And the stupid thing is that they didn’t even do it for MPG’s they did it for emissions. Yes they could definitely make the 5.7 get better mileage, maybe an 8 speed tranny or even different gears, IMO. But I still love my 21 and wouldn’t trade it for a 3rd gen.

V8 down on power, it's a dog. Sounds great, goes nowhere....

Awesome meeting you Edgar! Looking forward to future content with you

22s we’re having a lot of problems mechanically. I think 24s are better.

The previous generation is definitely a great looking truck! For the 2022 reliability, every vehicle will have their issues initially. Even the previous generation tundra had its issues early on. Time will tell to see how reliable or unreliable the new generation is. I have no intent of getting rid of my truck so I can be the test subject lol

The truck is definitely smaller. Actually didn’t pay much attention to it on the video till you pointed it out. In person, the difference wasn’t as significant as it appears on the video lol. I too previously owned an EcoBoost so I can relate 🤣

Wow that's like the worst moment for it to happen, but it makes sense as towing is a high load scenario that would stress the engine. Now that the new Mustang and Super Duty are out we can at least say that the new 6.8L V8 will very likely never be used in anything else than the HD trucks. A shame because that motor is brilliant but it will get worse fuel economy than the 5.0 so that's the reason. It has better outputs though with 405 hp (vs 400) and 445 lb-ft (vs 410) of torque. Ford chose that design for maximum realistic reliability while still delivering fuel economy (to make it even more reliable you'd have to remove EFI and make it fully mechanical with that simple PFI OHV engine, which kills fuel economy and outputs). F-250 is a big step up from F-150 so this is gonna be dicey.

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 If I was to buy a F-250 I would only get the 7.3L V8. The diesel is over kill and extremely pricey to buy and to maintain. The 6.8L V8 to me is a waste. What's the point when it is many ways almost as good as the 7.3 but isn't as good. Either way the 7.3L V8 Godzilla is an incredible motor so far.

@@TristanGrimaldo Ford does a terrible job letting you know what is required to own a twin turbo motor. I hope Toyota is doing a better job. First, they don't tell you that you have to do a TDI service every 30-40k (turbo direct injection) to clean out the built up carbon. If you don't do that it can kill your motor over time. Second, you have to change out the barrings every 80,000 miles and they are not cheap. It was around $600 on that F-150 I owned. Third, if you do a lot of towing your turbos will wear out prematurely. I got to 153,000'ish miles when they blew and that was it. All said and done I don't think I got any better gas, and infact I got worse mpg towing. Averaged around 7.5-9.5 mpg. Just awful.

@@SuperSnakePlissken Agreed.

Thank you Jesus! 🙂Many more comparison videos featuring Edgar to come. Stay tuned 😉

Hope you'll get one. I just purchased a 2020 TRD pro few days ago and I love it.

I just bought a 2021 SR5 CrewMax and the interior space is huge!!! My family loves it! No way I’d buy the new gen for my family.

Very good point! The V8 has proven itself to reach 300k miles or more consistently. This being a new powertrain, that has yet to be seen. My confidence in Toyota there and the closest resemblance in its potential would be the Prius (which I own). Prius are known to hit 300k miles easily as well and even some million mile Prius out there also. Batteries can be replaced but the motor's Toyota engineers develop are designed to remain consistent with their brand and reputation. I can't say the same for the Supra and its BMW motor though lol

You don’t have to opt for the hybrid

That's awesome!

Thank you! 🙏. The 2022 TRD pro definitely comes at a higher price point excluding all the mark ups and dealer add-ons. But personally, I do see why. The 2022 Tundra’s technology & features surpasses the previous generation. But that’s what also makes the previous generation amazing. It’s simplicity 🙂. Many more comparison videos to come featuring Edgar and his 2020 Army Green TRD Pro Tundra. Stay tuned 😎

Thank you honey!

The previous gen TRD pro is definitely a beautiful truck. Has a timeless look. The new gen look definitely isn’t for everyone lol

Completely agree with you! Only time will tell to see how this new powertrain holds up. But I have the upmost confidence in Toyota.

Thank you John! It was definitely awesome getting the opportunity to drive each other’s trucks! Each are awesome in their own special way! More comparison videos to come 😉

@@TristanGrimaldo Looking forward to it.

Thank you! 🙏. Many more to come featuring Edgar. Stay tuned and thank you for watching!

Thank you! 🙏. Both are beautiful trucks indeed. Lunar rock is definitely a beautiful color! Sometimes compliments go more towards the color than the actual truck 😁. Many more comparison videos to come. Stay tuned 😎

Thank you! 🙏 I really enjoyed driving his v8.

Thank you Eric! Glad you found video informative and entertaining. If you have any questions to help you with your decision please don’t hesitate to reach out. Thank you for watching.

Can’t go wrong with that decision. It’s a great truck!

Thank you Mike! More videos to come with Edgar. Stay tuned 😎

I just noticed that! 😁 perfect timing to pass by and get his truck in the shot

Thank you David! Honestly, I loved Edgar’s truck. I told Edgar this that in the long run, his TRD pro is going to be worth a lot of money no doubt about it. Something about the simplicity of it that I loved. Personally if I could own both I would 😁

@@TristanGrimaldo :) yes sir. Having both would be a perfect world. Who knows, maybe one day they'll decide to come out with a limited run of the TRD Pro with a V8. You just never know.

@@davidbonnet9614 You never know but man how awesome that would be! Ford did it with the Raptor R

@@TristanGrimaldo that’s exactly what I was thinking. Hey we can always hope :)

Definitely a noticeable difference! Not to say the new one isn’t roomy or comfortable. Just surprised how much smaller it is compared to the older generation. Thanks for watching!

Thank you! 🤙🏻

Win win either way in my opinion. 😎🔥

@@TristanGrimaldo I have a 2020 Trd pro same color as Edgar, I love the interior space but me being a single dad with a seven-year-old, I don’t need much huge space in the back of a crew max anyway.When my lease is up I am going to go look for the 2022-2023 Trd pro as my upgrade you can’t beat the mileage compared to the V-8. The way I see it got to move with the times.How close was the 0 to 60 sprint with the tow haul mode on compared to your truck? You said it felt similar on the video but how much similar? I havn’t drove a 2022 yet. I never cared about top speed but what counts for me is from a dead stop 0-60 zip. I wish the 2022 had the same hight as the 2020 if not maybe a little higher but other than that,that’s a perfect truck for me.👍🏼💪🏼Albert from the Los Angeles area

@@Albert-777 Hey Albert! I’m a regular in LA and Cali. Have family there and in the Bay Area. To answer your question, when Edgar had me press the tow haul mode button, the throttle felt more sensitive and responsive. It also seemed to hold the gear longer. But you also saw Edgar’s reaction to driving my TRD Pro. Crazy thing is it wasn’t even in sport mode which I guess would be equivalent to that tow haul mode button. I tried a 0-60 run with an app and if I remember correctly it put up 6.3 seconds? Overall, you will love the I-Force Max. I have not met someone who has said anything about the driving experience of the I-Force Max. Toyota honestly did a great job using the electric motor to fill in the dips in the power and torque curve. Puts a smile on my face every time. Thank you for watching and if you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to reach out.

@@TristanGrimaldo Thank you for the reply I totally appreciate it.👍🏼ps maybe one day I’ll run into you in the LA area.(Whittier)👍🏼💪🏼stay safe out there 😎

Lmao!! Small world indeed! You’re definitely 💯 accurate on the location. That’s too funny 🤣. Thank you for watching! And if you have any questions don’t hesitate to reach out. More videos to come with Edgar.

I personally don’t mind it. As long as they don’t get carried away like BMW has with their grilles 🤣

Thank you! 🙏 We discussed this and plan on doing tons of direct comparison videos for everyone. Stay tuned 😎

Thank you! A lot of great videos out there reviewing the new Tundra, but it’s always more credible hearing it from a true owner’s perspective. Stay tuned for a short that I’ll be recording that compares media reviews vs. real owner reviews. I’m going to have fun with that one 🤣. Honestly after driving Edgar’s truck, personally I wouldn’t mind owning a V8 too lol.

@@TristanGrimaldo still love the 22 wish it couldve been bigger. I Dont even mind the V6 TT honestly. But as a family of 6 i needed that Crewmax 6 seater 4x4 (Rare) so i had to drop 40k cash on a good deal lol. 2015 SuperWhite SR5 with Trd Off Road package. ive already made the seats Red, blacked out all emblems. 5% tint lumar all around, lots of lighting, i left my 32 inch lightbar switch same place as the 22 lol. Im about to install a DB Customz grill in the future. Next up im waiting on my 3 inch lift with Falken MT’s 35x12.5x17 on rock warrior wheels 😅. Since i couldnt buy a pro with 6 seats had to make tbe Sr5 look like a Pro.

@@18HunnidBK your truck sounds awesome! My F150 was a 6 seater and my front bench seat actually came in handy haha. But honestly either way you go, the new Tundra in my opinion is a great truck. Yes it’s not perfect but Toyota is proactive and very involved. If I didn’t have the TRD pro, I would have heavily modified my Tundra (volks, overland gear, etc.) lol.

Hey James! Congrats on your upcoming 2022 Tundra. The visibility in my opinion is a slightly narrower in my opinion. Not sure if it's because of the cabin or head room, but many who have rode shotgun have mentioned something about it. It isn't bad and its acceptable. Honestly, maybe even the bulge from the hood scoop of the 2020 TRD PRO was a little more bothersome. I guess I am not used to it but I found myself constantly staring at the bulge lol

@@TristanGrimaldo Thanks Tristan! Liked noticeable but acceptable, keep on uploading!

Thank you!

Thank you 🙏. Unfortunately, I’m not a part of any Tundra forums or groups. I used to be involved in a lot of car forums but struggle to find time now a days, especially with this channel. May try to make an effort soon though to connect with other Tundra owners

It’s a beautiful truck!

That would be a truck I personally would want to own also lol

Thank you! Edgar mentioned he drove the non-hybrid 2022 Tundra and the power difference is night and day. That hybrid motor definitely eliminates any turbo lag. Just a great driving experience. More comparison videos to come so stay tuned. Thank you for watching!

Thank you Javier!

Thank you for that Craig! I’ll definitely look into that more and compare it again next time I see Edgar. I was a fan of the larger room in the rear primarily for my family. But honestly even though it’s slightly smaller, it’s still fairly comfortable.

The front seats definitely. The rear seats unfortunately not. I actually had no say in the spec or build of my truck. It was like “here you go. If you don’t take it your wait might extend to a year lol”

Thank you! 🙏We will definitely consider all request for content and try to make it happen. A new dynamic duo may have just formed 😎

@@TristanGrimaldo You guys make a good team. BTW I was curious if you are Filipino?

@@joeyd9547 Thank you! Shooting with Edgar was very natural and we do plan on shooting many more videos together. And yes, I am Filipino and still speak fluently 🙂

@@TristanGrimaldo I know a compadre when I see one. Glad I found your channel and will be following you. I hope to own a Tundra someday as a secondary vehicle to tow a travel trailer.

@@joeyd9547 😁 Thank you Joey! I typically get mistaken for Vietnamese. An older Vietnamese gentleman came up to me at the gym the other day and started speaking to me in his language. I told him I wasn’t Vietnamese and that I was Filipino. He legitimately looked disappointed 🤣. Thank you for your support and if you need any assistance getting a Tundra (either generation) i would contact Bradley (left his contact info below in the description). I even saw a previous gen TRD pro on their lot not too long ago. It’s gone now though lol

The new Tundra is definitely smaller. It drives and handles better for sure! But I’m wondering if it’s because of their new global platform where size had to be sacrificed to develop a more balanced truck

The powertrain has been used in Japan for quite sometime even before releasing it to us in the states. I agree with your concerns but only time will tell. I expected the same from my F150 ecoboost but that thing was around 150k miles maybe before I sold it and never had issues with the turbo 🙂.

I do love my truck and a huge fan of the newer gen Tundra 😁. Thank you for watching 👍

Many do 👍

Nice! Hope it all works out for you

They are the TRD aluminum cast running boards. I love them! Here is a link to my video reviewing these. The part number is also on the description. m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iKthgq1oxrKnl6c.html If you have any further questions don’t hesitate to reach out. Thank you for watching 🙏

Awesome!! Thanks so much for the quick response! Would these hold up well with a little bit of scraping on a trail? I don’t plan to do any crazy off-roading but just want to make sure they won’t fold with a bit of rough driving off-road.

@@Kapes56 No problem! These are well made and are very durable. Significant upgrade from my other running boards. This one is all aluminum. Honestly the best of both worlds. Durability of the rock/slide rails but the ability to utilize as a step. I don’t plan on doing anything too crazy either and these will definitely service it’s purpose

So… not sliders.

In person, you don’t see to much of a size difference. In the video, damn I didn’t realize how much smaller it is. My truck looks like a Tacoma next to his TRD Pro lol

Thank you 👍

Great example Francisco! Especially because I own a S2000 and you’re absolutely correct. Just a pure driving experience and why I never want to get rid of it. It may not be the fastest, but the experience makes it well worth it.

@@TristanGrimaldo I had an AP1 and that 9,000rpm thrill is addictive.

@@franciscocruz6726 I have an AP1 as well! I drove an AP2 and that 9k redline is where its at

The previous gen tundra is definitely a great looking truck!

You have a great truck. Seeing Edgar’s truck in person made me appreciate that v8 and it’s simplicity. Your truck will be worth a lot in the long run. Definitely a keeper in my opinion 👍

I’ll get Edgar to chime in on this haha

get 19 in my wifes 21 there only about 1 mpg better all around

Aside from the smaller interior cabin, there are just so many things I love about my truck and you pointed out some key features 👍

Any 16 and 17 with supercharger says otherwise. No 22 can smoke the supercharger Tundra.

Sure but nobody was comparing a modified truck vs a stock truck here. Keep your gen2 or buy one if you don’t own one but love it. I’ve had 4 already, I wanted a new Tundra and I’m happy with it. 17 is still in the driveway, it’s going up for sale and will sell easily. It’ was and still is a great truck

I agree with you Johnny. At least test drive it or experience it first. This video captures that perfectly in my opinion. This video was truly as honest and non-bias as it can get. I told Edgar before we shot this video was that I want him to be 100% honest and so will I. I’m sure everyone would appreciate it. Both trucks are great in their own way and at the end of the day, they’re both Toyota 💪🏼

@@TristanGrimaldo Yes I appreciate an honest review! Just tired of hearing so much bad feedback from gen2 owners that haven't even sat in a 22, let alone test drive one. And to be clear when I said "smokes" my 2017 or any of the 4 gen2's I've owned. I don't only mean power and drivetrain. I'ts more then that, personally after having the 22 for 2 months now, going back to my 17 the seats felt really flat, hard, and uncomfortable. Power was less, but my 17 also has 125K KM on it. And just overall the electronics can't compare, the 14" screen, the 360 camera system, how it turns into EV only while parking, moon roof, etc etc. Its just got so much new tech in it, that Im loving. Granted a 21 probably has a little more then my 17, but not enough for me to want a 5th Gen2 21 over a new Gen3 22. And I understand we can't really compare reliabailty yet, but my gen 2's weren't all perfect either. My first Tundra in 2008 had some engine sernsors go bad at very low milage, had to wait 2 months for backorderd parts but had it fixed under warrenty. And my 2012 again from almost new siezd the steering rack up, again coverered under warrenty. So we will see I only have 2600 KM on my 2022 currently, but I have faith in Toyota that they will take care of any potential problems.

@@JohnnyP636 Well said! Everyone loves Toyota for their quality and reliability. It’s too early to tell exactly how reliable it is, but many seem to forget that Toyota built their brand and company on quality and reliability. No vehicle is perfect but they are historically very involved and pro active in quality control. I appreciate Toyota’s efforts to address issues. I personally have never seen this with other brands. Especially Ford 🤣

Haven’t had much time for off road. Highway cruising it’s great

Man I would love to ride in a supercharged V8 Tundra. Only seen videos of them but seems like a lot of fun! And yes mark ups on the TRD pro are horrible. Much worse actually now than when I bought my truck

Doesn’t the supercharger affect reliability

@@MrAllan875 I have not read up on the forum with anyone really having any issues with the supercharger. Maybe someone who has had one on there tundra will jump in.

@@MrAllan875 My only experience with superchargers are with the S2000 world. Arguably more reliable and easy to maintain. Turbo set ups seem to have more issues. When I get to my s2000 build Im definitely going with a supercharger. A supercharged v8 tundra would be a beast of a truck. Probably sounds awesome too

There is definitely more plastic than I would want in the interior, but nothing that truly bothers me. Congrats on your purchase!

Hello there. The color is not a wrap. It’s actually OEM from Toyota. It’s called Lunar Rock 👍

@@TristanGrimaldo sweet… i have a solar octane I’m waiting on, but I’m likely gonna wrap it. Too loud for me, thanks for the video!

Unfortunately not. But plan to when I tow in the future. I just gotta find something to tow 😁

@Tristan Grimaldo I've never tow and i use it daily it makes the truck run a lot stronger might be even worth a video

Hey Marcus! Let me take a look and see if I can find that part number for you. If not, I’ll reach out to my contacts at Toyota to see if I can find out for you.

From what I have seen online on the Tundra forums, Toyota is still not selling them as parts currently. You can buy the grille but not the marker lights yet. All the guys I have seen that have done the TRD PRO marker light conversions have had to use aftermarket options. Rave offroad sells an aftermarket kit with wiring to retrofit into a non TRD Pro, however due to high demand I beleive they are backordred currently.There are also aftermarket kits on Ebay for marker lights and light bar combo kit, but they are from China

@@TristanGrimaldo thanks! Big fan of your content! Your tuck is dope!

@@JohnnyP636 Interesting. I'll keep an eye out for it and whatever information I obtain, I promise to help out my fellow Tundra owners

@@marcus3jankowski Thank you Marcus! I appreciate the kind words and support. Let me try to find some things out for you and all 2022 Tundra owners. Whatever I can do to help

Thank you! You’ll love your Tundra. Edgar was all smiles and open minded to owning one says a lot. And I 100% agree with you there. Toyota never settles and strives for continuous improvement. As a purist, I wish Toyota would have brought back an updated version of the 2JZ or have their engineers develop their own motor in house.

Stock exhaust, flowmaster muffler. TRD exhaust was a bit too quiet for my taste lol

Sounds beautiful! I was embarrassed to rev my truck after hearing his v8 🤣

Definitely a tested and proven truck. It had its rough patches along the way as well but Toyota eventually perfected it. It’s Toyota at the end of the day. Their entire reputation is based on reliability which is why I’m not worried. Yes it’s new, but the power train has been utilized in Japan for awhile now. I’m sure with time this new gen will prove to be just as reliable

If the V8 had a 10 speed it would be a beast!

That’s awesome!! Congratulations and glad you’re enjoying your truck!

Your 20 TRD pro sounds like a beast! I’m sure it sounds great also. Did you drive the iforce or iforce max? Haven’t drove the iforce but I have zero complaints about my hybrid motor honestly. Driven some very powerful vehicles in the past and for a truck, personally impressed with it.

@@TristanGrimaldo it does sound great. It is a little annoying when towing a trailer on the highway and the sound reverberates back in the cab. it was just the ifocre bit the hybrid. I’m sure it drives much better off the line. I’ve heard great things about the 10 speed as well. Everything that I have heard about quality control issues is another big concern for me.

@Tristan Grimaldo Edit: I just tried a Capstone. Liked it but didn’t “love” it. Just feels so different and I was noticing all of the QC flaws I’ve been reading about. Particularly a whistling, wind noise. Off the line that had a lot of pool. But midway in the power band I didn’t seem to notice the torque of the electric motor is much. Definitely hunted for gears. more than my 6 speed. Although I’m sure 10 speed is much better for towing. In a perfect world the new body style and 10 speed transmission with my blown 550/550 motor. That would be a unicorn.

You make a valid point. I too agree that maybe a lot of the hate may stem from the 2022 Tundra’s price. My situation was different as the last truck I had was an F150. With the previous gen Tundra being such a great truck, I can see why it would be difficult to justify the transition to the new gen. The price for trucks in general have increased tremendously. But yes, both trucks are truck special in their own way and I’ve said it before, the V8 Tundra will increase in price dramatically I am sure. Just a great investment overall.

Great point Dave. I know this powertrain still needs to prove itself so we’ll see how long-term ownership looks like. I plan on keeping under some sort of warranty at all times.

😂

I believe they removed that handle in the 2020 Tundra. It’s a very useful feature that helps you get in and out of your truck easier

new ones are of course superior in about every aspect the only qyestion will be reliability and well thats gonna take some time to figure out

I think a lift and 35s would do wonders to the stance of my truck. There are a lot of things I love about the previous gen Tundra, but the new gen Tundra has some features that I believe should are a necessity. I imagine taking the best of both trucks and putting it together. Would make the perfect Tundra.

Watch Drive Companion's video on his lifted Tundra on 35s. It's very interesting. I sadly can't post the link because KZfaq would then remove my comment.

@@TristanGrimaldo What would those features be?

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Will definitely check it out. Thank you!

I think you’re right. But overall, we both noticed the newer gen definitely handles better. But comfort is similar

I definitely took the L there 🤣

I did not. But based on what we saw it seems like the older one is definitely bigger

The older gen Tundra is definitely a gem ❤️

Completely understand. But remember, Toyota has been running this powertrain for some time now in Japan. Only time will how reliable this power trains are, but I’m confident that it’s Toyota who engineered it.

Brandon! Enjoying that $50 Starbucks gift card? 😁👍

Can’t go wrong with the Raptor 👍👍

Definitely valid points. That v8 is tested and proven. I believe Toyota has been running the motor (I-Force Max) for several years already in Japan. Only time will tell but your points are accurate 🙂

From what I hear the v6 is not doing much better on mpg … 1-2 mpg better, very disappointing

Could be!

Completely agree with you! No doubt the v8 will be more valuable in the near future.

Before my Tundra, I was looking at a Tacoma TRD pro in lunar rock with a manual transmission. I love Tacomas. Always felt the interior was too small for my needs but the rest of the truck is solid

@@TristanGrimaldo i agree with you but it does come standard with more creature comforts than the tundra pro. Not sure why that is. I really miss my tacoma but i have what i needed for towing & interior space

Now that you mention it didn’t realize just how long the rear doors are! They don’t look bad but yes they are long lol.

Oh I’m sure my truck won’t stand a chance. I was able to make my f150 ecoboost quick, but find no interest or purpose in modifying my Tundra for speed 😂

I get ya, but I supercharged mine for more pulling power plus it's so much fun again love the channel keep up the good work

@@Matt-tf1wz I knew a guy with a supercharged tundra. It was the single cab too. Thing ran 12s lol

Economical at $60,000 baseline and no substantial mpg improvement.

Lol

😂 I raced my friend’s 2020 Tundra and honestly not sure if he had tow haul mode on haha. Who wants to see Edgar and I race at the drag strip? 😎

@Kevin Kwas discussing this with Edgar the other day. We will make it happen in the near future 🙂

I think each are special in their own way and each have an advantage over each other in different aspects. But either way, great trucks from Toyota