Already has a recall for the Nissan

​@@josefermalino461 what recall?

my 2016 already had an engine rebuild at 119K, paint is fading hard on the roof, (yes I waxed it 4 times a year). tail gate shock is broken, plastic trim inside the sunroof fell off... Yea, so I am not real happy with my Taco. Oh and Toyota corp said no help.... So, pretty much one of the worst vehicles I have ever owned. Major bummer. I got it for the reliability and it sucks. Oh and the gas mileage isn't even close to what they advertise. sorry guys. I wanted to love it, but can't wait to get a new truck when I get the money...

@@perrydavies3592😂😂😂

What are your thoughts on it now?

How so? I owe one and I love it. First truck I’ve owned

@@Rigo9 he wasn't saying that's a negative.

@@johnnyreb9398 I know, I meant as in I would like to know how. When it comes to vehicles I just mess around with the basics and this being my first truck I’d like to know

@@Rigo9 think miniature titan. Full box frame like titan and f150. And ram :)

@@bjornironsides6474 the ranger and colorado/canyon also have fully box high strength steel frames

That’s the only reason I picked the Tacoma over the Frontier. 6speed MT and I’m jumping to Nissan.

Same here! Patiently waiting.

Ill wait, they need to have as toyota still keep it.

Agreed.. for off-roading I’ve always found a manual to be the best

@@Thelos7878it’s a fake manual though right?

After moding your pro4x you still have a couple thausands left over and a better truck than a 🌮

See you got the right idea.

After you are done I would LOVE to see that one put up against the almighty Toyota.

I will point out a bad design you will contend with that is better on toyota and pretty much any other truck I've looked at and that's upper control arm placement. For some reason niSSan didn't center the coil bucket in the upper control arm so when lifted the factory control arm bangs down on the coil bucket so you have to get aftermarket upper control arms I have alldogs offroad but there's spc too but something else I don't know if you have checked out that would be up your alley since it seems like you might have the funds for modding go look up the titan swap for the frontier I think alldogs offroad already did it on the gen 3 frontier should be a video. If you haven't seen anything on that yet it's where they take a titan front end and put it on the frontier and give it crazy travel. I believe the kit pretty much includes what I told you about and what you were talking about but I think it runs $1700-3000 not sure haven't looked lately.

Yes, the parts were ordered from alldogs offroad. With radflow coils and shocks!

I agree, but sometimes it's hard to even get the trucks they have in the video

I agree. The Fox shocks on the Pro model will dominate Bilstein basics anyday

The pro is an off-road, just with astheruc differences and a lift

I dont agree, they are comparing the top of the line frontier vs the top off the line tacoma so i think thats a great comparison. They are talking about 10k diference BUT only because tje frontier is the king cab, if it was the crew cab the diference in $ will be much much smaller and if that was the case ill choose the Tacoma any day

I feel like the TRD off road is a direct comparison to the pro4x. If frontier came out with a pro-4x nismo it’d be a direct comparison to the TRd pro.

Thanks! 👍

Yep got to say ive been looking for a video comparing this and this is the first review I found with this😊

But would the Nissan last and hold its value as long as the Toyota? I don’t think so.

@@galindojuan1 yes, Nissan trucks last. Yes, it will hold value. Also why is the last factor such a big deal for you? What person buys a new truck and immediately thinks about it’s resale value 😂😂

@@chrisbreezy2676 can you please tell me where I said I’m going to sale it right off the bat.

That’s gross

Well, sure it is. The Tacoma gonna last so much longer

@@anthem4333 last longer? The frame rotting is a concern! And longevity for the Nissan is certainly of no concern. They are both reliable trucks.

@@steve8803 the frame rotting WAS a concern, not anymore. And let’s not act like Nissans automatic trannies are any good (except the Allison in the Titan).

@@anthem4333 it still is a concern according to The Car Care Nut. Let's not act like the auto tranny in the Tacoma is very pleasant, always hunting. Sluggish. I honestly believe both trucks are the most reliable in the segment. Obviously neither are perfect. Personally I would get the pro4x over the TRD pro because it's significantly cheaper in my country.

@@anthem4333 That's pure bias and conjecture. See the video of Brian Murphy who drove his Frontier a MILLION miles doing delivery work in Chicago.

I was thinking the same thing. Buy the SR5 and upgrade the suspension, etc yourself and save $$$

@@cnoyes72 or you could just get the better over all truck in the first place and put decent suspension and lockers on the niSSan.

Buy a TRD offroad instead of the pro. It has all the tech the pro has just with bilstein shocks. Buy the factory 2 inch lift. All under 45k

@@johnnyreb9398 Yeah, that would be the Ranger. LOL

I would spend and did spend the extra $10,000 to have peace of mind of reliability. Nissan is not known for reliability at all. Hell they have been known to have one of the worst transmissions.

full disclosure, I had to have my engine rebuilt on my 2016 tacoma at 119K miles.... yea.... The dealership told me how rare it was, even though they had several 3rd gens up on the lifts getting major repairs. I think toyota slipped in the quality control and hides major problems... took 3 months for a rebuild, over $3200 in car rental fees....

Craw control is literally that. It's only jerky on the lowest setting in a flat surface, but then again, it's not meant to be used in flat surface.

Glad you enjoyed it!

IMO it's just a powertrain upgrade away from being near perfect.

@@OverlandOrange I understand that buddy but in 2004 I bought a Ford Expedition NBX model which was the off-road package of that year. I sold it to a friend three years ago and he still has it with 250,000 miles on it. It runs like a top and has never needed any repairs other than a left rear axle. Original starter alternator and everything else under the hood. Toyotas are not the only reliable vehicles on the road.

@@OverlandOrange I don’t think it was luck. The 5.4L 2V motor was awesome and the vehicle was garage kept with religious oil changes and regular maintenance.

I have a 21 TRD off road, with the TRD lift and a standard transmission. Saved $8k vs buying the pro and has all the same tech and upgraded suspension. I’ll take that manual transmission all day everyday vs the frontier for the same cost.

I mean many people rather have older and simple its a offroad truck or truck per say its not suppose to be fancy just get a pavement princess if thats what you want.

1st gear is for rock only but hard

Also no demonstration on pro

From what I see the pro4x is just a TRD off road down to the Bilstein 4600's so comparing it to a TRD pro (especially price) seems ridiculous.

well I don't think it was ever meant to sound good.

Moreover...the crawl control system in the Tacoma is PROVEN RELIABLE

pretty much what i said too lol.

Agree, more equal comparison, both have bilstein shocks and stock suspension height.

of course you would say that when you bought one. gotta justify it somehow

I’ve got that exact truck ordered and selling my 2020 pro with 43k miles. Love these trucks.

I was thinking the same. Price of extended vs crew cab isn’t apple to apple. The technical differences seem fair enough.

came here to say this

Trd pro skid plate is boron steel

@@ponolovefarms3926 how much?

Agree, the trail eddition seems like the sweet spot for the Tacoma. Plus it looks great too.

Taco transmissions are garbage and the truck is made for midgets.

20k cheaper? the dealer I'm getting my Tacoma from sells trd pro tacomas for msrp which is around 47k

@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN In this market? Used 2020 tacos are selling for 60k. Brand new TRD pros all have a 10k+ USD market adjustment.

​@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN ummm you must not be looking at a trd pro

@@Falinzin No, they don't. The dealer I got my TRD offroad sells strictly at MSRP. They just sold 3 TRD Pros for under 50k.

@@scott8238 wrong. If you want the dealer name I'll give it to you, the trucks are still on their site

I'm doing a 3 inch lift on my 2022 Pro 4x (In Tactical Green Metallic) that I just picked up - seems the right height for me, was going to do 4 inches but then it wouldn't fit in my garage! Compared to the Taco's on Toyota dealers lots here with $10-15k market adjustments I'm in the Pro 4x (Which unfortunately I still had to pay a $5k above MSRP market adjustment) for almost $20k USD less than the Taco... that's a lot of upgrades.

@@Falinzin This is exactly the info I was hoping to see. I know the video compared stock models, but it does seem like a Pro 4x with a lift kit and a shock upgrade, if it could be done for the difference in price to a TRD Pro, would be a great vehicle.

Guys have already figured out a wiring mod on frontier to lock rear locker in 4 high.

That's our own property. But, there are lots of free trails in Ontario

Yes! I think it would be a great comparison video with the Taco.

if we get a chance we will.

Agreed 100% you are spot on

Yea I’m unsure why he wants to go so fast in “crawl” mode haha

He didn’t say it didn’t work it’s just not as good as every other manufacturer.

@@lukepotosky4853 I know, I'm saying it works better than other manufacturers'. It's may not be as comfortable or quiet, but it's got better off road functionality.

@T-boe the first the 2.3 has been around for quite some time with no significant issues.

Same here. Lift and didn't run me any where near an extra $10k

@@alinhinthoulay6323 ya but you know that the extra money into the 4x is now gone... the pro tacoma you can always sell for comparison to the new Price of a pro...

Totally right, the Frontier because it has the better powertrain and in my opinion has a better interior and better looks, the frontier can do anything the tacoma does offroad just maybe with a little drama and it is like the better tacoma just not as good offroad in some situations but you can fix those little offroad issues

@@francislegayada1783 A 2-3" lift and some bigger tires for the Frontier solve all of it's problems too... that's maybe $3-4k total, if you put $3-4k into the Tacos powertrain it's only going to be pushing what the Frontier is stock, and you can't solve that jerky transmission either.

Will test mine, Tacoma TRD 4x4 premium.

Probably programming considering they are very similar parttime 4wd modes

Look at the Nissan’s front diff, exposed. The 1/4 aluminum skid on the Tacoma protects what you’re most likely to hit a lot better than the thin tin plates on the Nissan

@@northerntoyota7584 both look pretty darn good for OEM offerings. The Nissans diff is exposed but looks like it’s tucked up a good deal and adjacent to the center skid plate.

@@northerntoyota7584 Yeah, but if you are making contact mid vehicle, then kiss the Taco's exhaust goodbye. The Frontier definitely packaged the exhaust away better.

@@northerntoyota7584 The frame on the frontier also does a better job of protecting things. The transfer case sticks down a bit on the tacoma.

Colorado for sure! 😁

I’m biased, but the Ranger Tremor is a beast.

Dont need to trust you,, just go look on used vehicle sites, hahaha people know how it is..

@@MiK3Y13 after buying my used '00 Camry, I have been a faithful toyota fanboy. That car (which I still have) has treated me well. so I was probably going to go with the tacoma anyway

Yeah for those who want a camry engine

@@Ashoud_Anobetah It's a small truck. Doesn't need a HD pickup truck powertrain. It's like whining about a Prius not having a twin turbo V8. Dumb. The sales numbers don't lie. rangers, and colorados might have better performance, but they are cheaply built dumpster fires.

us too

Ranger raptor is not available in US though

Yeah good thing they got a head start. Can't wait to see how the new Colorado is.