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how about you get them both in manual and then redo this entire video.

The shape of the Toyota 86's stereo unit tells me that Toyota knew the buyer of the 86 will install a aftermarket stereo.

As the owner of an Auto FRS I felt like an uninvited guest watching this video and reading the comments

Honda Civic HDMI Exaust lol

“Bro we’ve got the HDMI cable” 😂

I have a 17 Civic Si as a daily and I absolutely love it.. I don’t live too far from work and I’ll take the long way just to enjoy the ride.

This was just a comparison of automatic vs manual. Why not get the cheaper 86 with a comparable transmission? This whole video seemed pointless

Love the Civic for it’s practicality and features plus it’s a blast to drive and is easier in daily commute thanks to the turbo you don’t have to downshift as often to speed up

I can’t help but wonder how much more fun would the 86 be with the same torque as the Civic Si (an additional 41 lb ft). I like the Civic’s blue paint better than the 86’s blue; it’s less consistently good looking, but has more potential to look good.

I went from an 8th gen Si to two VWs and now an M2. The Si will always hold a special place in my heart for how fun it is for the cost.

The 86 automatic in Standard mode using the shifting Paddles you'll fall in love with the car. Then on the interstate put in in Auto and Drive to save fuel.

Si all the way

Your timing is impeccable as I was comparing these exact cars yesterday! Thanks boys!

My 2019 Brz is my dream car and I bought it for 25k US back in January. Best car purchase EVER! Drives like a dream! (It’s my daily driver and traffic with the 6speed doesn’t suck that bad for what it is plus I can just romp on it once the traffic clears and glide through the gears 👍👍👍

I have a manual Toyota 86 don't even know why I'm watching this LOL

Those Civic Coupe Tailights looks amazing at night.

Got my Si 3 weeks ago and have been watching StraightPipes for about as long (the Type R video from a bit back pulled me in actually) and now they come out with this. Let's just say I am happy.

I prefer the front of the Civic, but the rear of the 86.... Overall I'd buy the Civic Si

You guys are becoming my favorite reviewers. Funny and informative. The side by side speaking is awesome. I got a 2019 Golf R dsg yesterday after watching your stinger vs golf r video

I have a '19 Si sedan, and at 6'3" with 35" inseam I can sit behind myself. And the trunk is huge. Car is the size of a previous generation Accord, yet very sporty and light. It's definitely the way to go at this price point.

I think, unless you're going to be tracking the car often, or you just REALLY want RWD, the Civic wins hands down as a daily driver, even against the BRZ in manual. Just simply 5k cheaper, more torque, better fuel economy (probably), more cargo and rear passenger space, interior amenities etc. If you really wanted a RWD sports car for 35K I would get a Miata ND at that point lol

Such a fun video to start off Friday! I would absolutely love to see more comparison videos like this! (E63 vs M5? 🤔)

Continue your great job guys this is the best Channel i saw love how you work your stuff make me 🤣 excellent content great camera angles Nice fusion together 👍👍👍👍👍

I just picked up a 10th gen Civic Si Sedan. I love it! It's great for daily. It comes fully loaded with everything. If I wanted a Sports car I would of gotten a used 370z and slapped on some bolt-ons for the price of a new (outdated) 86. The car being RWD or FWD doesn't make a difference 90% of the time you drive. Only when you push it to the limits or take it the track is where it matters. Coming from a Nissan 240SX and an Infiniti G35, the Civic Si handles corners like a champ.

Gentlemen!! What a great episode! Good comparison and out-of-the-box thinking. Although I enjoy your usual direct "We're going for a drive"... This real life comparison is on point. So thank you

I love that yall consider more than just stats and that you give multiple perspectives on each car.

Pretty sure the Si doesn't turn off traction completely with just one click. You need to this sequence : 1. Turn car on 2. Parking brake off 3. Press and hold brake pedal 4. Turn traction control on and off 5. Parking brake on 6. Release brake pedal 7. Turn traction control on and off 8. Press and hold brake pedal 9. Turn traction control on and off I've tried this in a 2018 model, which will make the VSA lights turn on and the "off" light blinking. Unless they've changed this in the 2019 model

I would love to se GT86/BRZ vs MX-5 (and maybe vs Civic SI or other small fun cars in that price range)

Filmed in Milton! Good to see some local reviews. Great work guys, love the channel!

I just got the Civic Si a week ago and am really enjoying it. It is really forgiving to people new at driving manual as well.

I enjoyed the reverse speed camera editing when picking a winner. Nice reviews!

I love these videos where you're each in a different car 😄

Great video guys! Loved the comparison. I'd go for the BRZ 6mt as well.

What I like about you guys is that you are having so much fun

This is the comparison I didn't know I needed.

I have a turbo charged 2017 Civic sedan, and I love it. Having SI would be even better!

The 86 had no chance. They didnt drive them hard so the wheels dont make enough of a difference. This is a really poor comparison

I jus started watching this video and I’m loving it already!

17:10 reverse was kinda trippy lol...it's like when you're parked and the car beside you reverses and it feels like your car is moving forward

OMG finally a Comparison Car Review after sooo long!

You guys are fun and joy to watch Imagine a 2019 CRX type R hahaha with rear drive This make the Miata so fun to drive

The 86 looks so much better, but the civic is probably the most fun to drive...either way, both these cars are slow AF for today’s 4banger turbo era...

Daaayyyum the 86's bright aqua blue looks so freaking good. If I could get that blue on the Si I'd be completely sold.

The BRZ automatic gear ratios are more for fuel efficiency than performance while the manual version is more geared for performance (The reason why the manual gets worse average fuel economy than automatic)

Driving the cars backwards at 17:07 lol.......you guys are so much fun to watch. Dork out!

I've been driving a 2013 BRZ 6-speed manual since new. Still love it. Tell us about those overhead drone shots. Pretty fancy flying!

Not only a a Straight Popes video on my day off but including my Si! Nice!

Forgot to mention that the Si's seat goes up and down, for height adjustment. I have the first 10th gen Si (2017) and I'm 6'3"

This is a really good video. Good job guys.

Came back to this video now that I’m 18 and have money to buy a car and a used Auto 86/BRZ is as tempting as can be for a daily, once again cheers for the video lads

I was cross shopping a 2014 BRZ and a 2015 Civic Si Coupe. I ended up going for the Si. They are both super slow compared to what I was used to, but the Si felt faster to me. The handling was surprisingly close between them. I mainly went for the Si because the sound system was better, it would handle better in winter, and it had better space in the rear seats. In both cases, I had the long term goal of Supercharging it, and once Supercharged, the BRZ would probably be a LOT more fun. But I wasn't willing to sacrifice passenger comfort and winter drivability. Plus, something about having the last ever VTEC Si seems special. It has the k24 engine, which is just peppy enough to be fun, and once supercharged, knowing it will maintain that rev happy, VTEC characteristic just appeals to me. I could have gotten a newer Si for pretty much the exact same price, but making a new one make more power would involve a bigger turbo, which would create lag. And that is not what a Civic should be about. Both of them are super disappointing compared to my heavily modified WRX in terms of driving dynamics and power, but I couldn't justify replacing all the shit I kept breaking on that car anymore lol

Love your vids. Owning a '17 SI now, and having owned rwd sports cars, surprisingly the SI is one of the most fun cars to drive. The chassis work is so tight. And yes, sport mode does sharpen the handling and steering noticeably. Since the basic chassis is so good, the SI handles really well in normal mode. That is why you didn't feel the difference right away. One huh? moment watching your review: how did the 86 sound better? Not from the video, where you couldn't even hear it. Not close. Maybe it sounds better live. Not that either car's sound is making Fiat Abarth owners jealous. If they can hear their exhaust over the screaming plunge of their resale values. The 86/BRZ just seems like someone said 'hey, let's build a 280 ZX again.' Which is fine. I enjoyed that car too. And it had less lag from its six cylinder NA engine than the Toybaru twins. If a sports car is ever better with an automatic, then you are looking at a design fail. Great athletes are called 'clutch' players for a reason. Mic drop.

Guys, I'm really curious, what 360 camera did you use for those "aerial" shots ?

the drone work at 15:12 Bravo!!! You guys nailed this video

I always peak to see if 86/brz are automatics. I didn’t know they looked almost the same...

I had a manual Toyota 86 a couple of years ago and I loved it. Btw! Civic "Si" has to stand for "Send it", right?

did I see you guys filming in GTIs around Rattlesnake Point Conservation area a few weeks ago? I saw someone with that same camera set up cruising up a cool little corner by the park that could be the NEXT cliche corner!

I was soo happy to see this 86. i've ordered one in the same trim and color but manual. two more weeks till it arrives

I always prefer RWD, but manual FWD over automatic RWD any day

I've owned my FR-S for nearly 7 years and have never - EVER - had anyone in the backseats. I just don't know any circus contortionists. My Miata has more backseat room.... *crickets*

I was hoping for a little drag race 🤷🏽‍♂️

I almost missed the hdmi cable joke hahaha 😂

Size 13 feet!? You know what they say about big feet... Different pedal preferences

down for up, up for down shifting for the win. love my SMT.

such a fun review format.

How did you get the angel eye headlights on the SI??!! I work at Honda and I've never seen that before!! It has to be from the Touring, right??

On the phone slot, I had gotten my Galaxy S3, the next day my FRS. The phone fit perfectly. The current larger phones no longer fit, so blame the phone companies for that.

Shame I just found this video, my adopted sister just got her hands on a 2020 Civic Si, whereas I got an auto Oceanic 2019 86 GT this past Fall as my first car, in an auto, and I don't regret it one bit. It handles smooth, it turns like a dream, and the only things I've considered changing (or already changed) were the stock "nav upgrade" head unit (stupid idea to put such a slow 2005-era HU in a brand new car, jfc) for a wireless AA Pioneer unit, and a set of Tein coilovers to smooth out the road bumpiness. A great daily for an awful work commute (40-50 miles daily in DC traffic) and for shredding those curvy, hilly rural roads that I take instead of the highway. Only thing I dislike so far is that Audis and Teslas like to pick on me over my "speed" deficiency. I try to pay them no mind, though, let their asses get pulled over for trying to race me, lol. Actually considering the manual if my work commute changes, though. I understand the concept and have applied it in practice, but I didn't want to deal with that in a daily. Great car, even in an automatic, and I hope others see this.

No matter the drivetrain, manual will be my choice

I've been driving a brz for the last 5 years, and sometimes I feel like it's time to go for some other car, but I just can't find the right replacement for it. It's such a good car, and it's really fun to drive. It would be a waste to spend money on something else because for sure I'd regret it !

I haven’t driven either one but the 86 looks so much better than the Civic. But the radio in the 86 looks like someone went to Best Buy and bought the least expensive head unit that fit, that car really needs a refresh. But to me Miata is always the answer.

I've been trying to figure out where this "cliché corner" is! I live in the area but I still don't recognize it!

As an auto brz owner the paddle shifters offer a great experience when you want manual control and chuck it in auto while stuck in traffic. I’ve never had a more fun car to drive!

The price difference 😬. You get wayyyyy more out of the civic.

I'm kinda a fan of the gt86/frs/brz just cause they are the sports car we noticed most people use for drifts

isn't it always more expensive to get an automatic gearbox??

What a great comparison and a great idea. For me it would be FWD manual all the way! As much as I like RWD there is just something about rowing your own gears in a car with a good manual that can't be beat and Honda makes amazing manuals AND Honda knows how to make FWD cars. To be honest, not having a manual is what I really miss from a lot of "modern" sports cars and super cars. It is no accident that I am a FK8 Honda Civic Type R owner. People just need to learn how to drive manual. IMHO I believe manuals also help save lives because when you are in a manual it forces you to focus on driving and to use both hands when you are driving. I can't tell you how many people I have seen texting or using their phones while driving automatics. You just can't do that in a manual. If Honda stops making manuals it would be a huge loss to the automotive community.

Would the verdict be the same in Manual Type R vs Automatic base Supra?

Love when you do these comparison videos!! Civic Si

You guys need to do a manual vs DSG Jetta GLI review!

Love the lighter blue on the 86 since it reminds me of my FAVORITE color, Grabber Blue on Ford Mustangs. Not quite as vibrant, but still a pleasing color.

What would you chose for a ~30k car that is fun to drive and has good tech (dynamic cruise, good infotainment, etc).

Weirdly enough, the 2019 BRZ has Apple Carplay/Android Auto even on the base car. 🤔

I love my Si , Team Honda !

GREAT review/comparison. I had thought of picking up an 86 manual before leasing my 2019 hatch sport. Agree with pretty much everything you said. btw, the civic would have to be hands down the best winter car, and we do all live in Canada.

Eh I went from a 5 speed manual to a auto FRS and it’s a ton of fun. Sometimes I get auto, sometimes manual, just depends on what I’m looking at and how it feels. The auto FRS saved me $10k, I got it for so cheap, and it’s a blast I love this car by far my favourite car I’ve ever owned.

That 86 infotainment tho

My 09 Civic SI was a great little car, with the factory "aero kit" and 6 speed Manual, car had clean simple lines. Not a bunch of plastic up front. Also not a fan of the taillights, I think the SI gets uglier every year.

I absolutely love the blue on the 86, i wish i had gotten mine a few months later ):

Manual Si or automatic 86? The answer is - manual BRZ! happy BRZ owner here lol

Hey YURI... the PROWLER SHOULDA HAD A 5.7L HEMI AND A 6 SPEED! I do love the PROWLER.

How about RWD manual!

I bought the 19 civic si sedan, hands down the best choice I've made

I literally have a 2012 V6 accord coupe 6speed, and I plan on getting a auto FRS soon, love this

I think I need to move to Canada. I love the fact that there are so few cars on the road. Where I live in south Florida, any time of day or night we have way too many cars on the road. I'll keep the Florida weather though. . .

I thought I was the only one thinking of this comparison. Thanks guys!

I've been driving my 2019 Si for over a year and only now do I realize my sun visor extends.

" touch to open and push to star " concerning the door handles leaves me confused. I'm a senior but I did not think I was that out of touch with the English language. Can you explain the " push to STAR " please? Other her than this I think you 2 are a breath of fresh air and mostly right on with your opinions and your choices for your subjects.

They're lowkey beefin with automatic transmissions😂