Then the Tundra should offer an option that compares better. If you want to to actually use the truck, the Jap crap doesn’t have an answer

Yeah, I caught that too. Dad has the middle of the road facts which I liked

I thought he was more biased to the tundra

The 6.2 makes peak torque at 1,500 RPM

the junior should stop eating macs

Lol.

Turbo is great only on diesel engines

@@marcelo403polo2 That is true because you absolutely have to have one to get them to work well. The difference is they are cast iron and built like tanks to last forever. My grandfather had an old Dodge Ram diesel from the 1980s that did not have a turbo. It was the slowest vehicle known to man, and people would honk at us all the time when I would drive with him, and it would make me laugh so hard when they would blow by us with their horns blaring, and my grandfather would yell out his window, "I've got it floored ya morons!" I'm laughing right now thinking about those great memories as I type this. He passed in 2016.

Actually, the Chevy’s 22” wheels would create the stiffer ride. Even E class rubber flexes better than a metal wheel with a narrower sidewall.

It has better than ford. Theres a video where they compare em.

Have to agree I have a 2015 high country with 6.2 has been completely reliable and returns 22 mpg on the highway. Never disappoints when you mash the go pedal with my edge tuner and borla exhaust and intake its surprisingly quick for a 5600lb truck glad I optioned the 6.2 for sure

@@jameskwak3198 Amen 🙏 🙌

The coil spring suspension is capable of over double that. Tow rating on a Ram 2500 Cummins with coils is 20k on the gooseneck and like 18k on the bumper .Both the ram 1500 and the tundra have rear coils and over a 12,000 pound rating.im sure you know more than there engineers and have logged more test miles than them, definitely take advice from just anyone on KZfaq over the manufacturer.

@@JohnDiMartino Yeah, and they lost payload capacity by switching to coil over leaf springs. They went with form over function, softer ride which sacrificed towing prowess too. No thanks. I daily a Yukon XL, like my coils but when we haul heavy, it's the Sierra and her leaf springs that do the job better.

I still think airbags are the future.

@@Steph-lv5fg Probably, big rigs have been using them for over 20 years. As car prices continue to climb, they'll probably all have coils and airbags. Downside is maintenance and longevity.

The reality is few trucks haul trailers. Most are now mini van replacements

Shift it into manual and leave in 5th gear (for the 6 speed) to keep it from going into V4 mode. I have a Range AFM/DOD on my 5.3 Silverado so it never goes into V4 mode.

The tundra has a lot more power of course it’s going to tow better lol

@@amocat11wilson48 tundra tested in video was $10k less than the Silverado. If it has less power then that's too bad. They should've tested the hybrid tundra instead of the 2nd option v6.

Only a Chevy guy would say his truck is better at going down hills. 😂😂👍👍👍

@@51AB Really ? I drive a 2021 F-350 7.3 ! Lmao 🤣

@@roadglide1142 Easy mistake. The video is about half tons. My daughter drives for a hot shot company. They have two of the first 7.3s sent to Calgary. One has over 600,000 kms and the other over 400 pulling a flat deck. No problems at all after the original spark plug wire issue.

@@51AB The 7.3 so far has been an amazing truck for me. It’s got 4.30 Gears & recently I plowed a 2’ Blizzard here in the North East with it & it simply wasn’t even phased by it . Luv it so far !

@@roadglide1142 Absolutely. The owner is a friend of ours. He said they have been the lowest maintenance most trouble free gas engine he's ever seen. He doubts they will ever wear out. Happy plowing! We have zero snow in Southern Alberta.

Except the Chevy in this video I guess

@@mcrn12 you wish

Except a chevy 😁

Ya, until typical GM tranny gives out and the tundra rolls by laughing. lolol

I have over 400k miles on my Chevy truck transmission no issues just fluid changes.

I was gonna say the same thing. Ford and Ram are guilty of this as well.

@@jakelee5456 agreed! And the sad thing Is that people actually buy into it, then the RV dealer talks them into buying a 8,000 lb camper. I have a 2019 Silverado LTZ Z71, with the 5.3. Payload is 1,741 lbs. Towing is about 9,500 lbs. By the time I hook up my 5,000 lb pop up camper and load the bed with gear and the camper with supplies, I’m near my payload limit and over Toyotas and Rams for sure. 550 lbs of tongue weight, 500 lbs of stuff in the bed 450 lbs of people and dog = 1,500 payload. If you use a weight distribution hitch, more of the trailer weight is transferred to the tow vehicle. You should never tow or haul at the limit, and the limit can be reached very easily. That travel trailer they are using is way too much for these trucks to go camping with.

@@user-bl4ez3sh5g Yup. I would never want to tow that trailer with anything less then 3/4ton. Also that trailer is really high

Exactly right. Most people buying trucks today never use them as such, which is now why you have trucks with car suspensions under them. They wanna have a "truck" so they can be macho girls with their buddies, but haven't the slightest inclining's of ever doing anything with it other than trips to Walmart and the mall. So, that's why you have trucks full of electronic nannies now, knobs to help them backup a trailer they have no business towing, and a dozen cameras and even at that they still manage to run into everything around them.

Not true. The V6’s with turbos have been refined over the years. Power and torque made down low allows for towing heavier trailers than naturally aspirated V8 motors while at the same time providing equal or better fuel mileage. Longevity of the motors is proving itself daily. If turbo engines weren’t proving themselves folks would be running away from them as they did in the 70’s when manufacturers such as GM tired them and didn’t have sufficient technology. Many of us who have owned v8 motors have switched and are very happy with those decisions.

@@kenwelsh4189 LOL. If that's what you think. I'll keep my V8 they don't work nearly as hard as those underpowered turbo 4 and 6 cylinder engines when being tasked to do the work of a V8.

@@wildbill23c gotta love a die hard v8 guy. I was that guy too. When the ecoboost f150 came out in 2011 I too felt that way. Couldn’t believe a 6 banger could outperform a naturally aspirated v8. Got ready to upgrade my 02 f150 with 5.4 and test drove the ecoboost. Wow,performance right off the line. Heck you could smoke the tires, even in 4x4. Still, I wasn’t a believer in the baby v6 turbo. Test drove and bought a 2011 screw with 5.0. Still an awesome motor, just not the performance that I’d seen in the ecoboost. Pulled a 7500 lb loaded travel trailer. The 5.0 did well, albeit a bit sedate up to highway speeds while pulling. Fuel mileage in the newer trucks was much better than my old 5.4 and power comparisons were much better in the new truck. Fuel mileage though typical when towing sucked. Typically in the 9.0 mpg range. In 2018 I decided to upgrade my truck again. By This time I had read much more about the ecoboost and spoken with friends who owned and lived theirs. Still I looked for another 5.0. As luck would have it I couldn’t find the truck equipped as I wanted so I again drove the ecoboost. This time I came home with it. Love the truck. Power output, especially for towing is very similar to a diesel- comes on down low. Getting up to speed towing feels like a big block v8- power power to spare. Fuel mileage, whether towing or not is about 20% better than the 5.0 ( I attribute part of this to the new 10 speed transmission). Going up hills, mountains, it rarely gets avoided 3500 rpm even on long grades. Towing fuel mileage with the same trailer sees 10.5/12 mpg. Best em up if you want but you will see many on the road and with todays fuel prices - seeing a 4x4 getting upwards of 22 mpg is just too hard to ignore.

@@kenwelsh4189 Numbers on paper are one thing, but in the real world, the V8 will outlast a turbo V6 by a long shot when used as a truck, I'll take one with a V8 under the hood any day. A turbo V6 might sound cool on paper but in reality they're not made to work hard all the time...once in a while towing your camp trailer to the mountains for a weekend getaway yes, but not used as a daily HD towing machine, it won't hold up long. I use my trucks to work, so I'll keep the V8s and diesels.

From where they live to the high mountains is about a 5 000 km drive...ask me, I know. Have done it 2X in 18 and 19.

In a higher altitude the chevrolet will be at a disadvantage higher altitude equal denser air the

I agree with you, but Ontario is pretty flat. So is Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Quebec...

@@mexking2683Wrong. Higher altitude equals less dense air not “denser air” as you said.

Past generations or current generation?

Hell I just traded my 22 tundra for a rst and if I liked anything about new tundra it was the look n ride smoother but I felt info system was not user friendly

Btw I was gtn 15.5 mpg on hwy w tundra now I get 17.5/18 mpg w the rst 5.3 💁🏻‍♂️

And the adage; brakes cost a lot less than transmissions. (use the brakes unless you need more, then downshift)

@@chuckgrenci6404 Yes sir 🙌 last I checked thos 10 speeds are 6k+ and on back order because of our leadership in the government. Engine braking has its place but but dropping 5 gears every time you let go of the trottle will surely shorten it life even if it has a Toyota badge on it.

@@harlandurant7014 Toyota is so I overrated 🤦‍♂️ it has such a fan following

Two circumstances you want engine braking. When I push the button for it because I am towing downgrade with a heavy trailer behind. Then in the same instance with most any trailer on snow covered roads (downhill.) You don't want to be on the brakes downhill in the snow. Last time I checked, TT's, including mine, are not ABS. When you hit the brakes, the trailer wheels will lock up and since it can go side to side and keep speed, it's more of a risk. Downshifting on a downgrade is good in their instance. It's not overworking anything. Especially for more inexperienced drivers that are afraid when pulling a trailer for some reason, they ride brakes often and the last thing you want or need is brake fade. Brake fade sucks a fat one.

Only in tow haul mode do they do this. For obvious reasons. Savings brakes and enabling safety going down long grades. And saving drivetrain wear when unloaded. New fords do similarly and shift rather pleasantly.

@Self Made Auto Agreed. Do not buy the 6.2L if gas is a worry. This is why I bought a 2021 Tundra TRD Pro because I wanted quality and longevity and didn't give a shiz about mpg.

I get it, you want the extra power it can give but your right no need to have to put premium fuel for it. You would think GM would use any of the other engines they carry. You can buy crate engines from GM that make tons of power that use regular fuel.

I agree...no one wants to pay the price for premium...doesn't make sense to me at all. Otherwise i would go diesel. They could reduce a bit of compression and manage knock by the computer but that is a big assumption on my part regarding why that specific 6.2 requires premium

@Self Made Auto thanks for correcting me sir! Thought it was required

You wouldn't have to worry about it for long. Chevy V8's are eating themselves before their first oil change.

The cylinder deactivation system on the Chevy destroys cams and followers, the 10-speed trans has been known to fail at under 20k miles, and the transfer cases are failing in record numbers. Get a TRD Pro Tundra to eliminate the chatter on washboards. Current 2021 and 2022 Silverado 1500’s are rated “Far Below Average” on Consumer Reports. Yikes. Go check out new Cadillac Escalades. Even worse.

@@ronrannals1 This is nonsense. Consumer reports is nothing short of a scam if you ever look into them, and these trucks have not bean having any issues other than the DOD which is a problem at about 200k, but can be fixed with a $160 delete.

@@Steph-lv5fg these Toyota guys are f****** hilarious. Just making s*** up as they go. The 6.2 L easily overpowers any truck engine Toyota ever made and probably gets better gas mileage doing it. The 10-speed has been nothing but Rock Solid in the GM config of it. AFM has been an issue on very few of the GM trucks even though everybody wants to complain about it. The fact of the matter is the percentage of trucks that it actually affects is so small that they're not even remotely in the running for being the most unreliable brand of trucks. Anybody that's using Consumer Reports as a guide deserves what they get. All you have to do is look up a brief history of consumer reports to see that what it comes down to for them is who gives them the biggest check. Now jd power on the other hand, totally different ballgame. An interestingly enough JD Power always votes General Motors quite well. Another interesting fact, in all the years we've owned newer vehicles around here since we have a fleet of them that we constantly turnover, the only firm I've ever gotten a review from or ask to fill out a survey from was JD Power. I've never seen anything from Consumer Reports. I've lost track of the amount of JD Power one's I filled out. Geez I wonder who I'm going to believe. Consumer Reports on the other hand has been sued for a lot of their Antics, and they seem to always lose in court.

@@ashes2ashes863 So true, I couldn't agree more. I know too many people who buy vehicles based on consumer reports only to be disappointed.

@@Steph-lv5fg my father told me once that when he first married my mother and they bought a new home to start life together, he was talked into a washer and dryer by a sales rep who used the Consumer Reports documentation to push this one set specifically. He said the dryer lasted 3 years before the element went out and the washer had an issue every month until a relative literally gave then a old one to get them by because they couldn't afford to fix it constantly. It also flooded the house once because of a well know to the manufacturer sensor issue. Consumer Reports said it was great buy though and continued to for years to come through it's newer replacements .

The best setup in the chevy because it's softer? IMO the best would be the highest rating. The high country lacks here. Other trim levels can go to 13300 in the GM trucks but I bet it wouldn't ride as smooth. Id love to see a max tow comparison with the highest ratings both offer.

@@EGGINFOOLS I assumed this was a better towing suspension since it's not a z71? Maybe it is and I missed it. Powertrain wise, this truck has it all except the axle ratio I guess? If it had the right axle, this engine/trans combo would probably have the highest rating I believe. My main point was the 6.2 engine and non-off road suspension which I assumed would be better at towing. For suspension, Tundra has several choices, and this was just the base.

Silverado has a diesel duramax inline 6 that will tow 13k + and way better mpg than hybrid Toyota…

@@lorenyoder8696 Yeah the heavy duty packages have 3.73 gears and a stiffer suspension. I didn't know what you meant when you said better. I was asking a serious question but reads sarcastic. 😆. Didn't mean it that way. I don't tow over 7500 so I would take the smoother suspension setup that's still rated at 9100 over the stiffer 13.3k setup.

@@EGGINFOOLS It's all good, I either forgot or didn't know Chevy had a hd pack. So 3 suspensions for them then. Cool. I agree with you, I think most of these trucks are to stiff for how a lot of people use them. I guess I still think a Tundra hybrid with rear airbags would be pretty sweet for towing 7-9k loads like the rv in the video. Doesn't get a diesel's hwy fuel economy, but no def and more pep. Still plenty of torque as well.

Exactly my thoughts! wtf!

No you won't... New Tundras won't be selling without ridiculous markups across the board for a while. Also, note that you can get the Silverado High Country with the 6.2 for $62k; the additional options are all interior options and the like (which the Chevy appears to have more of).

@@cameronwhite6592 I can wait. I’m not foolish enough to purchase a vehicle during these times.

Fix the ride? All I've heard so far about the new Tundra is it has the absolute BEST ride. Super smooth

@@joe1071 I mean, you've really got to take a good look at your priorities. Are you planning to tow actual trailers and haul actual materials in the bed, or are you going to haul groceries with the tow mirrors flipped up? Coil springs will right really smooth around the mall parking lot, but "old-fashioned" leaf springs often get the job done better when working (not "working"!).

@@joe1071 to each his own. My point was that with the money you save buying a Tundra (during “normal” economic conditions) you’ll have plenty left over to do whatever you want. I’m not crazy about its looks, but it’s tough to pass up Toyota’s crawl control if you’re an avid outdoorsman…it’s the best in the business.

The EcoBoost has outperformed every 6.2 on TFL . Why wouldn't Toyota?

The v6 is the tundras only engine option which is kinda sad

@@51AB TFL does most of their testing at high elevation where having turbos is a big advantage over naturally aspirated

Negative

@Self Made Auto Our Toyota is 20 years old and still great!

@Self Made Auto Good point.

They both will fall apart.

@@ameremortal The newer toyotas are not the same toyotas as 20 years ago.

@@tr4u5mp90 that’s a shame! I have a Hyundai and that’s been great so far. How’s ford now? I kinda like that little hybrid truck to do my small plant deliveries, but the last Ford I owned was a nightmare, interior fell apart.

TFL is just paid for promoting weird crap lately. I unsubscribed from their propaganda

TK was uphill

@@stevet9432 true but to go from a rolling start compared to a dead stop and still be about 9 seconds slower that had to be one heck of a grade. Like I said something isn’t right

@@kross1261 How would you know the grade?

@@marcelo403polo2 the greedy roman ruins the channel

Good eye.

If anything ride harshness should be a negative with the GM. 22 inch wheels don’t leave a lot of meat between tire, wheel, and ground. I was actually surprised. Prior Toyotas have always had mushy suspension with any weight in the back so the firmer suspension or feel anyway may relate as much to the seats in the Toyota as the actual ride firmness of the suspension.

@@kenwelsh4189 Agreed i traded in my 2020 tundra 4x4 for a 22 Tundra TRD Off road and the seats in this model are not nearly as good as my other tundras they are smaller and thinner.

because Toyota has done so well with their rusty frames lol

You don't need a 2500 to pull 7k lol

You gotta oil your frame with fluid film or surface shield from pb blaster can't trust the manufacture for rust prevention

New Tundras aren't doing well with turbo issues right out of the gate.

@@mblake0420 Try towing wit both and come back with your new opinion. It sure will tow that load but trust me it is day and night difference

I think its required for over just 3500lbs. At least in Alberta.

5000 lbs for any half ton I’ve seen. Check the manuals. 2022 Tundra manual page 185 states “If the gross trailer weight is over 5000 lb. (2200 kg), a weight dis- tributing hitch with sufficient capacity is required.”

Yeah, I was surprised to see that the 6.2 isn't offered on most trim levels. That's a bummer. You should be able to get a basic work truck with the 6.2 without much hassle. That's a miss by GM in my book.

Ford guy, but they 6.2 has always been a great motor

Had the 6.2L.....good engine except multiple lifter/pushrod issues,had to run premium,pathetic 94L gas tank,a very bad 8 speed tranny,and highway vibes that Chev just sorta said oh well. Worst vehicle I've ever owned. Performance was good....but I'll never own another truck that needs premium gas...same performance roughly as the Ecoboost,less mpg empty,better pulling tho. Right now Chev isn't an option....don't want the gutless 5.3L,or the the little diesel.

And I'm not a Ford guy....over the years I've flopped back n forth between Chev n Ford. AFTER the bad experience with my 6.2L I've bought 2 F150s in a row.....cause they've been good to me. Bigger gas tanks,same or better performance than 6.2L and no premium gas.

I love that sound too, but remember, that sound is just energy that's not going to pulling anything, just waste.

@@rodjbosch If you owned the 6.2, you would know premium is only recommended and not required.

The refreshed 2022 models start production on Feb 21st. The current 22’s are just 2021’s carried over until the refreshed models were ready. & the WT and custom trims get the old interior. The LT & up get the new interior.

@@frankiexv4533 Ok thank you. I thought it was the LTZ model that started to get the nicer interior.

The V6 turbos have better low down torque and don’t seem to rev as high when towing

But I agree they likely will wear out quicker then the n/a V8’s

@@tylerking27 not necessarily, my 5oh needs to hover 4-5k rpm up grades. Where the turbo 3.5’s don’t even need to downshift 😂

@@doubled8247 that’s true, I have a 5.0 and two and my dad has a 3.5TT, definitely a difference in rpm while towing

@@tylerking27 haha yeah new 3.5’s have late 90’s and early 2000’s diesel torque now a days.

I looked around and bought a 21 tundra for the same reason. Love the pure power and reliability of the 5.7

The Chevy 2.7t has been very reliable. People always laugh at that engine, but it has a ton of low end torque. I’d trust it over the V8s.

@@paullucas3 yep you can't beat it...wise decision

@@user-tb7rn1il3q you're saying chevys 2.7 is more reliable than their v8'S?

I meant to say almost identical...

In some situations it can be the same...if you are working a small engine doing the work that a larger engine should be doing you certainly could get the same or better fuel economy with the larger engine. Other things come into play like transmission ratios, rear axle ratios, etc.

@@wildbill23c ah, that makes sence.

My 6.0 gets about 16 highway being an 06 a 5.4 and even the 5.0 triton and coyote engines get about 9 to 10, so I agree, they're generally better with mpg

Just bought a 2021 4x4 crew with a 6.2 and a 10 speed. 21-22 mpg on the highway going 72 mph

The 3.0 Power stroke is dead. I believe this year is the last.

Not sure what you mean. I see a ton of tundras pulling 25-30' travel trailers in the summer in the Rockies. Maybe it depends depends on where you live? Odd side note- I'd guess 70% of airstream trailers I see locally are behind a tundra. It's like they come as a package.

Not necessarily true, I personally have a tundra and tow a 26 foot boat and trailers often. I see a good bit of people around me doing the same thung

7k

There pretty much the same millage in the real world.

I'm sure it's very difficult for them to get perfect matchups with the car shortage

I agree,can't wait for my new Tundra to arrive. Watch the FLT comparo up the ike with the TTV6 tundra vs the hemi Ram....I'll take the relaxed turbo over the buzzing V8 thanks.

The cylinder deactivation/AFM or whatever they call it has basically ruined the V8's in my opinion although it can probably be disabled or bypassed it is an unnecessary hassle.