you got that right!! But were all comparing top technology to top technology because thats the name of the game now!

My first sled was a 1981 El Tigre

Thanks Nick! That trail didnt seem that bumpy on camera but it was pretty nasty!

as in fun you mean carrying skis and playful?

@@JESSEJAMES322 I really liked the playfulness ditch banging, how the tracks work like a motocross bike. One of the best parts of my Assault is the stand up riding position and ability to body the sled where you want it, I get that in spades with the Lynx. I never thought I'd be interested in a BRP product, but this is amazing.

@@sethalos I feel that the Polaris matrix chassis gives me a dirtbike riding feel but I don’t like on the lynx how wide my legs have to be

@@djg1028 I don't really have that problem to be honest, I find it easy to maneuver on the seat myself without nailing the panels. Having said that though, I tend to move around allot and stand, so it wasn't an issue for me. Waiting on the XCR announcement to see who gets my sled money for next year. :)

Because my Assault didn't arrive yet I ended up on a Lynx Rave. Agree with you. Cancelling my Assault and maybe a Lynx Xterrain to go with Rave. That's after 11 Polarises. I expected not to like the ergos, handing and it's good. The Canadian guys--Snowtrax I think--who frankly love Polarises--he recanted and said Rave is funnest sled yet. I expected it to be too harsh--Opposite. My Asault with custom $3200 fullHygear shocks/springs was close, but not better.

I agree on that i would like to now try back to back. I think id feel the same. would dislike both ergos and would like the lynx better due to the shock package. I think they did a great job with that honestly. Ski-Doo should step up there game in that department and give the Ski-Doo's some solid ( i dont mean dont move) shocks!

agreed! They did a great job with it!

Thank you! Those are ROX SPEED FX Gauntlets!

im sure if i worked with it some i can get it to act how i want. For sure stiffer with clickers, pull limiter etc but it would still be the same ergos. that you cant change obviously and that is a deal breaker for me.

i think you will be much happier on an assault over the Lynx!

😂😂 dude doesn’t know anything

as stated the suspension works good. That trail was actually really beat up but you could not tell at all in the video.

The gen 4/ Lynx are heavy in the front. Its known in the industry. As far as overall weight i do not know the figures on that

i will be but not there! hope they get dumped on so i can get up there next weekend!

yes i do not know why they havent changed it. blows my mind!

I think because some of us like the different style ergos , I’ve tried various Polaris and feel the same way you feel on a doo but that’s what makes it nice there not all the same

hahahahahahahahah

I second that :-)

LOVED the Rev. That was one of my favorite sleds. The XP/XS/GEN4 went backwards in evolution if you ask me. Not sure what the throught process was on that but was not the right move for me

No kidding, I enjoyed the xp/xs for simple trail riding, but didn't enjoy it to much if I was gonna be riding more aggressively. But the gen 4 only sled I enjoyed was the expedition SE just for hauling things and the reliability of the ace engines. So I switched to a axys 850 and felt more like an aggressive style sled love it

And like you said getting toe holds and bringing them Back, I did that with the snow cross toe holds it was a bit better but the panels are so vertical that it wasn't that great. It kept me in a better position but man that thing was so uncomfortable, and the brakes would fade half the cross country race corner to corner. I know that's been updated, but I has having that problem all they way back to the xp chassis days, never had that problem with the rev or the axys. And the seat I had to shave flat, every bump I hit that thing would push me forward right to the bars. And during that one year of races I had to change out the tunnel protector like 3 or 4 times, worst tunnel profile I've worked with.

i thought it was honest. Soem think otherwise but whatever. Cant keep them all happy. and i think you are right i do not believe they changed much aside from some color

@@JESSEJAMES322 maybe I would like the lynx better in a GEN five chassis but won’t be able to know that for a couple years now.

nope. still the same shit

@@JESSEJAMES322 Yeah, I think they made the lynx mountain sleds in the GEN five chassis but the regular lynx 137 is still the old chassis. Also what’s really funny is skidoo gave the GEN five chassis to the renegade, the MXZ and the mountain sleds but for some unknown reason the backcountry 146 is still in the old chassis meanwhile the Polaris assault 146 is going huge places for 2023 and the back country doesn’t even compare.

clutch kit. big wheel kit. gearing. Reffer to my videos from last year with my VR1

@@JESSEJAMES322 ,thank you very much, your videos are fuckin awesome 👌, I'll try and find your videos on last year's, thanks again

i will also stick with mine!

always on the ball!!!! Love it!

the trail i rode on was not groomed. Cannott tell in the video at all because we just got a foot plus. these are both supposed to be "rough trail sleds" which is why the comparison. Regardless of coupled or not

Dudes basically a polaris ambassador he can't dare give another manufacturer sled credit they will drop him like a bad habit. Listen to the throttle, sounded like he was more consistent on the throttle on thr lynx then the poo. He felt comfortable enough to hold the pin dropped on the lynx, his hand was on and off the throttle on the laris. Ergonomics shmergonomics. He just can't talk bad about his sponsor

Gotta stay with what you love! im excited to make my Boost better then my XCR!

on the lynx it was left alone. and i know what youll say "adjust it and it will be better" which i said that in the video. I said if i spent time adjusting id get it to feel better but the ergos you cant change.

there is minimal difference. And when i mean minimal i mean pretty much not even there! Many people thing is a HUGE differnece and its not at all

No kidding WHAT disappointed you the most......just curious

doesnt matter what engine they come out with. I hate the ergos so much that i will not like the sled

I totally agree....Mach Z ....same position as lynx

@@mikemyers1516 electric thottle going around the corner...you have to be so careful with the flipper...not like a real thottle by wire...

yea they arent the best cockpit which is a shame really. suspesnion works well for bumps. not so much for turning

@@JESSEJAMES322 Thanks for the reply! do you ever have any engine issues with the patriot? I know you've had a couple. I have another year to wait anyway so maybe the lynx gen5 will come out. regardless I think assault or lynx are top of the line right now. would love to test ride a lynx one day but we will see!

ive had 19-23 and never had one even cough on me and i beat the hell out of them!

@@JESSEJAMES322 Heck yeah thanks for the input man! Can't wait to see what I decide. the cool part is that you're not stuck with the sled forever, I plan on trying different ones over the years. I'm late the sled party lol.

the Matryx have different panels. makes it much better

yes, I'm 6'2 and have no issues on 23 xcr. gen 4 smashes my knees. Only reason I think I can't get a lynx yet. waiting for better ergo's.

im only 5'8 as well and it feels so awkward for me as well. I dont know why they havent changed it after all these years

yes it is! i just really dont like the ergos. think they are horrible

yes. my grandfather was a master builder of all. RC Planes. Boats. Train tables. Model houses etc. He took a V bottom hull, cut it in half. Built the whole center section out of wood and put all back together. but yes RC

Real cool 🤙🏻

Thank you!!

they need to make the body panels better and it would make sure a difference

yea i dont know why they havent changed it. and i agree i have done alot but even in factroy form id take the Matryx over the Lynx because the lynx/BRP is so uncomfortable to me

@@JESSEJAMES322 I ride mountain sleds, and I just sold my 22 Summit X because the ergos are terrible. Hate it. The RevXP was decent. I will be snowchecking a Poo RMK.. I hope Polaris never goes any more rider forward. They hit the sweet spot.

They absolutely have! I love the ergos on the matryx. WOuld be hard to top it really

@@JESSEJAMES322 Agree. Now if they would release a 4 stroke for the Titan. Then this life long Doo fan will be a Poo fan lol!

we will see on MONDAY!!!!!

the shocks are great. thats how all shocks need to feel and need to come from factory. We unfortunately get watered down versions because 99% of the peopel complain they're too stiff which results in manufacturers producing very soft sleds. But the Lynx works great i wont say that it doesnt. I just dont like the ergo's of the lynx/skidoo sleds and thats a huge deal for me! EIther way im glad you're loving your new ride and hope you get your hands on a new one!

Have a 17 Assault 800 and 21 Matryx Assault 850 for true crossover use and rode a preproduction 2023 Xtrerrain RE 300+ miles last week and it pains me to say this as a loyal Polaris guy but it crushes the Assaults. That skid and shock package is easily the best and most adjustable I've ever ridden. When dialed in it handles everything from minor trail chop to full blown g-outs very well while never leaving the line or kicking you. Very impressive. All the things I didn't like about the G4 Ski-Doo's this sled corrects. Much better clutching with far less engine braking, firm and much better slope to the seat, the ski's are as good as SLP Mohawks, the sled feels light and playful while the G4 backcountry feels heavy and cumbersome. It carves in powder with ease and sidehilling is virtually effortless. And if you are willing to stay active it is a very capable trail sled and feels much shorter than a 2" 146 because of the aggressively tipped up rail. The only trade off is the gauge as I love the 7S but that's not enough to stop me from moving to the Lynx. My 21 is on FB Marketplace and I'll likely be putting my $500 down on the Lynx soon. Just thought you might like to know as we appear to have similar goals.

@@philjessen2214 Ding! Same. Going to place my order for Xterrain literally now. Found a price of $18,160 with all fees and including 6% Michigan sales tax-cheaper than a 2023 Assault price with NO E/S from my dealer. Plus at the open house in my town last weekend, Lynx rep said they will only spring check the amount of sleds they can deliver-including spare parts in inventory. Let’s hope. In short: Lynx is not a SkiDoo. See Snow Trax video on the Rave and we know they love Polarises-Lynx gets his highest praise.

@@tomtraynor5384 My OTD was $18,358 on the Xterrain but MN gets us for 7.375% so we are at a very similar number before tax. All costs before tax is $16,980 for me. Every dealer I've discussed it with has indicated that they get a total allocation number of BRP products and when the allocations are done - no more orders are taken. I'm waiting for a really knowledgeable shock guy to call me back to see if he's had any success with turning around the Assault ride by revalving. My 21 is simply a foul handling sled. I'm about 190 lbs with gear and all clickers are at 1 and this thing is harsh as crap but then blows through the stroke when you do hit a g-out. I'm just not convinced that the IGX suspension geometry is correct. C-Motion skids on backcountry's are substantially better and the Xterrain is in a leaque all it's own. So even the Hygear shocks didn't do the trick? If I would have ridden my sled before buying it I would have walked away. I've put many miles on a 22 Switchback XC 850 and it's every bit as foul even with the QS3's. Seems the Polaris 128's and 137's are terribly undersprung and underdampened and the 146's are exactly the opposite. My seat is a board also and the cover was so slippery in powder that I put a Rox gripper seat cover on it with 1/2" extra padding which made it tolerable. Bottom line is the Axys seat was the best in the industry and the Matryx is one of the worst. So have you actually ridden an Xterrain?

@@philjessen2214 Have not ridden a Xterrain. My friend who was an Assault-head like us, is bought a Rave and has ridden a XT. He loves his Rave, his Assault is for sale and he is wanting that XT after riding. Same suspension. My hygear sure helped but second place. Also note I am 172 pounds dressed and it’s smooth as butter if you adjust it. Not all bliss: Rave tracks are rubbing on tunnel protectors, Lynx knows and a fix is coming.

Ive ridden them all. literally. Yes i love my polaris but it i loved the Lynx i wouldve said i love it but i didnt! Enjoy your ride and get some miles on!!

i think they are extremely similar in all ways to be honest. Seating position hasnt changed much in my opinion!

the weather was wicked. It was 50+ MPH winds and snow and super overcast.

thats how its supposed ot be

i didnt need too. even my all done up suspension on the XCR was not as good as the LYnx and i said that. its the sled its self i dont like. hate the ergos and everything about it

mine is not set up at all for his liking. what i like sled wise is NOTHING what he or most like

I am not a Polaris ambassador. I am Not paid by Polaris. I am not paid by anyone. I have no contract with anyone. I have no reason to swing more to one side. This was my opinion and it’s been my opinion of the Gen 4 and skidoo sleds for a bunch of years now hence why I switched to Polaris all by myself. I never tried to hide that we have worked on my suspension. I’ve documented every single step along the way. On top of all that I also said that this sled did feel great in the bumps. I said the shocks are top notch and I won’t say anything otherwise. I absolutely hate the ergonomics of It just like I did the Gen 4 that I owned. And don’t say I don’t wanna hear about ergonomics… if they’re not a big deal when why do manufacturers spend millions to change them and make the cockpit area skinner or more comfortable. It’s one of the biggest part of a sled.So no this wasn’t a “paid for” review. This was an honest opinion of the sled. And on top of all that… if I wanted the Polaris to seem like the better out of the box sled would I have told everyone e about all the suspension work I have done? No. So think before you post ridiculous comments trying to call me out. and know your facts

Oh Timmy, if you actually took time to watch the video, and listened to the points Jesse was making. You would’ve heard that he was on SkiDoo during his racing career. Look at every factory race team. Are they using stock skis? Do they dial in their shock settings? You’re trying to discredit him for dialing in his sled with what he likes and what he has been used to riding for years. Like He said, you can change setup until you are blue in the face, but do you know what doesn’t change? Ergonomics. I would assume you aren’t an aggressive rider if you think the ergonomics are a non-issue. The Skidoo/Lynx is inches wider in the footwells. If you don’t think that is an issue, again, you’re not understanding the importance of ergonomics and biomechanics. You could change every piece of these sleds to fit your liking- skis, track, suspension, seat, handle bars, etc… but you know what won’t change? Ergonomics. You’re discrediting your own comment by trying to leave out the one thing a rider can’t change. Assuming someone is making remarks for or against a product because they are being “paid” for them is the cheapest form of criticism. Do better.

if you listened i said the lynx suspension is how suspension needs to come from the factory but they dont turn for shit. thje brakes on the lynx suck because they are drive shaft mounted brakes not jackshaft mounted. power i agree the e tecs are better. as for being huge and bulky that would be the lynx. the ergo's are absolute garbage on them. no knee room. so wide at the feet. but everyone has their own opinion so its all good!

@@JESSEJAMES322 I guess I’m talking about the 24’s which are the radian 2 platform. The legroom and plastic room is a ton more, the power on Polaris is still the biggest let down to me. Their boost feels like the 850 Stock Should feel ( I believe it’s around 15 more hp.) brakes i guess I don’t really notice as you only Ride them a little when driving fast, you don’t slam On them all the time. I didn’t notice and brake fading on the 24’s we tested this last late winter/spring. Either way, ya everyone has their opinion.

Again I completely disagree. The boost never stops pulling. Down low they are very similar. But anytime you get some room they go. On top of that there was a lot left on the table in the clutching department for the boosts. I good clutch kit snd It was a completely different sled

@@JESSEJAMES322 I have a ton of time on a boost as my brother has a 23 assault boost and i ordered a 24 xterrain but current sled is a 23 rave. My sled is a 137 with 1.6 and 102 studs. His is a 146 with 1.25 ice ripper. My sled absolutely destroys his from a dead stop or a roll… it isn’t even close. Of course I have more top end also so he can’t catch me there either. In mountains the turbo sleds are great as you don’t lose any power with altitude but buying these turbo sleds for normal riding is a waste.. 10-12 horsepower is what you are actually getting atleast on dynos from places that are checking and that isn’t worth it. The brakes are the same on gen 5 skidoos I believe? Anyways to each their own. Not gonna argue anymore. It’s your opinion, cheers🍻

id have to disagree but everyone has opinions!