Patagonia needs to sponsor them at this point 😹

@@ascott2168 They should do a review on their jackets. It’d be as compelling as the Toto Bidet review.

@@ascott2168 I mentioned this on another review too. I mean Jack had a sweatshirt with a HUGE logo on in one of the recent videos. Match made in heaven for these midlife-crisis two driving gents. :)

@@richardnavratil9661 😹😹 Haaaa well said ! Those 48-52 years of life are hitting them hard, hence the need for constant tire shredding ! Gotta re-live the early 90s I guess 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@ascott2168 Lol I don't think they are that old.... they don't look that old anyway.

I did some math, and found that with a 30 mile range, I'd cut my gasoline usage by 75%. I really would like a PHEV sports sedan.

good comment

I wondered if anybody else had noticed that lol. Seems like in every video, both of them are wearing Patagonia.

#pataguccigang

It’s the Midwest suburban well to do casual dress uniform.

@@mehdimohamed6291 It's more like upper middle class attire lol. I've got a couple patagonia sweaters, but honestly the only reason is because my wife used to work for a company in Thailand that made products for them and she got some defective ones for basically nothing.

It's dreary clothing though.

being able to charge for free at work is a huge benefit!

What happened?

@I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS .. +1. agreed.

I think you're right. I recently mentioned on another one of his comment is I know he really needs it when you actually see him mentioning it. He's not like some other car reviewers (that I used to like lot more like The Straight Pipes) and it gets to a point it's like click-bait....

@@richardnavratil9661 god the straight pipes have gotten so bad lately. Have you seen their newest video? They literally recorded footage with a new car and blurred all of it out just to tell people to come back next week so see what it is.

@@fireballspark123 the straight pipes always gave me a sort of boyracer vibe...which is fine, but it really is a red flag to me when they make things overcomplicated just to get more views as you said.

Jack only has interest in cars that nobody should keep it long-term. 👎

What balances out Jack's ignorance on what PHEVs are intended for, the incorrect electric range he quoted, talking people with longer commutes out of buying a PHEV even though it would reduce their gas use, or only showing the fully loaded price of the vehicle and not mentioning the tax credit that brings the price thousands of dollars below the 330i?

@@updlate4756 true, to some extent. The savings on gas are realized only long term. The problem is that these products don't last long term. Therefore, no savings for anyone.

@@barrygoldwasser5449 They last just fine, no need to post silly lies.

@@updlate4756 you joking, right? I'm in the car business. I restore them. But that's anecdotal. Look at the numbers. BMW, MB, Audi, Porsche. They're disposable products. How many old S class MB you see out there? How many old 7 series? Few to none. How many old Lexus LS you see all circulating? Listen, don't take my word for it. Look at statistics. Numbers don't lie.

Correct. Just ordered the X3 30e Plug-in Hybrid. Drops the tax bill per year from 1% to 0.5%, and for someone like me who drives BMWs costing around 80,000 Euros gross list price, that saves me thousands a year in taxes.

"emissions tax" lmao

@@robertw.1499 Still gets the same fuel economy as a modified 20 year old subie. Looks like a waste of technology if you ask me.

@@eivis13 It has zero emissions (~50km EV range) for an average driver if they can charge at home. No 20-year-old car can do that.

@@villLe unless you add some batteries and a few electric motors. Considering it gets only low 30 mpgs in hybrid mode it's a waste. It's not like it's an rx or a gs450h or etc.

Same here.

This is accurate.

Funny... same here!

Jack will become significantly poorer if he discovers Arcteryx Veilances lineup.

When he was under the car he looked like he wished it would just fall on him

@@bijan4697 haha, yes.

It is, they're just kind of sad now. Look at the new FWD based 2-series cars. They're just ass. Yes, I know they are x-drive, but the point is the engine is sideways and it's basically a FWD architecture. It's 100% poseur.

Its Excusesgeese at the end of every video though.

​@@bobbowie9350 That's because he tries to speak to normal consumers and offer good buying advice, which is a weird approach in my opinion because most people that watch these videos on KZfaq seem to be car enthusiasts. Either way, society has become more lame/gay/feminized and very few cool things exist anymore and modern cars are a reflection of that. Completely souless and bland.

I started listening in Dolby Atmos.

I am having synesthesia ever since.

My heart has started running on RTX

Me too, I get technicolor on my iphone6 and Dolby Atmos app so I can experience it all.

Every time I enter someplace, the THX intro plays.

You’re a lucky man indeed

@@basithph8958 I am a woman, bro.

@@smeegain3657 oh sorry

@@basithph8958 No Problem :)

You noticed it too? hahaha... someone needs to freeze his expression with "hello darkness my friend" playing....

That raised corner of his lip screams contempt lol, these new BMW's are SO boring.

He really didn’t wanna be there 😂

@@snail415 Hey there, Delilah

He looked so unimpressed and bored to the point of disdain shown in his face.

@@AnontheGOAT well its a shit engine/car. ever since they started downsizing, they killed the only good part about BMW, the proper engines. (that were not durable long-term, but it's luxury/BMW, so whatever. it was still fun, powerful, capable.)

@@CitarNosis317 ya got no qualms from me on that. I like your name btw 😉

Strange he looked so disappointed on the drive, yet said how competent the car was at the end.

BMW left me behind...

Since my car knowledge has been going up since watching SGs videos, whenever I can apply that info in a conversation I am talking out of my ASS.

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As a huge fan of PHEVs, I think I've gotten dumber for having watched this review. Jack misquoted the EV range of the vehicle. He only shared the fully loaded price of the car instead of the base price. Didn't mention the $5800 tax credit that makes this car $2600 cheaper than the 330i. (Before state EV tax credits that would reduce the price further) He for some reason attempted to talk people with longer commutes out of buying this car, even though it would significantly reduce their gas use, fuel costs, gas station trips, maintenance trips and costs... etc. lol... I mean... it's like this was the first PHEV he's ever driven, and he doesn't have a clear understanding of how they work or how they benefit the owner. Maybe he should buy a PHEV and live with it for a year to catch him up to speed on the benefits of these vehicles.

Well yeah 60k if you take every useless options there is, it could've been sub 50k before tax credits + gas savings.

PHEV only works if you live in the city and also work in the vicinity. Might not make sense in USA where the suburbs alone are 21 miles for some reason. But in Europe where things are a lot tighter packed, it makes a lot of sense. And besides that, some countries offer subsidies/Tax breaks for PHEVs as well.

20 miles if you only drive in electric but if you only want to drive in electric then just buy a full EV and not a PHEV. I feel like many people don't understand why PHEV exists

@@CyAn-S I don't get this argument. It still provides significant gas savings even if you are making long trips. Even if you had an 80 mile commute, you'd only begin to use gas on the second half of your commute. The gas mileage is still good after that, so you still stay ahead.

@@AW-gj4ji so buy a luxury car but don’t have luxury features yup that makes sense... it’s a luxury car just don’t buy a luxury car

Was not sure if the suburbanite's or the hybrid's trunk was huge.

Duck duck duck GOOSE

Love jack

I prefer Mark. To me, jack just seems like a cookie cutter KZfaq car reviewer

Don't let the damn youtube influencers over take you man. Your life is worth living. But damn, savagegeese is pretty jesus.

Why did I read "My wife" at first?

savagegeeses life was not worth living until lots of people subs...WAIT...that is so not true...savagegeese always had lives that are THE DREAM! And we are lucky, no, privileged that they let us participate in them. We are so unworthy. Thank you savagegeese!

@@smeegain3657 gods be praised 🙏🏼

This "trend" is already getting old.

x-drive or the RWD model? I could not get mine x-drive F30 over 22.3mpg, it was like it was stuck there forever. City/highway didn't matter.

@@bb5242 xDrive. The good fuel economy surprised me. At highway speeds the car will coast at idle RPM until power is needed. I did not expect the all wheel drive to be more efficient than an Accord 2.0T but it is. The “base” model has real analog gauges with navigation between the speedometer and odometer. My only options are xDrive, driving assistance, heated seats and steering wheel.

Only if you don't drive its competitors. And only if you lease it and don't experience BMWs legendary reliability.

@@bassandtrebleclef the A4 and C 300 just aren’t as good. I’m not a bimmer guy at all but these are fantastic. Forever will not understand reliability concerns when buying new, especially if leasing.

Ikr. Me and my gay boyfriend (I’m gay) were joking about it and touching each other’s buttholes

It came into perspective when an aunt said that in the 6 months of owning a PHEV Mitsi Outlander she'd filled the gas tank once. And they have half that range.

Our "base" models in the US arent necessarily the same as europe when it comes to german cars.

@@gerbel01 That's very true, for us the base model is a 318i with 150hp and cloth seats

@@magnusbuinevits9535 yeah we haven't been able to buy a 318 since maybe the e36?

Yeah and the tax is a bigger item, so those smaller engines are also helping BMW and those 2.5’s are penalised.

@@JJVernig Tax is a thing yes, but the Toyota is actually subject to less tax than the BMW because of its lower emissions

Todays 5 is for older 7 series owners.

I had the same reaction

It is an 320i (184hp in europe) plus electric motor

Oh, lots of people in the states are up their own asses about EVs and they all wear masks while driving in them all alone, too.

Thats a winning formula

savagegeese makes up for 79 percent of clothing related planet saving efforts - worldwide

Exactly, 3 series was always loved for its simplicity, its was like the mx5 of sedans.

e46 was the last least complicated. the e90 is where it really went downhill

@@JDMHaze imo e90 was the last old school 3 series, e90 330i and 328i were as simple as cars get. They had a very reliable NA i6, and they were the perfect size.

@@insayn7995 I have a e90 328i and it’s so complicated with their computer system for the engine I hate it. You don’t get a coolant gauge, you have no idea what the oil is doing, and worst of all no oil dip stick.

The bigger the 3 series gets, the less I like it. I had an e36 coupe. Perfect size for me. Now I'm in a 128i, which is the same size as the e36. This current 3 series is nearly the size of an earlier 7 series. Too darn big.

If you drive 13 miles daily why on earth do you need a $60,000 car???

@@anonymoususer1824 good point but the car is beautiful! If I could afford it I would. Life is too short, I tend to enjoy every minute.

Depends if you have yo pay 3000€ per year with co3 taxes and drive

Did you get it? I’m considering it.

@@InternetDude Couldn't, the model was cancelled for my region. I was offered the 340i so just told them to forget it. Took a drive one afternoon popped in to a beautiful Lexus dealership. I ended up picking up a Lexus UX, the UX has been amazing since its just the wife and I. Smooth and truly luxurious.

@@TheJacobGZuma oh wow I have a Lexus now but am thinking of switching just for something different. Hmm….

@@TheJacobGZuma I had a UX hybrid as a loaner, great car, I liked the hybrid system.

@@InternetDude Then probably the Bimmer will be an interesting one for you, just be prepared to go crazy on options but you will have some great trips.

The ZF is very good. Not sure it needs 8 forward gears, though. The ratios are pretty indistinguishable. Not sure if the engine noise is real or not.

BMW ist always premium.

He said it's really a 5 in size

@@MauriceBln1 Not the point. This is a 3 series. It is NOT a full size vehicle.