What they did wrong here was not putting water in between the houses quick enough to stop the other house burning.

I think it's more than just a training issue. From watching the operator look around then put on his glasses after they're yelling "Yellow speedlay!", it's clear that it's also a work ethic and performance expectation issue, too. From what I've been able to gather the last I checked, this seems to be more of an issue in Pennsylvania than most states, due to a lack of state mandated training and oversight. The state does offer training, but mostly leaves the decision on training and procedures to the fire department, itself. It's possible that things could be changing. But, at least then, they could just be like, "So, you want to be a fireman?" "Yep." "Ok, here's your helmet, turnout gear, and pager. Congratulations, you're now a fireman! See you at the next call."

I am sorry to say, I agree. Sad to see.

Equally as obvious, you don’t know the difference between an engine and a truck. ;-)

1, These houses are over 100 years old. So in fairness, if this was not in a "working class" town, they'd likely have been removed decades ago. 2, Not everyone has the luxury of acreage. Theses look like old "company houses" (built by coal companies to house miners) Mt. Carmel,PA is in "coal country". The idea was to put as many houses as possible on a plot of ground. These ain't Suburban McMansions with lush grounds ffs.

Eddiecurrent2000 then you don’t understand firefighting 101.

@@Totaro17 What's the point of risking three fire fighters to vent a structure which is barely in need of it? Just simply bad practice, or just dick waving.

Eddiecurrent2000 because I am sure they are venting for firefighters inside, fighting the fire. That’s the point of venting.

Eddiecurrent2000 how can you say it doesn’t need ventilation. we don’t know the conditions inside that house.

@@Totaro17 Then why are there FFs in the house? Are they saving people? If not, then what's the point? An exterior attack would suffice if that was the case, or are FFs lives worth less than the structure? And in any case, it looks pretty good from the outside, but hey, thousands of fire fighters around the world do interior attacks without having their colleagues vent the structure, so what's the point here?

Get yourself a good optician, it's written PA on their trucks.

It would freak me out too!!!

You have to understand that there are two types of people that comment on these firefighting videos: Those that fight fires on a daily basis, both career and volunteers. They are the ones that simply watch the video and move along or offer constructive criticism, and, at times, yes maybe even trash talk, but in a respectful manner. Then you have those that troll fire videos looking to pick apart every possible thing that in THEIR OPINION was completely wrong. They are far more prevalent. Those people like to bash their supposed “brothers” saying they need more training, they have no work effort, they’re too slow, this and that, everything they can possibly find to criticize another department(s) and/or member(s) is fair game. There are a few on here that you will see in every comment section making the same comment(s) on every video they watch. Now I can’t lie, I do have to agree at times with the aptly named “armchair chiefs” because those are all fire service realities. I’ve sat and scratched my head plenty of times wondering what the F@&k are they doing? I also won’t lie, and will admit I have left a not so nice comment here and there also. But as you noticed, at times it gets outright disrespectful to people that have never met and never will, and have never worked together and never will. Even firefighters from other countries get in on the attack. So the brotherhood does exist between the firefighters that truly respect each other and are “in it” for the right reasons. For the rest it looks good on t-shirts and stickers and when it makes them sound good around other firefighters, but behind closed doors or keyboards they only have themselves in mind. And in reality, their departments are more likely not any better than the ones they trash here in these videos. These comment sections are the perfect place for people to profess their fire service expertise and opinions with out the worries of anyone ever finding out who they really are or their true fire service experience.

The green truck does carry water. The driver just had no idea how to pump which is a story in itself. In the US the only trucks that may or may not carry water are ladder trucks. Its very common for departments to have a " quint" which has a pump and a small tank. Generally smaller departments will have a quint since the amount of resources are limited and they need that functionality. In metro areas you will be hard pressed to find a " quint" and the vast majority are strictly ladder trucks.

Steve, I suspect that the green fire engine #3 carries anywhere from 500-750 gallons of water.

In Holland every truck carries up to 2,500 litres of water and has 2 what we call high pressure lines directly connected to the pump to get the wet stuff on the red stuff within a minute.This gives the rest of the crew about 15 minutes to set up the external water supply or for a tanker to arrive on the scene. Maybe it's time for US Fire Departments to invest in the more useful smaller European trucks that can handle everything that's thrown at them.

In Holland I’m willing to bet you also have to connect your hoses on arrival like most other European trucks. The only trucks that don’t carry water are specialized apparatus that mainly perform duties OTHER THAN fire suppression.

The standard truck in Holland and other European countries have 2 pre-connected so called high pressure lines. So no faffing around, real out the lines, fire up the pump and within a minute or so there's wet stuff on the red stuff. In the mean time the rest of the crew sets up the external water supply. Trucks equipped with the heavier rescue equipment (cutters, spreaders) also carry water. Areal platforms and ladders are fed through the pump of a truck.

Safety alarms for the firemen.

martin jeffery Yes there are codes. But old houses are not required to be updated.

21st century codes are damned hard to apply to 19th century buildings, smh.

There seemed to be a lot of confusion and standing around 😕

Painting a whole state is just silly talk.

The US isn't even 250 years old. They built the best country in the world out of the materials they had access to. As time goes by, more structures are built with fireproof materials. That's why US and European firefighting techniques and equipment are so different.

Arson

Read the "drop down" it'll tell you what happened!

MICE WITH MATCHES

These are the people who join the American Fire Disservice. It should answer your question. I was a Third Generation Fire Fighter. A Real one. 1. People who don't want to Work for a living. 2. People who want to live off the taxpayers without having to Work for a living and get a pension after they put in their 20. 3. Insecure people who want to be Instant heroes in the eyes of the public Just for Joining Up, Dressing Up and Showing Up. 4. People who couldn't possibly make anything but a fast food wage but of course, they wouldn't have them because they don't want to work. 5. People who care but they are dreamers of Bravery and Heroics and when it comes to work, they have no work ethic at all let alone a strong one. 6. Anyone who can do the job left real quick after they saw who they would be working with. I'm talking about the OFFICERS First and Then the Fire Players. Welcome to the real world of American Fire Playing.

A lack of training and a lack of measurable standards for tasks. For instance, our department standard is 1:30 to deploy an 1 3/4" line and flow water once the apparatus arrives. This includes stretching the line and donning of the SCBA.

@@JB91710 Yeah right. Any applicant who displays any of the traits you mentioned would not make it to our academy, let alone graduate.

@@lindahoff7391 They have you fooled. Who do you think the people are who decide who becomes a firefighter? Plus, how many applicants provide the information I listed? Ever hear the phrase, "Tell them what they want to hear."? Do you know how I know I am right? 50 years supervising humans at that low end of the employment scale. Breaking windows and squirting water? Real challenging. It is for the 95%ers!

@@JB91710 I doubt it. I decide who becomes a firefighter at least as part of the hiring process and training. Breaking windows and squirting water. Hmm yes we do that too, along with para-medicine, tech rescue, ARFF, wild land and dive. I f someone is lucky enough to fool their way through the orals boards, psych profile, poly graph and written test, they will never make it through their rookie year. It is a shame that you left the fire service, assuming you were a firefighter, with such a bad taste in your mouth. It most likely will remain.

Good ol Misty is already out of jail an living her fabulous drug life!

Watch 10 years of these and you'll find that 95% of American fire players have no clue what the JOB is.

Mt Caramel,North Walnut St aka Clover Hose

BEST COLORING I'VE EVER SEEN!

Awesome color green,love it.

Robbie Delgado thanks

@@jaredfreeman5484 ,no problem its my favorite house of the Boro besides Strong in Twsp that has a 74 Mack CF

obviously was not a power wire.

Unless the utility company is on scene to verify the wires, it is basic firefighter training to avoid them. I have had my own personnel shocked by wires that were thought to be telephone.

@@engineer5213 Agree to disagree. I worked in a busy aggressive mid sized city. We knew the electrical power lines are the highest lines on the pole. The lower lines were cable and phone lines.. In the 150+ years of service, no one in my city has ever touched a hot wire.

I wish they followed they same policy of line placement in the rural areas I worked. It’s amazing the electrical and plumbing work you see in a single wide out in the sticks.

Mad respect for you and your career. Stay safe

Gracebeliever077 no. It’s a cable line

@@Totaro17 Thanks

No, it makes it easy to hate arsonists. If you immediately jump to stereotyping "people" then YOU are part of the problem.

@@JasmineLindros I am not a part of anyone's problem. There are absolutely no people in my life. I dislike humans for many reasons and avoid them like the plague. Comments like YOURS help convince me that I'm right!

Ever try to volunteer for the firehouse.. go to 40 hour basic training, another 80 hours advanced firefighting.. 80 hours of heavy rescue, another gas electric firefighting 8 hours., building construction course.. 24 hours.. arson 40 hour courses.. engine company operations 8 hours, 8 hours ladder / truck company operations.. 200 hours of confined space, auto , high angle rescue

It's a small town in norththumberland county. Close to centralia and kulpmont

I was thinking the exact same thing

Not all volunteer departments are bad. Get yourself educated !! A lot of states have very little to no training requirements for volunteer fire departments.

The majority of volunteer dept. do suck.

I was LMAO at that engineer. Poor guy was totally confused as to what to do

All of you who criticised these firefighters are morons. I have a lot of friends who are volunteers. They are dedicated to protecting the public without getting paid. I had 2 friends who made the ultimate sacrifice and left wives and children behind. I bet that you wouldn't have the balls to do what they do.

meeh, that is one of those deal with what is in front of you fires, they did the job fine and got it done

1 line you can see, can you see rear of the building

I am glad I am not the only one thinking this. I have commented before on this sort of thing and all I get is excuses from the American guys or they say well this is the way we have always done it.

Every community is different. How much pressure is 40 bar. ?You can maybe control a handline at 120 Pounds NP.

@@williamsimmons152 Am I right in thinking that most communities have voluntary crews that are perhaps not that well trained and just do the best they can ?

Well Andy, all the larger municipalities are full time departments. I don’t know if the numbers balance out as I’m sure there are more volunteer depts. Generally speaking, I would say they are not as highly trained but that really depends on the community, the leadership and so forth. I know every one in my department was a Paramedic and had a college degree of some kind. Most volunteer departments have people who have to work at another job, so recruiting becomes a problem.

1. You lay in the hydrant line and pull the engine with 750 gallons of water in front of the structure. 2. The driver activates the pump. 3. One FFer grabs a pole and Booster line and heads to the fire room windows. 4. They break out the windows and extinguish the fire LONG before an entry team can get dressed and get the front door open. 5. By that time, the hydrant line is flowing and other fire fighters should be venting windows. 6. Then the entry team, led by a nozzleman, go inside to mop up and search for PROTECTED victims. That is Real Fire Fighting. You Protect Everyone First because you can!

Liam Love possibly,,i realize i wasnt there but with light smoke showing and guys working on the inside already seems like it would be a quick find and extinguishment,still excessive to cut a hole at that point!

Opening up the roof at 12:00 is a total waste of time and effort.

You are just showing your ignorance Mark. Ever heard of vertical ventilation? You ever been a fire fighter? Obviously not.

lencycler1 I usually don’t like them too much but this one is awesome and the hose is color coordinated! 🚒🇺🇸

me too

Arsonist do stand and watch.. arson, was it revenge?.. $$$$$$$..... or sexual gratification

The vast majority of American fire fighters join up because they don't want to Work and Create like You have to. Do nothing all day. When there is a call, they stand around, break windows and squirt water and 95% of them can't even get that done right. These are the people everyone worships.

They are volunteers, Bill

@@floydyoung7329 To do a JOB well, you have to posses a strong and responsible Work Ethic. That does Not come with a paycheck or uniform. You have it or you don't. Don't fall into the same hole as most people do when they say, "You are wrong." What is wrong about anything I say.

@@JB91710 I think I actually misread what you said. Therefore I will retract my statement.

Firefighters go to work in the morning and eat 'till they get sleepy then sleep 'till they get hungry.

If you are talking about Engine 3, it looks later in the video to be a dark green. Interesting color choice; I would like to hear the history or reason for it.

Theres more to it than you think

Ok so you want your taxes raised drastically to staff multiple fire houses 24/7 manpower pay/ rent/ utilities/ equipment... ahhh guess you will just keep dealing with the inept, by the way are the only ones there for you, hopefully you wont need them one day

Question for you... you try to serve your communities volunteering

Former retired firefighter and a heavy rescue TECHINICAN

You seem to know everything, maybe you could volunteer and help them out.

Really? Well, it sounds to me like you need to get off your butt, and go show them how it's done! I was chief of a career department before I took my retirement and then got hired part time by a community to lead THEIR volunteer fire department. My volunteers were pretty damn good before I even showed up, and it's been a DREAM job for me since I took the helm. The lowest performers among my firefighters, are pretty good... and the average to higher performing members are just THAT much better. And they do the job, asking only that they're given good equipment to do the job with, and that if they get hurt or worse doing it, that they and their families will be looked after. It's an HONOR to have been given the privilege to lead the men and women I lead. I've met volunteers and paid personnel all across the country... If you think you can do better... shut up and join up and show us. Otherwise... hush and leave the thinking to people who actually have the initiative to put their money where their mouth is.

What was the ponit of that idiot comment. These firefighters have tactical issues starting with building construction and types that Texas firefighters do not deal with. There is no such thing as wood frame row homes in Texas or old 2 1/2 story singles this close to each other. You are comparing apples to oranges. So the pump operator had issues with the rig. They still made the knock.

@@skidude8989 Bro dont even bother, this dude has no clue, probably looking for burt reynolds in the backwoods thinking the movie deliverance took part in his 1 horse town

Waste of taxpayer money? Most firefighters are volunteer, and the paid ones make between ten dollars an hour to fifteen dollars an hour. Hardly a waste considering that they likely rotate who gets to suit up and fight the fire.

@@danielroyer9974 volunteers are now paid on call meaning they only get paid if their on a call. Their are no more true volunteer fire departments.

@@richardcentkowski146 that's a complete lie

@@zachl6069 not it isnt a lie look it up volunteer get paid in one form or another. Whether its write off or paid on call.

@@danielroyer9974 I looked it up and firefighters get an average of 22.50 hr

I’d like to see you do better.

@@ffandrewd2986 are you one of them?

@@wilsonperalta7521 no, but I’m saying I’d like to see you do better.

those words do not go together

For sure. It’s a racket for the few companies that build this equipment. If you think the equipment is over kill..........you ought to see the fire houses some of the volunteer organizations build.

They attract the following. 1. People who don't want to Work for a living. 2. People who want to live off the taxpayers without having to Work for a living and get a pension after they put in their 20. 3. Insecure people who want to be Instant heroes in the eyes of the public Just for Joining Up, Dressing Up and Showing Up. 4. People who couldn't possibly make anything but a fast food wage but of course, they wouldn't have them because they don't want to work. 5. People who care but they are dreamers of Bravery and Heroics and when it comes to work, they have no work ethic at all let alone a strong one. 6. Anyone who can do the job left real quick after they saw who they would be working with. I'm talking about the OFFICERS First and Then the Fire Players. Welcome to the real world of American Fire Playing.

@@JB91710 the more you comment, the more you look like the moron you are.

@@JB91710 someone couldn’t pass the test to even be a volunteer.

too often.

Are you completely Out Of Your Mind? How old are you. 6? Did it give you a warm fuzzy feeling to say that?

@@JB91710 Don't take your broken dreams out on me.

​@@mikefreeman3641 Oh so you are a GUESSER too? Go buy some lottery tickets and leave critiquing fire fighting performance to someone who knows something. Dreamers and Two Dimensional Reactors just don't get it. You don't evaluate the performance of the departments or even have the common sense to ask questions if you see something that doesn't make sense. Dream on!