the last car that i remember had one was the Lexus LS460

why lug a full spare tire? whats the fascination with the extra useless weight in your vehicle?

@@madanielk6526you can drive it longer

drive 'it' longer? what is 'it' A car wont be driven longer or shorter due to availability of a single extra spare tire. My point is some people with older cars, after years and years driving their old cars have yet to discover their spare tire. All the meanwhile they are lugging that tire along.

@@madanielk6526 a space saver spare is temporary

Lord Bass when I seen this in person at first I thought it was an Audi R8

Tonton Mc until u see the VW logo, what a let down lol

😂 typical Volkswagen

49%

Buying a car new off the lot ( unless bought cash in full) is stupid. I totally agree

Patrick Bolmeyer that’s great keep us posted! I purchased one Saturday evening here in Oklahoma City. I love having a unique vehicle

@@2004cyrus Join us on the 'Volkswagen Arteon Owners' Facebook page!

Where did you get it?

I'm curious. What was the MSRP of your car? Did you qualify for any incentives?

@@MikeBlue77 The sticker (including delivery) was ~$48,500. ~$8500 off sticker then add in taxes and registration. They had a 0% finance incentive for 60 months but the price reduction of the car would have been less. Put 50% down, financed through my Credit Union @3.5% / 60 months but plan on paying loan off in 18-24 months.

I am considering the stinger vs arteon. I really like the more power that Stinger offers and feel it is a mature car as well as it can get down and dirty with you if you want while not screaming a "whore" in your face if you catch my drift? I mean I like the fact the exhaust is not too loud and obnoxious and it's very practical. My question to you if you don't mind is, how reliable has it been for you and what is the average MPG you are getting so far? I really want a sleeper car and feel like Kia offers that with the Stinger. I also really like the slick look of the Arteon but disappointed with the less power. Thanks in advance for your response.

Daniel Mitra exactly at first I thought it was an Audi R8

If the sticker was 42.9, it was not the fully loaded one.

Very stylish. Sleek and sexy. Better looking than an Audi? YES.

zep head only some Audi's

Except the Arteon scores an A on interior noise at 70 DB, while the Lincoln MKZ scores a B on interior noise at 70 DB. ???

A dark brown is available, or it was, it is called "Canyon Brown".

Great. You got new for essentially used car price. Success.

One of the most beautiful cars on the road today.

What was your experience with the Passat??🤔

@@newsrebel I can tell my experience with one CC and now a Passat. The 2.0 tdi CC was a really nice car to have, good reliabilty and never had any issue with it. Just regular service with good oil and a decent mechanical empathy, had it in about 43500 miles and harsch winters in Sweden. It had a bit of rattle and my Audi a4 b8 before had a better interior quality but less fun to drive. My Passat tdi 4m 2017 is more luxurues, it is almost fully loaded and right now it´s been fine, only central locking system on the right side but it is covered by the warranty.

tay very reliable. I had a 3.6 RLine.

No mention of Homelink. Guess does not have it.

@Matthew the Cashew That's been the problem with VWoA for decades now....they constantly mismanage the distributorship and damage the brands ability to succeed. Best best would be to disband this current organization and start fresh. VWoA also constantly modifies products for the US market that isn't required by DOT and degrade the quality and design of the original great design and engineering.

I’ve said the same thing but it’s all cost. You just can’t build them like this and sell them for the low $20k and make any money. 15 years ago VW offered the same cars as in Europe but something like a Passat was $26,000 to start in 2006 money! That’s just not competitive.

Jake Kennedy The Euro is no longer significantly more expensive than the USD, and they build in Mexico now. No excuses for VW!

@Matthew the Cashew _ Any European brand would do well in the US because Americans have this unsubstantiated admiration for Europeans. If Americans would do the same thing with what VW tried to pull with the diesel scandal in Europe, you wouldn't have seen one American car on the road in Europe. I mean American car, not only the brand that involved in that scandal. However, Europeans see Americans as illiterate gullible idiots to be milked out of their money with unrealistic propaganda which is infused into the commercial ads. In the early 2000's, VW Jetta was the least reliable car in the US market even behind the Hyundai Accent. In fact, it is still less reliable than an Hyundai Accent but Hyundai increased the quality of its products. When the US media went through a make over after 2001, The European cars started to get better reviews from the media people WITHOUT increasing their quality and reliability. Europeans always kept the car market high in the US with expensive materials and fit and finish of their cars, but the mechanical aspect of European cars is and always been so bad that they deserve to be defined as out of factory lemon cars. Bottom line is Europeans are not ethically fit to do business anywhere and Americans will continue to be screwed by them as long as they see themselves as the extension of the ever exaggerated European non existent culture.

@Langolier Thing is that VW overall is a very reliable brand in Europe. The problem isn't with the product it is with VWoA, the incompetent management of the distributorship in the USA, and incompetent and dishonest dealership sales and service here. "Herndon Half-wits". The MK4 Jetta/Golf were very reliable and only had two weaknesses coil pack failures and power window regulators, that's it. That makes them some of the most reliable in that category, including Honda and Toyota.

Precisely the reason I bought my 2019 SEL Premium R-Line. Got it for $40,000, add the 6 yr / 72K mile warranty,... Great value!

Buick? Ew

Have you been in the new Buick?

@@gladdy02 Yes at the Chicago auto show last year.

That’s what I was referring to, most other cars allow you to adjust the custom mode while in motion

Veselin andreev Nobody pays any attention to, or buys, Buicks, except maybe the Chinese.

Waiting for the 2023 review lol

Who would buy that in America, seriously.

Yes. Kia reliability over German fussiness every day.

The 2.0 tsi engine is a very reliable engine, so no issues there! But I would buy the stinger too, because more power for the same price!

2.0t = cel( check engine light)

Doesn't the european version offer the amber lights that work with a motion effect?

Mark Chow yup

You made the right choice.

@Hyrena J I bet they survey people at the local supermarket and in the USA VWoA is staffed with morons, and the distributorship has NEVER been up to the job since the mid 1980s. They should fire the entire staff in Herdon, VA . I Call them the "Herndon Half-Wits".

Blame the DOT and their outdated headlight and taillight regulations.

I think it's just a matter of different coding nowadays, with LEDs, i.e. toggling a "switch."

And they are not dynamic turn signals like the European Arteons have. Audi A4 has them why not on the Arteon.

The only downside with Kias is resale value. However, you are right about the numbers and deals out there on the Stinger.

Definitely the VW..ota nicer looking..lools like I spent a lot of money..good job Alex

Why? The European R-Line steering wheel looks really ugly and cheap

@@Sartheris isn't it the same one that's in the Golf GTI / R?

Scotty Kilmer should not be a source for anything other than how much Drano can you safely cut your Cuttyshark with. That said, the Aisin is a reliable (if a little slow) transmission.

@@georgesnyder5337 - and who here doesn't like reliability!

This is approaching the price where "reliability focused buyers" are just buying a 4 cyl Camry or Corolla and puttiing the rest in CDs to pay for their next Camry or Corolla in 20 years.

Buick, so called, is German too. It's an Opel Insignia rebadged to Buick. It was 100% developed by Opel in Germany and is 100% a German car. Buick puts their badge on it. That's it.

I already knew the pedigree of the Buick and that's why it interests me as a ''soCal American'' car. The Vw products don't have good reputation for reliability and the American ones , in general , no more . Buick obtained the 3rd highest reliability status from Jdpowell '18 .Top model for Midsize : Chevrolet Malibu, Toyota Camry, Buick Regal . But when I see Malibu , I wonder what their credibility is...

@@martinmartin5904 the 2.0 tsi in this arteon is a very reliable engine! One of the best 4 cylinder engines that you can get!

You can, easily.

@@DMCarReviews or more...100 hp.

They are better but because of how they are made they will be more expensive than American mainstream brands so they'll end up adapting it for the US market making it cheaper and worse. That's because then the US will complain about the prices. Which I always wonder why because you guys pay so little for vehicles compared to the rest of the world anyway.

Isn't that amazing, since he is obviously a V8 gas guzzler type. Durango V8, 300 V8, Charger V8.

Kind of, but its actually the golf r engine and twin scroll turbo. With a base tune from APR for 699, it makes 349whp and 409tq on 93. When I bought mine, the MSRP was 48 and change. They sold it for 39. Super happy with it so far. It's also made in Germany as well

They should have a V6 option. I understand automakers are going with more efficient turbo-charged 4 cylinder engines. However, for $45k you can get a well optioned Audi A4 or A5 Sportback. Just my $0.02.

Discontinued in 2022

😂

Maybe if they decide to make it electric.E-tron Audi, R-teon VW.

And much higher depreciation.

Yep, drive an inferior in every way car and be proud of it.

@sprague49 They are supposed to be black...however I have always found black wheels make the car look half finished and looks like some boy ricer gimmick. The style isn't bad but black color is crap...

George Snyder I have this car in South Africa and it does have auto brake hold feature - switch right below the electronic handbrake

Eitan R sure. That doesn’t help anyone in the USA.

You put yourself in the front seat first. Then the front seat always are in the same driving position. After that you can messure the space behind. So it is best the test drive is high enough and not 1,50 meter high.

He doesn't. He measures combined front and rear seat legroom for the very reason you stated. It is a better way to compare across different vehicles.

- Few 25 year-olds can responsibly afford the $37K base price, not to mention the $47+ MSRP of the SEL Premium R Line. From those that can, very few would pick the VW over something more exciting/powerful. If you fall in that category, good for you, but you'd be the minority. There's a reason the Stinger is beating the Arteon in monthly sales by over 375%. - The Stinger is a 5 door coupe as well. They also compare very well in terms of price, features and dimensions. The Stinger wrecks it on power and warranty. - You claim a premium quality, the surveys claim otherwise. Kia has beat VW in reliability ratings with JD Power, Repair Pal, Forbes, and other reputable outlets. - You see premium finish, I see a Jetta's interior with a higher boost GTI engine on a $47k car. It's too expensive for what it offers, and not cheap enough to be of value. The older folks will buy a fully spec'd Avalon for 5K less, the younger guys will buy the Stinger for more power and RWD fun. Just like you can't justify buying the A7, I don't see why anyone would buy the Arteon over the Stinger. For comparable money you. get the same 5-door form factor, rear or all wheel drive, way more power, same tech, higher reliability ratings and a better warranty. That's just my opinion though; its your money and your choice, but you can't claim they don't compare well.

@@diggidys - This 'older folks' here is 65 and I love my Arteon SEL Premium R-Line. Can I afford it,... yes. The Avalon is boring!

@@patrickbolmeyer9515 I wouldn't call a 6 second 0-60 and a GTI interior exciting, but opinions are a dime a dozen. I'm glad you're enjoying your car and hope it continues to be that way.

@@diggidys Well said. To add to your comment, for $45k a fully loaded Arteon is under powered. There are too many options at that price point. I think VW missed the mark, and the Arteon might suffer the same fate as its "predecessor", the CC.

I will praise VW if they offer me an Arteon (or Passat) wagon. Not a big fan of SUV and crossover.

I know you don't love this trend but they just need to call the Passat Alltrack a 'crossover' and it'll sell decently to gullible people.

Sadly, VW has found that US consumers simply don't find their wagons appealing. The AWD Golf wagon, the AllTrack in the US, has been discontinued due to minuscule demand.

The Kia and Buick is not the same quality as this. And this is why you Americans will always get lesser made VWs and cheaper ones. You can't expect this type of quality for the price of the other mainstream vehicles. So you end up with a US Passat, a US Golf, a US Tiguan and so forth.

@@SDav21 I can't speak about the Buick interior, but the Kia is nicer than the VW. You should see for yourself.

@@johnholst Then you haven't seen the VW. The Kia still feels cheap.

@@SDav21 I have. You haven't seen the Stinger.

@@johnholst I have. Build quality nowhere near as good as the VW.