FYI - Reversing second-row seats requires customer modification in US market. (Applies to US Market) See Carnival forums for details.

i was a car salesman for a time, without fail people would come in and say "I want something roomy and practical and with lots of seats and cargo space that's comfortable but still decent on gas", and when I'd say "well sounds like you want a van" they'd go "NAH I DON'T WANNA BE A 'VAN PERSON'", and to myself I'm just like you're already a van person you're just in denial.

Also, you called it the "Kia Caravan" in the final thoughts. Can't tell if that was a joke or a slip up. Either way, it was funny

The fact that you can flip the second row seats around and make that space into a living room is so cool to me

I'm starting to think Gloss Black is a strategic move to make cars immediately unappealing once owned so that you'll want to lease/trade in as soon as possible.

I’d rather watch savagegeese review a minivan than any other channel review a new Lamborghini or Porsche.

My parents just installed one of the dog cages to keep me out of the adult areas of the used ups truck they bought. I got a bowl of water now and then and they threw goldfish thru the cage openings at times. I turned out fine

I’ve been binge watching these reviews despite no plans of buying a new car

Minivans get a bad rep. They’re literally the most useful types of cars other than full sized cargo vans. But those get a bad rep for being predator vehicles. I get a feeling it’s the big Truck lobby putting those stories out

I don't know what was funnier the overlay of Russell Crowe from unhinged when Jack was driving or the two women trying to buckle C-3PO into the car seat from the Kia b-roll footage

Your review of the 2016 Kia Sedona five years ago made me purchase my first ever minivan and first ever Kia. Would never have looked at a Korean car before. Five years later it’s been the most reliable car I’ve ever owned, including my Toyota and Acura. Great features and value. I’ve seen the light. No longer a Korean car hater.

Favorite line of the review: "If you're in a minivan you've got nothing to live for and nothing to lose.." :D

pretty surprised on the lack of cupholders/bottleholder space, seeing as much of its life may be in the starbucks drive thru

Kia is working with big vinyl to integrate as much piano black plastic in all its models as possible. The company makes big kickbacks in the form of Arby's cash from certified vinyl wrap shops every time a kia's interior is wrapped.

I'm glad I'm not only person who saw the cinematic masterpiece that was Unhinged

I've learned over the years that Mark really hates piano black plastic.

I have zero interest in that segment, nor in the kia brand, but your videos are such a treat. Insightful, humorous, very well structured, sound is perfect, video is beyond professional quality, overall editing is perfect. And like every single time, your laughs are communicative. Keep going, I'll keep watching.

Ok...I've been resisting this for a long time since I'm getting old af and am a newly minted grandpa, but you've convinced me. I'll watch Unhinged tonight.

This car as a plug-in hybrid, a dream car to keep for years.

Great review as usual by the SG team but a few corrections as I've owned my '22 Carnival SX for about 8,000 miles so far. 1) No, you actually can't reverse the middle row in the US. There may be a way to do this by modifying one of the latches, though it wasn't approved for our market for some reason. 2) MPG is better than rated and about on par with the Odyssey and Pacifica....I've done a couple of 2,000 mile road trips so far and averaged anywhere from 28.2 - 33 mpg per tank so not too bad. 3) The Carnival's dimensions are different than the other vans i.e. significantly higher ground clearance than the Odyssey (6.8in vs. 4.5in, which is terrible). Also the Carnival is a couple inches shorter yet still has the most cabin room, though the 3rd row legroom is a little less than the others. LAST: the first thing I did after buying was to debadge. The name is just plain dumb.

When my kids were younger, I had a mini-van as a company car. The sliding doors are great - the kids can get in and out on their own and you never have to worry about them dinging up the car next to you. Think of it as a public service

Every time I hear "MPV" I can't help but think of the poverty spec shitbox Mazda minivan from my childhood -- silver with grey everything interior. The Carnival is a luxury spaceship by comparison. So many good memories made in that MPV. I'm happy the kids in 2021 minivans have it even better than I did :)

Chrysler will probably trademark the name "Semen Demon" when they decide to throw the Hellcat engine into the Pacifica.

"This is not a seamon demon Jack." - Mark 2021.

The way Jack cackles everytime he makes that left turn at the T Intersection gets me every time!!!

the look on Jack's face when you said "fickle" was great.

You got a loud chuckle out of me with the title: Spawn lounge. Fantastic.

I've only owned one minivan in many years of driving. It was a Mazda "MPV" from the late 80's, early 90's. The only minivan at the time that offered AWD. I learned to love that vehicle when I was able to extract it from a deep, snow covered ditch on an isolated logging road in the Washington Cascades. Without the AWD, I think my wife and I would never have made it back to civilization. In subsequent years I wondered why automakers failed for years to offer AWD in the minivan category. No question that the Carnival is a major step up from the last generation Sedona. However, the absence of any form of AWD and a hybrid powertrain available on versions of both the Pacifica and the Pacifica will, I think, prevent the KIA from climbing out of fourth place in the four horse race that makes up the tiny category of minivans in the US market.

KIA has been impressing me lately. The Telluride especially. Boogers everywhere though!! And that lounge seating looks amazing. Not sure it's a "gimmick". Teens everywhere who are forced to be humiliated for being seen in a minivan will love that feature.

This new КИ logo is hilarious

2020 pacifica owner here. I wish this exterior is on the AWD Pacifica. It makes the perfect MPV.

I gave a thumbs up just for the video title 😂 Already more entertaining than most videos before I even start watching.

"This is not a semen demon Jack. This is a pure hauler."

Never would I have expected the sentence "This is not a semen demon, Jack" to have been said here of all places but it was here and it was appreciated.

Love hearing you rant about piano black in every review, haha best channel on you tube. Wishing you guys the best!

OMG that title is so good... gave me a chuckle before I even started the video

Really digging this. Great review

You dont know how long i have been waiting for this and the santa cruz

Great review, your channel is so underated. Subscribed and following now, keep it up.

Great review, you nailed key points. I leased a LX +, it’s utterly fantastic. I cross shopped the other players, I’m normally a “honda guy”, but the price, styling, and rear space usability was better for me. I brought my bicycles to each brands dealership to see how the 61cm road bike fits…. Kia won. I’m not sure of resale of Kia’s, but it’s a lease with warranty past my lease return date (unlike honda/Toyota unless u buy extended). Fuel mileage is way better than the F-150 it replaces, and I just keep a microfibre cloth in the door panel to wipe up the gloss black surfaces…. manufacturers quit the gloss black nonsense!!! Zero buyers remorse here. When you acknowledge the fact you need a van, make sure you check this one out. I was surprised. Anyway great review guys, your honesty is what gives u proper credibility amongst buyers!

I love the complaint about fuel mileage when the driver leaves every stop sign squealing tyres with his foot to the floor. Epic!

Saw one in person the other day. I actually wouldn't mind buying this for the family

I hope I'm not the only one appreciating how great the soundtrack on this video is.

Love that they even have the Unhinged movie soundtrack playing on the infotainment during the test drive

Been waiting for this one 😁

where did i take a wrong turn in life to hear the word 'semen demon' uttered in a car review

That intro music reminded me of my childhood so I subscribed.

Just had one of these as a rental. I was very surprised with the power. Transmission was rather lazy, but responded pretty well in manual mode. Overall good interior and pretty comfortable. I definitely had a stripper model, so didn't get to try out lots of fun features. It drove more car like than I would expect, but I didn't like how little feel the steering had. I had a hard time keeping it just straight without any wandering. The lane keep assist would drive in the lane for you pretty well though. The steering was my only major gripe. I really like having sliding back doors. Made fitting in tight spaces and still being able to use them so much easier. Overall a solid vehicle. Definitely makes more sense than a lot of SUV options.

Mmmm yes, another addition to the mini van series 🤤🤤🤤

Some of these minivans look actually good, why would anybody pick a cuckover over this is beyond me.

I think the exterior design is great honestly.. If I had to have a van, this one looks really good. The interior not bad either despite the piano black.. I'd say overall solid effort from Kia on this! Wish everyone would keep the NA V6's ...

I don't see how this will make me change my mind about my 2000 E39 wagon with its m54 engine that is fast, smooth and pretty good on gas 24.2mpg on average. Burns no oil, blows no smoke, loses no water. If only it was paired with the ZF 8 speed automatic. More than anything, transmissions have improved the most in the last 10 years.

Only 2 things I don't love on the 2024 Carnival. 1. The C pillar blocks a lot. 2. The back turn signal are down almost under the bumper. It can be dangerous if you are bumper to bumper and want to changes lanes OR with a trailer and some lights don't work well etc.. OR when you did 14 minutes on a snowy highway and the backlights are hidden OR a 10 wheelers doesnt look that low which is understandable! Other than that, the V6 and transmission is good on "normal or sport" mode. Super comfy. (especially with 17 inch rims)

Love the dig at the end of the marketing spin doctor 🤣

Bought one off these a couple months ago. SX without the prestige pack. Replaced a 2016 Sedona. I’m pretty sure the American market carnivals cannot turn the second row seats around. That feature is conspicuously absent in the American market literature. I spent an afternoon trying to do it and couldn’t. It is WAY better to drive than the old Sedona. The Sedona had some jiggles in the body structure especially over broken pavement. The carnival is totally solid. It’s a lot lighter on its feet, eerily quiet and a lot perkier than the old Sedona even though it still isn’t going to win any drag races. It has noticeably more cargo space than the old one too. But it’s not perfect. They moved the button for the sliding doors from the overhead console to left of the steering wheel. That was pretty dumb. The Sedona has nowhere to put your sunglasses. The carnival doesn’t either. The Sedona had a lot of glossy black plastic. The carnival has more. The Sedona had a dedicated knob to control the temperature in the back. The carnival doesn’t. The Sedona had two glove boxes. The carnival has one and it’s pretty small. You have to go all the way up to the prestige to get a self dimming rear view mirror. Rain sensing wipers are not available. The tail gate on both will open itself up if you have the key and stand behind it but you have to stand there way too long while it beeps and beeps and beeps and finally opens. It has auto high beams but you have to turn them on every time; thus making them not automatic. The black wheels look stupid and they’re impossible to keep clean. You have to provide your own hot spot for the rear seat entertainment system. The wireless phone charger isn’t quite big enough to fit an iPhone 11 max with a case on it. These are all first world problems though. Over all it is a fantastic van and so was my old Sedona.

i drove my moms old sienna in my college days. Honestly, the best car I've owned to date.

Got to get this for my wife so she can take our five strangely multiracial kids to soccer practice, school and karate.

Regarding the piano black... I checked out the Sedona 2 years ago when I was car shopping. It was nice enough, but I had to pass because there were only 2 interior colors available: light grey, and light beige. For a minivan. I don't think Kia fully understands that minivans in the US are primarily used as kid-haulers.

The glossy material is the best material to clean. All you need is a baby wipe and it'll be so easy to be cleaned.

I HAVE OWNED 4 MINIVANS, LOVED ALL OF THEM!

I ABSOLUTELY love the SUV approach to this minivan. I have 0 shame in being a van person or minivan person. but it does look good and vans are so good. I like this thing a lot but I also love the pacifica. I can't afford either but still.

Jamming "Rage and Fury" as you do your best Daddy Bear Russell Crowe impression >>>

Until Minivans go full EV, I'm sticking with my tried and true 2013 Toyota Sienna with its awesome 3.5L V6. VVT-i just kicked in Yo!

You can drive this from Tallahassee to Burlington and not need a hotel.

Great review! Been waiting for this for a while - the exterior is without a doubt the best looking in the minivan segment, but I agree that the interior looks sleak, but isn't practical. I've seen a ton of these on the roads already though, can't wait to review one myself!

Clicking for the title. Spawn Lounge. This will forever be my description for every minivan now. Lol the marketing dude at the end.

It looks so usable for a family! Seriously don't understand how they don't have wraps for the gloss black by now, like dbrand style stuff. But for a family it's wayy better than dreary SUVs

When it comes to minivans, once you know, you know. My wife and I (with 3 kids) shopped around all the three row SUVs because mostly I was reluctant to buy a minivan. We also tried a lot of 2-Row SUVs just for shits and giggles. Let me tell you this. You get a 3-Row SUV only if you fucking hate the child who has to sit back there. Unless you're getting some massive vehicle with a somewhat useable 3rd row like an escalade or that new wagoneer, forget about it. Even then, the minivan will still be more convenient in every possible way, and doesn't cost 100k. Anyway, once we test drove the car we ended up buying (A Sedona) it was obvious the absolute second you sat down in it that it is the SUPERIOR option for comfort, convenience, and utility. It's like an immediate realization that choosing anything else would be downright stupid. Then the day to day living with it became so clear. Getting groceries? Huge storage well in the back. Hauling large objects? Fold the seats down, now you have a truck. Getting drywall? It fits. Going on a road trip? There is no better option, period. Transporting children to school/daycare... again, the sliding doors and large space make it 1000x better than any other vehicle on the road, especially when it comes to car seats, and still having room for backpacks and all the other junk kids accumulate. Being able to stand in the doorway and mess with seatbelts, put shoes back on, or do any of the other million things you have to do to a child getting into/out of a car...again with the sliders it's amazing. Even though it's a large vehicle, compared to some compact car it still works better in parking spots and other tight spaces specifically because of those sliders! I look at these dads at daycare pick-up cramming their kids into a Civic Si, or even like a Rav 4 and (knowing that used to be me) I sympathize with them greatly. Literally everything you do in a vehicle that isn't just for fun or maybe towing a trailer or hauling gravel/dirt is better in a minivan...and guess what? 95% of the time your vehicle is an appliance anyway, so why not get the appliance that improves every aspect of your day-to-day living in a truly meaningful way? As long as I am driving kids around, I will never NOT drive a minivan. Even if this Sedona blows up tomorrow, I'll be getting another minivan. Obviously this may not apply to single people who are only driving themselves around, but to anyone with a family considering an SUV and not thinking about a minivan because of all the cliché reasons... just do yourself a favor and test drive a Carnival, a Sienna, an Odyssey or whatever else. Unless you're completely obstinate, you'll know immediately what all other minivan drivers already know.

This car is extremely popular in Asia, it's 3/4 of a Toyota Alphard for like 1/2 the price

Car makers don’t realize that AWD is a necessity for most family haulers. California is one of the largest car markets in the world, and any snowy destination here requires chains or AWD. It only took one time being on the side of the road struggling with chains while my wife and two kids screamed at me about being cold, hungry, and having to go to the bathroom, to make me say “F**KING NEVER AGAIN!”. It’s dumb you can’t just have snow tires but it’s the reality.

Looks like a nice minivan overall. I like the new Carnival name. Not that I hated "Sedona" before. Best styling in its class. They really screwed up not incorporating door cupholders and using gloss black plastics though. Such bizarrely simple oversights. The ability to face 2nd-row seats rearward will be great for kids and teens on long trips. More like sitting in a living room than in a car. No doubt it'll be a value leader over Sienna and Odyssey.

I agree about unhinged. Fantastic! And I do say this vehicle Def changes things for some of the people that don't want a minivan because of the "its a van" but could actually use one. This is the answer. And the van people would buy this for the style. They're grabbing a huge market

Lexus will deliver us from the glossy black plastic plague. It is the true messiah.

We still call minivans MPV here in Asia, and oh boy it's also everywhere especially in SE Asia where people like to breed

My take is I would possibly do a faux carbon fiber overhaul of most if not all of the interior gloss black. Idk. I’d have to see how it would play with the other colors and materials. But to me the rest of the vehicle is worth it, and I’m open to modding most any of my own car’s interiors. I would definitely want to overhaul it somehow, even if it’s a matte black wrap or something. Reliability used to be an issue to me, but when I look at the answer to that (sienna), the ugliness of the front fascia and one of the heaviest in class having only a 4banger, I’m not sold on that. I’ll take ample power with acceptable mpg over underpowered with better mpgs. To bandaid it they have a great warranty, and the Sedona that it replaces I have heard nothing but good reports of reliability, but even if it has some issues it’s likely covered under warranty. Now people talk about the Pacifica being best but it’s just not going to be reliable, even though it has awd, power and looks. It’s made by dodge. Enough said. So out of all options, KIA is the sweet spot for me. If they went how Chrysler did and put electric motors on the same v6 for hybrid fuel efficiency but not sacrificing power and kept the crazy good warranty? It would probably sell like a telluride. Good vid!

The outro with all that piano black got me

6:13, about sums it up for me! Minivan life.

I'd love to see them throw in the 3.3T from the Stinger and AWD.

They need to have a hybrid version

9:15 fast cornering, tire squealing, plus Mark and Jack both giggling? now that's hilarious LOOL

Gotta love that SG T-shirt

I have no idea why I just watched 12 minutes and 49 seconds on this car. Thumbs up.

Two reasons why I think the piano gloss black trim has been so prevalent is because customers associate it with a classy, higher end, product/feel, in the same way wood/faux wood trim was in the past, and because "Shiny!"

That grey shirt looks great. I'd buy multiple if they were for sale

The styling is amazing. I just kinda wish it had citron ds levels of interior comfort

I like the reverse seats in the van. I wish the driver's passenger seats up front swiveled around for more space.

Great review, I watched it when it came out, then I thought it has same lamda 3.3l and watched again today as I was researching smart stream 3.5l NA engine. I think you missed the opportunity to talk about smart stream 3.5l here though, it has port and direct injection, supposed to have better fuel economy than lamda 3.8l while making same power.

Good looking vehicle. I wonder if the lower trims have less of the piano black.

Reinvented the Ford Flex

Telluride owner here, great review. I was curious… FWIW, the Telluride has some gloss black on the interior. I covered mine with PPF. 😆

Father of 3 kids under 8 here. Currently driving a 2014 Odyssey. This Kia looks great. Cargo room is on par with the other competitors, but the fuel economy is a deal breaker. I'd rather get good mileage while hustling my brood around town rather than looking more stylish. My next purchase will probably be the Sienna. Oh, and my wife drives a 2021 Telluride and she loves it.

looooooool "you're gonna fuckin find out" clip killed me

“This is not a seamen demon Jack.” Best quote for a minivan review ever.

The US version can't have all second row flip around but the middle seat. They install a plastic stopper in the track to prevent that. There is KZfaq video of people figure it out and remove them so it can be done.

I love the shmedium Obsessed Garage T.

I love this car !

Me religiously watching Savagegeese videos. "Man he really hates black plastic, I doubt he could ever rip on a vehicle harder than the last one with black plastic." Me watching the Kia Carnival review. "Welp looks like I was wrong, lol".

Note that the lower trim models (like my LX) have NO glossy plastic and no capacitive touch, it's knobs instead in the middle. It's great. Also worth noting is that it wasn't just designed to be "different" because people hate minivans, like you mentioned. It was designed to *look* *like* an SUV. And it does. Hell, my family has told me they thought it was before they saw the doors move and it's the only reasons my wife actually wanted it. She fucking hates minivans (like everyone else)

"You are not going to drive this like a monkey." ...and the back middle shoulder stamp falls down right on cue. Brilliant!

No idea why I'm excited to watch a van video