Review | 2017 Honda Civic Si | Tuff Enough to Tickle the Fickle

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savagegeese

savagegeese

Күн бұрын

We review the next evolution of the Honda Civic, the SI. With heavy competition from the likes of Ford, Subaru, VW, Mazda and Hyundai, Honda is no longer the king of the Sport Compact segment. The Si offers affordability and great economy, however, will that be enough to be the best in class?
Civic Review:
• Review | 2017 Honda Ci...
SavageGeese is:
Mr. Goose - Nail Brush Tester
Scott Turbowski - Lemons Pro Driver
Index:
0:00 - 3:55 Exterior Impressions
3:55 - 8:00 Interior Impressions
8:00 - 13:50 In the Shoppe with Turbowski - Underbody Impressions
13:50 - 14:00 Curb Weights and Balance
14:00 - 16:11 Under the Hood
16:11 - 22:33 Driving Impressions
22:33 Final Thoughts

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@802Garage
@802Garage 7 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who actually appreciates cloth seats! Leather isn't always the answer! I love a good set of cloth or sport cloth seats. They can feel better, last longer, and even look better.
@kadie1414
@kadie1414 7 жыл бұрын
802 Garage ya i love cloth seats. Even better with heated seat option. Leather is a joke here in AZ yet anytime you want the high end engine they force you to buy leather seats. Annoying
@rudfil
@rudfil 7 жыл бұрын
If opt for perforated leather seats you won't feel hot and sweaty as regular leather seats plus leather if you look after them can look good after many years and they won't smell or get soiled like cloth seats.
@kadie1414
@kadie1414 7 жыл бұрын
Rudy F most times only one version of a leather seat is offered by an automaker. Most times its not perforated. Leather burns, must be maintained like a baby. My cloth I dont do anything to maintain them and after 9 years besides fading from sun they look brand new. Comfortable immediately upon sitting on them in all weather.
@terranova_irl
@terranova_irl 7 жыл бұрын
kadie1414 my choice, if possible and normally an extra is Alcántara.,👍
@802Garage
@802Garage 7 жыл бұрын
I will say I like the leather interior in my Eclipse GSX... but the awesome 80s cloth interior in my MkI MR2 definitely beats it.
@garypatterson6462
@garypatterson6462 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 SI, i love it, best car I have owned and I am 62, never too old to have fun
@drepop803
@drepop803 4 жыл бұрын
haha nice. I plan on driving manual til im old enough to be able to legally drive lol.
@nmarkert01
@nmarkert01 3 жыл бұрын
My fathers 70 in 2 days and he loves mine haha
@tww1491
@tww1491 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 80 and drive a 17 Si. Before that I had a S2000. Driven manual most of my life.
@TheStraightPipes
@TheStraightPipes 7 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@asifalimirza
@asifalimirza 6 жыл бұрын
After buying the 2018 Si in June and driving it almost 2 and half months, I have to say this is an amazing car. I have done several trips back and forth between Northern California and Los Angeles, and this thing flies, doesn't matter how steep the inclines or curvy the roads. After driving a 2006 Camry SE V6 for the last 13 years, it took some time to get used to the 6 speed manual, and other than the infotainment system which I hate, I love this car. One thing I have to say, this is a car that rewards you for pushing hard on it, but when you have to drive it normally the young speed demon in you starts screaming and wants to break out. On the freeway I am always hitting 80 mph plus without realizing it, I know one of these days I am going to get a ticket, and that is when I wish I had just bought another Camry....
@scraps0233
@scraps0233 5 жыл бұрын
@Mirz_786 any mods done to it yet? K tuner does wonders on it!
@jimmydaves
@jimmydaves 6 жыл бұрын
I watched this video before I bought an Si (coupe) and I watched again after owning the Si for a month. I have to say that your review is the most accurate review of the Si on KZfaq. Spot on!
@mrorionfan1
@mrorionfan1 5 жыл бұрын
It was very very informative on so many aspects!!!!
@paulscillia1274
@paulscillia1274 5 жыл бұрын
It's been a while. How do u still like the SI?
@MinhVu-in9iz
@MinhVu-in9iz 5 жыл бұрын
jimmydaves nothing against the si, but you should just go for it and buy the type R!
@HiMyNameIsJonathan
@HiMyNameIsJonathan 5 жыл бұрын
Minh Vu the type r looks ridiculous. I have the 18 si sedan in black 100% stock and I love it. One of the most fun cars I’ve ever own
@MinhVu-in9iz
@MinhVu-in9iz 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Fernandez that’s awesome, I’m happy for you!! Yes, the type R is very aggressive for sure but if the sport and si model wasn’t so close in performance that I would have regrets if I wonder if I’m missing out on so much fun!! Too bad the Si doesn’t have 240 horse power, I would totally buy it!
@ErwinSchrodinger64
@ErwinSchrodinger64 7 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know, yesterday while walking the dog, it started to attack some geese. I stopped him and yelled at him to show some respect. That's how much we respect you around here, Savagegeese.
@savagegeese
@savagegeese 7 жыл бұрын
+ErwinSchrodinger64 hahaha thank you for that!
@youngboyharless9769
@youngboyharless9769 6 жыл бұрын
savagegeese your reviews are great man. I'm thinking about getting an Hfp Si in black at the end of the year. Your review may have just sold me.. Do you think this car would've been that much funner for you if you had Hondata / intake /exhaust?
@deleon0927
@deleon0927 5 жыл бұрын
@@savagegeese how did you get your name out of curiosity?
@youngalwyn1124
@youngalwyn1124 5 жыл бұрын
ErwinSchrodinger64 - I think you made that story up.
@sveddish
@sveddish 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah why wouldn't you tell your dog not to attack other animals?! Smh
@garrettj412
@garrettj412 5 жыл бұрын
This video gave me the confidence to buy my 2018 civic si and I love it. Thank you
@Theuf28
@Theuf28 2 жыл бұрын
I am looking to buy one now, how is it still holding today?
@benjaminschneider1997
@benjaminschneider1997 7 жыл бұрын
Savagegeese's reviews are so refreshing. Humor, honesty, and great production. Love it.
@giff74
@giff74 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the foot cam on your corner shifting! I just got my first manual car in years and it's so hard to get a good heel/toe worked out. Also, great point about the Si being an everyday car, not a race car. Keep up the great work!
@scottkanerva
@scottkanerva 7 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2016 Civic Ex-T a year ago before they announced the SI. I obsessed over the SI for nearly a year, until my local dealership finally got one, and I said screw it and took the plunge. What an upgrade! I just turned 40, and only now have I become interested in cars thanks to something called a "mid life crisis". I was just cruising KZfaq watching reviews of my new penis extension, when I came across your content. Not only did you righteously affirm my love of my new car, but I found your delivery and knowledge to be top notch compared to anything else I'd watched. I will definitely be recommending your channel to anyone who will listen. Keep up the good work.
@breezyjayy8062
@breezyjayy8062 5 жыл бұрын
At first I thought that penis extension thing was weird. But now idek after this guy commented 🤦🏽‍♂️😂
@abrahamg3354
@abrahamg3354 5 жыл бұрын
@Shuffle3956 Let me know too, I'm not in my 30s, but it may come in handy later on.
@AzuraiAeon
@AzuraiAeon 5 жыл бұрын
i have to agree. alot of YT car reviewers end up having a hint of subjectivity. this felt objective. and it was a nice change of pace
@LGPanthers1
@LGPanthers1 5 жыл бұрын
I've been lovingly driving my fully stock 08 Si since I was 16 from 4.7 miles on the odometer all the way to 147k (first and only car), and I've not felt the urge to buy another vehicle until I started to see how glowing the reviews are of this new generation. I don't need a hauler, I don't need 400 or 500 horsepower, and I certainly don't need reliability questions. All I can say is, I went last week to test drive a 2018 and it gave me a warm, bubbly feeling. The seating position, the position of the shifter and pedals, the sightlines, the throws, they all were wonderfully familiar. There are sure differences both mechanical and electronic, and I do strongly dislike the fake mesh work on the front and rear, but that emotional feeling is something that nothing's going to be able to match for me. I was incredibly pleased with how well the return to form panned out here, and despite my misgivings about Turbos, styling features and some other nit noity issues, it just felt good in a really intangible way. Honda has made it incredibly tempting to slide the 8th gen into the secondary role as a second car and enlist the 10th.
@mackenzieconnell
@mackenzieconnell 7 жыл бұрын
Epic reviews... this guy is my new favourite car reviewer... so knowledgable, so honest and so genuine, going to have to go back and watch his other reviews! Keep up the good work sir.
@asifalimirza
@asifalimirza 5 жыл бұрын
After a ton of research and looking at lots of reviews (including this one), in June 2018 I bought a Civic Si. I completely do not regret it. Some of the annoyances of this car, such as not so smooth shifting, throttle response off the line and turbo lag etc. were easily fixed. Ktuner with Two Step Performances stage 1 tune fixed the performance issues, changing out the OEM Manual Transmission fluid with Amsoil Synchromesh made shifting and the transmission extremely smooth, and upgrading the shifter rocker with an Acuity Rocker upgrade reduced the gate spacing making shifting tighter and brought the gears closer together. I recently added a performance exhaust, so basically spending a little over $1000 completely revamped this car bringing it to a level that Honda probably should done as default
@kevinnorris6558
@kevinnorris6558 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, the shifting isn’t smooth? Honda’s are very smooth in my experience but I’ve never driven an Si.
@snail415
@snail415 4 жыл бұрын
By chance do you know if Amsoil offers something for CVTs? I’m at about 45k on my ‘16 and need to pull the trigger on the 7-quart swap.
@xTWISTED_WAYZx
@xTWISTED_WAYZx Жыл бұрын
@@snail415 just in case someone runs across your question, the answer is yes. I used it and was impressed it did the job, but to hard to find around my area so I went back to Hondas fluid. That cvt went almost 250k miles ( think it was 235k)when it went .
@omegalamda3145
@omegalamda3145 7 жыл бұрын
I have an base 2006 A3 Hatch 6-speed I've owned for 11yrs. . Someone ordered it and backed out. I got it for the price of a golf when 2007 came around and no one would buy a manual car. I've test driven the 10 gen twice & am impressed w the total package, price is amazing. I'm jumping ship on the A3 for this new Si! Btw this is the best Si review I've seen yet. The only one Ive subscribed to. Total gearhead flavor. Thanks for your work Savagegeese you nailed the overall " best of all past Si's driverness" of this 10 gen Si. I felt same on my 2nd solo test run. Btw A3 2.0t was engine of the year for 5 years in Germany before imported into the states. It was put into the Gti in 2010. 0- 60 6.7. The new si 1.5 t is the A3 2.0t only bullet proof. It should the jewel of an engine mr. Honda would be proud of, as designing small engines with efficiency of motion, inherently built in, was his forte.
@BrashAdventures
@BrashAdventures 6 жыл бұрын
This review was a huge help in my decision to buy the new Si. As a fellow S2000 owner, and previous 8th Gen Si Owner I appreciate the info and take on the new one. Having had it for a few weeks, I will agree that it's probably the best Si ever made.
@rextex7018
@rextex7018 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought the SI...awesome package for the price...and I love the styling. Test drove a 370Z, WRX and GTI and the civic is the one I kept going back to for every day driving fun and livability. GTI was a close second but I already have a Golf (and the problems that come with owning a VW). I also think the GTI is so boring although very capable. Thanks for all the great reviews.
@syedlink27
@syedlink27 5 жыл бұрын
Rex Tex Are you still happy you bought the Si over the GTi and WRX? I'm in between these 3 vehicles. I keep going back to the Si because of Honda reliability/resale value and the fuel MPG numbers...
@burningknuckle26
@burningknuckle26 4 жыл бұрын
Good choice. Its awesome bang for your buck
@kevinnorris6558
@kevinnorris6558 4 жыл бұрын
syedlink27 If you’re planning on daily commutes and practicality, the Si is great. The WRX is nice but it definitely chugs fuel and overall reliability is suspect (I own one). If you live in a heavily congested area, you may find the Honda a lot more manageable to drive in traffic when compared to the WRX. I’ve never driven a VW, let alone a GTI so I can’t help you on that. I know your comment was 8 months ago but just wanted to chip in.
@802Garage
@802Garage 7 жыл бұрын
"Theodore, why are you cherry picking awkward angles? Well it's because I can. I'm making the video." Hahaha, yes!
@maximus9401
@maximus9401 7 жыл бұрын
That was one my favorite lines for sure lol
@battosaijenkins946
@battosaijenkins946 7 жыл бұрын
@savageese, Hey man I also agree those vents are soooooo freakin' ugly and it's like on the back too why? In fact, it's this reason along with no LED front headlights in USA that's preventing me to buy it. Perhaps next refresh they will~ =(
@daltonelliott5447
@daltonelliott5447 7 жыл бұрын
That line earned my sub lol
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 7 жыл бұрын
the coupe rear vents look much better
@505enthusiast4
@505enthusiast4 7 жыл бұрын
Dalton Elliott I like his reviews I sub to
@matthias4037
@matthias4037 6 жыл бұрын
Such a unique way to review a car when the underside quality is so important. Kudos!
@mr.speyside5240
@mr.speyside5240 7 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most genuine reviews I've ever seen. This guy tells it like it is.
@deanchur
@deanchur 7 жыл бұрын
Love how you point out the stuff that other car reviewers skim over or skip. I'll be looking for a new car in the near future and any car that screws up the HVAC and audio volume is instantly off my list. The driver should never have to take their eyes off the road so the manufacturer can make a "cleaner" cabin
@luv2machine
@luv2machine 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. I'm 52 yrs old and probably don't fit the usual profile for this car. I was looking for an economical commuter car that has a "fun" factor. This car has exceeded my expectations. Reminds me of my 2005 RSX with a more useable torque curve. It's the perfect blend of modern tech, sport, and economy.
@RodofAllTrades
@RodofAllTrades 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to amp things up, get a Ktuner from Two Step Performance and a cold air intake from 27WON. You will NOT be disappointed! How's 255 HP and 295 LB-FT sound? It hits the mpg's for an average decrease of 1-1.5 mpg. (for me) I am 47 and this may very well be my mid-life crisis, LMAO! I bought my 2018 for all the same reasons as you did, but did some research and discovered a true wolf in sheep's clothing. It IS effortless. Oh, and don't forget the leather wrapped shift knob at 27WON Performance. No more burning the palm in the summer!
@1976Cordoba
@1976Cordoba Жыл бұрын
Dang I had my '05 RSX for 14 years, sold it last year and miss it, and now I'm looking at used Civic coupes haha. Nice to know someone else is having a similar train of thought. Oh, and I am 54 - certainly not the typical Civic buyer lol.
@darealestwon
@darealestwon 11 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more. I’m a soon to be 50 year old who used to have a 2000 integra gs-r it reminds me a lot of it, particularly the way it shifts and handles, except there’s much more power lower in the rom range
@darealestwon
@darealestwon 11 ай бұрын
I also like how the sedan only weighs 17 more pounds from the coupe, so I can still feel sporty yet have more practical room
@dwl.5193
@dwl.5193 5 жыл бұрын
I have had my 2018 Si coupe for 9 months now. I love it. For me the fuel economy + fun ratio was important because I drive a lot for business. I am averaging 37 mpg with about a 70/30 highway to city ratio. As an older buyer, one of the reasons it gets criticized was why I actually favored it... a quiet engine. If you are driving a lot you don't want to hear noise all the time. I personally love the styling from the side and front and the coupe is for better in the back. In terms of driving, it is super fun. Rhis car loves to turn at speed. I go out of my way to find the curves. Storage is great in the center console. Personally, I don't care about the volume knob, but I do wish I had waited for the the parking break fix in 2019. It is hard to know if it is on. Overall, this car has made me a Honda enthusiast. It is clear they listen to their customers and pack in value for dollar.
@JamesAnderson-fw5ew
@JamesAnderson-fw5ew 2 жыл бұрын
In the city, it should be good for mid 40s
@st4xor
@st4xor Жыл бұрын
Just re-watched this. Still spot-on all these years later. Continue to appreciate my 10th gen Si going on year #4 now
@FC3_RIPPER
@FC3_RIPPER Ай бұрын
Any mods or tune or just been running it bone stock all those years? Only wondering bcuz im considering it on my 2018 i got 8 months ago lol
@pabauza
@pabauza 6 жыл бұрын
The Dellaplane reference is brilliant and fkn funny. The honest and direct reviews are very much appreciated too.
@dannoyes4493
@dannoyes4493 7 жыл бұрын
Thank God you're back - You could have reviewed the 2018 Chevy Polyp and I'd be here, hanging on every word. Score - 10.0 P.S. - Not that epoxy flooring or track lighting isn't exciting...
@BrashAdventures
@BrashAdventures 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for the review. Definitely helped me in my decision to purchase a new Civic Si.
@paulshoultz9706
@paulshoultz9706 5 жыл бұрын
I bought my 2018 10th gen because of this review. You were truly fair with about the whole thing and I appreciate the honesty.
@JacobMueller
@JacobMueller 7 жыл бұрын
One of the few channels where I consistently watch longer videos from start to finish. Still loving the reviews.
@ryanmoyer1
@ryanmoyer1 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a vehicle that Turbowski actually liked and got excited about hahah
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 7 жыл бұрын
Porsche!!!!
@Elusive25
@Elusive25 7 жыл бұрын
Ryan Moyer not gonna happen lol
@kadie1414
@kadie1414 7 жыл бұрын
Hellcat
@trebors386
@trebors386 7 жыл бұрын
He gets excited over a turbo PT Cruiser
@motopolak
@motopolak 7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Lexus RCF.
@P51
@P51 7 жыл бұрын
Mr Goose: I own the 2017 Si Coupé. You're dead right about the parking brake, seat heater on shift, and volume knob. I'd add that the clutch action is a little funky. The seats ARE awesome. The LSD is killer. The vehicle dynamics are great. Mine doesn't surge in fourth gear--It seems I'm always in that gear around town. I can cruise the freeway all day long at 80 mph and 40 mpg. Watcha gonna say--Haters gonna hate. I'm really impressed by this car, and relieved you like it as much as I!
@nartin86
@nartin86 6 жыл бұрын
I also own a 2017 si coupe. I drive like a mad man in town, and do 80mph on the freeway all the time, and still getting 34 mpg. This car is unbelievable. Doing the same thing with a GTI and you would be looking at 20 mpg and a trip to the car shop every other week.
@larphraulen
@larphraulen 6 жыл бұрын
How do you guys feel about the rev hang? Does it cause the car to lurch forward a lot on 1-2 shifts?
@nlong8438
@nlong8438 6 жыл бұрын
I own a 2017 GTI and with a roof rack at 80 mph I get 33mpg. I'm not sure what reviews or biased internet forums you've been reading, but GTI's are extremely efficient. Oh and its wayyyyyyyyyyy more reliable than my focus ST. That thing was at the dealer every two months. With a roof rack I could never get more than 27 mpg with it. Lay the rear seats down flat in the GTI and you've got almost a truck bed of storage space in the back. Open your eyes man, the GTI is phenomenal as is the new SI. I'm glad Honda finally discovered turbo chargers. If the SI was more of a true hatch, I would have considered it more. Love the blue paint.
@motorcitymanman7711
@motorcitymanman7711 5 жыл бұрын
@@NeightrixPrime Gal I used to work with had a 2012 tC, she hated it, it was at the dealer with problems more than she drove it.........
@pianodemon109
@pianodemon109 5 жыл бұрын
@@motorcitymanman7711 probably a lemon. My 2012 scion tc is at 100k miles with ZERO problems since I drove it off the lot at 5 miles. Now im looking to upgrade to potentially this si or a wrx but I can't make up my mind.
@platinumjack1723
@platinumjack1723 4 жыл бұрын
This is the review that pushed me to buy my 2018 Civic si. Thank you for your awesome reviews you savage avian.
@Illmatic662
@Illmatic662 7 жыл бұрын
Bro your explanations of how you feel about a car, is fantastic. It's just as good as some of the best reviews I've ever seen, so glad I subscribed.
@ZephyrCorsa
@ZephyrCorsa 5 жыл бұрын
His monotone voice and dry humor are the best combo💀💀 "3lbs of skin and dust" lmao
@slashbashin
@slashbashin 7 жыл бұрын
I left an RCR video to watch this. Thats how you know I was excited.
@RRR-jd2oy
@RRR-jd2oy 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought an 18 SI and I have to say that your review is by far the most genuine and on point. I pretty much agreed with everything you said, if you're looking for an honest review on the 10th gen SI this is it. Good job
@whiterx3786
@whiterx3786 5 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say this was a great review. First video on this channel I've watched and I'm now looking into getting one
@AJTalks
@AJTalks 7 жыл бұрын
4:49 Lol thats why I love this channel (besides the bomb reviews)
@Sam-vs5kg
@Sam-vs5kg 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Johnson good way to test the back seat when you are car shopping lmao
@gaspump
@gaspump 6 жыл бұрын
They truly sneak something like that into every video if you're paying attention. Best part is you never know what it's going to be. Humping the front passenger seat from behind... playing "Farting In The Wind" in the SRT8 (visible on the infotainment screen)... or exclaiming how well a trunk can hold all the luggage, camera cases and dildos you can throw at it. Best car review channel is best.
@samk4065
@samk4065 6 жыл бұрын
Cringiest shit I’ve ever seen
@jakerz1185
@jakerz1185 6 жыл бұрын
Sam K its only cringy if you have 4 brain cells.
@paulaydinian4160
@paulaydinian4160 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Johnson mmm
@clemsonpatriot5656
@clemsonpatriot5656 7 жыл бұрын
I don't regret buying my 17 Si at all.
@davidb8831
@davidb8831 6 жыл бұрын
Clemson Patriot are you 17?
@zaitcev0
@zaitcev0 6 жыл бұрын
How tall are you?
@christianspear6322
@christianspear6322 5 жыл бұрын
Are you handsome?
@Namesi
@Namesi 5 жыл бұрын
Are you high right now?
@Namesi
@Namesi 5 жыл бұрын
Do you ever get nervous?
@stefanod8360
@stefanod8360 7 жыл бұрын
I'm still in awe why you don't have more subscribers. Production value is outstanding. It took me a bit to get your sense of humor. I'll support you on Patheon
@j_bird27
@j_bird27 5 жыл бұрын
This video was one of the reasons I bought a ‘19 SI. Thanks man!
@leatherneck75
@leatherneck75 5 жыл бұрын
i bought the 2019 civc si sedan model in blue, love it so far.
@summerofpie
@summerofpie 5 жыл бұрын
This review helped greatly in making a '19 Si coupe my daily driver. Plus I got the ultimate compliment from my 13 year old nephew, who asked me to pick him up from school, specifically so he could show off and say to his friends "Gotta jet. My ride's here." Thanks!
@MS-ux3id
@MS-ux3id 5 жыл бұрын
wtf never seen a better car review on youtube.. you actually lifted the car too !! Subscribed
@dlegair9
@dlegair9 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought my ‘19 Si, volume button included lol. This review pushed me to get it and I’m happy as hell. Now all I need to do I wait a couple thousand miles and the mods will begin 😁
@arjund.4817
@arjund.4817 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only one that finds these oddly soothing
@lastwhtknight3002
@lastwhtknight3002 3 жыл бұрын
I find it very soothing to watch hrs and hrs of SavageGeese.
@Slowyourrollvarietyshow
@Slowyourrollvarietyshow 3 жыл бұрын
Therapy for sure
@802Garage
@802Garage 7 жыл бұрын
Not doing a Type R? I'm impressed. Looking forward to this. Good to see you. #360pSquad
@ToxicHorsePucky
@ToxicHorsePucky 7 жыл бұрын
802 Garage It turns into a Type R at 1080p
@larphraulen
@larphraulen 7 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet but I have been waiting for your impressions of the car - compared to any other KZfaqr/journalist. Looking forward to it!
@MegaHollywood1971
@MegaHollywood1971 5 жыл бұрын
That was a very understandable review. Agree with the quirks you pointed out and your overall synopsis. Totally honest....
@splewy
@splewy 7 жыл бұрын
I know everyone on the internet hates the styling of the new Civics, but I've owned a Civic hatch (Sport Touring) for a few months now and I've had a ton of people actually come up to me and compliment the looks of the car. Usually it's something like "That's a Civic? That's really sharp!" Granted, that is not at all why I bought the car (I thought everyone IRL would hate it as much as the Internet would). I think it just goes to show that maybe us car enthusiasts take things a little too seriously sometimes. Yes, the fake bumper vents are stupid, but to the average person, they make the car look cool and give it a lot of character that is missing in more humbly styled cars. I liken this car's styling to the Fast & Furious franchise. Yes it's over the top and stupid, but I like it anyways.
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 6 жыл бұрын
splewy I agree. Aside from the bug rear "vents" the overall look of the civic hatchback and coupe are fresh and sporty.
@malakius
@malakius 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The car looks a hella of a lot better in person.
@andreyvillones5318
@andreyvillones5318 5 жыл бұрын
YES! I have a 2017 coupe Si and I get several questions like “that’s a civic??” I love how sometimes it attracts some older gentlemen that are more biased towards cars from their generation at cars and coffee.
@malakius
@malakius 5 жыл бұрын
@@andreyvillones5318 I've been asked many times if that's a Civic, regarding my SI.
@YasumotoUS
@YasumotoUS 5 жыл бұрын
The hatch, IMO, has better proportions than the SI in sedan form, considering the bumpers (both front and rear).
@jax1079
@jax1079 7 жыл бұрын
The sixth gen... Oh yes. That was my high school life in a nutshell. F bodies and Civics with mad subwoofers in the trunk... I'm in the nineties all over again. That said, I'm in the "dig it" camp when it comes to the Civic's overall styling (but I completely agree about the fake intakes/vents). Great review. Really digging the style you've carved out with your channel.
@HiMyNameIsJonathan
@HiMyNameIsJonathan 6 жыл бұрын
JAX same here bro I worked at blockbuster to save money for my 99 civic si in HS. Those were the best. Single deck pioneer CD player had all the ladies in my ride back then :D
@fredboy007
@fredboy007 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving an honest and thorough review, as always.
@mbvideombvideos7096
@mbvideombvideos7096 7 жыл бұрын
I gotta say I love the foot well camera footage!
@asifalimirza
@asifalimirza 6 жыл бұрын
So after owning the 2018 Civic Si for a month now, I have to say that this is an amazing car. Here are the pros: sporty look Comfortable and spacious seating Lots of storage space, spacious trunk Thought out interior design Super responsive 1.5L engine 6 speed MT amazing handling and cornering very quiet engine (for being so small) Now the cons: removal of buttons for simple tasks put into the Infotainment system annoying notch sound when shifting into second and sometimes 4th ECU interferes when accelerating hard off the line My biggest complaint is basically the same complaint I have for all new cars. Why the hell do you take away the buttons and knobs for the AC and radio? If I want to adjust the fan or the AC settings, I have to go into the climate screen and make those adjustments, which can be distracting while driving. I just want a fricken button or knob, like in my 2006 Camry. I don't mind the screens for other functions such as adjusting certain functions or for my backup camera, but for stuff we do everyday, there should be buttons and knobs, or just knobs and buttons! Other than that, this is a pretty awesome car that is fast, responsive in the lower RPM range, and rewards you for going hard without sacrificing to much gas mileage. I took it on a trip between the Northern California bay area and LA, and it was comfortable to drive, did not slow down a bit on hwy 152 and the Grapevine (those of you who live in California know about the Grapevine!) and easily kept up with the big boys like the Charger and Mustangs, and surpassed them on the curvy roads of hwy 152 and the Grapevine!
@KagemushaRonin
@KagemushaRonin 5 жыл бұрын
Hecker pass is where I test my 2018 civic Hatch. Gotta say it loves the turns. HWY 17 is even better. I couldn't believe how fast I could go on those turns to the point I was keeping up with BMWs and Porches going at least 80MPH My next attack is on HWY9 and HWY35 and HWY84 I'm sure the Si handles a little better than my hatch but I'm having tons of fun and getting amazing MPG all around.
@mr.tuckers2848
@mr.tuckers2848 4 жыл бұрын
Mirz_786 I couldn’t agree more. Those are the best roads in the Bay Area to put this car and it’s engine to the test. I can’t wait to get one myself except I hate all this Honda sensing crap that’s being put on the new 2020 models. When I get one, the first thing I’m going to do is get a Hondata and disable the infamous “Rev-hang” issue. Next mods will be a PRL intake then a nice MAP Catback or MagnaFlow Exhaust.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.tuckers2848 the stock SI exhaust flows and sounds pretty good.
@AmanRajput01
@AmanRajput01 7 жыл бұрын
Designers took sleeping pills.... LOOOOLLL I DIED
@Keffus1965
@Keffus1965 6 жыл бұрын
My first time watching one of your reviews. great work! Subscribed!
@Rb-sg5zi
@Rb-sg5zi 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the intimacy began in the back seat. Love your cannel guys
@johnnysok9355
@johnnysok9355 5 жыл бұрын
Love your Channel bro, was thinking u should do review on a 2018 Honda Accord 2.0t in manual.
@topspin4hand
@topspin4hand 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it has a great FWD chassis, sufficient power, and good economy. Doesn't really get much better at this price point.
@kosta2177
@kosta2177 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all great reviews that you guys are doing
@jimreeves5476
@jimreeves5476 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect analogy! I have a 2020 Si and love it. Bought it based somewhat on your opinion. Great job!
@AlumarsX
@AlumarsX 7 жыл бұрын
I wish the Si came as a hatchback. The Sport hatch is MUCH better looking.
@Devan0329
@Devan0329 5 жыл бұрын
Omar Carrasquillo agreed
@XxUltimateGodzXx
@XxUltimateGodzXx 5 жыл бұрын
Very subjective. Sport hatch looks like a lob sided blob to me.
@tr0llbuster292
@tr0llbuster292 5 жыл бұрын
Also very subjective. Si may be faster and is more so for the track than the sport, but it has an HDMI exhaust, but I do like the wing. though. Lol. Besides, most Si owners from what I've seen are salty mainly because the sport hatch and Si look so similar interior and exterior and there isn't as much "exclusives". But the Si has power, suspension and shifting. Not only that, the color tonic yellow pearl can also be found on the regular Civic coupe minus the power. On the Sport and Sport touring hatch, they both literally have the same tires 235/40R18 while most of the civic line is at 215/50R17 or 215/50R16. And on the Civic couple, the rear is the same while the hatches are different in terms of the "fake" vents. I have the sport hatch, but of course the Si is better, not because of the looks, but because what it delivers in terms of performance. (And because of the infotainment system). With the Si, you're getting the best of everything. On the sport especially, you're actually limited on the infotainment system, but that depends on the driver.
@tr0llbuster292
@tr0llbuster292 5 жыл бұрын
@LastRaven So... you nit picked out one point out many points I made? Lol. I got you. 1. That was an observation [I personally have seen which is subjective] from people who also own Si's. 2. But does that mean ALL Si owners are salty because the sport hatch and the Si are the same even though it says "most"? Obviously not because it doesn't state "all". 3. You many not care but that doesn't mean other Si owners don't care and vice versa. 4. This.. is.. all.. subjective.. mate.
@KagemushaRonin
@KagemushaRonin 5 жыл бұрын
Omar Carrasquillo I very much agree. Honda really fucked up by not making a Si version of the Hatchback. I mean with a few mods the Hatchback isn't any different than the Si in my opinion. If they slapped a Si symbol on the Hatchback Sport I bet you everyone would be buying that hatchback instead of the lame sedan. Thats why they didn't make a "Sport Injected" version of the hatchback.
@leonwaltemate6152
@leonwaltemate6152 10 ай бұрын
Love my 2019 SI Coupe ( 30 lbs. Lighter than the sedan).
@garetht1236
@garetht1236 7 жыл бұрын
This video sold me. Subscribed. Well done Sir.
@teemohnay
@teemohnay 6 жыл бұрын
Epic review. Subbed. I just bought the 2018 si sedan and love it so far.
@brianfru1025
@brianfru1025 7 жыл бұрын
Those so called " vents " are probably one of the ugliest add ons to a car. Not a fan of it at all but overall the civic is a great car
@jeffreymoore4132
@jeffreymoore4132 7 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Those tack on pieces are right out of the Pontiac styling elements catalog of the 90s. The Fire bird did the same thing and folks hated it then too. I'm honestly curious as to how these design elements get okay'd.
@802Garage
@802Garage 7 жыл бұрын
Literally RICE. Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements. I'm fine with some factory styling to look fast, but I cannot stand form that doesn't follow function at all.
@MrFoof82
@MrFoof82 7 жыл бұрын
Rear vents, and it's neither mid-nor-rear-engined which are the only cases where they'd possibly be functional.
@em1ownerify
@em1ownerify 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Fru seriously. I was in the market in early 2015 and wanted a si because i was selling my 2000 civic si but test driving it and just looking at it i couldnt stand that front end. Its so ugly. Happy they styled it alittle less ricer aggressive but im happy i went with my 2014 gti. Should have been a no brainer though for me since i get paid to work on my own car under warrenty lmao. Honda needs to fix their shit man...they lost it. The honda accord coupe was the best but they got ride of the two door. So stupid
@felixianto
@felixianto 7 жыл бұрын
This is what differs this car from other boring shit, this is the best design ever made, depending from what perspective you look at it
@doctorferdinand1003
@doctorferdinand1003 7 жыл бұрын
The 10th gen chassis is definitely the best handling civic platform we've seen, but the motor is just so bland. The soul of these cars was always the ultra responsive, high revving motors. I really can't imagine these chassis improvements are really worth sacrificing the thing that made sporty Hondas so enjoyable.
@crispinsugita9398
@crispinsugita9398 7 жыл бұрын
If you look at the old Integra Type R or Prelude SH's, the chassis was equally (if not more) important. There's a reason why those cars were heralded as "the best handling FWD cars ever." They had great chassis with independent suspensions. The 10th gen has a great chassis with an independent rear suspension like those old cars. You can't add an independent suspension in the after market. What you can add is power.
@carlmanu
@carlmanu 7 жыл бұрын
+Crispin Sugita adding power does not necessarily add character. I wish they would've kept exhaust vtec on this engine. The same way they did with the new type r engine
@fatboy19831
@fatboy19831 7 жыл бұрын
The Integra type R was an Amazing car. It holds up well even today.
@doctorferdinand1003
@doctorferdinand1003 7 жыл бұрын
The key to the DC2 Chassis is far more complicated than simply being IRS (every si for the past 2 decades has also been IRS), but I see your point. Chassis dynamics are important, especially if you're talking about something like a type R. But the soul of a performance Honda is in it's motor, particularly when we're talking about Si's which historically have been much more about their motor than their chassis. The issue with this car isn't power, it's character. The car is only slightly slower than the previous two generations, but it's missing ALL of the character. There has been no shortage of good handling FWD cars for the past 20 years, and that's especially true today. Honda's offerings have often been slower than these competitors but Honda has always delivered an extremely special feeling, frenetic power train. With this advantage ceded, Honda is competing in a field of other DI-T cars that handle well with no defining attributes to elevate this Si. Sure, the car handles better, but with it's distinguishing feature removed, why buy an Si over it's competitors that also handle very well?
@fatboy19831
@fatboy19831 7 жыл бұрын
Good point.......I find it hard to believe that the new Si is a better all around car than Even the Fiesta ST.
@UltimaRSfan
@UltimaRSfan 7 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up before watching. After watching, wanted to give another thumbs up. Excellent review!
@paulstabin6233
@paulstabin6233 6 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are a class act, a must see for me. Have a blue 2017 SI sedan and 10,000 miles love it. The issues I have- rev hang and pedal spacing can be fixed(Hondata and Accuity). The handling, braking and everything else are already there.
@silverturd4421
@silverturd4421 5 жыл бұрын
Put a sock on the shifter like you did when you were younger! Haha
@chickendinner5572
@chickendinner5572 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to sell my Lancer Evo to get one lol. This is what I have been waiting for Honda to do all my life. A turbo sporty economy car with a lot of tech!
@Kenneth1350
@Kenneth1350 5 жыл бұрын
Your going to sell your lancer evo for a 10th gen Si? are you serious and this is coming from an 8th gen Si owner.
@kevinnorris6558
@kevinnorris6558 4 жыл бұрын
Kenny_Fa5 I’m looking to trade in my 2018 WRX base for a 2020 Si
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 4 жыл бұрын
bro what is wrong with the Evo? Those things will always be #1 legendary
@austinsingvongsa3126
@austinsingvongsa3126 2 жыл бұрын
Save up get both. Those Evo’s are icons. They’ll probably go up in value someday just like any other old jdm car.
@frankpavan7865
@frankpavan7865 5 жыл бұрын
Goose, nice work your are an original with a sense of humor ....Love it!!!!!
@tonywencil8450
@tonywencil8450 7 жыл бұрын
Best car content and host on the youtubes. Keep it up!
@jamesdunn2054
@jamesdunn2054 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review. As I grow into my 40s, I tend to agree with this review. Gone are the days where I am going to mod the crap out of a car, but just want something fun, something with a lot of power down low, and something i can tote kids in. I don't want to have to rev the hell out of it to get power like the old Si of yore. The adjustable dampers, the LSD make this the perfect FWD car in my opinion. The lack of manual ebrake is almost a deal breaker though. Can't decide between this and a WRX. Hmm.....
@grahamwhite9138
@grahamwhite9138 6 жыл бұрын
James Dunn My friend has one, and I️ agree, it’s a good car, but I️ feel like it has no life to it. It’s to emotionless, the engine sounds very bland. But that’s just me
@IaMaWeSoMe7478
@IaMaWeSoMe7478 6 жыл бұрын
Wrx hands down then you get AWD..
@alejandro9rojas
@alejandro9rojas 6 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, which one did you end up getting?
@hawkgaming3029
@hawkgaming3029 6 жыл бұрын
I vote get the SI, do an exhaust swap and a vit viper tune and suddenly your in love for very little money
@p9r4ex8dyk
@p9r4ex8dyk 6 жыл бұрын
Civic Si is one of the better economy cars out there
@carcrazysammy
@carcrazysammy 7 жыл бұрын
Another supurb review. Keep up the great work!
@jmf_5
@jmf_5 7 жыл бұрын
Would love if you could do an 8th gen Si video. Your attention to detail and no bs approach is very very refreshing. Hope you get many more subscribers mate !!
@PipeOPhile
@PipeOPhile 7 жыл бұрын
The rev-hang is unforgivable. And I love Honda.
@wonkydada
@wonkydada 6 жыл бұрын
Leuff a tune fixes that easy
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 6 жыл бұрын
Not Honda's fault. They have to comply with regulations. They aren't the only company doing it
@jameswilson3272
@jameswilson3272 6 жыл бұрын
From everything I have seen it is because of the dual mass flywheel. It is worse at high rpm for sure. I have to granny it to rev match or say screw it and shift to the next gear fast and take some clutch wear. Low rpm it is much better.
@JanMichaelFranklin
@JanMichaelFranklin 7 жыл бұрын
I think the Si should've been released closer to the release of the standard cars. It's hard to be excited about this car with the Type-R coming at nearly the same time. Everyone needs to take notes from Porsche on these release schedules.
@savagegeese
@savagegeese 7 жыл бұрын
+Jan-Michael Franklin I agree, all Civics should be setup this way. I dont see it as an Si.
@JanMichaelFranklin
@JanMichaelFranklin 7 жыл бұрын
savagegeese 90's Honda (You know, the company that had big balls?) would've done it that way!
@scottkanerva
@scottkanerva 7 жыл бұрын
Worked on me though. I ate a little money and upgraded. Don't regret it one bit.
@benitodeluna970
@benitodeluna970 Жыл бұрын
Very detailed and thorough review, great job!
@monGaleForce
@monGaleForce 6 жыл бұрын
This is great stuff, great review. I min even stuff I didn't know I wanted to know u have covered...
@1lifeonearth
@1lifeonearth 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree, i think the car looks beautiful. the new accord also looks amazing.
@maximus9401
@maximus9401 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, honestly I didn't expect you to like this as much as you did. I honestly thought that owning a 6th gen civic and an S2000, you'd really not be a fan. Most people talk about how uninspiring and dull the motor is. I didn't like the way this thing felt so "unwilling" to rev out. The sound was uninspiring and the power felt like an on/off switch. Either you made decent power in the midrange going full bore or you made nothing below ~3000. It didn't feel sharp to me like previous N/A motors. Shifting with the rev hang became not so fun because of the rev hang and the boost cutting out between shifts. I think you made a good point about this being one of the best Civics ever made (arguably), but I don't think it's one of the best Si's ever made. It's a good Civic for sure. It's a good Civic Si-lite, so to speak. This is what the Sport should have been, but as an Si, with that badge comes along a series of expectations and heritage for engaging driving experience that Honda used to do so well. I think it hasn't achieved that in this car, but they made a damn fine Civic in it's own right. So bottom line, I think it's a great Civic but not a great Si
@savagegeese
@savagegeese 7 жыл бұрын
+maximus9401 I 100% agree, its the best Civic. On paper and for real it bests the previous gen in terms of refinement, fit and finish, quality, safety, efficiency, speed, performance. But the new Si is not as fun as the previous gens. Old Honda is dead, gone. Its sad but true and with modern cars its becoming all the same, eco turbos. Now, this car feels more sterile than it should and I think thats what people hate. But I think Honda is trying to give it personality, its not a snoozer. About the only cars with more zest are the fords. I find the 6th gen Si more fun and Id rather own that but if someone was looking for a new car this Si is good for what it is, modern Honda Eco fun car.
@vaskyappliance6144
@vaskyappliance6144 7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos bro, especially the undercarriage. I enjoy watching you & Scott carry on about stuff & all the goofy things that he comes up with - little fans, lol! I actually like the styling of the new Civic sedan. Those big vent things on the Si look good on the hatchback, but not so much on the sedan. It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. For some reason the styling makes me feel the same way I felt back when the 1982 Toyota Supra came out, which was Japanese styling at it's finest. The tacked on fender flairs were ridiculous, but it worked. It was awkward, different & challenged your thinking - same with this Si. I saw a pristine 84 Supra just the other day & it looks better now than it did back then...
@MCHellshit
@MCHellshit 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2020 Si and saw this video. They fixed almost everything you complained about and its pretty much perfect!
@NoNeXiStEnT007
@NoNeXiStEnT007 5 жыл бұрын
I love my 8th gen I'm never giving it up
@universaldragonninja
@universaldragonninja 4 жыл бұрын
I love quiet cars. Ive owned a 2004 Acura tl and i fell in love with how quiet and refined it is while at the same time being able to haul ass. I never find myself wishing i had a blaring loud car.
@paulstabin6233
@paulstabin6233 6 жыл бұрын
13,500 miles since last August on my '17 Aegean Blue Si sedan and no issues. Your review is spot on. I find that mileage on highway or longer in town trips is better then claimed, but way worse on very short excursions under 3 miles I screwed up and missed getting it with the summer tires. Trying to wear out the all seasons but the damn things won't die. Handling is still amazing so can't wait to see what this chassis wtill do with good summer tires. For the money there really is nothing else that does so many things right.
@willyd4850
@willyd4850 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review aa always!
@zroger73
@zroger73 7 жыл бұрын
1. The purpose of the small opening on the front passenger vent isn't to let air IN - it's to let the sound of the horns OUT. 2. Pulling UP on the electric parking brake switch and activates the parking brake just like pulling UP on the handle of a mechanical parking brake.
@savagegeese
@savagegeese 7 жыл бұрын
+zroger73 Except you have to have your foot on the brake and there is delay in actuation and release if you dont hold brake long enough. If I want to pull brake I cant, have to get in car and put foot on brake. Fine for auto trans not so much for manual.
@cardigansrule
@cardigansrule 7 жыл бұрын
you shouldn't use the parking brake anyway unless it's parked on a steep hill. leave it in 1st or 2nd gear. or reverse if the car is pointed down hill. using the brake can warp the rotors or make the brake pads stick to the rotors, especially if you are using a more aggressive compound.
@stebecinc
@stebecinc 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I have found this to be a nuisance. I have a 17 hatch sport. This is my first Honda. We will see in 3 years if it is replaced with another Honda. I wished the hatch sport had more power and the Si brakes and suspension. It wasnt out when I was looking for a vehicle. Seems cheap in some areas. No gages. Thats stupid. Our 16 Focus hatch sport has more but cost less. Except for the horsepower/torque.
@scottkanerva
@scottkanerva 7 жыл бұрын
Is there any good reason to use the parking brake? I've just been parking mine in 1st like I always have...
@alansmilealot
@alansmilealot 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Kanerva so your car isn't using the transmission to hold itself in place, I rather wear out a cable than a transmission
@lamlangthien3882
@lamlangthien3882 5 жыл бұрын
i just ordered this 10 mins ago. Hopefully i made the right choice
@fer428000
@fer428000 7 жыл бұрын
Best review to date you deserve 1m views man
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 7 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are the best because your not bought and paid for by anybody! I currently own a Fiat 500 Abarth and could easily see myself in one of these down the road. I previously had a CRZ (6MT) and 2010 Fit sport (5AT) and I always felt like I was driving quality with some fun built in, this new Si ties everything together. I know I would upgrade the tires to say Conti DWS06's and add a decent exhaust and K&N typhoon intake like I had on the CRZ and FIT and call it a day! Keep up the good work, it's much appreciated!
@savagegeese
@savagegeese 7 жыл бұрын
+Klasse Act The last gen Fit is a great car. Needed an extra gear though. The CRZ would have been great if they had a non hybrid option. I never got to drive the HPD supercharged model. The Abarth is fun, this car has less personality but better all around. Good car choices. Let me know what you go with.
@Simon74
@Simon74 7 жыл бұрын
They should have made these vents like 10cm deep to make them even look close to legit...
@zollotech
@zollotech 7 жыл бұрын
After seeing the engine when the civic first came out, the mess under the hood and the problem they had with the piston wrist pin clips made me decide that they cheated out or didn’t care.
@driveri1435
@driveri1435 3 жыл бұрын
When the civic first came out? You mean this one?
@DBPrins
@DBPrins 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! Great review as always
@aclark106277
@aclark106277 6 жыл бұрын
new to the channel. love the content man. good humor mixed in with a serious review
@Martenjr3
@Martenjr3 7 жыл бұрын
Hey there savagegeese. A couple months ago if you recalled I asked if you could get a type r to review. I really appreciate you doing the si model. I really wanted this review as well but I am curious to hear what you think of the type r.
@savagegeese
@savagegeese 7 жыл бұрын
+Serenade Blue Its on the schedule.
@Martenjr3
@Martenjr3 7 жыл бұрын
savagegeese that's awesome man
@gamer420life4
@gamer420life4 6 жыл бұрын
savagegeese any chance of review on 2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T ?
@Chase-yg5no
@Chase-yg5no 6 жыл бұрын
where do I get a SavageGeese hat?
@los_fc3184
@los_fc3184 4 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel your reviews are awesome accurate and funny. I picked up my Si July of 2017 and enjoy every drive I’m currently on a e35 tune using Ktuner and it’s at another level.
@ThePinoyMamba
@ThePinoyMamba 6 жыл бұрын
I watch the whole thing... Thanks for an awesome Review...
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