considering the first vid had a completely different vid to this current vid, hahahahahahah

Not me.... I don't care. I ride a KTM but couldn't care less what wins. The only thing that matters is do YOU like the bike you ride. If so you are on the best bike.

No thats not the bad part they act like they can ride these bike to their full Potential

Yamaha is definitely the most reliable, especially after the Honda valve problems.

It got a new chassis that’s why

@@jakobnunley9749 Yz450f have no changes for 2021.

The other bikes got better, so the yz feels worse, still a good bike

@@sloan4764 you're kidding right? Kawasaki had zero changes and KTM almost nothing. Most test riders can not tell the difference between 2020 models and 2021.

"Strong" & "unpredictable" **Laughs in CR500**

KX has won the shootout for 3 consecutive years bruh. Check out dirt rider mag. KXF is a beast

You know how the game is played gotta pay to play.

Meaning?

@@twowheelpilot ​ @craig loades They said it had too much power, personally I think that's a win LOL. I understand that they said it was hard to control, but power and very long lasting engine's makes me like Yamaha more than I already did. I've owned a lot of Yamaha and never replaced a single piston. Proof, I own/owned: a 08 Raptor 700r just needed a fuel pump rode it yesterday, Raptor 660 idk electric start problems sold it, 07 Raptor 250 2 new starters and carb because the fuel/air mixture screw broke off and got really stuck in the carb, 02 Raptor 80 sold it 13yrs later because nobody knew how to clean a carb, 07 Raptor 50 3 years Too slow sold it, 2000 rebuilt YZ80 used bought in 10 carb clean, new chain, new shift shaft, used 03 Rm65 bought in 13 Chain kept getting lodged into the Generator sold in 18, used 02 CR250r bought in 2021 my current battle Way to rich, JD jetting kit worked bad clutch drag cuz HP Honda 80-85 sucks.

It’s literally got new everything

@@sloan4764 no dude look it up the 450 remains unchanged from last year except for graphics. 250 has got new everything

Yeah i have a 20 yz450 ...and the 21 is the same as mine...its a great bike !

@@ben-mj8mh no dude, you look it up....the bike had a bunch of changes for 2021. www.yamahamotorsports.com/motocross/models/yz450f

@@zacbabcock4223 no it’s not....have you actually read Yamahas web sight?

no Honda

KTM

Beta and save the few grand for mods

Kawi and husky got some pretty big changes. Maybe seem small but the changes make a pretty big effect on the bike. And just because a winner had no changes doesn’t mean it should still finish first. That’s not how it works

@@NickW90 i wasnt aware that the husky and ktm got changes. They made it sound like the honda got big changes and the kawi got a couple.

@@HighSpeedTV i said kawi and husky. Ktm i think just got mapping change

Because in reality they're so close together in performance.

Kawasaki better period

I just traded my '19 yz450 in for a '21 kx450 and yeah the muffler is HUGE and ugly. At the very least a fmf slip on will be ordered very soon.

Definitely replace and tune

One word. Yoshimura

@@accusynca How would you compare the 21 kx to the 2019 YZ now that you have had it a while?

@@shawntheo1603 both are great. I think the yz pulled harder everywhere but the kx is a bit smoother. The kx starts much faster. The yz took a while to start sometimes and especially when in gear where the kx doesn't hesitate at all.

The front end shouldn’t be pushing like that in the first place

@@ronk6553 🤣 that was hilarious! 👍 ...& I have a 21 kx450.

Always!

You mean Horrible fueling, bad suspension and bad suspension? Yep great times... I'd take the Kawasaki or Yamaha over any of the other for that alone. Plus the Honda ergonomics are tiny. They only suit smaller riders.

GasGas is a ghost bike, you hear about it, but we'll never really see it. I am very disappointed at the lack of coverage good or bad on GasGas. They deserve to be ripped on at least for not delivering on their promise of September bike deliveries. I have had an MX450 ordered since the dealer could, and it just is silent and no explanation.

or even a Beta or SWM

I'm almost positive you can.

Not enough views 😂

hahhaha....

Ahahahahaha bikes must have changed from a week or so ago, ahaahahahahaahahahahah

What was the first results? Was it much different?

Because they don’t have a clue about what they’re talking about and they lack the integrity to keep it 💯 if you want the real answer to the lame review and wishy washy opinions that are being made up to sound better to the manufactures that grease their wheels and line their pockets 🙄

When dad is finished with his bike first hun.

When our kids start riding??

They changed the internals a bit

I had 2020 yzf450 and The first thing i noticed was that it stands in corners.

Honda also has the ECU issue with it cutting out which lets be honest shouldn't be happening especially with it being fuel injected...Most testers I have seen are saying just stick with the 20 lol

I think with the education issue worked out and if it had kyb suspension it would be much better

@@kasey446 you just have to get it reflashed and it’s all good. Bike feels amazing now

Honda has ECU issues and is a heavier bike. Heavy enough to really make a difference. You would be better served getting a Beta. By doing so you save several thousand $ which can be spent on a trip or mods. It is just a better bike than the Honda

Who cares Suzuki still hasn’t changed anything since 2018

From there website: *As we have mentioned, the original video had some scoring discrepancies and has been amended to match all the written notes from the testers included in this full test. No grand conspiracy. Someone misspoke or hash marks where tallied for the wrong bikes. An honest mistake that caused some confusion but all of the riding impressions stay the same. No tester suddenly changed their opinion. Next time, we’ll have multiple knuckle-dragging dirt bikers check the score sheet to make sure everything is good to go… Numbers are hard.

We had a 2021 model in our 2022 Shootout we published about two months ago.

@@vitalmx Ah, my bad! :-)

The 2020.5 Rockstar is the same as the 21 fc450 beside all the bling and better graphics. 2020 kx450 is a good as well as the 21 but the Husky is lighter and skinnier. Husky feels like a smaller bike than the KX. One thing I have found is the husky is sometimes kinda hard to get it learned over and stay in the ruts. The FCP mounts will fix this

fhartse , they need a warranty to sort out the dodgy build , its true that is why there is a warranty

@@motozz8258 Ha ha! Ok

you didnt buy a bike cause of aluminum frame lmao thats a whack reason but i wouldnt buy a Kawi either. i would get ktm factory or a 2022 honda and wait

yeah with different results also

People don’t want kickstart they want E-start. That’s why I’m getting a new bike. I’m sick of kick start. Also want 4T over 2T.

I think the issue is you riding and comparing anything to a 2004 ktm 😂. Ktm of that era were for, let's just say, the more enthusiastic owners of euro brands.

If your keeping it for a while go with the kawi the only company with the full refresh and the rest of the bikes are mid cycle refresh

@@arnoldmassey2747 i ended up buying the Kawi haha .

@@Catman1987 get the Ride End link... Also put a 2018 rear brake rotor and carrier on it. Increase the spring rate on the front a little if you are over 180#. Then go ride.

@@shooter7a thanks haha , ill so that , i only weigh a 130 pounds though .

@@Catman1987 then you will need to drop springs both ends and get a revalve. 130# on a 450? I hope you have good skills and throttle control. If I weighed 130....no way could I handle a 450.

Honda’s are the best

Shame just about every test has but the Honda last.... It's sad 😢 to see Honda turn out a bike like this. Great products normally but that has to be a blow for big red. The 250 is horrible too. No torque.

@@carsonjohnson1845 not anymore.

@@twowheelpilot yes they are, u think kawis look good bruhhh

@@carsonjohnson1845 I sure do. The Kawasaki is a great looking bike too.

Ktm sucks

@@yourefireed lol nobody that has ever ridden a KTM will say it sucks. Kinda sus

@@steelywheelie3123 I’ve ridden plenty and just to say a Honda handles so much better

Каури

@@user-xb8nn6jp3x shut up speak English

No there's a different winner

It’s all subjective

@@aidanvelthuis1267 I've just always believed ktm, husqvarna and Kawasaki have built bikes tailored to these very few testing channels. Where is the others actually build them for the mass's of people who ride. Cause the years where Yamaha's were " not very good bikes ", that's the majority of bikes I would see at tracks. Cause they're fast, innovative and bullet proof reliability.

@@thisisben3593 Agreed! I’m a Honda guy but I’ve noticed Japanese manufacturers tend to cater to the weekend warrior or the person that isn’t quite as skilled. Me personally I’m not a great rider and I have ridden almost all brands and the Japanese fit me best and I love my 2020 crf250rx

The Kawi i the lightest feeling/riding 450. It feels like a 250 to me.

So a 4% reduction in weight is going to make up for 20% less horsepower and 30% less torque. Keep dreaming, buddy. Good joke though.

Last in most tests unfortunately and I like Honda's.

@@twowheelpilot ya but theses shootouts are shit they never have any consistency and it's usually who they have sponsors with that they vote for.

@@caseyanderson7600 I hear you. For sure it makes you wonder sometimes.

@@twowheelpilot it's facts if you are sponsored by say ktm or a company tied to ktm you're not gonna say any thing bad about you're sponsors and if the test riders are famous enough to know their names in the mx bike community they have sponsors so there you go always about money and everyone sells out.

@@twowheelpilot buttery aka connor said he likes the honda and in all his video blogs he is riding red what a coincidence huh. They're just doing and saying what pays them.

Wish all company’s were still making 2 strokes so we could see husky winning

@@Tymx27 just wonderen

maybe the gasgas also next year... 🙄