yeah, it'd really suck to spend $10,000 on a bike when it's not the best bike at all

@@austintrenum8281 Really,

You could pick out your favorite color these days...they all would be phenomenal bikes.

always green xD

@@cadillachernandez2271 exactly. The miniscule differences in these machines won't be noticed by an average rider. These review videos are overly nitpicky for the sake of entertainment.

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i got the 2022 crf250r also, just got off a yamaha 125 and i’d say the crf is the closest 250 that feels and rides like a 125.

The bike just won the damn championship, it should be on the top step. I'll never understand the Honda hate from the MX press.

@@thinkandrepent3175 I’m a Honda man all the way , my first bike was a 1975 Elsinore and almost everything we ride is Honda, I have often wondered if these magazine folks get kick backs to vote certain ways but I can see all the value that the Yamaha has, and can see how it could get winning votes . however the bike that won the championship was last year’s platform and it was a works machine with hell of a pilot on it so I’m not sure if that’s enough to justify to stock platform win or not 🤷‍♂️

@@thinkandrepent3175 jet was riding at 21 Honda not the 22..

@@thinkandrepent3175 that's ridiculous. Do you not understand the difference between a factory prepared race machine and a production bike?

Thanks! We suspect what other Shootout you're referring to.

The Yami 250f's a great bike very reliable...my dads got a 04' still runs mint!!

Sweet! Let us know what you think.

I agree. I love two strokes in the tight woods, but overall you can’t beat the 250fx for every type of riding

@@TeezleySPT yes, for example, the kdx 200

i think it looks sick lol, its way better than before

I agree. They need a makeover. They have looked almost the same for a really long time.

@@Huckabuck2 it just looks wide and bulky to me, the honda looks skinny and nimble, as do the austrian bikes, but the yam “looks” heavy and thick even if it’s actually not

@@253MC im a yammi guy.. two-strokes... but the 450 yammi is too fat in the gas tank area because of that stupid airbox...🤦

@@cadillachernandez2271 I'm a 125/150 guy myself, been riding a ktm 150 sx for a few years now and i honestly value the weight and ergonomics over power, I just feel like the yam 250 looks so cumbersome

Yeah but their suspension still need’s work

kawa and yamaha are my personal favorites. Yamaha is more refined but Kawas have fun engine character and look mean.

Wee've got plenty of plans for it, that's for sure!

You said it bud.

Yeah, things they loved the year before they hate now. Guess they are told what to pick and say

Yes, but MXA added a tooth to the rear sprocket first...lol

....& this year.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say GasGas

What are you riding currently and what’s most important to you in a new bike?

I have a 300cc smx and yeah it is the best brand. Here in france they are cheaper than usa of course but Tm factory are the best factory

there not popular in the states tbh especially for racing thats why they stick with these

Betas are awesome, they all seem to really crank out horsepower as well.

Very surprised Beta wasn't featured.

Why? It's no where near that. The bikes have evolved so far past the Suzuki .

@@specializ20 hoping they come out with something game changing

You defintly can

@@maxxi47 can

Possibly in its own review but not in our 250 motocross shootout. It’s not a moto bike or a 250 four stroke.

@@Tv-nv7st Your parents are wise. A 250 2-stroke only wants to kill us all. At least mine does...lol

I would wait until it’s a yellow KTM

Well it's for certain that it wouldn't be like my bike right now waiting on a battery to arrive so I can go ride.....

It is on top. For people like me that don’t need kickstart and like not having to pay 8k+ for a bike

@@JCem8409 you are the drastically thinning portion of the buyer’s. Most people who are willing to buy a new bike don’t mind the extra 2k (especially when financing is so cheap) to get all of the latest and greatest things.

@@brendonborrego4911 That's the problem is people financing these things, it let the dealers know they could f you and get away with it. Cash only my friends cash only.

Late to comment but high seats on the Honda, Ktm, Husky and Gasgas keep the ergo’s still great. I’m 6.1 and have the factory extra high seat on a Husky.

Awesome!

@@jrod1076 thanks🤘🏻

Why shouldnt be it first place? (Just asking haha)

@@sevay696 i feel like it just doesnt ride too good, little stiff, the airbox in the front doenst feel great🤷🏻‍♂️

@@AlexBekkema ho okay thank you for your answer

The Yamaha’s feel too stiff in my opinion and too heavy in the sandy corners

Tell that to Star Yamaha

Amen.🤘

No chance. Get with the times dude.

Depends. I have both, 06 yz250 2 stroke that’s in new condition with a works pipe and v force reeds, and a 21 yz250f that’s bone stock. The 2 stroke is fun to ride, but when I race, I’m racing the 4 stroke because I’m constantly faster on it.

@@jowens4160 i got a 09' yz 250 bought new.. still mint and a 21' yz 250 ...coulda bought any new 450... two-smokers 4 life!!!🤘🤘💯

As soon as one of these companys re release a new 500 two-stoke.. hopefully yamaha or honda CR... I'll be on the waiting list lol

The KX450F won on swapmoto live, not the 250F

@@da5863 yes right I havent notice that question mark :-) here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/meBykqij3tzMpY0.html

We used our 2021 model that we still had. Suzuki wasn't submitting 2022s for Shootout.

@@vitalmx how much longer do you really think Suzuki stays in business. I think they will ditch dirt all together very soon and try and keep just the street bikes alive for awhile.

@@jonruger they will stay in business forever since their profit is just fine outside of motocross.

That's a completely separate company

Definitely would like to!

True!!!

GREASE IT UP!

Yamaha hasn't had kick start in four. years

@@vitalmx my bad im thinking of my 250fx, your right

It's because of KTMs CEO. He wants to save money by having all three with the same platform just like car companies do it. He also said in an interview that he got the idea by looking at european car companies. But I 100% agree with you. But other companies do the same. Fantic for example is a european brand that is based completely on Yamahas.

@@mikehansenHamburg I agree it makes perfect sense why they do it keeps cost very low but it just bugs me to know half the bikes in most pro races are all basically one brand. Plus you know the parent company doesn’t want to lose to its own little brothers regardless of what they say they don’t want a championship going to GasGas or Husky they want them to be on a Orange bike. Not to say they are not happy when someone like Billy Bolt does win a title but you know they would prefer it to be Manny.

@@jonruger yeah European racing is weird like that. Like in F1 a lot of other race team’s use Mercedes engines in their car’s when they directly compete against Mercedes. Doesn’t make sense why you would supply your competitor with your engine. I know it’s just a stock engine and races are won with factory build’s but still. Maybe KTM is doing this to see what changes work better in their engine platform’s. Like, GasGas seems to be on to something with their stock bike being that it handle’s amazing but they don’t have that snappy power like KTM and Yamaha. Obviously KTM probably has night/day configurations for their factory bike but they seem like they would do better if they slimmed down a little weight and profile. Ultimately it depends on the rider of course. I can’t help but wonder if Jett Lawrence or Eli Tomac rode for KTM if they would’ve done as well… or possibly better? One thing’s for sure is Yamah is legit and being 6’3 203/lbs it’s probably the only stick bike that makes sense for me

Did you get it sold?

@@vitalmx I was able to sell the old bike. It went quick!

There's no development. They lost everything

Not possible.

I know it's rigged

Darn right, well said

Yea for power but not for weight ktm engine is so much stronger compared in durability depending on if you ride like a duck head and valve bash it buy ktm engine seeme to last longer

Ehh i still got my rmz2010 that i bought brand new and still purrs. Engines unopened aswell 🤞

Gas gas is better than most people think, although the new Honda is way better than 21’ model

@@wilbursworld246 parts are likely sourced from China, unproven

In 2026 they will be yellow

Are you serious I’ll be 60 but I will get one

@@MrDjh66 yes 06 and 16 were yellow its special aniversery i think

Ok yes I remember

Same answer we give every year. No Fantics in US, Sherco doesn’t make a motocross bike and TM’s are near impossible to get formShootout.

They don't participate in US Shootouts.

@@vitalmx next time put it in it will be great to see it for my

@@jurdegraaf6660 Well let's get someone to chip[ in $10,000 to buy one ha!

@@vitalmx i got one next year i mean you can youse it

Pretty sure we'd get accused of being partial to whatever wins shootout. Any year a different bike wins there's an accusation.

They explain why

@@chazzgonzalez1356 thanks man,

Just fode a buddies 22' yamaha 250f , great bike ! The manual calls for new piston every 15 hours ? Are they serious, that seems wrong ?

@@kruse1105 Yamaha recommends a top end and cam chain every 15hrs and i have seen bikes that snap cam chains at 30hrs, bottom ends at 40hrs, the gears wearing so fast they need to be replaced under 40hrs, there is no longevity out of the yamaha 250d now, sad when a ktm is now half the maitnance and cost to take it to 40hrs lol. And not to mention the new crf250r is a all new design motor so not sure how all the mechanics will go rebuilding them in the first few years lol

@@matthewwest1262 I got a 20 yz250f 120 hours an still running likes it straight out the show room floor take care an keep up with maintenance an the bike will last long

@@jorgegama3848 what have you done to it mate? Because the manufacturer says 15hrs on a piston and cam chain, and i know they dont hold up to 120hrs with somebody who can ride the bike the way its ment to be ridden, i could see 120hrs of easy trail riding but the valves and top end should of had maitnance by then!!

@Phil Swift not really, they say thay because a part is designed to not last reliably if taken past the hrs recommend. Its like oil changes lol the ones that have the maitnance last, its not optional haha the new yamahas are junk at 40hrs sorry if i hurt your feelings if you read this and own one😂