1 PSI lost- or less. It’s negligible. What we gain is scavenging - which means better flow when you are spinning the supercharger faster than it does with stock pulley configuration
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@Highlander1432 we are still incredibly inefficient with stock heads and cam- I meant to add that in my previous reply . I’ll prove this when we add a cam and heads in the next episode
@Highlander1432 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance Awesome When do you upgrade injectors and fuel pumps ?
@americanassassin001 Жыл бұрын
Yeah gonna have that LME PowerPlant. Smart man. I drive a Charger and I'm about to get me a Gen3 Hemi 1800hp+ rated engine from LME myself
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah better believe it. Funny I have an LME 426 Gen 3 here with a 3.0 whipple sitting atop waiting to be stabbed into my dads 67 GTX. Good luck on the charger build- sounds wicked.
@americanassassin001 Жыл бұрын
@Florida High Performance your doing a build.inwanted to do forever. GTX is one of my favorite Mopars. 68 through 71. I just want a roller body of one honestly cause I want to turn it into a big tire car and throw a procharged hemi under the hood. I figure I'll have to hit up Forza tuning and Performance for their 2500hp waterjacketed Hemi for that if I'm ever able to find a car like that. That gonna be a sick GTX though for real.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@americanassassin001 Awesome!
@ANMIV517 Жыл бұрын
Have you guys done any Magnuson 2650 builds with the LT4? I have a 22 6spd ZL1 that needs some love
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Yes they work well- have 4-5 in the shop now. Bad punkn will also be getting a 2650
@ANMIV517 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance would love to see some dynos
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
We will be posting several videos in the coming weeks...2650's will support well over 1000 rwhp with ease.
@ANMIV517 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance looking forward to it! I’d be interested in a relatively conservative and reliable 93 pump tune with a Magnasun 2650 and supporting mods
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@ANMIV517 it’s simple, really. Install the 2650, determine appropriate pulley combo and tune on 93. With or without supporting mods, it will work well.
@isaguiberteau6532 Жыл бұрын
🎶 p̶r̶o̶m̶o̶s̶m̶
@zachbrown1803 Жыл бұрын
Can you make 800 whp on a stock engine while keeping the lt4 supercharger
@zachbrown1803 Жыл бұрын
And on e85
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Absolutely….episode 2 coming soon….
@plomoplomo6218 Жыл бұрын
Why are the dyno straps loose ?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
They’re not. They’re tighter than snot. They’re HD straps provided with the dyno from dynojet and have some flex to them…I actually prefer the vehicle to move slightly forward on the roller during a pull for better traction
@backnu Жыл бұрын
That pinched filter will rob you of a lot of power. I didn't believe it until it happened to me.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Yeah got a new one on there…
@backnu Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance nice! You wouldn't think a kink like that would hurt - but it's a big deal. Thanks for the response!
@dominicksforza3484 Жыл бұрын
Sweet clip bro, mine baselined before boltons at 530whp. Putting down 640whp conservative with 2.9whipple, tune, rotofab, no cats and headers on 93 octane.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Killer- thanks for checking us out. Go watch episode 2 and see what we make on race gas…thing is crazy
@dominicksforza3484 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, where you guys located??
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@dominicksforza3484 Boca Raton FL
@dominicksforza3484 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance I'm in Delray Beach. I'll see you there.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@dominicksforza3484 def swing by and see us- grab a shirt
@MakingItHappenMWC Жыл бұрын
Matt is still around? Heard he had died. Well, at least he's notorious for over tuning and blowing shit up so. But love this car.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Yes he is. No- he’s very much alive. We’ve not had any issues working with Matt. This is a tough business to be in- you tune 1000 cars successfully no one gives a shit- one breaks and you are notorious for over tuning and blowing shit up. Too bad. Thanks for checking the video out.
@camirocz Жыл бұрын
Any 1/4 mile times and mph?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
I have no plans to run this car in the 1/4. It’s not built for that. I may log from draggy times after the heads/cam are swapped, and eventually when the new 427 engine and 2650 are installed
@camirocz Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance would be curious to see what it runs with these light mods
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@camirocz the platform is horrendous for drag (1LE). If ya wanna drag- a standard ZL1 platform is the ticket for sure!
@kanervatie Жыл бұрын
Is it true, you need headers when going with a aftermarket cam?
@kanervatie Жыл бұрын
...or was it heads. Ok, can't remember. lol
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@kanervatie To get the most flow, which will compliment an aftermarket camshaft, longtube headers and ported cylinder heads are always recommended. Technically, no, you can install a camshaft with stock exhaust manifolds and cylinder heads...you'll just be limiting max output...that's all.
@kanervatie Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance Thank you for your reply.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@kanervatie anytime- ask away
@KawRider1 2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but that car….😅Never mind 😇
@floridahighperformance 2 ай бұрын
I know its a bad mother fucker isn't it?
@mjc3502 Жыл бұрын
What gap with more boost?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
.020-.022 usually - or a colder plug if needed. Future episodes will discuss this.
@mjc3502 Жыл бұрын
I'm adding the ngk 6510 I'm pushing 13.5 lbs. What gap do you recommend? Looking forward to your videos. A friend who also has a zl1 told me about your channel. Gave you a like and a sub.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@mjc3502 .022
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@mjc3502 thank you I appreciate that!
@midnight347 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformanceI'm familiar with the Ford stuff that is a really tight gap for 13 psi. On the older gt500s with bolt ons in the 550 rwhp are around 13 psi they're usually .030-.032 range and my 2650 setup now is at .026 at 19 psi and that seems to be the norm. Why do these cars like so much closer gap? That's odd but cool to see the differences between different models and platforms.
@MikeLeeZL1 10 ай бұрын
22 HP gain seems a bit low for headers and tune.
@floridahighperformance 10 ай бұрын
Baseline was on a modded car- mild mods I know- but skewed none the less. I agree it’s nothing to write home About- but I’d say my baseline was 10-15 more than avg….either way it’s all for testing purposes
@jonasthomschke8888 Жыл бұрын
Why only 550hp? Shouldn't have it 660? Greatings from Germany
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Hello Jonas! 550? Are you referring to the baseline horsepower? The LT4 is rated at 650 crank (flywheel) Hp. They baseline at the wheels 550-570….on avg in the manual
@donotlaugh8883 Жыл бұрын
So why do they say 650 for a stock zl1 if it’s not even close to 650 at stock!?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
650 crank. Not wheel. We measure power at the wheels when we test
@midnight347 Жыл бұрын
You really don't know the difference between crank and wheel hp? You must be new to all this lol
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@midnight347 you directing this message toward me?
@KM_1983 Жыл бұрын
Guessing that this wouldn’t pass emissions test?
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Don’t know we don’t have them
@KM_1983 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Apparently the Austin, Tx. Area requires them. 😔
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@KM_1983 too bad- come down to FL- we’d love to have ya and you can enjoy your race cars
@KM_1983 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance 😊
@anggr4549 6 ай бұрын
Mine spins anyways headers not needed then they will leak in 2000 miles. Tick tic tic tic.....
@floridahighperformance 6 ай бұрын
Yeah traction is always our enemy!
@imurkdotcom Жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of money spent for 25~ hp
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Hey David- thanks for checking out the video. You know, can’t say I disagree with you. Entry level mods on these cars aren’t cheap if you go with quality parts. The cost of tuning is also up there. I guess the torque is really what adds the seat of the pants feel to this car with bolt ons…not the HP. I never really cared about HP on a street car- torque was always what I was after as it’s technically what moves the vehicle from point a to b. Fortunately, as you will see in episode 2, the gains vs cost actually are way in our favor- so it makes up for the initial gain vs cost ratio on episode 1. Thanks for your input!
@midnight347 Жыл бұрын
There is alot more to this than peak power. You didn't notice the torque gain? What about the gains across the entire curve? Not to mention how much better it will sound. Don't underestimate the different headers make. They're needed to get the most out of any combo stock or otherwise.
@midnight347 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention it makes that power at a lower boost level. It's a far more efficient setup. Just looking at peak to peak hp gain only tells a fraction of the story.
@imurkdotcom Жыл бұрын
The peak is down low then it tapers off, and that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a lot of money spent for what you get in return.
@BruceLee-sr2ld Жыл бұрын
I see you're using STD 5 smoothing. SAE 5 is more acurate to real power numbers. Since you profess to be no BS what your using is inflated numbers. Don't take my word for it. There are plenty of reliable sources to support my claim.
@BruceLee-sr2ld Жыл бұрын
In the end though you still are able to show how much actual gain was there
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Just how we have it set up I can show uncorrected- corrected- sae- std- whatever. So long as the baseline and final are the same settings my gains are relative.
@BruceLee-sr2ld Жыл бұрын
Understood...and that's why I added the second comment
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@BruceLee-sr2ld yes sir- thanks for checking it out and commenting- we always appreciate the interaction of our viewers
@tomdaniels3392 Жыл бұрын
Chinese crap? you mean like where that camera is made, you are shooting this video on
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Nah this CAM is GOOD CHINESE CRAP
@Camaro254 Жыл бұрын
You lost me when you said those shit graphite gaskets are high quality, lol. Those are the absolute worst, they blow out and leak either immediately or very soon after. Then your contradict yourself and say that you need to spend the money and buy the expensive headers because of the fitment and then 2 seconds later you explain that you had to modify a bunch of shit on the passenger side, unbolting motor mounts and removing crap to get them to fit,.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
Never had an issue with ARH gaskets specifically. I agree, in general the graphite stuff is junk- I typically use MLS like the stock gaskets. The OEM Gen V LT exhaust manifold gaskets aren’t like the LS gaskets- they’re thin and can cause issues sealing. I’ve not had a single ARH header gasket blow out- ever- in 20 years. Ever. Have I had others give me issues? Yes absolutely. As stated previously, when I can I use GM style MLS- no doubt. But- this application works best with what’s included in the kit. With regard to “contradiction” in the video…you missed the point. I never said you don’t have to move things around to install these (or other) headers. 2” primary longtubes are tight on the passenger side of these 6th gens. What I’m referring to is once they’re installed having issues with clearance…like the steering shaft on the DS. A lot of headers hit that shaft once they’re bolted in. These don’t, nor do they contact anything on the PS (once they’re installed). Having to move parts around to install another part has no bearing on their quality. Thank you for checking out the video and your comment.
@Slicks-N-Skinnies Жыл бұрын
You replaced Corsa with American Racing? Smh. That is literally the dumbest thing I've seen done this far.
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
No, I added ARH headers and x pipe to my existing Corsa.
@ndweb101 Жыл бұрын
@@floridahighperformance that kid has no clue what he was talking about, got your back 🤘
@floridahighperformance Жыл бұрын
@@ndweb101 lol it’s all good I could give a f…happy thanksgiving ✊
@IanMart Жыл бұрын
If you watch the video you would see he replaced the headers and car already had corsa x pipe and cat back exhaust. Hard to see when your head in your *&% though. Derrrr
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