Serious Rattles & $10,000 Overpriced | 2020 Volkswagen Arteon Execline Review

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It seems to be a rarity that a car manufacturer will invest in a completely new car/sedan, but Volkswagen has. Does the Arteon live up to the hype? We find out!
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Here at TestDrive we love sedans & cars in general. When Volkswagen announced the Arteon we got excited that a new car was coming from the German manufacturer that would bring a premium experience from the European Passat to North America. Boy were we wrong. Our full tour and review of the 2020 Volkswagen Arteon Execline goes over everything you need to know if you're in the market for a $53,085.00 4 door lift-back coupe-style sedan.
Our 2020 test model is no different from the first year of production (2019) for the North American market. Our Execline is the only trim offered here in Canada, and we have two packages consisting of the Driver Assistance Package, and R-Line Package. The Arteon has full adaptive LED headlights, active cruise control with stop & go, lane keep assist, blind spot monitoring, rear cross traffic alert, power folding mirrors, power rear liftgate, keyless entry on the front doors, and automatic wipers.
Inside the Arteon is finished in a two-tone leather interior, with VW's 8" infotainment system with Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, SiriusXM Radio, and a 360 degrees camera. There's a three-colour mood light, LED interior lights, Volkswagen's Digital Cockpit, tri-zone automatic climate control, heated and ventilated front seats with power, drive memory, and driver massage, and rear outboard rear seats. The roof liner is black and has an oversized sunroof that Volkswagen advertises as panoramic.
We take the Arteon on a comprehensive road test during the winter to see how the 4motion AWD system works with it's front-wheel bias. We talk about the fuel economy, drive, ride, and road feel of this sedan, as well as the creaking and rattling we experienced during our week with this car.
We wrap up our full tour and review of the 2020 Volkswagen Arteon Execline by going over everything we liked, disliked, and what we'd suggest to buy. We also go over the sales numbers for this vehicle in the US, Canada, and globally, while looking at some of the direct competitors like the Kia Stinger and Audi A5.
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@FLJAMESFL 4 жыл бұрын

Love my 2019 Arteon SEL Premium R-line with 4 Motion. Got a great deal with COVID-19, 5000 off sticker with 0% for 72 months and 180 days before first payment is due. Wow.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that, hope you enjoy it! It’s a good car, just pricey for what you get, so if you’re able to get a good deal like it sounds you should be set.

@michaelbuffington4047 3 жыл бұрын

That is a great deal

@ccvr6 3 жыл бұрын

What's the payment on it?

@sylent6 3 жыл бұрын

@@ccvr6 around ~$568 for 72 months

@patrickbolmeyer9515 4 жыл бұрын

Purchased my 2019 VW Arteon SEL Premium R-Line late October 2019. MSRP was $48,500 USD. Final sale price was 39,500 not including taxes. Had the APR+ Tune installed before delivery for $1,200 and NO, it doesn't void the 6 year/72K mile warranty. She's up to 359 hp and torque now. Gas mileage on highway is ~35mpg but on a long highway trips I believe it will do closer to 40. Love this car and NEVER considered the Stinger. Not a V6 person.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear you're enjoying yours, thats most important!

@alexr.7497 4 жыл бұрын

Bs. I have had mine for almost a year, and have had no rattle issues. Excellent car! Thumbs down 👎

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to say it's not an excellent car by any stretch of the imagination, I'm not a VW fanboi though so 🤷🏻‍♂️

@alexr.7497 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive One the best cars for the money, and you judge it by some random rattle you had. I will say again, dumb kindergarten nonsense. Did Kia pay you to make this review or something? Seems like it. Quietest car in it's class. Car and Driver rated it at 64 decibels at 70mph, which is on par with the new Audi A8L. You have done absolutely no research.

@scottdawson9437 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexr.7497 Ive had my Arteon for over a year now and I regret buying it. It's not an excellent car in my opinion. I've had built quality issues since day 1 practically. My whole interior pretty much rattles I can't even pin point most of them. I've had transmission issues, sensors not working, and I could go on... definitely not one of the best cars for the money. It's overpriced. I have the SE/Rline model which sticker right at 40k very little standard features at the price. I could get a new Hyundai Sonata N line with 300hp with every feature available for under 40k. Very few people are buying the Arteon in the US and I would bet it'll be discontinued soon. Wish I would have done research before I purchased my Arteon.

@memopadilla5931 3 жыл бұрын

@@scottdawson9437 Are you going to replace soon ??

@5.0uglykey51 2 жыл бұрын

You lucky I got a 2019 Jetta check engine light won’t turn off with wiper blades that will stop mid action , and a remote start that won’t work with the check engine light lol still like it though it

@cwfinger 4 жыл бұрын

Bought my SEL AWD w/ R-Line used with 2000 miles for just over $35,000. At that price point it seemed like a great option. So far I’ve been very pleased!

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

USD? Either way that sounds like a great deal, congrats!

@cwfinger 4 жыл бұрын

PRN_TestDrive Yup! I wasn’t looking to buy anything until mid 2020 but couldn’t pass it up. And since it was used VW certified it which gave me an extra year on the warranty. Now 7 yr/84,000. Great review by the way!

@thanosv1168 4 жыл бұрын

I dont usually comment on car review videos but this was great. I loved your honesty and that you were not just kissing volkswagens ass like a lot of other reviewers when it comes to this car. Subscribed to this channel right away. Excited to see your other car reviews.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate that, thanks! We don't kiss anyone's ass here, and we call it the way we see it. We were just as honest about the 2019 Rabbit GTI we did, but we had a lot of upset VW enthusiasts take issue with our thoughts on that one.

@MikeMUFC91 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2021 and don’t have any rattles at all. Also the updates are far nicer than the previous model.

@PRNTestDrive 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear it's working out for you.

@kelvinkelvin1335 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your honest presentation. Great job bro, cheers! Keep it up👍

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you think so, thanks! Some people get upset when I don't sugarcoat VWs like a lot of other reviewers.

@mikenickg4751 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed your review, just a question for you, do you think with the new facelift version is enough to make this car worth the price tag ? I am hoping they bring the 300HP version to Australia.

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

I still don't think it's worth the pricetag if all they're doing is adding a few features and design changes. Ideally this car needs more power and an actual up-scale interior. I don't have high hopes for it unfortunately, especially after driving the 2020 Passat (NMS) a few weeks back.

@heyitsme939 4 жыл бұрын

That car is so beautiful though! inside and out!

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

There's no doubt that the car is handsome.

@bimmerlife5452 4 жыл бұрын

This one most beautiful cars out on market so sexi I’ll take it over any Kia out there with APR stage 2 ecu tune pushes 410tq amazing car

@maximzaslavskiy5980 4 жыл бұрын

Stage 1 puts it at 368hp/386tq.

@karinapavlova2855 4 жыл бұрын

Well said! Same here.

@aayonce4 4 жыл бұрын

How do you get a tune?

@bimmerlife5452 4 жыл бұрын

Aayonce Either search for a APR to stage 1-2-3 or neuspeed piggyback they have it for arton

@bimmerlife5452 4 жыл бұрын

Maxim Zaslavskiy I have new GLI Nuespeed piggy back running 7psi I’m pushing 340tq 315hp amazing how it pulls no joke I’ll pull on V8 muscle cars np

@maytaff 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. Waited and waited for this to go on sale in America. Got tired of waiting and got an Audi A6 and haven’t regretted it. Kinda disappointed that this isn’t what I had hoped for.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

You probably got a much better experience with the A6 anyway. I feel bad for the Arteon, I really wanted to love it.

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

The front reminds me of my Track 5 razor (although there are 6 blades here). Hard to forget the comparison once you look at it (like the Toyota Camry XSE)

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Or even the new Toyota Avalon, has a similar grille design, though the Avalon takes up way more real estate.

@REDTIB03GT 4 жыл бұрын

currently have a 2016 jetta hybrid and was curious about the Arteon but yeah the price! I expect in VW fashion the depreciation will be massive and I'm more inclined to wait two years to let someone else take the hit. Great review and a thoroughly unbiased no cliches, no puns just talked about the car well done!

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting, I appreciate it. I like to approach these reviews from an information-based foundation rather than trying to just entertain viewers with fancy scripts and rehearsed punchlines. I had high hopes for the Arteon, I've started to spot more of them on the road recently but the price is still the limiting factor for me. I imagine the re-sale market will bring pricing down considerably, however most Canadian dealers are still trying to get full-MSRP on 2019 models left in inventory.

@neil9658 4 жыл бұрын

When you factor in cost do you think it makes more sense go with the Arteon or a Passat?

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Personally I'd take the Passat if those were the only two choices. Unless you absolutely need to stand out and have a bit more power, the Passat does everything just as well as the Arteon for a fraction of the price. We've booked the 2020 Passat for early August, so we'll be going over the facelift-facelift-facelift for this generation Passat.

@swanblake 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this honest review! Very well done. Yeah I just could not buy this over a Kia Stinger. Crazy that this costs as much as an Audi A5 and the interior falls very short. The European versions interior looks more like 53k interior. The new Golf 8 has no like 5 buttons and the rest is touch screens. I think it's a step backwards and not looking forward to that spreading to there other vehicles

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Manufacturers seem to be moving in the touchscreen direction for interior design, especially the Volkswagen Group. I spent a few minutes in the Urus earlier this year and everything is a screen.

@alexr.7497 4 жыл бұрын

The interiors of either models are merely identical beside the steering wheel. The US SEL R-Line has massaging seats and nappa. What other car has that for under 50k?

@henripaszkiewicz7965 4 жыл бұрын

Got mine a 2019. A month ago with $7500 off 0% interest over 72 months with the SEL trim. Six year 72 mile warranty. I have 3200 miles on it so far. This is an awsome car. My last car was a 2009 Lexus LS 460 and my wife drives a 2002 Lexus IS 300.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you’re enjoying yours, sounds like you ended up paying what you should have, that’s about how much the Arteon is overpriced in the North American market.

@VQ.Family 4 жыл бұрын

I really like the exterior styling but it would be nice to have a NA v6 or v8 engine option

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think we'll see either happen unfortunately, but it would be nice.

@salavalos 2 жыл бұрын

I test drove the 2021 AWD and it had jerky acceleration from a stop and it did have an occasional rattle. These two things turned me off. Thanks for the great review!

@PRNTestDrive 2 жыл бұрын

I personally wouldn't buy this car. If VW gave it to me for free I'd drive it, because who gives up a free car. But I wouldn't spend any money on this. Huge disappointment.

@levigato125 4 жыл бұрын

Did anyone notice the driver seat upper bolster looked like a wet towel already? The car only has 15,000 km on it.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Often the press cars gets worn-in a lot faster than a typical car might, journalists tend to be a little rougher than they should. But it's definitely not something you should be noticing within the first year of ownership.

@slantblant1 4 жыл бұрын

I need to know what the R-line stands for in the VW lineup.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

VW is using their 'R' brand in the same way they use 'S' for Audi, it's meant to be their sporty design, on most of their vehicles the design looks similar to the Golf R, hence where the R-Line comes from.

@garyallman3039 4 жыл бұрын

It is purely cosmetic on the Arteon. Don't confuse R with R-line.

@slantblant1 4 жыл бұрын

Gary Allman Ok I see, that was the problem. I was thinking Golf R compared to GTI, performance boost. Lol ok I see now. Thanks

@andrewthach1989 4 жыл бұрын

My 2019 arteon rattles and I'm trying to track where it's coming from. Sounds like it's from the passenger side door.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

This one sounded like it was coming from the passenger side also, but more like the dashboard area.

@evanyoder1451 4 жыл бұрын

I have had numerous rattles from Arteon. The doors are poorly insulated and I can't listen to any bass or else all the doors rattle. I have a rattle from the glove box and I think its coming from the CD player and I hear a lot of creaks/noise from the fake portion of the AC vent. Very disappointed in the Arteon. I came from a 17 Passat that was extremely solid and a lot less money.

@evsvdb 11 ай бұрын

Great video. I think it might be just your model overall. Other videos said it rides smooth and quiet. But I was looking at a 2019. For the price now for 2019, do you think its a good buy? I think its about 25 to 27k for 35k mikes roughly.

@PRNTestDrive 11 ай бұрын

In the used market they’re probably decent buys, depreciation seems to have brought the prices down to a manageable number. Considering VW’s current vehicle lineup basically looks like this you can get a 2019 and it’ll still feel like what a 2023 would have.

@evsvdb 11 ай бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive ok thank you. I one more quick question. I don't really care about spend or sport etc. I like comfort and luxury. Of course how a car is build, longevity, maintenance, gas etc. But comfort luxury and some nice gadgets. Which is better to you from what I explained, Arteon or Stinger? Thank you for your time!

@hertzvador2220 4 жыл бұрын

I quite like the exterior, shame interior is so boring (Base Mazda6 for half the money feels more premium!)

@krystiankukulski8054 4 жыл бұрын

100%

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

It's a real shame they went with a cookie cutter interior design that's been around since the last decade.

@gsengle 4 жыл бұрын

I much prefer this subdued/classy interior to say the Nissan or Mazda...

@panzer_TZ 4 жыл бұрын

I have to say that after a year and 25,000 miles of driving on horrible San Antonio roads, I've been super impressed by the interior quality of my 2018 Mazda6 Grand Touring Reserve. Not only are the touch points and interior materials high quality, but it's built as solid as a true luxury car. Most other similarly priced cars feel a like creaking/rattling mess now. The 2020 Maxima I rented two weeks ago in LA was nice, but with only 3,000 miles on it creaked/rattled like mad.

@mazdaman0075 4 жыл бұрын

6:39 Can’t even get the body/trunk lined up properly (check the left tail light)

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I noticed that also, there were some fit & finish issues on the exterior of this.

@sylent6 3 жыл бұрын

I notice that in the cc as well. Wth?

@TheKeenMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

Great video mate.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it, thanks! I'm always worried what the reaction will be when I'm critical of VW.

@TheKeenMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive I know what you mean, but you have to be honest and people who watch know you well so in my opinion you did an outstanding job with this review

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that 😀

@LandRoverDS2020 3 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind the Kia won't hold its value like a VW. None the less good honest video. Arteon is a rare car on the road and that's what I like. Plus squeaks and rattles are not for ever, get the dealer to address the issues and happy motoring.

@paulm6481 4 жыл бұрын

To me it looks beautiful. So much better than that catfish Hyundai’s new Sonata. Or Hodge-podge designed Stinger. Those looks are worth it. So Harmonious. Really sad they don’t give it a higher performance V6. Stinger kills it in performance. Still, if you are into arts and design school of buying, nothing else in the market in segment compares. Gorgeous. Compare It to next level for looks, like to a Volvo for looks or Audi bigger brother. Gorgeous.

@gerardjoaquino8856 4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Would rather have this than a Kia.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

There's no doubt the exterior design with the Arteon is fantastic, I really love the look of it. I'd never buy it though, maybe in a few years when these hit CPO, but even a 2017 VW CC in my area is still asking around $30k used.

@dextersmithbsee 4 жыл бұрын

Looks ain't everything. By far.

@jpw5722 4 жыл бұрын

Great quality car love it

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Hey we're glad you like it!

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

Apart from looks what is the advantage of having 20 inch wheels?

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Zero advantage. Makes the ride a little worse, and you'll end up damaging them easier if you hit a pothole.

@fredbrochu8322 4 жыл бұрын

For some high end sport car, you need huge wheels to fit their massive brakes in them. Low profile tire can help with handling too. Otherwise, it's mostly aesthetic.

@Tonyx.yt. 4 жыл бұрын

feel the bumps? spend more on new tires? increase wheel weight? only cons

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

I got a 3 1/2 hr drive in an S Mercedes; he hit a pothole and the sidewall ended up bulging out (I presume the tire needed replacing) after hitting a pothole on a major highway. Probably a $400+ tire

@lukerinderknecht2982 4 жыл бұрын

imo, they don't even look good either

@markamd1 4 жыл бұрын

I own a 2015 VW CC 3.6L R-LINE. One of the very last VR6 motors...sadly :( Love the CC. This Arteon needs a VR6 motor, 4 cylinders is just not enough for this hunk of a beast of a Car. Thanks for sharing!

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

After driving this we've set our eyes on featuring a CC, it looks like a proper attempt to make a seriously good sedan.

@fredbrochu8322 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like if this car was AWD with RWD bias and had between 300-350hp/tq, it would have a chance to sell at that price. Now I fear even VW most hardcore fanboy wouldn't buy it, and we all know that a fanboy of any german brand is one hell of a fanboy.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised the fanbois haven’t come to downvote my video in droves like usual. I wouldn’t expect them to go RWD since MQB is designed as a F/4 platform, but at least more power. We always had a saying in real estate back when I was practicing, everything always comes down to price, and it’s the same for the Arteon. A lower price would fix the power/drivetrain setup complaint, but even with a boost in that department it still needs an MSRP adjustment, I doubt dealerships want to discount these already.

@Onkelrico 4 жыл бұрын

I consider myself a VAG fanboi, but have to agree with everything said in the video. Creaking is actually the felt covered weatherstriping. They need a lot of maintenance. 😉 VAG is pissing me off lately with their cost cutting for the USA market. Biggest turn off for me was the fact it doesn’t have the DSG transmission. I just bought a 2019 7speed DSG Golf R right after I saw how fugly the new Golf looks that was just launched in Europe. First time I bought the same car twice. The 2019 replaced my 2016. Normally I trade in for the new model, but I’ll skip the 8.

@Whoisacosta 2 жыл бұрын

I just bought mine fully loaded for 29k 22,000 miles with the white interior

@PRNTestDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a decent enough deal, I hope you enjoy it!

@heyitsme939 4 жыл бұрын

The Arteon has the 8" Discover Media system, which is the latest infotainment system from Volkswagen. However, it is not the highest-end, that would be the 9.25" Discover Pro system, which is only found on the e-Golf in the states. Why Volkswagen doesn't include this system on the Arteon or Golf R in the US/Canada is very surprising to me.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

All comes down to cost cutting unfortunately.

@magellanmax 4 жыл бұрын

VW builds the Arteon only in Germany and incurs the high cost of labor & other production costs. This car is actually more expensive in the German market than it is here in the US. If they ever opened an assembly plant in Mexico, this car should drop by almost $10 to $12 thousand in the North American market.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I guarantee if VW built this in Mexico they’d charge the exact same MSRP and boost their profits on it.

@NZsarge1 4 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t have the new interior design language because it’s actually already a couple of years old in production

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

That's a great point, but this interior design language really hasn't evolved from the 2011Jetta's interior.

@NZsarge1 4 жыл бұрын

PRN_TestDrive No but that typical for German manufactures, nothing changes much until there’s wholesale wide the as models get changed they get rolled out with the variations of new designs. It is a shame that the Arteon didn’t pick up VW’s new interiors (Golf 8, latest Touareg). After watching your video I went to check the pricing strategy (opposed to the base Audi A5 Sportback) and I discovered that the Arteon is no longer on their website in the New Zealand market which does and doesn’t surprise me given they a. They’re a fresh model and b. They haven’t sold well here either which is unfortunate, our version has over 300hp and is fairly heavily specced but it was the one and only version you could buy short of changing the rims and adding a sunroof I think.

@V.D.22 4 жыл бұрын

2:01 that epic forest!!!

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

VW nailed it with the location on that clip, I just wish whoever they used to hold the camera didn’t shake it around so violently all the time.

@SK-jy9pw 3 жыл бұрын

Arteon vs stinger gt awd vs dodge challenger gt awd? Which one wins

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Stinger GT for me, easy winner. Dodge Challenger isn’t a bad car but it’s old tech now, would be nice if FCA ever does a full update for it.

@SK-jy9pw 3 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive im just confuse between stinger gt and challenger gt, i know the price is the same, will look whay incentives I can get 2021 models on both cars, cheapest one wins lol

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

You get less power with the Challenger GT, since it’s just a naturally aspirated V6 versus the Stinger’s twin-turbo V6. You’d probably be able to get a better deal on the Challenger though, FCA usually has good incentives on their vehicles.

@SK-jy9pw 3 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive thats what i was thinking, I have better chances of getting a good price for my challenger gt, also I can order the way I want it. I do like the stinger gt but those cars are in demand and getting a deal similar to a challenger gt would be an issue. I know quality comparison, stinger is better in lomg term.

@Caldwell1234 4 жыл бұрын

No heads up display or garage homelink ? You serious ?

@pleblond9372 Жыл бұрын

Did I just see Acton Vale in the Nav screen at 2:55?

@PRNTestDrive Жыл бұрын

Yup, we filmed episodes of this show in Acton Vale for about 5 years.

@metalslug26 Жыл бұрын

I got my 2019 Arteon SEL 4motion non-R Line used with 40k miles for 25k out the door. Owned it for 6 months now and it's good so far. I was looking to getting a used MK7 GTI as a daily commuter car. But a used GTI was only 2k less for a good example that wasn't abused, by a teenager. I made the right decision on getting an Arteon, it's a perfect family sedan. The design of the car is great and I love the hatch. It's like owning an avant or wagon which I love. The Arteon needed some TLC and got it sorted out. I'm the 40 year old teenager and already considering a Stage 1 tune and upgraded Audi TTS 4pot brakes for the front with a few other tastful mods. Stage 1 will put the Arteon at almost 350hp which is plenty of power.

@PRNTestDrive Жыл бұрын

Fair enough, hope it works out well for you!

@fed234 4 жыл бұрын

The interior looks the same as my 2019 jetta! No creaks and rattles tho...

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that you aren't having any rattling on your Jetta. The interior on all of these VWs is identical, always reminds me of my friend's 2010 Jetta.

@toreyburse1324 3 жыл бұрын

Looks nice. I think $10,000 over price is about right. I've seen the videos with the creaking and rattling. Has me regressing a purchase.

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

The Arteon is probably my biggest disappointment since starting this show, I had high expectations for it being a premium offering from VW but it ultimately doesn't live up to the price point. Even the mild facelift won't be enough to convince me.

@sylent6 3 жыл бұрын

The seven speed dual clutch should have been on the American market when that car was released. Until that changes I’m still going to utilize and drive my 2013 cc sports plus

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of things VW really needs to add before this thing will truly be worth the price they want for it.

@veselinandreev269 4 жыл бұрын

The Arteon is a direct interior copy of the Passat B8 and it was introduced in March 2017. It has now been adapted for North America, but this does not make it a new model, far from it. In Europe it has a more lively 7 speed DSG gearbox(manuals are very limited, not available any more) and it makes much more sense. It has a wide range of smaller engines and is sold as a prettier version of the Passat - with only a 1500-2500 price premium. It is also meant to compete with BMW 4 series Grand Coupe. In similar trim/engine it is 15-20% cheaper then this car.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

It seems to only make sense in VW's domestic market. Here in Canada a 2019 BMW 430i Gran Coupe starts at $53,250.00, sure it doesn't come with all the same features, but it's still a BMW. Unfortunately the only way the Arteon will work in Canada is if the price drops down, and that probably only happens if they build them in Mexico.

@veselinandreev269 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive Exactly so. I keep getting amazed by the prices you get. Just looked up a 430i xDrive. The starting price in Europe translates to 71,147 CAD. Stinger GT starts(and ends) at 86 517 CAD. A euro spec Passat B8 starts at 45 000 CAD, pretty much bone naked with a 150hp engine. The same goes for the Arteon. The car you tested would cost around 60 000 CAD here. Still much cheaper then the BMW and the KIA. So yeah - I'm glad for you. :))

@Moisi547 4 жыл бұрын

Not too long they'll discontinue this from the north American market because of sales numbers

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I'll be surprised if they continue into 2021 at this rate. I wanted to use the Stinger's first year of sales in our discussion to see what they looked like, in case there was a drop across the board in sales, and while the Stinger did lose traction in 2019 (second year), the sales were pretty strong, especially compared with the Arteon.

@Moisi547 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive This is another miss opportunity for VW.

@jimjo09 4 жыл бұрын

Great review - I agree VW missed an opportunity to produce a great sport sedan. I drive a Mazda 6 2.5T 2019 (GT trim) and I have quite a bit more torque (310), a little less HP (250), with a better interior (in my opinion), and wait for it... a Heads-up display! also no rattling : ) all this for 15K cheaper.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

No rattling for sure! I really couldn't believe how bad this car rattled, our mic didn't pick it up but even my wife commented on it the first time I took her out in it.

@jimjo09 4 жыл бұрын

PRN_TestDrive crazy for that price point

@maximzaslavskiy5980 4 жыл бұрын

The Arteon will still demolish that Mazda in any race.

@jimjo09 4 жыл бұрын

@@maximzaslavskiy5980They're actually very close - the Arteon edges the Mazda 6 T very slightly 0 to 60 = 6 secs (Arteon); 6.3 Mazda 6 T; quarter mile = 14.8 Arteon; 15 Mazda ... Demolish? No - for the price point difference - Mazda wins

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

Good review. Can't imagine the people at VW will like it as much, though

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

They need a bit of truth once and a while. I feel that most of the videos I watch on VW content always gush and rave about how amazing the cars are, but then again I've never been a VW fanboi. This car could have been great, and I was hoping it would be. Maybe they'll look at the sales of this car and realize something needs to change.

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive I tend to agree. I rented a Passat in Germany 2 years ago. It was really nothing special.

@dextersmithbsee 4 жыл бұрын

This is a great honest review of the Arteon. VW in general doesn't seem to get why they can't outsell Toyota worldwide. This car is a prime example of why Kia, Hyundai, Honda and Toyota is really cornering the sedan market. NOBODY is going to buy this car over a Lexus ES350 with sexy looks, comfort, stellar build quality (no creaks and rattles!) and supreme reliability. And let us not forget the diesel scandal. How can you trust a car manufacturer that was so brazen as to assume that everyone else in the world were just idiots when they presented these bogus figures to the US EPA? This is not a formula for success in this market. By the way, the sedan market in the US (save Toyota, Honda, Kia and Hyundai) is a tough sell these days. VW isn't helping this issue with this offering.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

The Lexus ES looks incredible by comparison. I mean the Lexus is already great to begin with.

@alexpak8611 4 жыл бұрын

Was gonna get an arteon in 2 months and thankfully saw this honest video. Having mixed feelings now :|

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

In the used market this might be a steal, but I was very disappointed, as I had high hopes for it.

@Dblackmon1993 3 жыл бұрын

Dont have mixed feelings ivr had this car for sometimes and it absolutely love it! Great power and its gorgeous

@yofi1978 3 жыл бұрын

I just tried a 2019 2615 km used one. Beautiful car!! But you’re right, lots of rattles and it’s almost new! The price is great but rattles are bugging me.

@GamingAplication 4 жыл бұрын

Sad to see this actually :/ Im from EU and I have a, soon 22 years old, Passat B5 (its been in my family for 8 years) and it has been very reliable and its still going strong. I like VWs very much but this is pretty disappointing to see what VW is doing. Sadly it seems that most of the companies are going on the "make more money" route. Great video!

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Everyone wants to make more and sell more, while delivering less. It’s unfortunate, but one of the reasons we love doing the classic cars here in TestDrive.

@ojdidit84 4 жыл бұрын

l have 2014 CC and was looking forward to the Arteon. I love the exterior but the completely missed the mark on the interi or. The interior from the Atlas or Euro spec Passat would've looked great in the Arteon.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty disappointed with this overall. I had high expectations for it, but VW half-assed it.

@maximzaslavskiy5980 4 жыл бұрын

The Arteons interior is directly out of the Euro Passat🤦‍♂️

@bitekr2045 4 жыл бұрын

i honestly like CC better. Especially the R-Line and VW used to offer it with manual transmission :)

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I think a gently used CC looks pretty good by comparison, they're still a little pricey here for a few years old.

@aayonce4 4 жыл бұрын

I'm only getting this because it is exclusive. I only driver exclusive cars. 2011 Nissan Murano Cross Cab 2019 Ford Flex and im getting this at the end of the year. Or next year to give my accord coupe a nice long break.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I've started to spot a couple more of them on the road, in fact I've seen two so far this month in my limited trips out of the house. It is a really good looking car, it's just too bad Canadian dealers are still asking full MSRP on 2019 models.

@ericteather8619 4 жыл бұрын

dealer discounts make this car really great.... SEL-P R level in the US for under $40K

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe the dealers in the US are able to do better deals, a quick search on AutoTrader.ca shows that you might be able to get a few thousand off MSRP with a demo, but the rest that are listed seem to be for about full price.

@michaelewan5265 4 жыл бұрын

This car as configured costs closer to 55K with freight and PDI. That's Tesla model 3 territory. Before the rebates are applied. That's also part of the reason for the low sales numbers.

@bradleypollack5658 4 жыл бұрын

Buy one driven off the lot. It will be in the Jetta price range.

@maximzaslavskiy5980 4 жыл бұрын

@@bradleypollack5658 Same for any other car in its class🤷‍♂️

@wombat7366 3 жыл бұрын

Deeply discounted now in the US. You can get an R-Line for $37K.

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

That's never a good sign for the health of a car's marketability if they're being heavily discounted to get them out of dealership lots.

@MobiusThreeMusic 4 жыл бұрын

I'd just look for a used A5 sportback. If I didn't already have a stinger, that is.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

The Stinger is still the way to go 😉

@jbm0866 3 жыл бұрын

The problem is Audi exists and VW doesnt want to hurt Audi sales by making a less expensive car with the people car logo on it. Thing is, I really really like the Arteon, to my eyes it looks better than the A7 and the missing features arent a big deal to me..this is a well equipped car. Having said that, you're spot on that it's overpriced..and thats in the U.S. as well. If this was a car that topped out at $45k with every option possible..it would be a great deal. I believe we get a base model Arteon in the U.S., but its still priced like some loaded models of some very compelling competition. VW has simply never taken the North American market seriously enough to become the big player here they claim to want to be. Sure they made the Atlas (biggest VW ever) with our market in mind and to take advantage of the current crossover craze...but why are we denied the T-roc? Even tiny Mazda has 4 crossover models in North America including the CX-3 which is a wee bit smaller than the T-roc.

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Price is ultimately what's going to kill this car. I spot maybe 1 on the road every couple months here.

@jpolimus 4 жыл бұрын

Bought a cc brand new that car was buggy. Matter of fact it has been sitting for a solid year now. Not getting another vw until they up their reliability

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

VW hasn't ever been known for their reliability, though people seem to think they are.

@jpolimus 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive I was one of those people

@jesusHernandez-ed9hi 4 жыл бұрын

I've seen 0 yet when I went they were saying it was gonna sell like hot bread

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

That was what VW was expecting, the worst part of this whole situation is Passat sales have flatlined in the US because of it.

@superiortoall22 4 жыл бұрын

Lol I got one and I’m the only person so far that I’ve seen with it. I get a lot of compliments on it though

@piercetonmazell9402 4 жыл бұрын

Alot to do with the passat sales is due too them not manufacturing them for a whole year! They should have continued at least up until the new Passat was ready for sale

@A_guan 4 жыл бұрын

If it had a V6 and had Golf R driving dynamics I'd get it over a Kia Stinger

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

That's what I was hoping for when they first announced it. I feel like they had half the formula right, make a sexy attractive sedan, but then they didn't bother with the engine/suspension.

@dg7438 4 жыл бұрын

My '16 GOLF TSI SE's interior looks as good as this lol

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

My buddy had a 2010 Jetta and its interior looked about as good as this too.

@alexr.7497 4 жыл бұрын

I am sure the 2016 Optima SX-L looks as good as the new Stinger GT, without the tablet screen exception.That's called brand styling.

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

I hate panoramic sunroofs.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of people out there who feel the same way, not many manufacturers give buyers the option anymore, FCA is one of the few that keeps a sunroof as a standalone feature.

@GENTILJEN 4 жыл бұрын

Feel the same way

@a_ricky 4 жыл бұрын

I waited for the Arteon to come here and ended up disappointed. I have an 09 VW CC w/VR6 and I wasn't impressed with Arteon for it's price. The four banger is loud, the transmission gets lost during shifts, and has some serious nvh issues. When you have a car that's over 10 years old that feels nicer than a car off the showroom floor, that's a problem. My old CC has less creaks, rattles, and engine vibration than this Arteon. The only benefit of the Arteon is the tech and more modern looks.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

After driving this I want to check out the CC, I was looking at some of the 2017s for sale and they look a lot more promising than this. Definitely hold onto yours!

@socialjusticeinitiatives3082 4 жыл бұрын

I concur,after test driving the arteon I was left unimpressed,because I have the cc rline sport and its super awesome the arteon is just over priced

@alexr.7497 4 жыл бұрын

The Arteon is way more refined than a CC. Days better than my 2014 CC was. It's way quicker too. Car and Driver measured 64 decibels at 70mph, which is on par with the Audi A8L. Your observations are very wrong.

@alexr.7497 4 жыл бұрын

@@socialjusticeinitiatives3082 The fact that it's out of your budget, does not mean it's not a good car.

@socialjusticeinitiatives3082 4 жыл бұрын

Sharif Armstrong the fact that you have been hoodwinked still doesn't mean it's a good car...

@austenrichardgeorge842 4 жыл бұрын

Lexus ES 350 $45k Canadian. Toyota Avalon fully loaded with panoramic sunroof is $47k with everything. And Lexus has a 6 year 110,000Km standard power train warranty. VW is expensive to repair and you will need to repair a lot more than Lexus/Toyota. Genysis G70 365hp V6 is $52k and the Stinger top spec is $50k. The Arteon looks awesome - yellow is great. But it's just all show.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Much better vehicles out there, much better prices also.

@amzab123 4 жыл бұрын

I too have only seen one on the roads here in Quebec. Stunning car from the outside and... well, Volkswagen on the interior. Not bad, but for 50 grand you can buy a 2020 Lexus ES and I’d be hard pressed to find anything better in the arteon. Not to mention the lexus will give you reliability, a V6, and a much more “executive” look. To sum it up, this feels like more of a lease car but even then I can’t justify leasing it for that price

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't justify leasing it either. I should have looked at the Lexus ES, you're the second one to mention it now. While you lose out on AWD, the 2020 ES 300 with the Premium Package is about $3k less (MSRP), and if you go with the Luxury Package which adds almost everything you'd really want at this price point, you're only spending about $3k more than the Arteon.

@SaraK_69 4 жыл бұрын

I agree, I was underwhelmed driving the Arteon. My 2015 BMW 3 series was the same exact price and is LOADS better! They need to lower the price, and replace the outdated Passat with this.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Price is ultimately the problem with this, fix that and it’s much more attractive.

@SaraK_69 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive I agree, I only looked at it because I need Android Auto and my Bimmer is too cool for it. Even my GTI has Android Auto wtf? Anyhow, I loved how the Arteon looks but yeah I felt pretty much the same way as you did. Good review, keep up the great work!

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@maximzaslavskiy5980 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive Can't afford it, don't buy it. It's nicer than an A5 Sportback. Paid $43,000 for my Arteon after rebates...love the car. Worth every dollar.

@jeremysomeone 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful vehicle. Wish it came with a V6. Would still buy this over a Hyundai.

@massivevx 4 жыл бұрын

I’m only scared about quality control on Volkswagen I owned a 2006 Passat 2.0T B6 . man o man that car had problems, I’m curious how the new VW cars fair up after all the quality problems and smog scandal.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Considering I had some pretty loud rattling already on this car wasn't a good sign, but I hope they've made a solid product for this price point. It'll be interesting to see how these end up on the used market in 5 years.

@2ride_along 3 жыл бұрын

Kia Stinger? I would choose VW anyday.....

@johnanaman943 4 жыл бұрын

you hate everything about this car, then don't drive it, how can you be comparing this car to s class.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I don't hate everything about this car. I hate the price and the piss-poor materials that make the car rattle like a 1994 Dodge Ram.

@robmcd436 3 жыл бұрын

VW rely heavily on their dedicated fans to carry the company. You are bang on when talking about the company reusing old parts. In the U.K. they don’t even fit electric seats to their alleged premium model. How crass and a blatant rip off is that? You can see the same penny pinching with the new MK 8 Golf where they have fitted a down graded digital display and removed all the soft linings to the pockets and glove box. The Arteon has nose dived in the U.K due to its rip-ff pricing you have more chance of meeting the Pope than an Arteon. One would think that VW would have learnt its lesson about ripping off its customers with Diesel-gate, alas but no. Having said all that I have just brought a 5 month old R Line 190ps with 5k on clock. £15k off the list price. It is after all a lovely Passat in a frock!

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong with one when there's a deal on it! Sounds like you got a good deal on it. Cheers!

@Caldwell1234 4 жыл бұрын

Most all other reviewers mention that the car is a little underpowered although they still love the driving dynamics of this car,as well as a few other minor issues, however non except you that (I have read)have mentioned anything about rattling.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Personally I find a lot of automotive journalists and vloggers are completely in love with VW and fanboi over their vehicles, often leaving out any negative points about the vehicles.

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

The big knock on VW is reliability.

@gsengle 4 жыл бұрын

10tenman10 my golf R was flawless for 7 years, and this car comes with class leading 6 year 72k mile warranty...

@lukerinderknecht2982 4 жыл бұрын

@@gsengle and my 2011 Golf was a total lemon. Repairs were way to expensive too.

@vegasman33322 4 жыл бұрын

Here in the states that car has a price tag of $47,000,the stinger GT1,the Genesis g70 with a 3.3 turbo engine, and the Lexus gs 350 are far superior vehicles at that price point completely agree with you great review

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

It's so strange, recently we've noticed that a lot of sedans sold here in Canada have the same dollar amount in the US, but based on the exchange rate it ends up costing way more down there. That's about $62,000 CAD when you do the exchange, and it's definitely not worth that.

@JT-fq2bl 4 жыл бұрын

Add the Kia Cadenza on the list as well. All those cars can give the Arteon a run for its money, and that's before the mid cycle upgrades.

@mrjones1988 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful car cant wait to get mine

@Almodovar333 4 жыл бұрын

Was this a Kia Stinger ad? :)

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Still waiting on that cheque from Kia Canada for this one 😂

@ELP1125 3 жыл бұрын

Oh that red is sexy., VW loves horizontal lines I see. I must agree that car manufacturers need to have an entry level pricing on a good amount of models. Because without that cult following of BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, etc, charging a lot for a Volkswagen isn't going to sell well. I think that's why Kia/Hyundai is booming...cheap prices, but quality product.

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I suppose the Passat is now designed to be the entry-level pricing for the Arteon as the 2020 facelift changes some of the interior/exterior design cues to match this.

@davidkolean6008 4 жыл бұрын

The Arteon is a Niche car that wont take any sales away from the Passat as the Passat tops out at $33k U.S and anyone looking to spend $33k isnt going to spend over $40 to get the Arteon. The Arteon interior is done exceptionally well especially when you compare it to its competitors.

@tbatong3983 4 жыл бұрын

David Kolean Maybe a used passat without extras for 33, not a new one, vw have made the prices higher they Said. And i guess they can because everyone still buy

@Marshal_Dunnik 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't learn their lesson with the Phaeton, I suppose.

@NeutralGenericUser 4 жыл бұрын

Well, the Phaeton was actually a nice car. It had a lot of reliability issues, but it introduced a ton of tech, features, and some serious engineering prowess. This, on the other hand, is a parts bin scavenging effort by VW. Nothing unique, poor drivetrain, overpriced. The only thing it has going for it is looks, and that's pretty subjective. Personally, I think it looks ok, but not all that great. I'd personally much rather get an Acura TLX SHAWD A-Spec; starts at $42.5k and is fully loaded at $49k, or maybe a Stinger, or spend more and get an Audi A5. The options are endless.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I agree, the Phaeton wasn't great for reliability, but you got Audi A8 luxury for less, and those engine options were pretty fantastic. With this we didn't get even close to Phaeton luxury, I think even the first model year had more going on than this did. I don't think VW is going to learn from this one either though, worse sales in Canada & the US compared to the Kia Stinger, and it's getting smoked in sales by the A5 Sportback. No point to it unfortunately.

@santileonsteinberg1441 4 жыл бұрын

Except, the Phaeton was an actual masterpiece of engineering, compare the quality of a Phaeton to the S-Class of the time, and you can see why it cost what it cost back then, it was a Volkswagen-branded Bentley. This Arteon just a cheaper-to-build version of the Passat CC, which it replaces.

@SonnyVisual 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive yup but the Phaeton was actually a Bentley in VW badgets. arteon is just crap

@haciendadad 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, it doesn't deserve a new name, it should be called the CC still

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I think the only reason they changed the name is so the car would conform better to the new design language of having the name written across the trunk, Arteon looks better spread out than CC. Golf is already pushing it on the 2020 Mk8 Golf, looks a little silly with such a short name.

@troylocation9213 4 жыл бұрын

i want a 7 speed dual clutch or take it back to germany

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Would have been a smoother experience if they offered it here.

@maximzaslavskiy5980 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive The automatic is way smoother than a dual clutch.

@hhvxsueus9771 4 жыл бұрын

Way better than the stinger

@bigcjm 3 жыл бұрын

The arteon cost most than a fully loaded lexus es 350 and you don't even get the lexus dealer experience at a vw dealership. It looks great but mazda can tell you being pretty isn't enough to compete. You have to great at everything and being less peppy and hardly more luxurious than a accord, camry, or k5 gt is a problem. Toss in the extra 10 to 15k and it's no wonder people love the look but don't buy

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

We'll be seeing videos in 10 years on why this car was a major flop for VW, but you heard it here first!

@brandonyen7837 4 жыл бұрын

I never see on the road in USA either 😂

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Weirdly enough I’m starting to see them, or maybe I just keep spotting the same white one someone locally bought. But this month alone I’ve spotted a few despite being on the road for a total of 6 hours in May.

@ccvr6 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that this car doesn't have a VR6 is an absolute deal breaker for me. I despise 4 cyls...I don't car how much power they have. All these turbo 4 cyls have lumpy\surging power delivery, sound like blenders, and just take away from the refinement of the car. To add to that, this car has too much plastic in the interior for the price. When it depreciates, it will still be hard to settle on because most of it's competitors, which offer more for the money, will have depreciated as well. Would much rather have an Infiniti Q50 Red Sport 400 over this, and they are priced very well on the used market.

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

A used Q50S is certainly a good deal, considering Infiniti has mostly forgotten about it. A 2018 is basically the same as a 2020 but much more affordable!

@vladmihai306 9 ай бұрын

i think this car is that kind of car that you buy with your soul...it just looks fantastic and so all the negatives don't matter anymore. the interior is from a passat, as is the interior of an audi a5 from an audi a4. sure, passat is a much cheaper car, but the arteon relies heavily on it's styling to justify it's price. second hand this car is more than worth is tbh. also, this car has very important benefits, for a GT. it has a very spacious interior thanks to the transversal engine layout. Stinger and A5 are much more crammed inside. Cargo space in the boot is also very generous with this car vs it's competition. Sure, you have to compromise, when you choose something, but VW is using a lower end platform to fight into the premium category and solves a few problems of the competitors, bringing on it's own a few negatives. If you want everything, then you have to buy a Rolls Royce. The you have space, engine, quality, everything. But then again, it also costs 5-10x over this car.

@PRNTestDrive 9 ай бұрын

You're certainly on to something there. I don't know if it's enough to truly justify the car, but considering it's no longer available getting one in the used market will be a lot like a Phaeton, a much better deal.

@alexmustata4089 4 жыл бұрын

This car looks great, not gonna lie. But for the price, it is seriously underpowered. Should have at least a v6. Havent seen a single of these on the road yet.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

The VR6 we tested in the Atlas barely makes more power than this. VW really needs better engine choices overall.

@mrbrandon34123 4 жыл бұрын

Smart people going to wait till this thing hits the used car market.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know, even in the used market the rattling would annoy me quite a lot.

@jagmohan909 4 жыл бұрын

But if people don't buy it new,we cannot buy it used.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

Great point also.

@JeffSpehar-ov1cn 4 жыл бұрын

VW rules.

@OfficialYoungDiz 4 жыл бұрын

If it came with the VR6, it still wouldn't make sense lol

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing until I checked the power on the VR6 we tested in the Atlas, only like 8 hp more.

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

Wow 5 blank buttons. Looks bad.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't driven a fully loaded VW yet that doesn't have mostly blank buttons in the centre, I wonder what they're saving them for 😂

@garyallman3039 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive Even the Panamera has loads of blank buttons.

@mtn9752 3 жыл бұрын

In germany we have to pay much more for this car. And i think the 8-speed automatic is the better option.

@PRNTestDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone pays too much for this one unfortunately.

@mtn9752 3 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive maybe y pay for every car too much money. f.e Cadillac, Infinity, Lexus etc.

@maitremonkey5561 4 жыл бұрын

Wow , the Arteon is so damn cheap , in Germany a fully loaded Arteon exceeds the 75k Euro which is nearly 80k Canadian dollars.. even this here it is not fully equiped in german understanding..

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

The Audi A5 probably makes more sense in Europe than this. Even with the DSG, HUD, and better infotainment.

@maitremonkey5561 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive Hi, yes obviously. Even here in Germany the Arteon is quite rare because of its uppet price level. But therefore the leasing conditions are quite good. A5 cars you see a lot here but the outside of the Arteon is sexy, hell yeah! but as you told the inner quality isn't what to expect...

@10tenman10 4 жыл бұрын

I think buyers are more interested in SUVs these days. This car will likely go away.

@gladdy02 4 жыл бұрын

This car looks AMAZING, and i'm sure with typical VW deprecation, in a few years, these will be in the low 30's. Imagine if this were built by a reputable manufacture, oh what could have been :-(

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

It'll probably be about $30k in a couple years if anyone bothers to buy & trade it in. A well-equipped 2017 VW CC is about $30k here.

@MrCarGuy 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think the design is anything better. It's a pig with lipstick.

@JC-hl3tn 4 жыл бұрын

1st year and 1st gen. Wait 3 years for kinks to be worked out in any new manufacturers vehicles.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

This is actually the 4th year of production, the Arteon has been on sale in Europe since the 2017 model year.

@mrcarson7765 4 жыл бұрын

The Arteon that is on sale in NA is like a very bad version of the Arteon we get in Europe.

@PRNTestDrive 4 жыл бұрын

That's the vibe I'm getting from it, but then again most of the North American VWs we get are the same.

@mrcarson7765 4 жыл бұрын

@@PRNTestDrive In general, my opinion, is that American cars and cars assembled in US are at least 30% worse in quality comparing to the cars in Europe. US maybe buys more cars, per year, than Europe, but the quality is on the Euro side. Thats one of the reasons why Chevy backed out from Europe. Their cars were just awful.