I am a huge Yamaha fan as well, I own a 2004 fxho MR1 1100. After all these yrs she's still good to go I don't have stability problems, I fish the west coast at Wanganui and other likely places around the central nth island, have been in some very tough water, she's all good. I don't have my bait board mounted east west but inline, so if diving, a remount is quite easy. She also has a bow rail and side rails for handling in rough beach launches, makes a huge difference. She also has foot well electric pumps for fighting fish in rough water when your foot wells might become flooded. That has happened to me several times. She also has a higher custom made dash hood to stop huge water hitting me in the face on those rough but fishable day's. That custom dash also helps with the wind blast. Because she's an older heavier craft she handles tough water very well, but is susceptible to a nose dive in a following sea. I am designing a wave breaker to fit to the bow rail to stop this. After owning a Yamaha and trying out a new profisher, I would not swap to seadoo. I don't like that skiddy feeling of the seadoo, foot wells hold far to much water and they wonder around alot causing steering corrections on all but flat water becoming a bit laborious over long rides in rough water, but I have never lived with one so don't really know about them, just the odd ride. What I did not like about it at all, is the extended rear platform, when sitting backwards, fishing, everything is just a little out of reach when the box is in the rear position, in the close position, the platform may as well not be extended. Having had that rant, I never fish two up, tried it once, never again. Might see you out there one day.

@@atticushexcel9567 Just in case you don't comprehend well, my ski is 16yrs older, unless you're looking for a near vintage ski, my words have nothing to do with a 2020 ski. I have been lucky enough to own my old jet ski for 17 yrs, that should help you with reliability but not much else. My statement was a comparison between old and new Yamaha ski's and has nothing to do with helping you make up your mind.

Have 12 hours on mine. You’re gonna absolutely LOVE it!! I, too, am glad I went with the Fish Pro. Factory integration backed by a warranty is where it’s at! And LOVE the HUGE transom! Awesome machine!

@@Pilot545 I’m going to break it in this weekend on the Oregon Coast. I can’t wait!!!

@@NorthwestSawyer Sounds cold! We are on the opposite coast in Florida. Haha. Have fun!! Check out the ActiveCaptain app too when you get a chance. It’s the Garmin app. You’ll need a micro SD card (no bigger than 32 GB). Also, my steering was slightly out of alignment but Sea Doo made it super easy to adjust. Couple of KZfaq vids out there. Stay warm, my friend! Leave a comment here to let me know what you think. 😊

@@NorthwestSawyer btw, what they said in the vid about the nose being pushed a bit in moderate to rough chop at an angle is legit but it’s nothing crazy. Just a minor steering correction that you’re likely doing naturally anyway.

@@Pilot545 it’s a PWC that can handle rough water. What else do you need?😬

That's a good point and we should have highlighted it. We'll be sure to go into more detail once we revisit the 2022 models.

very interesting idea, need to check this out, thanks!

If you need to haul inflatable, then jetski looses purpose, better to get an actual boat, you can't go fast, and you end up doing twice the work in loading, unloading, maintaining if you need a whole dinghy for this. Im still undecided between stabicraft or fishing jetski

You do know you can modify any contract. Also you can't just full throttle a brand new motor you gotta break it in first.

@@pain_weaver I understand modifications on contracts. Checks. We never got the Sea Don’t above 7 knots, let alone breaking it in. After the .9 mile outing described above, the jet ski spent 5 weeks in the shop to make the recall happen. Haven’t had a problem since, but I don’t trust it. Added dual batteries as well.

@@michaelbrantley8892 I would have checked recalls first. Then force them to fix it before taking possession.

Hindsight being 20/20, yes.

are tubbies good for stability?

rich. i have recently bought the 21 fishpro. and coming from fxho. i have to say the fishpro has done nothing but disappoint me in the handling and ride. compared to my old 17 fx. to the point i have only put 5hrs on it and seriously doubt i,ll put more on it. my 1st issue with the fishpro was bow steer. how ever that has been addressed with some aftermarket sponsons.that made a huge difference. my 2nd issue and now my biggest. is porpoising. no matter how much i change the trim it will not settle. even in flat sea conditions with next to no wind. have you experienced this on the fishpro? and if so is there a solution?

💯 agree. Drier ride. Softer ride. More stable. You can improve tracking by adjusting speed, trim and approach angle. ST3 all the way bro.

Yep. I’ve got the 19 yammy fx cruiser and my mates all have fish pros. I’ve done some big days in psycho weather and I’m ALWAYS the one who’s wet and miserable. And don’t even get me started on the stability comparison between the two 🤦‍♂️

@@tonyking8446 Hi Tony, sorry for the delayed response. Great to hear the sponsons improved your tracking, which sponsons did you go for? In regards to proposing I have not had any issues at all regardless of how I load it. Give me a few more details; what speed does it porpose at? Does it do both with and without the cooler? How is it loaded? Do you buy any chance have water in the hull or any damage that may cause the water to not travel over it efficiently? Look forward to hearing from you.

The Sea-Doo Fish Pro does indeed have a "deep V" hull and, of the Sea-Doo line-up, it's the best in choppy conditions. That said, the Sea-Doo's "deep V" can also get caught out a little by bow hunting, when riding diagonally across chop. The Yamaha FX hull is more forgiving when you have no choice but to ride diagonally across chop. Both struggle in severe swell. Both are pretty good in 1 to 2 metre swell, depending on wave intervals. Though I would lean towards the current Yamaha FX if ocean riding was the priority.

Sea-Doo does great industrial design. The cooler box is easier to step over on the Sea-Doo than it is on the Yamaha. The practicality - and the thought - that went into the Sea-Doo is incredible.

Objective advice 👍🏼

I own an FXHO with Tubbys fitted (Shoreline Yamaha Brisbane) and it's ultra stable, has huge storage and is light years ahead of anything else. Full access from the rear and so much more.

@@LongStraightLines tubby's not available in NZ at a price that would not make your eye water !! ;-) expensive option.

I'm in the market for one of these but I've also thought hard of your comment. I reached a conclusion where I wanted something that fit in my garage or don't want something bigger. It is probably easier for me to operate and putting it on and off the water on my own. Also cost less to operate and maintain, though I'm unsure of this as i have never owned a jetski or a boat. I have a family of 4 but I'll be the only person on it 95 percent of the time and the rest is just me and one of my sons or wifey.. The only thing that's holding be back a little on one of these is exactly what you said, the high price, however, I am able to afford it.

Seadoo is a seadont..Yamaha machines are waaay better

@@dls1423 I’ve had a Yamaha, Honda an a seadoo... Yamaha gave me the most problems...

@@edjohn4590 wow really?? That is the first time I’ve ever heard that. Good to know thx

@@dls1423 not saying anyone is better then the other.. any machine can give issues... just my experience..

Agreed. If you want a softer and drier ride go the ST3 Seadoo.

Go look at both and buy the SeaDoo

Seadoo hands down. If you're going offshore I'd suggest adding an extra battery and a bilge pump no matter which one you get. That and go through all of the factory hose connections on the motor and hull and reinforce them so you don't take on water. It's a big ocean out there and things can go wrong on a moments notice. Best to be prepared.

Sea-Doo does great industrial design and the 1630cc three-cylinder delivers great fuel economy. Yamaha and Kawasaki do great (responsive) hulls. Just need to choose what's most important as a rider. Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks for your feedback. That's good to know. In Australia, watercraft length is not necessarily a requirement for how far you can ride offshore. But the vessel and rider must have the right safety provisions. Both of these watercraft have their strengths and weaknesses. We love the ergonomics of the Sea-Doo and prefer the way the Yamaha FX (2019 onwards) cuts through chop. We can see merit in both, and buyers will make their own choices based on the type of riding they do.

@@WatercraftZone I’m from Australia mate and in WA that’s law :)

@@aquaticaddictions9902 Thanks for the note. That's good to know. I just looked up the information for WA. All Jet Skis can be operated in the ocean within 5 nautical miles (or within 1 nautical mile of an island that is further offshore). The 2019-onwards Yamaha FX is 3.58 metres in length and the Sea-Soo Fish Pro 170 (Sport and Trophy) is 3.73 metres in length. Looks like the Fish Pro misses out by 2cm. Here is the WA Government description of the rules: "A person in charge of a vessel less than (including personal watercraft) may not go further than five (5) nautical miles from land. However you can operate the vessel within 1 nautical mile of an island located more than five nautical miles from the mainland shore."

I took both out and purchased Seadoo. Sits so much better in the water in during swells and I like lower sitting position. No regrets

They have now mate: jetskijunk.co.nz/product/yamaha-2019-fx-bluetooth-speaker-set/

The Sea-Doo Fish Pro is a triumph of industrial design. Yamaha has since taken its first steps into this area with the RecDeck accessories for 2022 (that will bolt on to all FX models since 2019). Can't wait to see how both Sea-Doo and Yamaha continue to evolve these designs. Now we just need Kawasaki to get in on the action and consumers will be spoiled for choice.

No doubt about it , Seadoo's have always been known to have major reliability issues Yamaha is the exact opposite .

Idf is a game changer.

The yamaha does not have the IDF, but it does have a feature like trolling. 1 push of a button and its 1 mile an hour. Slow enough for troll fishing...

@@nookied3735 no it isn't.all the idf is good for is weed and mud. both of which don't need the idf.

@@ericlechleitner74 trolling cranks requires speeds between 1.5 to 3 mph.

@@pain_weaver Nobody trolls anything at 3mph lol...7 mph minimum for any type of bait/lure.

Thanks for the note. Both skis are great, it depends on the type of riding you're planning. From what we gather, most Jet Ski manufacturers design hulls for flat water (rivers and lakes), but Australian Jet Ski riders have a higher focus on ocean riding (Jet Skis are banned, for example, on Sydney Harbour and linked inland waterways). We wish all three Jet Ski brands - Sea-Doo, Yamaha and Kawasaki - would do more testing in choppy conditions.

Not really sea doo is dedicated to these times of engines.

Yamaha is a trick of all trades company. Ie bikes 4 wheelers exct.

As far as service goes after a few years parts are no longer available. All jet ski companies do this to cut out faulty skis that don't need to be on the water.

As far as reliability on water goes sea doo is way better. Like I said they're dedicated specifically for these machines they don't make anything other than this. That being said reason why they're stiff on water is because of the anti roll design. You can literally stand on any part of the ski and it will never roll unless you force it.

Oooo and as a bonus because sea doo is dedicated to skis and jet powered boat types that means the fastest skis on the water is nearly half the price of the competition. I already checked.

Thanks for the feedback. Both models have their strengths and weaknesses. Since this video was published, Yamaha has introduced a new RecDeck for 2022 FX models (to add more fishing accessories) and Sea-Doo has released a Trophy edition of the Fish Pro for 2022. We will be sure to test these as soon as we can.

I have a Sea-Doo gtx which is the same platform, it’s unbelievably stable for a PWC. Wouldn’t worry about stability when fishing solo. With 2 people might be less stable but you can’t really expect anything better on a jet ski. Definitely won’t worry about flipping sideways even when loaded up

Yammy has almost no stability compared to the fishpro

deadliest sport in the world, look it up

Seadoo gtx not gti

I'm buying a gtx 230 Saturday an turn it into a fishing pwc

My 08 still as the factory seal .Just can't be an idiot, and over heat the carbon seal with the ski out of the water. Mine has 175 hrs. , and still rips like the day I bought it. Besides, when the pump is running , it will suck the hull dry in a second. Another thing, is that you take the seat off to let the hull dry out any water when your done riding, and at that time, check for any excessive water in the hull. It's all about maintenance, and common sense. Anybody that's been around boats, know things to look for. I've had many I/O boats in my lifetime, and you have to check the shift cable, exhaust, and drive bellows every year for tears in the rubber, or your going to sink. My original bellows on my last boat lasted 15yrs., and the EBay replacements almost sunk my 19ft boat in 6months. I always buy original boat parts from that point on. Same with the Doo if I need parts, dealer parts all the way.

Hahahaha you’re kidding ?!

@@scottwilliamson7141 no Yamaha is just sea doo’s copy cat

IBR is a failure

@@marshallmacdougall8152 IBR is an unrivaled innovation, and very reliable

@@TOUCTI yes and sky is red

In our experience, the Sea-Doo Fish Pro 170 uses fuel at a rate of about 45L/100km (in our testing, in ocean conditions) while the Yamaha FX HO 1.8 uses fuel at a rate of about 50L/100km. Rider weight, riding conditions, speed and how often you accelerate can all affect consumption. This is our experience riding both skis over extended periods of time. Thanks for your query.

@@WatercraftZone thanks for the help

My 08 Seadoo has never let me down yet,can't find a reason to buy a new ski? Seadoo is simple to work on too, I love the Rotax engines, had one on my ultralight airplane too.

and thats important when fishing

@@stereolababy 🤣

OMG LOL.

@@stereolababy might as well be on a floating raft made of trees . Anyone can fish on anything. The looks of a PWC matter ! And the FX is just more sexy

@@mariap6271 you're looking for a different kind of tail i guess

Great suggestion. That appears to be addressed as an option for the 2022 Sea-Doo Fish Pro Trophy edition.

Can’t go past the fish pro. Nothing better on the market

Been offshore fishing heap on my fishpro mate. "fits the bill" very well

I've been looking at some of the Yamaha cruisers. They're dry rides and good on fuel

@@stevenw76 I’ve got a 19 yammy fx cruiser ho. Nothing dry about it

Thanks for your feedback. We enjoy the Yamaha FX and the Kawasaki Ultra hulls the most in rough water, though the Sea-Doo ST3 range of skis is also good in low to medium chop.

If that's your experience, that's absolutely a fair comment and we appreciate the feedback. We based our observations on 60-plus hours in rough ocean on a Sea-Doo ST3 and 100-plus hours in rough ocean on a Yamaha FX.

Hmmmm. Maybe, but the beer might taste kinda funny.

If this was FARK! I would funny that remark - LoL

You have the Yamaha also?

@@sfera2157 no but i rented one at the tx coast

Not in reliability it ain't , not even remotely close.

12K is still way too much for these things.

And bass boats aren't worth 65K either, but whatcha you going to do?

bought two seadoos, never again, going to yamaha for the next one, its easy to tell seadoo is cheaping out on the build quality

Nobody likes Seadoo ? Seadoo is the biggest seller of PWC in the world🤣

Thanks for your feedback. We've ridden both. We're comfortable with the deep V on the ST3 Sea-Doo when the fuel tank is full, but in our experience it starts to bounce around as soon as the fuel load lightens over the nose. In our experience, the Yamaha FX is more neutral and more accurate in chop, though the 2023 FX HO now needs to have the trim down because the deep cut in the new ride plate sticks the nose in the air. All that said, we respect and understand different riders have different riding styles. Thanks for sharing your experience. It shows the Jet Ski community that there are plenty of differing views. And that's ok too.

BS....Hammerhead sharks don't attack boats

@@ozjuice And don't travel in "schools" lol...

Thanks Chris that's great advice. Also means the customer has less chance of misplacing stuff. Thanks for the tip!

Thanks for your feedback. Keep in mind these are Australian prices. We would sure love to buy them in USD.

a pontoon around here that will do 50mph is over 100K these days and I know I wouldnt be out in the great lakes with a toon in 3 foot -5 foot rollers

U most be a hard-core Yamaha fan. 😄😄😄😄

@@Mr-ts8il actually I'm a Kawasaki fan but I have many friends that have seadoos Yamahas and Kawasakis and guess which ones break way way more you guessed it seadoos!

Yamaha will get you back home every time , the brand was built on being the most reliable .

@@kevinwest1607 Seadoo's have terrible reliability , I would never ever take one offshore no way . I would take a Yamaha offshore no worries at all .

Do research on the folks that have jet ski rental businesses...you will find that the majority purchase Yamahas for a reason.

This is based on what exactly?

My brother bought a new xp limited, and the engine blew up. Seadoo would not warranty the engine. Shit company!

That is 100% correct , I would NEVER buy a Seadoo because they have terrible reliability where Yamaha is universally known to be the most reliable . The overwhelming majority of offshore boats like the Yellowfin brand always have big monster YAMAHA outboards for their incredible reliability .

Yeah it happens a bit down here. They don't call it Treasure Island for nothing. It was better when the Australian dollar was at parity with the US dollar, but those days are long gone. That said, demand for Jet Skis and PWCs is still as strong as ever, despite the recent round of price rises.

​​@@WatercraftZonehell, this comment from you rings true even more so in 2023. Aussie dollar is diving and price increase percentage in Australia is crazy in comparison

I agree Sea doo should get all hands down Yamaha will will be running perfectly a decade longer than a Seadoo , don't believe it , wait a while.

I have a 2019 Seadoo Fish Pro and I love it. Easy to tow, lots of power. Fish finder is great and the cooler is perfect size. Lots of storage space under the handlebar. I live in canada and I fish in any lakes I can access with my 4 wheeler.

If u ride more than you fish say 60/40 , buy the Yamaha! ...but if your main intention is to fish and doing it more often , buy the Seadoo !

I have the 2020 fish pro, you can move the cooler forward and it make reboarding really easy. But you really wont fall off if your fishing, there way to stable

I have an 2019 Fish-Pro I'm 6'4" 270ish and I can stand and move on either side with both feet standing with no problems and get the speakers

If you want any bit of reliability (which in a fishing vessel is paramount) don’t even think about a seadoo and go the Yamaha

The biggest problem with Sea Doo is they have constant motor breakdowns , that's always been their reputation.