2021 Aprilia RS 660 Review

2021 Aprilia RS 660 Review | MC Commute

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3 жыл бұрын

Not every sportbike rider wants a 190-some-hp superbike. So for 2021, Italian motorcycle manufacturer Aprilia expands its sport motorcycle lineup with a smaller and more affordable version in the RS 660 ($11,299). Powered by an RSV4-derived, but more compact, 659cc parallel twin, the 660 is aimed at riders who want a real-world sport machine that splits the difference between practicality and fun.
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Aprilia recently hosted its official North American press introduction for the 660 in Santa Barbara, California. In addition to a forthcoming review we recorded a special edition MC Commute where we describe what it’s like to ride the RS in a POV-style format. Swing a leg over the RS, virtually.
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@hanhtoobala7510 3 жыл бұрын

People complaining about wheels being red. What they don’t know is *Red gos Fasta*

@mrcaustic 3 жыл бұрын

Never really thought such a colour will look great in a motorcycle

@rehtorbF03 3 жыл бұрын

Color matched wheels would make it look way better

@xcfan 3 жыл бұрын

Hideous

@geromitesushiman6035 3 жыл бұрын

I preordered it when i will receive it i already plan to paint the wheels in black.

@MrStrutus 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Looks great !!!!

@hivizhonda9486 3 жыл бұрын

AHEM

@wowIloveusernames 3 жыл бұрын

So happy for Aprilia with this release. Hopefully going to bring a lot of people back to the sport bike class.

@kindajal 3 жыл бұрын

hopefully they work on more dealers across the globe..i feel people shy away from aprilia due to the lack of after sales support on parts and warranty/technical know hows

@lovelessissimo 3 жыл бұрын

@@kindajal That's exactly why I haven't purchased one.

@mathew936 3 жыл бұрын

@@kindajal don’t even know the nearest dealer near me

@kindajal 3 жыл бұрын

@@mathew936 :( thats sad man

@Joric78 3 жыл бұрын

I hope it sells well for Aprilia's sake. They've had rapidly declining sales here in Oz since 2012 and will be lucky to sell 200 bikes and scooters in the whole country this year. The dealer network certainly doesn't help (I've got one dealer within 700kms, and their reputation isn't good).

@rlsedition 3 жыл бұрын

He likes pure sport bikes and they're fun on race tracks and curvy roads, but this is designed for riding on the roads most people ride very day. I went from an MV F3 to a Ducati Supersport and am happy with that decision - pure sport bikes are too narrowly focused for everyday rides.

@jetninjamonkey 3 жыл бұрын

The supersport is an excellent bike, more inspiring to me than this rs660. The SS has a proven engine with a more desirable configuration with more horsepower, more torque and a nimble chassis. The SS would benefit from a TFT display though.

@rlsedition 3 жыл бұрын

@@jetninjamonkey I agree, and electronic cruise.

@desimc89 3 жыл бұрын

How was the MV F3 on back country roads or light sport touring? Also, I prefer an upright riding position for scanning traffic hazards and overall visibility, but I don't know if this is what you meant by "narrowly focused".

@rlsedition 3 жыл бұрын

@@desimc89 When I lived in North Carolina with access to smooth, curvy mountain roads the MV was a delight to ride, but when I moved back to SE Michigan it was totally unsuited to the terrain. "Narrowly focused" means the MV was only fun doing certain things (going fast) on certain roads (smooth, curvy).

@everydaymaverick2166 3 жыл бұрын

@@rlsedition for riding there’s no state quite like NC, love it.

@ItsMaTOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Video was hard to enjoy with the microphone quality..

@crzyruskie86 3 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for you to do this. The 660 looks so dang good, I love it.

@pilninggas 3 жыл бұрын

Crossplane twins are very very good engines. A great motorcycle by the looks of things.

@johnnysvideos1 3 жыл бұрын

Bought a BMW with cruise control this year and will never go without if I can help it... it really does make such a huge difference on anything longer then a 30 minute ride. Love the fact that it is available on a 600 spec sport bike...nice touch!!!

@wombat1238marsupial 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely bike even the colour has me bought. I just love your daily commutes, thankfully I don't have to commute to far daily. A nice lighter weight bike for weekends.😊👍👍

@alainperez7429 3 жыл бұрын

That bike is beautiful,Italians really know how to make good design.

@federicosamperi7336 3 жыл бұрын

From Italian I can confirm

@c.g.c2067 3 жыл бұрын

The RS 660 is more about the technocal qualities rather than it's design

@HormigaZ 3 жыл бұрын

You don't know how much I was looking forward to this Adam

@peterday3253 3 жыл бұрын

Another great review, Waheed. Thanks. And your hair is starting to look more wild. Good job!

@sivanm2130 3 жыл бұрын

Old school MC Commute opinion from Adam is highly appreciated!

@christopher-sy6qp 3 жыл бұрын

its about time aprilia did this , they should have done this years ago to expand the brand/consumers

@williamwintemberg 3 жыл бұрын

I Love this Bike! Good Job Adam!

@4trmotorsports802 3 жыл бұрын

I preordered mines last week.. looks like it won't disappoint... hope it holds its expectations... thanks for the vid.

@gregmccauley1687 3 жыл бұрын

This is the first honest review of this bike I've seen. Honestly amazed, hats off. Every other review leads the viewer to believe this is the best machine ever made and Aprilia is changing everything. Reeks of payoffs. I might actually consider buying this bike since I know how it ACTUALLY rides now. It sounds like a beefed up R3 with a lot more electronics on offer. The R3 is great for getting around town, but very slow. I love my CBR600RR, it's quite comfortable as well, but this bike looks pretty nice for times with high volumes of traffic.

@HormigaZ 3 жыл бұрын

it's almost as good as the CBR6000RR for when you want to grab it by the neck, with a different taste to it (lower reving engine and more down low power as opposed to high revving) but quite a lot better for commuting. Sure, it's not a track beast if that's what you are looking for I'd recommend the MV Agusta F3 instead.

@jacksonornesto651 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that tour of beautiful Santa Barbara

@PeterOekvist 3 жыл бұрын

Nice, Adam!

@forthleft 3 жыл бұрын

Great work by you. Refreshing approach.

@pace7 3 жыл бұрын

I don't own a bike but it's channel like these that got me into them!

@naws69 3 жыл бұрын

one day brother/sister, one day

@rockafella1690 3 жыл бұрын

Gonna get one?

@lovelessissimo 3 жыл бұрын

Get a used Ninja 400. They are so cheap, and they are a riot.

@pace7 3 жыл бұрын

@@rockafella1690 yeah, of course I want to start out on a low cc sport bike lol

@pace7 3 жыл бұрын

@@lovelessissimo good tip , thanks

@numfade7045 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this

@IntoBreathlessSleep 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful sharp lines on this bike. Love it

@eliotsalandybrown 3 жыл бұрын

Adam your reviews are enjoyable to view, high quality, and I learn a lot each time I watch them thanks to the clarity of your thoughts. Thanks!

@scottsaylors1996 3 жыл бұрын

I’m definitely buying one

@michaelphillips2079 3 жыл бұрын

Yet another informative and entertaining video, I always look forward to them. That said, I realize that I'm not one of that rarified breed of high powered sport riders (both bike and rider), but I have a difficult time thinking in terms of "only" a mere 85 rear wheel horsepower on a small two-wheeled vehicle lol. 😏

@DelaCroix94 3 жыл бұрын

I love you Adam!

@atitpatel5555 3 жыл бұрын

Ok who else hates it when the cam is mounted on the side of the helmet like it’s just a weird angle to shoot a video.

@the.communist 3 жыл бұрын

Yes not the best

@billvick7011 3 жыл бұрын

Ha! I was gonna comment that I liked this cam angle better than previous where I'm literally raising my own head trying to see ahead better. Part of the draw for these commute vids for me is seeing parts of southern CA I haven't seen before. Perhaps ideally the cam angel should encompass the dash and the road ahead? Anyway, I liked this angle. Go figure.

@JP-pp9ke 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I don’t like seeing his helmet bob when he talks

@CPUspeed 3 жыл бұрын

What a cool launch location choice of an Italian company. Ojai... here take this bike and there is hwy 33! Lot car manufacturers go to Ojai so guess not that rare. Sweet review around hope ranch. Seeing my roads is weird.

@anklexpress 2 жыл бұрын

Heed rocking the fro...the nostalgia is flowing

@willembaaij4098 2 жыл бұрын

you are the best!

@genelong1748 3 жыл бұрын

I so want one. I'm getting older and I know that my reflexes are starting to not be as sharp, but I still love to ride sport bikes. Was considering the KTM Duke 890r, but I'm thinking this might make more sense for a daily. Love the show 👍.

@aldo1999 3 жыл бұрын

My aprilia had over 50,000 miles on my Shiver great bike Never broken down!!!

@longlivechina7538 3 жыл бұрын

Your my hero

@seriousarrr7840 3 жыл бұрын

everyday watch rs660 and waiting for an exhaust for this beauty. im gonna drop my rsv4 soon. i just want fun at this age

@cheyenneobregon184 3 жыл бұрын

Damn how much you’re gonna let the rsv4 for?

@federicosamperi7336 3 жыл бұрын

@@cheyenneobregon184 14?

@Shooterpirat 3 жыл бұрын

there is an Akrapovic for it

@rickymahoney6664 3 жыл бұрын

This thing looks awesome and I can’t imagine I’d want more power then it has. I just wanna ride and have fun, I’m not looking to be the fastest guy on the road

@DearMajesty 3 жыл бұрын

Super curious about this bike!

@sleelakrishnan 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You Bloke 👌👌👌

@AudreyH48 3 жыл бұрын

Loving all these street oriented sport bikes! I think manufacturers are starting to understand again that people ride these daily and sometimes/most the time never see track days. Honestly if the delay hadn't happened, I probably would of gotten one of these. I ended up going with a Ducati Supersport S but I do think the RS660 is probably a better bike. The SSS is very viby and the mirrors are useless.

@rlsedition 3 жыл бұрын

I have an SSs and agree the mirrors are useless, but I'd bet the vibes are about the same on this bike (which are not an issue). OBTW, both bikes look great, but Ducati is better at choosing colors and using tasteful decals (what's with the large letter decals on the Aprilia's other two colors?).

@remigusker6024 3 жыл бұрын

Everything I've seen about this bike makes it seem like just about the perfect 2nd bike for someone who has a standard of some sort like an MT-09 or Street Triple but still wants a sport bike but doesn't want the full track attack ergos of a supersport or Superbike.

@stevejobs3895 3 жыл бұрын

Cant wait to get one as my first bike.

@alexizaguirre1411 3 жыл бұрын

You and me both!!

@Firestorm637 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, OEM lithium ion battery in a middleweight. IMU with stability control and cornering lights. So light @ 400 pounds. Middle weights are the new Goldilocks bikes. You do not need a 1000cc bike. 100-130 horsepower plenty for the street especially streetable rpm useable on the street. Love the Led headlight with IMU cornering lighting. This bike will sell well. Bikes in the $22,000 range plus like Harley’s too expensive as you could buy a car.

@Joric78 3 жыл бұрын

I hope it sells well for Aprilia's sake. They've had falling sales number here in Oz since 2012, and will be lucky to sell 200 bikes and scooters in the entire country this year.

@irondiet6831 3 жыл бұрын

I love the body design Aprilla has style.

@iTxip 3 жыл бұрын

Did you try to adjust the front forks?? Usually they come in a quite soft/comfy setting but adding a bit of compression, rebound and preload helps quite a lot for sportier riding

@ojasdavare3418 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see you finally back on the road Waheed! Happy riding ✊🏾🏍️

@cyanide1739 3 жыл бұрын

Chal chutiye

@photographerjonathan 3 жыл бұрын

Nice bike, I wish that Yamaha would make an Mto7 with an upper fairing and a more planted front end.

@RUBBERNMETAL 3 жыл бұрын

That’s an awesome idea. If they did something like a cbr650r it would sell like hotcakes I believe. There’s a lot of riders who look for that sports bike look but without the sports bike inconvenience.

@jme3752 2 жыл бұрын

Guess u got what u wanted

@joedangerfinesse6885 3 жыл бұрын

I can't wait till this bike comes to my country in 3.5 years.

@2WheelWeekendViking 3 жыл бұрын

Great review as always. 😎 How does it compare to a Ducati Supersport? Better second bike for a person coming from cruisers I presume? Thanks!

@longlivechina7538 3 жыл бұрын

Your my hero bro

@craigxfleming8806 3 жыл бұрын

I would powder coat the wheels Black with that color.

@solidkreate5007 3 жыл бұрын

I really think I'm going to buy one of these. I love how the bike didn't hit 120 at the end of the on ramp. My R6 would definitley have done it. I know this because I have. I remember one I got a ticket doing 91 in a 55. I was sitting upright with one hand on my hip and no idea I was going that fast. The Cop said it's the only thing that saved me because he coul tell I wasn't intentionally going fast. I was in Idylwild.

@Shmack_ 3 жыл бұрын

This guy has the best job

@alithejumbo 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man, how do you compare it to BMW F900R? I know the BM of a different class but sill, which one would YOU choose?

@motosagela 3 жыл бұрын

I'm curious about what the factory version will be like. Or, when someone puts a full exhaust and Ohlin suspension on it. I'm sure it will be a banger then. Good review.

@aurorajones8481 3 жыл бұрын

I hope to god they apply this look to the 2021 RSV4 or next version. The lack of LEDs up front kept me from the Factory 1100 went to Ducati V4S instead and the Duc is a great bike but i miss my 18 RSV4 RF like a lost best friend. The new guy is not up to par in my opinion but still great if you know what i mean. Go Aprilia!

@vladsta3833 3 жыл бұрын

Since when is 100 hp low power?

@lovelessissimo 3 жыл бұрын

Since liter bikes became the norm. I agree with you, though.

@rastamoto 3 жыл бұрын

Probably the last 10 years.

@VeeFour 3 жыл бұрын

I remember when 100hp was muscle bike numbers, but it's all relative now that 1000cc sports bikes are pumping out in excess of 200

@MyMednas 3 жыл бұрын

Since the 90s.

@the.communist 3 жыл бұрын

Americans are mad

@SinuousGrace 3 жыл бұрын

Looks good but I would prefer black (or silver?) wheels to the orangish-red ones. Other than that seems like a dream bike for street and light track days.

@Victic005 3 жыл бұрын

It finally came to America.

@stonemonkey1985 3 жыл бұрын

Really considering one of these, but Does it have heated grips? Or an option for factory heated grips?

@rudolphcarr 3 жыл бұрын

Wish this had been out last march when I bought my street triple!

@corybolton7462 3 жыл бұрын

You would miss that triple mid-range torque and topend power, love my RS

@aguiristante 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see rain in california

@elarr8733 3 жыл бұрын

Doom metal has lots of distortion, but this channel has all the distortion plus bikes!

@haqi9fly 3 жыл бұрын

Yoooooooooooooooooooooooo! I love nose wheelies too brother! Yay!

@sampsalol 3 жыл бұрын

God damn it looks good in that color.

@Ognadz Жыл бұрын

Microphone audio wasn’t the best, however, I like how you explain about each electronic spec before speaking about it on the bike

@watashiwa_aditya 3 жыл бұрын

It'll be dope in matt black

@rahulsudhir666 3 жыл бұрын

Matte black would end up hiding all that pronounced edgy bodywork. I'd definitely get rid of the tacky red wheels tho. We had our RSV4 RF wrapped all black and ended up gettin rid of it in under a week and switched to all white with satin gold wheels.

@the.communist 3 жыл бұрын

@cyanide1739 3 жыл бұрын

This guy sounds like jeff from American Dad

@Ayiu623 3 жыл бұрын

That’s the whole vibe of this video.

@SuperTap007 3 жыл бұрын

Rad bike 🔥😎

@hectorallanrivera9334 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative video, sorry if I missed it, but does the RS660 come with cruise control?

@gregmccauley1687 3 жыл бұрын

yes, he uses it several times

@felicianoabe 3 жыл бұрын

Wow that color

@solidkreate5007 3 жыл бұрын

This bike was designed specifically for the Moto America Twins Cup. You're right it does not need TCS, right now. When the teams start adding exhaust systems, Power Commanders and other "racy" bits to it, it will need TCS. I don't know if it is legal in MA (aka AMA proper).

@GotPoopWeScoop 3 жыл бұрын

Can anybody tell me the gloves Adam uses? They look like they’re good quality and look nice

@aaronbehindbars 3 жыл бұрын

Adam: 659 cc parallel twin does not need traction control Also Adam: All bikes with throttle by wire should have traction control Umm, ok? Is Adam preparing to run for public office?

@VeeFour 3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too, but I think in the first instance he meant to say wheelie control 🤔

@Joric78 3 жыл бұрын

I thought he meant to say cruise control, because that's what throttle by wire simplifies and what he talked about next.

@Real_MisterSir 3 жыл бұрын

@@Joric78 I think so too, and he immediately goes on to talk about the cruise control right after that.

@TheImtoomuch 3 жыл бұрын

The more motorcycle companies install electronic features, the greater chance we’ll be nickel and dimed to gain access to these features. The GP shifter option is a good example. Speaking of electronics, it has more dash lights than a Christmas tree. That flashing green light would distract and annoy me. I’ve been looking for something like a Ninja 400 or Z400 with its light weight, but with much more power. This seems like it may be the bike for me. Thoughts, Adam?

@xTheNameisEthan 3 жыл бұрын

They need to make a mid size naked bike now so I can have a dream of getting an Aprillia some day lol

@KeySoz 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure if i love or hate that color scheme, but atleast it has character and stands out, unlike my almost completely blacked out 2020 Tuono Factory.

@Cthooligan 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the early preview, but would like a proper MC Commute when ur not under Aprilia's thumb.

@gregmccauley1687 3 жыл бұрын

It's funny you mention that (a month ago, I know) but this is the first review of this bike I've seen where I feel like it's honest. He has as many complaints as compliments. Every other review I've seen would make the viewer think this is a gift directly from heaven given to Aprilia to distribute to Earth.

@haqi9fly 3 жыл бұрын

My dudes got that totally gnarly dude accent. Let’s go rip some barrels. Ive been living in NYC for way too long and starting to get home sick. I really my Los Angeles California. I miss skating from Vince to Santa Monica beach. Tra flips and vario flips all day.

@chalkdemon8019 2 жыл бұрын

So you think I should get the CBR 600rr, or the Ninja zx6r instead? As a second motorcycle?

@sv650nyc7 3 жыл бұрын

What's the green light blinking from 15:12 until 21:55? It was so distracting to me I couldn't follow the video. I hope this is not to do with the cruise control. Blinking should be reserved for important alerts.

@rome6676 2 жыл бұрын

What 4 cylinder “sport bike” can you buy for the same money other than the ZX6R or the GSXR?

@jonathanhidalgo4591 3 жыл бұрын

While I love the styling of this I just really wish KTM would build me an RC890 based on the Duke 890.

@motorcycle-man 3 жыл бұрын

Shit I'd even be satisfied with the 790 in there.

@seanwil545 3 жыл бұрын

I'd settle for an aftermarket 790/890 Duke body kit easy. Swap it on when planning for some longer, highway riding.

@kendesimon4177 3 жыл бұрын

Dude this bike has 100 hp that is a lot for something like this, but i respect your opinion.

@alexcaymans 3 жыл бұрын

Hows the reliability with this bike though?... I've heard things about aprilla 🤔 Ps cruise control already not working fully, squeaking 😬

@FreddyKings87 3 жыл бұрын

Does it sound as good as rsv4? I buy bikes with a good soundtrack..

@robertstarr3929 3 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of parallel twins, or this trend of mid 600cc middleweights, looks good though. Just increase to the 750cc class already. I also agree in that I’d choose an sport-bike rather than an almost.

@rlsedition 3 жыл бұрын

You're missing the point of this bike, which is NOT designed for a race track, but riding on public streets.

@je7098 3 жыл бұрын

I guess they are chasing the A2 market.

@rlsedition 3 жыл бұрын

@@je7098 No, they're chasing the market for street-able bikes, which the pure sports 600 machines were not.

@paweleq19 3 жыл бұрын

@@rlsedition there is a lot of machines better for daily use with better engines/reliability. Street-able bikes are naked bikes and that is biggest market. If you want sport bike you buy sport bike, if you want daily-use bike you buy naked. Yeah, I definitely miss the Point of that bike especially with that price Point.

@mt09madness 3 жыл бұрын

That rear brake squeak would drive me nuts...

@HormigaZ 3 жыл бұрын

Just change the brake pad and you're good to go. They squeak like that because they are softer than usual to make the braking feeling less intimidating for newer riders, or just people who come from a lower end bike. The immediate feeling of those brembo calipers and pumps has gotten many people in the past.

@haqi9fly 3 жыл бұрын

Oh it would be nice if they add a screen in the space for a rear view perspective.

@101Websurfing 3 жыл бұрын

I like the super sport look and the upright riding position, but it needs more power...

@the.communist 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, maybe 200hp or 300?

@paweleq19 3 жыл бұрын

@@the.communist 130-140 would be perfect.

@DoctorStrange01 3 жыл бұрын

@@the.communist no, 310 actually. "Needs more power", we don't have that type of thinking in Europe and i can tell already, that it will sell great here, because people actually know how to differentiate bike classes from each other and know a specific bike's purpose :)

@shamnasshamon42 3 жыл бұрын

Love from india🖤

@Jacobvb11 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a huge fan of this bike. I love the look of sportsbikes, but so many of them are too leaned forward to be comfortable on the street. Also twins are awesome for low end torque. I hope yamaha makes a direct competitor to this. Something that looks as good as the R6 but 2 cylinder, and more relaxed.

@nathandaniel6540 3 жыл бұрын

I’d be curious to how this bike compares to the ninja 650

@NerdblurbSteve 3 жыл бұрын

If the parallel twin makes insurance for this bike bearable in CA, it will be hard to resist.

@101Websurfing 3 жыл бұрын

Motorcycles are addicting!

@Rockinsoul1214 3 жыл бұрын

How would be the bike if Aprilia puts V2 engine with same specs?

@johncarlson8029 3 жыл бұрын

It would probably feel similar like a sv650 with bucks worth of tuned gsxr suspension.

@caseygiron72 3 жыл бұрын

Is this would be good for beginner rider?

@dylanw890 3 жыл бұрын

For such a beautiful bike, I really do not like the ketchup and mustard look. I think think this bike in a matte silver with red and white accents would be drop dead gorgeous. A light blue similar to porsche's Miami blue would look killer as well.

@g11000011 3 жыл бұрын

Greeting!

@moomilkboy 3 жыл бұрын

wow a modern headlight! The RSV4 doesn't even have that.

@GSXRMVDUCRD 3 жыл бұрын

In the spirit of questioning Every-Little-Thing. :-) Why would anyone drag their rear brake while cruising, straight-line?

@Joric78 3 жыл бұрын

Probably his preferred foot positioning and not being able to adjust the lever for this ride. Although I do wonder if he dragged it long enough to glaze the rear pad and cause that squealing.

@captainaverage721 3 жыл бұрын

I'm interested to see how many people order this colour 🤔

@ragerider6283 3 жыл бұрын

Nice vid & very cool bike. It really appeals to me although I'm waiting for the Tuono to see what that's like, by which time hopefully Aprilia would've also worked all the new model glitches out too.

@rlsedition 3 жыл бұрын

Why wait for the Tuono when the faired RS660 is already comfortable?

@ragerider6283 3 жыл бұрын

@@rlsedition Good point. I don't know lol. Tuono should hopefully be even more comfortable & a bit cheaper too. Worth testing both out I guess.

@rlsedition 3 жыл бұрын

@@ragerider6283 It looks like "cheaper" will have to be for case for the Tuono, as the comfort issue has largely been resolved on the RS660.

@ragerider6283 3 жыл бұрын

@@rlsedition I guess so but not sat on either yet so will be interested to see how they compare from my own perspective. Although as you say, if the RS is comfortable enough, it could make the Tuono somewhat redundant.