Thanks! It's not too late to move here! Just sayin!

Haha! You have great taste in vehicles. I love the Forte5. I think it should sell better than it does, but a lot of people are trained to buy a sedan and don't even test drive the hatchback.

@@BrantfordKia Yeah, people are trained to recognize sedans or suvs now; there's no frame of reference for wagon-like vehicles currently. We need marketing to make people like other things now.

Thanks for your kind words! I can't wait to try the Forte5 GT!

@@BrantfordKia, Absolutely cannot wait!!!

I agree not having some kind of spare tire is completely stupid. Instead you get a fix a flat kit. Such a joke.

The GT models have a multi-link while the EX model has a torsion bar.

This may vary per dealership. If we're your local dealer, we'd be happy to chat with you about this. You can connect with our sales team here: www.brantfordkia.com/youtubequestion.htm

Thanks for watching. Thanks also for recognizing that we do things a little bit differently here. If you ever have any questions, we'd be happy to help!

@@BrantfordKia that was nice of you to reply!

Nice!

Enjoy your new ride!

Sounds great! You can connect with our sales team here if you'd like to set up an appointment. www.brantfordkia.com/youtubequestion.htm

@will muny Definitely in the top 3 on my list of favourite Hamilton's.

I was thinking about doing a video about how Saab buyers should look to Kia to fit their needs, there are a lot of similar features in modern Kia's that mattered to Saab owners. Growing up my dad had 3 Saabs. As far as which is roomier, the Stinger is a much larger car, I would think that it would feel roomier, but if you're looking for a lot of practicality, a sport feel, and great looks, the Forte5 GT might be a great option. To see if one is better for you over the other, you'd probably have to head to your closest Kia dealer to see them side by side.

I've been thinking about getting some sort of prop that I can use to compare storage compartments. The other issue is, we're a dealer, and in some ways we'd rather have our customers bring their own things in to see how well their own things fit. I have done a seating and cargo video with the Kia Sedona, that might be a video that I do with the Forte line. Thanks for the feedback!

William Liu My thing is will my wife’s wheelchair fit in the back of ____ crossover.

@@dam4274 Unless it's a very oddly shaped wheelchair, I'd be shocked if it didn't fit in this car.

I agree with you about the looks! The car looks great. The reason that I don't mention the price is because I work at a dealership. Prices can change throughout the course of a model year, and we use these videos for our sales team. It's not helpful if the price I mention doesn't match exactly. I also rarely mention competitors. There's no point in me directing people to our competition. We're a dealership, not a review channel, so we're going to do things a little differently than a review channel. I understand your points though.

I always refer to the manufacturer's website for those numbers. I find that I don't have too much trouble exceeding those numbers on this car.

I think what I'll do is a proper cargo area video of this car. It seems to be a popular request.

@@BrantfordKia Cool, i'll be waiting!

This is a trend that is hitting this class of cars. It's not just Kia, and if I'm honest, I'm not a huge fan of it. That being said you have class-leading roadside assistance, and most of our cars that don't come with a spare can be equipped with one at the time of purchase.

I haven't seen one yet, but I expect that it will have the shark fin antenna.

I saw a 2020 Forte5 GT the other day, and NO it does NOT come with a shark fin.

Haha! Soon! I may wait for the Forte5 GT to arrive. We'll see.

Believe it or not, this is actually a difficult measurement to get for people. Some people want the maximum possible length with the passenger seat in the full forward position, some people want the measurement with the driver seat positioned for them. Sometimes people want to measure the maximum width of the floor, while others want the width at the opening of the trunk. For that reason, I encourage you to stop by your local Kia dealership. They'd be happy to let you take the exact measurements that you want and then you can be confident in using those numbers to compare.

@@BrantfordKia If I could, I would, but this car isn't available in the US ... yet. My lovely and gracious wife is a professional harpist, so I'm always on the lookout for vehicles that would make a suitable harpmobile. She's presently driving a 2019 KIA Sorento SXL, which is the ideal size to transport a concert grand harp. (It's also the finest "car" we've ever owned.) My ride is a 2003 Mazda Protege5, into which we can kinda-sorta fit a harp, but it's far from ideal. If I were to replace it, I'd want to find a more suitable alternative: Large enough to fit a harp, but small enough to toss around. The Forte's cousin, the Hyundai Elantra GT, is available in the States, but while its load floor is wide enough it's a bit too short. The Forte five-door you're showing here appears to be longer, but looks can be deceiving. Anyway, we are so happy with our "new" Sorento and are totally sold on the quality, value, and durability of KIA products, so we'd really like to keep everything in the family. It's amazing how many exciting, new options KIA keeps turning out. We'll just keep hoping that one hits the "sweet spot." (Or, we could just break down and buy a Stinger. [wink])

@@ronforeman2556 Ah! Time to move to Canada! So this should be considerably bigger than your Protege5, the load floor should be longer, but I'm not sure how wide it would be compared to that. Great to hear that you're enjoying your Kia!

The short answer is that a Canadian dealer can't sell it to a U.S. customer because it violates our franchise agreements. Sorry.

@@BrantfordKia wow that sucks! but thanks for letting me know.

In Canada, we have the EX, GT, and GT Limited models. I know that at this time, they are not considering the ProCeed wagon for Canada.

@@BrantfordKia Thank you for your reply. It is very sad that Canada/U.S. doesn't get the better, cooler European cars. (Not blaming you though).

@@serenitynow8265 Haha. Sure, you get cool cars... but we have me! So there's that!

@@BrantfordKia Yes, it is awesome that we have you (as I live in Canada as well). Not so awesome that we don't get the nicer European versions. Cheers!

The temperature gauge is in the dash. It's a similar size to the fuel gauge.

I can't wait to do the video on the 2039 Kia!

Haha! No. Only when I need to get a video done!

At this point, you can't get the Forte5 in the U.S. We can't sell it to an American. It's against our franchise rules.

@@BrantfordKia Would that be applicable for a used car as well?

@@s99614 Used cars can be sold to anyone.

The Kia Proceed is not available in Canada like the Forte5, but my understanding is that the ProCeed is more of a wagon, and this is a bit more of a hatchback. The most obvious difference can be seen from the side of the car when you compare the furthest window to the rear of the car. Hope that helps!

Forget your hopes for spare tire. Kia can sell you a donut for $400

"We" .... I mean...WE are... are you?

@@BrantfordKia By we I mean North America. :-D

@@KaranBhansali01 Canada, Yes. USA, I'm not sure.

@@BrantfordKia The U.S will not get the 5. Hatchbacks ( of any make)are just not selling in the U.S. dealers just use them as advertised (BIG) loss leaders.SUV's and CUV 's are selling well.

When it arrives, I absolutely will!

We do!!

In Canada, the GT ONLY comes in an Automatic transmission.

@@BrantfordKia oh beauty!! Thanks!!

@@teenyxmg CORRECTION!!! I literally just got new information today. The GT comes in Manual OR Automatic for 2021. So the car in the video is Automatic only, but for 2021 (the next model year) we have a Manual Transmission option.

@@BrantfordKia agghh!!! Now I may want to see the 2021 before deciding lol. Thank you for the update!

@@teenyxmg Haha! Happy to help!

Another reason to move to Canada?

Many crossover buyers are searching for that, however, from my time in the showroom here, I can tell you that many of our customers are looking for the practicality of a hatchback style vehicle, and would appreciate the fuel economy and feel of the compact car that they're used to driving. We have alternative vehicles in the lineup for people with the same criteria as you, but for others, this is a vehicle that fits their needs.

The sedan is better besides the hatchback is coming to the us as well

@@Yondaily nah, I'd rather have the hatch. Better weight distribution, and the sedan Forte is tiny. I need a daily driver I can haul stuff around for myself, my fiance and my son for cheap. Also, the US is getting the 6mt, which I also prefer, and CAD is getting the hatch with the 7 DSG no manual option. It doesnt make sense since in the US market sedans are dying out. I dont want sedans to die either, I like them when they're done right, but a forte5 2GT would be better here.

David Dawson get a civic hatch or Mazda 3 you don’t have to get a Kia bro

David Dawson get something like a Chevy Cruze hatchback

@@Yondaily nah, I dont want any of those lol. If I were to get anything else it would be the Elantra GT Sport or N Line. The Honda is ugly, and has low hatch space. And its slower. The Mazda3 has no Speed option, looks like a Beluga Whale and is like 180BHP. I already have 2014 Malibu LTZ and Chevy quality control is horrible lol. Plus that's the slowest option. The only good thing about the Cruze is the hatch space and styling but I've owned 2 new Chevys and they were both junk. I've owned two used Hyundai/Kia respectively and they were both reliable and quick. Kia and Hyundai are a different breed than they were 20 years ago man. Even our current back up car and our hauler a 2009 Kia Spectra5 SX is great for 2009. Fully loaded, 6mt, leather everywhere, soft touch everywhere, aux input, onboard computers to view gas mileage tire pressure ect, 8 airbags, big for the time, the hatch has a total 47 cubic feet of storage when you do the 60/40 tango on the back seats. They're great.

This whip wants you!

@@BrantfordKia I have a 2016. I like it except for one thing...I find it low and difficult to get out of. Does this version sit any higher?

@@norm2923 I feel like it does sit higher, but I'm not sure if I have a spec that proves that. I'll be doing a live video on our KZfaq channel on this car at 2:00pm today, where you can watch me get in and out of it, if that helps.

We now do LIVE videos and we have a massive teddy bear who has become a bit of a celebrity as I use him to show trunk space and then people can compare from video to video to see how big the trunk is.

I don't believe the Forte5 is available in the U.S. right now. Time to move to Canada!

@@BrantfordKia I so wish I could. Universal healthcare is mighty attractive. 😁

@@nevergiveupnevergivein7655 Haha! Wait? You have to pay out of pocket to go to the doctor? You mean EVERYONE does? In a first-world country? In 2020? We have healthcare AND hatchbacks!! And mountains, and lakes, and rivers, and oceans (three of them!) The cost for all of this? 3 months of cold weather. Totally worth it!!

@@BrantfordKia I LOVE cold weather, too.

@@nevergiveupnevergivein7655 WELCOME TO CANADA!!! 😊🇨🇦

I find that cars never look the same in pictures compared to seeing them in person. I was really impressed with this car in person, especially the Forte5 GT model which looks even sportier.

Ok... so... there's a lot to unpack here... Yes, we do have a time machine, it's been super difficult to pull the DeLorean badges off, but as soon as we do, we''ll badge it a Kia, and off we go! Second, yes the previous Forte5 was a step up in power. This one is expected to sell better, and they've done their market research. Third, you need to wait to see the Forte5 GT video this week. The one I'll drive is a 7 speed quick shifting Dual Clutch transmission. It's AWESOME!! Fourth... PLEASE people... stop telling me that the CVT on the Forte is rubber band like. It's actually very impressive to drive. Many of our competitors brought out CVT's that were just brutal to drive. Kia's IVT isn't that! (Rant over!) :)

Nice!

Does it have a spare tire?

Without re-watching this, it's possible that I could have worded things better. That being said, I really quite like this car, and the transmission shouldn't be equated to old CVT's from other brands that underperformed.

I agree!

Replacing the spare with an inflator kit is not at all just a Kia thing. Many cars in this segment are moving to an inflator kit. Most of our cars still offer a spare tire kit as an accessory, and it still fits in the floor where there is a tire well. It's not a trend that I'm a fan of, but at least in Canada we have 5 years of roadside assistance.

That is something that is happening industry wide. It's not just Kia. In most cases, you can get a spare tire kit at purchase. You do still have an inflator kit, and in Canada, you get 5 years of unlimited kilometers of roadside assistance.

Brantford Kia -I know...will not get any vehicle that doesn’t include spare......I am not in Canada

Thank you-enjoy your reviews

@@ingenunis5003 Thanks for watching!

Time to move to Canada and get this today!

@@BrantfordKia I wouldn't want to live there. If I could buy one and then take it back I would lmao

@@devongee1776 I understand. Not everyone wants to live in the best country in the world. Some people like a challenge!

@@BrantfordKia The ProCeed is NOT available in Canada, so it's not time to move to Canada. They have the ProCeeds in Europe - so it may be time to move to Europe instead I guess. (as they always get the better, cooler, not stripped-down versions).

@@serenitynow8265 Haha! Well played! Are you hiring? I'm willing to consider anything if the pay is right?

Yup. I do. There are literally millions of pictures and videos of these cars online. When I'm talking to people, I try to look them in the eye. I can always find a better balance, but in general, you're going to see me in the shot.

I'm a huge fan of manual transmissions too... but... people just aren't buying them in high volumes, and that's why they aren't available.

@@BrantfordKia too bad, I'd prefer a manual. They never have them in stock. Or in red option or with the turbo engine. I really like this version of the kia forte 5. But the lights on the bumpers are not my forte.

@@ivan23caravantes44 I see what you did there. ;)

@@BrantfordKia can't wait to see the dual exhaust version you were talking about

@@ivan23caravantes44 I'm looking forward to it too. Here's a link to the Sedan with the dual exhaust and the turbo engine. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nqyGiM9h2tO5oI0.html&t

Haha! That makes sense to me! This is a great car!

I love the new signal location

@@jaredshelton4718 why

@@TheDjgenius It looks nice

Having them in the headlight assembly can be difficult to see at night with the glare. I think this is why most European cars like Audi and Mercedes have the headlight temporarily turn off while the signalling is engaged.

@@thatebutuoyguy788we r talking about the back not the front

Of course, I was referring to how it drove. Early CVT's made by other brands were awful to drive. That being said, Kia explained to me a number of things that they did to change the design of their CVT to avoid the reliability problems of some early CVT's from other brands. It's not something that would worry me with Kia's reputation for reliability.

It will be offered in a GT Variant!

I'll be doing a walkaround of the Forte5 GT this week. Subscribe to be the first to see it!

Wait for the Forte5 GT, it's basically going to be a combination of the car in this video and the one in the video linked at the end of this comment. It will have a dual exhaust and sound amazing. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nqyGiM9h2tO5oI0.html&t

People seem to be really upset about this. Interesting.

@@BrantfordKia i guess if some jerk hits you at the shopping centre car park then you end up having to fix the bumper and lights.

I'd say that's when insurance comes in handy 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@raulvalenciarodriguez256 and premium will rise next year...

@@exlg3363 just like with any other car accident right?

@@exlg3363 I've had a whole replaced rear essentials on my 2017 kia Optima within the first year due to being rear ended. Didn't pay anything more my on biannual premiums on a $5200 usd repair because I was not at fault. Allstate is the best insurance.

People seem to be really upset about the placement of the rear signal lights. As far as the cost of replacing a bumper. Kia's, as a brand are very often less expensive to insure than many competitive vehicles. So although there is fear in the KZfaq comments section here, that fear doesn't seem to be backed up by the insurance industry that tracks the data of how much things cost on our cars versus the competitor's costs, so I do have to put this comment here to correct what may be misleading information.

I can see that. I've also had people say that from the back it looks like a BMW. It looks great in person!

It is available as an accessory. This isn't unique to Kia. Many cars in the segment are going with inflator kits instead of spare tires.

@@BrantfordKia That doesn't make it right.

@@s99614 Maybe, but this is a dealer's KZfaq channel. As a dealer, that's what we can do to make it right.