It was not a choice. Both are used to the six speed

@@bmwblogthey are not used to it😂

You guys should have chosen both auto cars, for a straight line drag race. (Sorry, but Otherwise it is nonsense…)

@@58kivanc58 exactly its clear if both are auto definitely the CS will win

@@Draconian8 yup not used to it, clearly not used to driving manual...

Maybe but that's the point. Not everyone is a pro driver. Look at the first run, it was flawless. That's the one

@@bmwblog it was just a joke but we expect expert level driving skills when its comes to bmwblog😉 at least the gears should be shifted flawless

😂

We kept some of the bad runs to prove a point: it comes down to the driver between these two cars. That's how close they are. As you can see in the first tun, the shifts were okay and it won. There were a couple similar runs. But hey, next time we will just keep the best shifts if possible, hopefully both drivers will shift perfectly each time.

@@bmwblog based on the quality of shifts we now only know who the better driver is, or it looked like there was a desired outcome. New must win over old.

Here is the whole story so we can all move on. The drag race was supposed to have its own slot that day. Due to scheduling issues with the track, we had to shift things around. Meaning this: We filmed the 1M, M2, M2 CS, M3 Comp back to back on the track for a full video review. Then, we moved onto the new M3 CS. Same thing: full video review on the track. Now it's 6:30PM and EVERYONE wants to go home. But I pushed them to stay behind to do a quick drag race so we don't miss this opportunity. That implied setting up cameras on both cars, a POV camera on my head, microphones, all in less than 5 min. Now jump behind the wheel and do a few runs making sure we get the proper footage. At some point, shifting was not the main focus of mine, but rather talking about the drag race, making sure all things are recording etc....SO OF COURSE, I might mess up some shifts here and there. But overall, what you see is exactly what we wanted to show: the cars are really really close and it comes to the driver. How do I know that? Because when I was behind the wheel of the G87 M2, I came second a couple of times also, but also ahead a couple of times. Then we swapped. We cut the video short to show the outcome. There was no desired outcome so I have no idea where that came from. Hope that clarifies it. But I'll leave you with this: the cars are very very close in performance.

Not in the first run. But we showed all runs to show that the limit is the driver. The idea was also to try to hit the Rev at the right level. That's what that S55 likes

@@bmwblog thanks. Looking forward for the rolling start ... And may be DCT:)

@@bmwblogthe shifting was dogshit 😂

The CS is clearly not faster. It is lighter weight, which helps, but the G87 has a lot more power, as it is severely underrated. The car is easily 500+ hp to help with the extra weight.

@@JapplesnapI agree the g87 is the same as the new m3/m4 just detuned, mod for mod g87 is a beast no doubt however the f87 looks the best.

Agreed. Unfortunately, we couldn't get them in automatic. The point really was to show how close these cars are, hence why we showed the terrible shifting also

It did. Look at the first run. We left all runs in to show you that it comes down to the driver in this case

Meaning? Only one run had bad shifting

Pretty sure we're able to do that. After driving a 1M for 12 years.

Unfortunately not enough of a straight line there. We were there to film 6 cars back to back and we had a few min to spare so we did this.

We swapped cars and the result was the same: very very close to each other. So putting someone who can actually drive, didn't make a difference.

Extra weight actually comes from the G82 M4

Yes, that was one of the issues. The G87 M2 shifts better when close to the line. But again. people like to criticize without looking in the issue :)

@@bmwblog no he meant the driver of the CS sucks at shifting those gears and clearly the CS will take the win most of the time...

Ok, thanks for the feedback

We wanted to prove a point by showing the bad shifting also.

We swapped cars. Jeff won with the new M2. He shifted better. Hence why I think the cars are very very close

😂😂

We had our doubts too for a bit

We will, unfortunately we didn't have much time. We had to get this done in 15 min

You clearly missed the first run where the shifts were perfect. We left the missed shifts in to prove a point. If we knew we're being criticized for perfection, we would have removed them.

@@bmwblog nice copy and paste. but no, while the m2 won his shifting was still horrible @1:59 you can see him shift late 🤣

What copy and paste? Anyway, next time we will spend a whole day on just a drag race video to make sure the shifts are perfect.

@@bmwblog don’t bother that much on the comments, this is the first video on the YT between these two cars anyway

Which car?

@@bmwblog Seven serise, 760i G70

It all comes down to your risk level. I usually don't, but again, up to you.

Not necessarily, the shifting in the CS feels less smoother than in the M2

@@bmwblog theres a major issue between the driver seat and steering wheel keeping the car from performing how it should

Nope, learning as we go :)

Not our car. It's a BMW USA car.

Or we can go back and keep shifting till we get it right. We had 10 min to film this. We usually have hours. Hence the less ideal shifts

It can happen to the best when you have 5 min to do it at end of a long day of filming.

We wanted to, BMW couldn't source the M240i

Try and apple and an orange

Not sure it is.

The M2 CS is great

With a tune these g87's are a beasts, they pick up like a lot more hp

Thanks for sharing

Exactly

The new M2 setup really shines on the track

@@bmwblog Yes I have seen a few videos now, it does seem to be a real track weapon. I'd still have the older M2C though, it's just a beautiful car, perfect size, and playful too.

@@bmwblog After driving the new M2, M3 Comp and M4 Comp on the track at COTA (M Track Days three weeks ago), I thought the M4 Comp was the best track performer of the three. The M2 was a little unstable over some of the rough sections on the track, whereas the M3 Comp and M4 Comp were completely stable in those same sections. The M2 is a great performing car, but its size makes it no longer feel like the M2 we all knew and loved. Driving the F87 M2 feels similar to driving my E36 M3, or more closely, to the E46 M3. But with much more power. The F87 is fast and feels just as nimble as the E36/E46. The G87 M2 clearly feels like a different, and larger, vehicle.

Exactly.

@@bmwblog I would still have the F87 M2 CS even if the G87 M2 is faster.

@@WTF_888 same

Shhhh….. bmw listening :)

The new CS might look great too :)

The only thing the G87 M2 needs is the new Alpha-N G87 M2 Carbon Fixed Rear Wing - Class 3 by IND Distribution and better rims. The car looks fine. Everyone is hating the car for no reason. It literally has better performance than the F22 ever will. Jackie Ding is showing what the G87 M2 can don tracks.

The driver in the M2 CS owns a 1M. He's good with manuals

@@bmwblog could of fooled me!!…. Why would you keep Hitting the limiter then🤔…. He ain’t that good!

@@darrenboston342 tried to push it closer to the limit and missed it a few times. But lesson learned: next time we will keep the perfect shifting also. We thought that by showing the imperfect shifts will highlight how close these cars are and that it comes down to the driver.

@@bmwblog no need to make excuses for him pal, he’s a shit driver! It’s a completely false run, by hitting the limiter he lost time (obvs) & lost…. You need two decent drivers who know why here doing, not some chump!

As always, anybody can do it better.

Relax. It was a long day of filming cars. None of us were at our best and sharp

@@bmwblog Rather than getting defensive, it might be better to acknowledge this was not a good comparison race. I'd almost say to reshoot this, at a time when it isn't at the end of a 'long day of filming cars.' This wasn't a helpful comparison.

@@bbombasot why wasn't it good? Curious. Not defensive, just explained the context. You can accept it or not.

@@bbombasot and it's not like we get both cars at the track whenever we want to. We flew to South Carolina to film.

@@bmwblog 1. Clearly a line up by the F87 2. There’s no side shot showing if the cars are lined up evenly 3. There’s no shot showing the current modes the vehicles are in -- comfort? sport? sport plus? 4. There’s no shot of the launch control use by the G87. is it used? if it isn't, why isn't it? 5. At 2:14-2:20 you can clearly see the cones aren’t aligned 6. There’s no distance shown for this run (it looks extremely short-- is this a race to third gear?) 7. There’s no timing shown for this run 8. There’s no speeds given for this run I get this is at the performance center and the g82 is tough to get for a video like this, but overall this doesn’t help your blog readers to make an informed decision among these two vehicles, which I believe was the intent.

We swapped cars at some point. Both drivers had missed some shifts in certain runs. It proves once again: the cars are very close and it comes down to who shifts perfectly.

Both manual