It's a good point. If you look at the Car and Driver times for these cars, the S4 is certainly the launch king but everything else the G70 wins at. 5-60 (the real acceleration test) has the G70 at 5.0sec and the S4 at 5.7sec. The G70 also wins 30-50 and 50-70. Was the driver of the S4 the owner and thus more familiar with how to get the best out of the car?

7 Million hyundai KIA cars has being recalled between 2010-2020 Hyundai cars had HUGE problem. Do not buy them; DOnt belive me? here is the list. NHTSA Recall IDVehicle MakeVehicle Model(s)# Vehicles RecalledRecall Date10V388KIA2010 Soul, 2011 Sorento35,1858/31/201011V256KIA2004-07 Spectra58,3224/25/201115V015KIA2014 Forte86,8801/16/201515V568HYUNDAI2011-2012 Sonata470,0009/10/201516V815KIA2008-09 Sportage71,70411/10/201617V224KIA2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage, 2012-2014 Sorento618,1603/31/201717V226HYUNDAI2013-2014 Sonata and Santa Fe Sport572,0003/31/201717V578HYUNDAI2017 Santa Fe4209/20/201717V586KIA2017 Sorento629/21/201718V026HYUNDAI2006 Sonata, 2006-11 Azera87,8541/9/201818V257KIA2017 Niro27,0294/20/201818V260HYUNDAI2017 Ioniq10,1564/24/201818V666KIA2017-2018 Niro27,0309/25/201818V704HYUNDAI2017-18 Ioniq10,57510/5/201818V754KIA2018 Stinger16,01110/25/201818V907KIA2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage, 2012-2014 Sorento71,65312/19/201818V934HYUNDAI2011-2014 Sonata and 2013-14 Santa Fe Sport150,73012/28/201819V063HYUNDAI2011-13 Tucson120,0002/5/201919V101KIA2011-12 Sportage32,2962/15/201919V120KIA2012-16 Soul378,9672/22/201919V204HYUNDAI2013 Veloster16,4873/14/201920V061HYUNDAI2007-2010 Elantra and 2009-2011 Elantra Touring476,1112/4/202020V088KIA2006-2010 Sedona and 2007-2009 Sorento228,8292/14/202020V100KIA2013-2014 Optima141,7742/21/202020V101KIA2011-2012 Sedona51,4652/21/202020V121HYUNDAI2013-2014 Sonata206,8962/28/202020V393HYUNDAI2011-2012 Elantra and Sonata Hybrid, 2012 Accent and Veloster272,1267/2/202020V399KIA2020 Sedona 5,3857/8/202020V518KIA2019 Stinger9,4438/27/202020V519KIA2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento440,3708/27/202020V520HYUNDAI2013-15 Santa Fe Sport151,2058/27/202020V543HYUNDAI2016-2021 Tucson652,0549/4/202020V630HYUNDAI2019-2020 Kona6,70710/13/202020V746HYUNDAI2012 Santa Fe, 2011-13 and 2016 Sonata Hybrid, 2015-16 Veloster128,94812/1/202020V750KIA2012-2013 Sorento, 2012-2015 Forte and Forte Koup, 2011-2013 Optima Hybrid, 2014-2015 Soul, and 2012 Sportage294,75612/2/202021V137KIA2017-19 Cadenza, 2017-21 Sportage379,9313/4/202121V160HYUNDAI2015-16 Genesis, 2017-2020 Genesis G8094,6463/10/202121V161HYUNDAI2019-21 Genesis G705523/10/202121V208HYUNDAI2021 Genesis G80, GV801473/25/202121V259KIA2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul147,2494/13/202121V277KIA2022 Kia Carnival2,7444/21/202121V301HYUNDAI2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster125,8404/28/202121V303HYUNDAI2013-15 Santa Fe Sport151,2054/28/202121V308HYUNDAI2021 Santa Fe25/3/202121V331KIA2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento440,2705/10/2021

@@SlipAngleG70 launch is heavily dependent on the driver very much so. I have the ‘22 G70 sport advanced (RWD) and I get 0-60 in 4.4s. I get 0-80 in 5.8s this review is great because to see a genesis compete with an Audi is nice. BUT…. The driver most definitely didn’t do this car justice.

@@Battl3ATth3Frontlin3 I know, I have a 2019 G70 3.3T. My best stock is 4.3

@@SlipAngleG70 its funny people only knew about genesis because of the coupe, which is nice and fun to drive. I was fully aware that the auto trans would be a little.... off?. more specifically when you're launching in auto mode or braking/downshifting in auto mode. but the car turns into a completely different animal when in manual mode! lol, I love my G70, didn't think I would based on prior genesis cars I've had. but ill be damned! for being an auto I feel almost as engaged in driving like I would be driving a manual. (rip). The 1 gripe I have.... I wish they had a slightly more agro auto trans, almost like the Audi or even M3/M4. but its really a minor issue if you know how to launch I guess.

3rd normal mode race, you can see they react together, so not the case. everyone doesn't react perfect every time, even though you're there for that. these cars stock, do have about the same 1/4 mile times, so this is very fair and accurate

Excuses. G70 is simply slower.

You can put a nascar drive in that g70, the m340i can give it a head start and still put it up his butt 🥴😂 stop

@@gustavomarin6535 NOT True ! Where do you get that info from ? motortrend and car and driver times, G70 has a wee bit faster times, from their testing..oh.. the M340i, yes, you're right, but the 340i, the G70 takes it.. and it's closer in price, so if being fair fair in comparing...... G70 is the more luxury all around nicer vehicle, IMHO

@@rpmautoreviews9249 I was talking about the m340i, not the 340. It takes it with ease. Which is not a surprise since it basically takes every car in the segment with ease. The s4 gets completely destroyed by the m340i and the s4 destroys the g70. We’re in a racing channel. Not a luxury channel. It does have a nice interior, not that the bmw is ugly or anything. When you have a brand backed up a brand like Hyundai you better have luxury if you’re not going to put perform an m340i or any car with a big luxury brand name

I was thinking the same thing… the g70 was always launching poorly

Ikr

You make the video then dude!

It’s an automatic car and in most of these runs there’s thing more you can do than simply mash your right foot. So I don’t know how using a walk-in talkie slows him down. If these were manual cars and shifts were being delayed due to the extra objects in hand then i can see an argument that he shouldn’t be screwing around. I love how all these ricer wanna be’s still live by “iTs nOt ThE cAr ItS tHe DrIvEr”. As time goes on computers do all the work and you do nothing but mash the pedal. This is already true of most cars and every single electric car.

Make your own drag racing channel then! You kids are absolutely insufferable. No wonder you're the generation of lazy, ignorant snowflakes.

As a genesis/hyundai technician this is false. Boost builds from 1,500 rpms, the genesis needs driver mod... he even says “the audi shifts faster”

@@Nnon11026hj entirely driver error, if they swapped cars the audi would lose

What’s crazy is I drove a 2023 g70 2.0t AWD and it would launch hard af!! Like breaking loose the tires hard. But every video I’ve seen where people try to launch, they can’t. I had no problem. And even the 2.0t was insane off the line

The Audi will be broke down in no time!

@@eucmike 😂😂😂😂😂 As an Audi owner.. FACTS!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

@40 Roller Butthurt? This is not even a Kia. Lol

@@eucmike true. The Audi is good when it's not broke. Lol

@40 Roller So you use “boy” the most cliche word? Lol. I’ve owned an Audi, BMWs, and Mercedes, and like all German cars, it’s designed to fall apart right after it’s short warranty. All my German cars have fallen apart befor warranty except one which was leased. I’ve never owned a Korean car and only recently have I considered getting a genesis because of their design, drivability, power train, and warranty. I know my German cars “boy”.

Exactly. No one seems to realize this.

Nah man it’s the transmission. My Veloster N with the new 8 speed wet clutch DCT launches super hard beating the manufacturers estimated 5.2 second 0-60 mph every time lol. 4.8s all day. They need to put the new 8 speed DCT out of Veloster Ns in this. Gonna need to beef it up more for the higher hp and torque tho

@@frf1670 The V6 turbo has 100 more HP and torque. Sorry but Hyundai/Genesis has yet to develop a transmission that can reliability take that to 100k miles because numb nuts always will drag race their cars. I’m sure Hyundai will soon. A DCT for the turbo V6 would be awesome.

Fastest 1/4 in G70 not using launch control and shifting at 5500-5700

Ya, bought G70 3.3T RWD. If you noticed the stig (Sam) was driving AWD. Maybe RWD has a very slight advantage over AWD, my guess. A DCT trans would go a long way to get the most out of the 3.3T. For the extended warranty and $5k plus savings over the S4, would take the G70 for sure.

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Genesis is doing that on purpose because of its 100k mile warranty on the power train.

I agree. Not as bad a the q50 though. I never liked the way my q50 or q70L shifted. I just got a 2022 g70 3.3t yesterday and to be honest, (If I was going to go with a genisis) I wanted a g80 as I like a bigger and more luxury oriented car, but there are very little new cars at the moment, my q70L's lease was up 3 months ago and they want it back by Monday (even though they agreed to a 6 month extension.) The 530i is an absolute joke and has zero balls, lexus is has nothing under their hood either, unless you want to spend 80k, mercedes had no inventory, cadillac had no inventory and so I just decided to check out the g70. It's very responsive, comes with far more goodies and power than the 530i and although it's much smaller, it was nice drive something different and fun for a change. I was going to go with a q50 Red sport, but I had a q50s prior to my q70L and nothing changed aside from the motor. It's hard to go from a car that was 202" long, to one that's 185", but you get a lot for just under 53k and again, it's fun to drive!

Tlx coming

Can’t do that

Why you don't want us to find out you have been sandbagging the genesis 😁

@@mohamedmoustapha7896 there’s an insurance purpose.

Good info.

If that is the argument and S4 went ECU tune as well....forget about it G70...

Ok but give the competitors an ECU tune and it’s over for the G70

@@thekingandi1705 I mean tune the ECU only to remove the torque limiters on launch, however with G70 & Stinger ECU tunes coming out now they are fully competitive with S4 ECU tunes and 1/4 mile times stage for stage.

@@thekingandi1705 he doesn’t mean you need to EC you to all you need to do is do the parking brake launch it is not a modification it’s just a different way to launch to build boost on launch. I have a stinger and with parking brake launch can do 4.2 0-60 n 12.5 1/4 mile all day.

@@Tsand4 ahh got it. Now that makes sense. I didn't understand that so I appreciate the clarification. From everything I have seen they are certainly fast little cars with insane potential.

One car will last for a very long time, the other will need very expensive repairs, and we all know which one...

Correction.. Germans make great cars under warranty or lease.. after that pure crap…and mega $$

They have much longer history of engineering. Also the launch control in the G70 is absolute trash, it produces no boost and only rev's to 2k to protect the warranty.

@@TheNoobsteak Plus the Audi has a better transmission

@@TheNoobsteak No doubt that Audi is faster but does not mean G70 is trash lol. What a hater. G70 is still decent car compare to German. if you think of price and warranty, it is better car for those even if you are rich, you do not always drag race all time.

@40 Roller agreed, this kid always talk carp about german cars. F*ck off tim

@40 Roller 😂😂😂 u drive a golf foh

You know that’s pretty dangerous to do? You are putting pressure on the e brake, i can’t do this with oem cars! Your car is different. Plus why cheat? The audi doesn’t need to do?

@@SamCarLegion it’s not cheating at all. It’s not a mod or anything. You literally have to alter nothing to do it. Just pull up ebrake give little throttle to actually build boost let go n take off like a bat out of hell!

@@ruthlessruth846 wtf r u talkin about lol I have no problem with German cars. This clown sayin stinger crap can but drives a golf he set himself up for that one🤷🏻‍♂️

Mild hybrid is only on the newer A4. S4/5 still use the same V6T, but Audi could have done some tweaks to it.

Not true in my experience - my 2018 S5 SB is the most trouble free car I’ve ever owned and I’m 3.5 years and 43K miles in. This is after lemon-lawing 2 Genesis sedan/G80’s in a row for rattling sunroofs (2015 replaced with a 2016 which was subsequently bought back) - I liked the car, but the sunroof design was flawed!

@@joneill63 Between myself, family, and close friends, we have had more than 20 Audis over the years, plus a bunch of VWs. The only one I can remember that had no issues was a 1979 Audi 4000, which we only had for about a year. I do admit that none of them were 2018 or newer models. I think my friend's S4 with electronic issues is a 2016. His 2008 S4 went through oil like crazy. Again, I absolutely love them, but I don't feel they are for people who expect to just drive their cars. Sounds like you've good a good one. Hopefully it stays that way!

Yea I’m between an S5 or the G70. I WANT the Audi but I’m concerned about maintenance and pricing. Like how expensive are oil changes and brakes and all that? I want a nice car but don’t want to pay an arm and a leg just to keep it going.

You love Audis because they are true luxury cars with heritage and a pedigree, unlike this Hyundai thing tryna compete with the likes of it..

Welcome :)

It changes the car the only reason s4 got out infront was because if the launch. The g70 launch control doesn’t build boost on launch.once the launch was taken out of equation it was neck n neck or whoever got jump was ahead

Sexy as long as it’s under warranty…. Or lease

The TLX Type S beat the Audi S4 (RedlineReview), and the Audi S4 beat/lost to the Mercedes C43 AMG (Throttle House), and the S4 beat the Genesis G70 3.3T (this video). And the BMW M340i beat the S4 and C43 (Throttle House), therefore... BMW M340i > Acura TLX Type S > Audi S4 = Mercedes C43 AMG > Genesis G70

@@TheBreakfastLover Have a link to the TLX Type S vs Audi S4 video?

@@TheBreakfastLover that wasn't a real test. Lets see what happens in a few weeks.

@@TheBreakfastLover lol

@@TheBreakfastLover That wasn't a real race or a good example. Still TBD on S4 vs Type S.

You mean if money wasn't a issue, you would buy the RS4.

@@garys2157 rs6**

@@teej5619 ***Rimac

@@garys2157 Nah save some money and just tune the s4

@@vroomgc You could do that, but I hear the RS4 will also tune quite well.

The DSG is one of the mose unreliable transmission out there. They had so many problems with it in there VW, skoda,seat. Bmw zf are the best ones.

Avi somlo you couldn’t be more wrong. I have the data. Consumer Reports is spot on. It is real life not based on monetary gains. You are telling fairy tales. Stop your gibberish

@@wilhelmthecarpenter3382 really??? You know that they don't sell skoda and seat in North America right.. So were do you get your data from? Where i come from Israel every one knows that the DSG is the worst transmission that VW group has ever made. It's so bad that after they fix them they had to give an extra 5 year warranty just for the transmission.

Bottom line is German cars are only good under warranty and on lease

Don’t skip the video

@@SamCarLegion I went back to beginning of the video to look closely so I wouldn't miss it, thank you 👍

Yep.. They lie on their numbers.. They put out lower numbers than what it's really packing..

Thank you

@@SamCarLegion no problem mate..Love From South Africa 🇿🇦🙌 I like that fact that u use cars that accessible us to or sum car that sum of us could own or afford..I can't relate to other channels were that use cars like Ferraris or Lemboghini's..cars that are not accessible too many of us...idk if I'm making sense 😂

I can tell you that a dude wanted to race me in his TLX Type S, I was driving the G70 3.3t. At around 70 km/h his nose was at my rear bumper.

Add the CT5-V, too.

It’s not the sport mode that doesn’t have agression it’s the launch control……In sport mode it moves but the launch control is as it doesn’t build boost

@@Tsand4 but that's what I'm saying the lack of not just boost but power is deliberately tuned in by the manufacturer the N/A models do the same thing.. if u apply brake and gas it pulls the throttle input.. so for those who want abit more kick there should be a button to tell the ECM we want all u got.. the flip side is shorten drive train life.. thus my agreement i would take the extra performance in sacrifice for abit of longevity

@@joebrown9621 I agree I’d take a crazy aggressive launch control all day. There is a work around in the g70/stinger tho which is the parking brake launch. It builds boost on launch n moves out. But only people in the g70/stinger community know about/know how to do it.

The Genesis is lighter and has more hp. The issue is, it's rear wheel drive. The Audi is AWD so although it's heavier, it puts power to all of the wheels.

That’s the current gen S4. It’s a B9 S4, that’s the newest gen you can get.

Same spec bud

I agree with you

@@kirkbarnes7097 He is sleeping off the line lol...

Once I saw it was the guy Sam driving a G 70 I knew it was a rap. He legit has The shittiest reaction times ever I don’t think he’s ever Got off the line 1st

Power drops off. Shift earlier and it's faster

The driver is trash lol and even with the trash driver the G 70 still pulled a couple wins

That transmission is completely incompatible with a RWD car. The 8 speed DCT was built for FWD and FWD based AWD setups only. No way to convert it. They would have to build an entirely new transmission and they’ve already said that isn’t happening. Not unless they build an M or AMG fighter

@@lttsr the 8 sp in the g70/stinger is really good this idiot who was driving was just talkin out his ass because he sucks at driving had to find an excuse. The gears are not far apart there actually really short gears n it shifts really quick. It’s not as quick as bmw zf 8 sp but the zf 8 sp in s4 is not on that level either.

@@Tsand4 Tim: What shift points do you use?

@@SlipAngleG70 I let the computer shift but I keep hearing if you shift before 6k that it pulls even harder stays in the power and. I have not tried it yet tho.

The M340i is winning that too

Acura and Infiniti are junk

@@ebonix33 dude the accord is faster than the acura, how embarrassing

@@ebonix33 Genesis is junk as well...which is why no one buys them

@@ryanl1782 not junk but..not as good as Benz BMW or audi....like I'm not spending German money to get a Hyundai 😅

That would definitely be cool. For now the best we can do is get a tune and an exhaust and push close to 400 hp hopefully 🙏

@@davidhoopes6863 and most likely blow the internals and transmission 😂

@@Ghostblaze1 I’ve been told that you can tune it up to around 400 without any issue but that’s just what I’ve heard you might be correct lmao

@@davidhoopes6863 yeah I wouldn’t trust that LOL

correct, the TLX Type S beat the Audi S4 (which beat the G70 and ~tied a C43)

@@TheBreakfastLover where did you see that ?

@@vroomgc RedlineReview

@@TheBreakfastLover Ya I saw that half ass 3 second race. So the Audi s4 is rated 0-60 low 4's and the type S is rated by your redline guy at high 4's. So lets wait for a real race ...

@@vroomgc high 4's *with an extra passenger

CT5 V coming in August

@@SamCarLegion not the Blackwing…just the regular V!

the 2.0L was like that, not the 3.3L. AudiS4 on paper by C & D /Motor trend is 12.8 sec car & g70 is atime 13 sec car. So regardless of drivers, he results are accurate

It got noticeably slower. Thanks for validating what I saw.

@@opaextreme9282 I don’t think he’s disputing the result.

Because he can not drive for shit for starters lol

yeah not a chance, I have a 2018 S4 and the thing can hit 300km pretty easily in under 25 seconds or so

Correct. The Koreans have much higher top end.

The TLZ Type S is slow!

There are vids out there… thx loses every time… heavy and slow.. but nice looking car for show…

Only due to launch control….launch taken out of equation were neck n neck even with the trash g70 driver lol