2022 Toyota Tundra | Talking Cars

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The 2022 Tundra marks the first thorough redesign of Toyota’s full-sized pickup in 15 years. We rented the 1794 Edition, and share our first impressions of its handling around our test track. We also discuss the slick powertrain, upgraded cabin, multilink rear suspension with coil springs, and how it stacks up against competitors like the RAM 1500, Ford F-150, and Chevrolet Silverado. Also, with the variety of all-wheel drive systems on the market, we discuss what to consider when choosing a vehicle with AWD, and why Subaru's Symmetrical system is unique.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:50 - 2022 Toyota Tundra
12:36 - Question: Are all AWD systems created equal?
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@johnbehneman1546 2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I LEARNED SO MUCH!!!

@PaulHo 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy to think that in the time that it took for the Tundra to be redone, Ram used to be Dodge Ram 1500. Trucks change so much while staying the same.

@anotheran 2 жыл бұрын

Symmetrical awd doesn't mean power is going to all wheels. It means the axle shaft length is equal for both left and right.

@chuckwalla2967 2 жыл бұрын

Shaft, not shift.

@anotheran 2 жыл бұрын

@@chuckwalla2967 sorry auto correct on phone and didn't notice

@atmartens 2 жыл бұрын

Of course there’s a difference. Even within Honda, the CRV has a much different system then the Passport/Pilot/Ridgeline. It’s terrible if you’re needing to get through snow and other tough situations. However it’s not as fuel efficient compared to the CRV. I’d just get another Outback if he loves his old one.

@tenblinkers3173 2 жыл бұрын

Hey CR, there ARE hybrid mechanical AWD systems outside of the Crosstrek.

@stephenj4937 2 жыл бұрын

Right, but examples like the Tucson are FWD biased until it detects slippage in the rear.

@tenblinkers3173 2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenj4937 Fair point. The Ford Escape hybrid is also a true mechanical AWD system.

@aidanl9535 2 жыл бұрын

toyota actually has always done the brake petal thing for different features. my 2010 highlander has hill hold that you activate by pushing the brake petal down harder

@Nflguy4949 2 жыл бұрын

Paying more for used then a vehicle cost brand new sure is true! A year ago a new 2021 Tundra TRD Pro had an avg MSRP of $56-$57k. Now dealers are selling those same Trucks with 5,000 to 30,000 miles for $65k.

@penvon 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered an SR5 TRD OR…was told 4 month wait,initially I wanted the TRD Sport but changed my mind.The dealership isn’t too happy with me changing my mind every month BUT it’s my money & I’m learning more about this truck by the day because there are so many models & options which tend to differ in Canada…Compared to the US models.

@dougreed736 2 жыл бұрын

How long till you get it? I ordered an sr5 offroad they said June.

@hereigoagain5050 2 жыл бұрын

My RAV4 hybrid + snow tires is pretty good in the snow. The rear electric motor runs at low speeds, which is what you want in deep snow.

@LionRunner 2 жыл бұрын

@2:20 I think 1794 is like the middle trim and there is TRD Pro & Capstone is the top of the line for 2022 Tundra. @5:00 Not to forget Tundra also has the option to turn off Engine stop/start system with a button next to auto highbeam button. @6:49 "Toyota reliability come from cautiously implementing" but I hear Turbo waste gate issue from the brand new Tundra with 300ish miles and customer had to wait for a month. That makes a Toyota lover like me less interest in turbo engines even by Toyota. When I check the new Tundra in person I was also thinking will things like front engine cooling flaps mechanism / front spoiler mechanism could fail or not. Also headlight adjustment mechanism also adds complication could contribute to expected reliability. Rear axle from Hino also looked identical to 4Runner. It is also interesting that Falken Wildpeak AT3WA from factory on Tundra are not 3PMSF tire vs aftermarket Falken Wildpeak AT3W on my 4R are 3PMSF rated tire. I'm also interested to see CR impressions on steering controls and see how much you can control the infotainment system like music. Also test the new rear locker and 4wd system on that rocky course at CR.

@dougreed736 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I'm concerned with longevity on all the moving parts. I ordered an sr5 but honestly in my cold winter climate the moving spoilers will be an issue.

@ItsAlive111 2 жыл бұрын

My old 2012 ML350 had the brake hold option activated by pushing the brake pedal harder while stopped. Was quite unnerving the first time I tried it. But it’s OK, nothing did break with the brakes lol

@richh7608 2 жыл бұрын

At 2:42 in the video. On your just purchased Tundra SR5 - What's with that ugly cable (that looks like an afterthought) that appears to be going to the radiator cap? Also looks like a great snag point when working under the hood!

@LionRunner 2 жыл бұрын

@15:52 Do you think a true mechanical Torsen Center diff true 4x4 would for better than a almost mechanical viscous coupling center differential with traction control base awd on Subaru be better or even a electro magnetic center differential with torque vectoring rear diff based AWD system like on Honda iVTM4 / Acura sh-awd be superior than Subaru? I see few Toyota models also use torque vectoring rear diff with electro magnetic center differential without just relying on traction control based system. (True that I'm still old school using 4WD not AWD and this comment is a question not a statement).

@edweagle 2 жыл бұрын

for the subaru hybrid awd question, test a Hyundai Sante Fe Plugin Hybrid

@chuckwalla2967 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't quite get Monte's argument against pressing the brake pedal harder to activate auto stop feature.

@chrissimmons9969 2 жыл бұрын

That huge grill on the new Tundra is heinous…

@rusilver01 2 жыл бұрын

Looking to buy new 2023 Tundra. You're feedback is always appreciated.

@ItsAlive111 2 жыл бұрын

Wait until the turbo wastegate issue is fixed

@dougreed736 2 жыл бұрын

@@ItsAlive111 it's fixed it was a supplier defective product on tundras built in December.

@toronado455 2 жыл бұрын

The new CR-V hybrid has mechanical AWD with a physical drive shaft. Surprised that wasn't mentioned. However, in a review on KZfaq I watched, CR-V doesn't actually have better AWD performance.

@adriancooper78 2 жыл бұрын

Hey I thought the Toyota TRD Pro was the highest model?! Also if you have a Class A Commercial Drivers License or if you drive an articulated vehicle you will have the skill to back up a trailer. You'll have to steer the cab in the opposite direction.

@LionRunner 2 жыл бұрын

Correct, TRD Pro is a higher grade than 1794 but Capstone is the top of the line for Tundra.

@ItsAlive111 2 жыл бұрын

Symmetrical AWD means the axles are of equal length not about the full time vs part time AWD

@zroger73 2 жыл бұрын

I came here to say something similar. Subaru has nearly a half-dozen designs of "Symmetrical AWD" with different capabilities. The next step below a "4WD" vehicle with locking front, center, AND rear diffs would be Honda's iVTM-4/SH-AWD system used in the Pilot, Ridgeline, Passport, and some Acura models. Then, there's pretty much "every other AWD system" with open diffs and BRAKE-BASED torque vectoring instead of "true" torque vectoring using twin clutches in the rear diff.

@Buc_Stops_Here 2 жыл бұрын

Subaru Crosstrek hybrid - if he likes Subaru, that is his choice for that AWD system. It takes Toyota's last generation hybrid system, and integrates it with Subaru's AWD technology. I live on a mountain of 650 feet in CT to my home. My Subaru has no trouble getting home anytime, my Buick Envision AWD also works well. I do like Subaru the best, but GMs technology does work well. Hybrid I would only trust Subaru at this point because it does work in the snow getting home on a mountain.Toyota's AWD Prius only has a battery for the rear wheels, when the battery is low, it goes FWD only. Does not work nearly as well. This is good with All Weather Tires. FWD cars cannot get up mountain that I used to own.

@dhrudry1 2 жыл бұрын

with gas prices being the way it is, they need to come up with EV tundra ASAP

@Doc1855 2 жыл бұрын

I LOVED my 10 Tundra but the fuel economy was in the toilet. We simply can’t afford Any new car or truck. Furthermore I refuse to pay more for any car than what I paid for my first house in 96 on 3 acres. (3 bedroom, 2 bath).

@progressreason_1 2 жыл бұрын

High O&M

@chaso4937 2 жыл бұрын

HI JEN, MIKE, AND RYAN, GOOD SHOW!! I THINK THE STOP-START ENGINE SYSTEM BY GAS PEDAL ON THE TUNDRA IS A GREAT IDEA!! MY WIFE AND I LEASE A 2019 FORESTER, A CAR WHICH YOU AT CR LOVE RECOMMENDING, AND IT HAS A LUMPY, BUMPY, GRUMPY, UNREFINED, UNDERDEVELOPED, OVERHYPED STOP-START SYSTEM THAT IS SO BAD IT COULD BE A DEAL BREAKER FOR BUYING THE CAR!! ( did you guys talk about that in your review?? ). YES, YOU CAN TURN IT OFF, BUT IT TURNS ITSELF BACK ON EVERY TIME YOU TURN THE ENGINE OFF!! THE TUNDRA'S SYSTEM SOUNDS MUCH BETTER!! AND WHILE THE NEW VERSION IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT OVER THE LAST MODEL, I STILL THINK THE FRONT END LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DESIGNED BY TONKA!! OH, ON THE PLUG-IN HYBRIDS WITH ELECTRIC REAR DRIVE MOTORS; I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THOSE MOTORS GET THEIR POWER FROM THE HYBRID BATTERY PACK, NOT THE GAS ENGINES ALTERNATOR, AND WHEN THAT BATTERY PACK RUNS DOWN, THE CAR WILL DEFAULT BACK TO FRONT-WHEEL DRIVE ONLY; IS THAT TRUE?? THANKS GUYS!! CHAS ORVIS, PLAINVILLE, CT.

@apache-yaquibrown4060 2 жыл бұрын

Cool infotainment system??? Really, what about those of us that don't want a glaring screen in the middle of the dash. Isn't this a safwty hazard? I can remember not seeing a car at night, but notice light coming that kept me from pulling in front of a car. Won't that light from infotainment system therefore interfere?

@danhjelholt5262 2 жыл бұрын

Do you really think Toyota would have a screen not switch to night mode? Seriously?

@tomdrummy4984 2 жыл бұрын

They did a lot of talking about Subaru AWD, but didn’t answer the guys question.

@randy2558 2 жыл бұрын

Why is CR highlighting a 17 mpg gas guzzler when gas just hit $6+ a gallon? Talk about tone deaf 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Would be nice if CR gave more love to affordable compacts, hybrids, and EV's.

@TheUsflow 2 жыл бұрын

And on top of that tone deaf talking about disabling auto start-stop which does save a good amount of fuel

@dave3682 2 жыл бұрын

Can we please stop praising truck manufacturers for going to coil-sprung rear suspensions? I realize that they ride better when unladen, but when it comes to half-ton pickup trucks, towing and hauling should take precedence over ride comfort every time. Leaf springs remain the best option for cost, reliability, ease of maintenance, and their ability to handle weight. Putting rear coil springs on a half-ton pickup truck is like sending a Gladiator into the arena armed with a steak knife. Sure, you can still stab someone with a steak knife, but a sword is still a much better tool for the job.

@stephenj4937 2 жыл бұрын

If you are doing heavy towing you need a heavy duty truck, not a half-ton. And since most half-ton trucks spend 90%+ of their time with the bed empty it makes sense to prioritize the ride for those conditions.

@ninioburbuja 2 жыл бұрын

2:06 oh that orange peel paint...

@americandude3825 2 жыл бұрын

It’s actually something Toyota has done for at least 15 years. They spray the rocker panels to protect them from rust then paint over it. My 2008 sequoia has 204k miles and no rust.

@adriancooper78 2 жыл бұрын

He needs so stick with his Subaru. The latter model have better pick up.

@rambo2672 2 жыл бұрын

We know JD Power is a paid advertising company. People buy Tundra for quality reliability and resale value....all the gadgets are nothing.

@KJSvitko 2 жыл бұрын

Time for Toyota to go all electric. They are late to the EV party and it will cost them in sales and market share going forward. Electric vehicles sales are growing while gas and diesel sales are declining.

@orchardmudtwin 2 жыл бұрын

Like I was both these guys were mesmerized by this woman’s beauty like I was; too much talking for me, she should just lose the dudes.

@jeffw6894 2 жыл бұрын

Fake V8 engine sound piped in through the speakers, 1794 isn't top trim. Ford dropped the V8??? Since when??

@andyd5492 2 жыл бұрын

CR is so biased. Ford had 3.5 twin turbo and 10 speed in 2017. No generator available in the Tundra. Some things got better but you have watch the 'non professional' reviews of the new Tundra to find out what is not as good as the previous version.

@anotheran 2 жыл бұрын

The outback awd system (active torque split) is clutch pack based similar to many other low and mid tier systems. Subaru did a pretty lackluster job with it and it's cvt kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odyPqq58ltixYn0.html. Toyota have a pretty horrible awd system too. Get a wrx or sti