2023 BMW M3 vs 2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing. Drag and Roll Race. Join this channel to get access to perks: / @samcarlegion
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@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
This is probably the comparison I wanted the most this year! Super happy it happened. For the money, I would take the CT4-V Blackwing.
@GSX455s11 ай бұрын
I went with the Blackwing in the same color and 6mt as well lol, Im not surprised. BMW is notorious for under rating the power. My 335i definitely had more than the 300hp advertised.
@user-to4kq1qy4j11 ай бұрын
The kedelak driver, please, should not race. Every race he takes, he loses. I think his driving is bad.
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
@@user-to4kq1qy4j can you please type in English? I don’t understand anything.
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
@@GSX455s small tune and you will have a monster
@regal02211 ай бұрын
I went for the M3 xDrive. Made the most sense to enjoy the (no speed limit) on the German autobahn. Plus is absolutely amazing on small and twisty country roads. Thanks for this comparison and congrats on being the only one with it!
@jdl9226411 ай бұрын
I would like to see you switch drivers (especially when comparing manual transmissions) to see if driver's skill affects the results.
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
That’s the dumbest idea. The owner of the M3 would make the BW look better?
@jdl9226411 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegionWhy not? You think all driver's are equally skilled?
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
@@jdl92264 this race went exactly how it was supposed to. Times online are equally.
@BPR-IronCurtain11 ай бұрын
It's not a dumb idea. Some of the people you have on here are absolutely terrible drivers yourself included lol. There is plenty of driver error each video.
@BPR-IronCurtain11 ай бұрын
@@pakaloolakp they are all bad drivers. At least it gives you a real world comparison for when you race on the street lol
@polo343311 ай бұрын
Was you utilizing the no lift shift? It seems you was losing way more ground on each shift.
@MrGierigegast11 ай бұрын
12:52
@inflatedmann5 күн бұрын
He was not keeping his foot on the gas all the way through the video look closely
@jimwallace416411 ай бұрын
Flagman checking in! This shoot was fun to be a part of. 473bhp BMW M3, nah; Its well over 500 crank horsepower. Regardless, it was a fortunate stroke of luck to have a manual M3 join the festivities and make this video happen! Good racing lads. See you in the next one :D
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
You the man Jim!
@nathanaelcole846611 ай бұрын
I wish Sam would give us the MPH at the 1/4 mile mark, that would give a much better idea of real HP. I can tell you my 3950 curb weight RWD Auto ~540 crank hp runs 12.2 @ 116 mph on the street. That 116 is indictive of HP, the 12.2 can be altered by many factors.
@MrJrolon197511 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegionWhy are you such a bad driver? You need to do better.
@nighthawk007711 ай бұрын
@@MrJrolon1975 maybe the Stig would be better
@nighthawk007711 ай бұрын
I thought they were 510hp
@DippinItUp111 ай бұрын
having driven both the ct4 v blackwing is the far more engaging and fun driving experience and the caddys tremec puts the m3s manual to shame.
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
RS3 is better than both nowadays imo!
@DippinItUp111 ай бұрын
@@germanengineering204 not at all. The Audi doesn’t have the chassis of the ct4 v bw nor the big power of the s58 in the m3. I find the RS cars to be pretty boring and mundane to drive like most other VAG cars.
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
@@DippinItUp1 I agree with a lot of what you said, but RS3 is a better all arounder! Better all weather daily driver, and better sound! It's a little better bang for your buck especially when compared to the M3 imo!!
@wesleywalls758211 ай бұрын
@@germanengineering204RS3 is not a comparison being auto only, and FWD chassis to boot.
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
@@wesleywalls7582 Just a friendly comparison! I'm a fan of all three cars, and currently own a new M240i xdrive! Definitely not biased towards Audi!
@thatr34monster4911 ай бұрын
The dude brings some insane races no one thinks of! I love it. This is probably the only official drag race of the CT4 BW I have seen so far. Kudos to Sam ❤
@johnnytorreto819711 ай бұрын
I would do dirty things for a CT5 BW
@monocuco81811 ай бұрын
Seeing those shifts actually makes the race so much more exciting!
@alexoubre777611 ай бұрын
Caddy vs M340 woulda been a better pick
@jeffa.897611 ай бұрын
M340 also does a 12.2
@peterhammer691511 ай бұрын
@@jeffa.8976 because its 4wd
@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr11 ай бұрын
@jeffa.8976 that m3 manual has more topend then a m340i for a fact
@nunnaurbidness320911 ай бұрын
I don’t think you can get the M340 in a manual.
@oddomadic11 ай бұрын
@@nunnaurbidness3209 you can't
@Bernardjoon11 ай бұрын
You should also swap drivers to see if it makes a difference, the m3 owner probably way more used to his car than sam is to the ct4
@memememine111 ай бұрын
No the ct4v is just that disappointing. I test drive one at Laguna seca for a Cadillac event. And this is coming from an ex camaro ss 1le owner I would take every opportunity to praise gm performance. My base 3.4L 911 with 350hp and no torque accelerates basically as fast as the ct4v black wing. The ct4v black wing gets outrun in a straight line by the m340i let alone anything with an s58. The ct4v is a nearly perfect car in every other way it just has a competley disappointing engine.
@SteveBrueck10 ай бұрын
Our ATS-V'S have the LF4 engine like the 4 BW. $2500 in parts, e85, and a tune and you gain 200 whp. We have one making 630 whp and another making right at 700 whp. I bought both cars for the price of one BMW.
@watsonanthony84382 ай бұрын
@@SteveBrueckthere goes your warranty 😅😅😅
@SteveBrueck2 ай бұрын
One was out of warranty when we bought it, and the other one was quickly out of warranty almost as soon as I bought it, and it only had 11k miles.
@TDream-hs1ju11 ай бұрын
I love this match up but BMWs make a lot more power than advertised and they put it down to ground like no other!! Both cars are amazing though!!!
@henzo708711 ай бұрын
Not a lot more 30 hp more than they say. VW/Porsche doing 50/60 hp + than advertised. No chance vs BMW engine is superior than competition
@RiasGremoryS5411 ай бұрын
@@henzo7087 A lot of VW make less power.. BMW are the king when it's come to make more HP than advertised.
@JoseManuel-cq1ot11 ай бұрын
3.0 vs 3.6 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@11x11 ай бұрын
@@JoseManuel-cq1ot You make it sound like 0.6L is a huge difference or something🤦🏼♂️ …nice cars but I’d rather get the CT4 and do a simple tune that wakes them right up with 500+hp and still have $20,000 in my pocket
@manuelthodos592511 ай бұрын
@@henzo7087 the new m2 says 453bhp but, when dynoed it puts down 535whp.
@regal02211 ай бұрын
Sam! We been waiting this video for the longest and you are the only one that have made it happened. Good choice on having the lower HP M3 instead of the competition versions. That cadi looks good and moves good. But you are the first one that put them on a head to head and letting the cars talk instead of doing a “blind review” with favoritism towards any of them.
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
Here to make the impossible… possible
@joeysantillo897711 ай бұрын
The bw launch control does give you wheelspin but i got two 4.2 sec 0-60 runs with it on. (I only tried twice). You can see the power diference once in third gear. I bet the m3 has 40+ more whp than advertised. Lots of people ragging on Sam's skills but i think he was within a few tenths of what the bw is capable of stock in the 1/4.
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
BMW makes 550 bhp. You can see online dynos. People that comment here like that have zero clue, so it doesn’t bother me.
@reloadingdontshoot111 ай бұрын
M3's are just built different. Love the Blackwing but M3's are special
@christopherpickens147811 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate on what you mean by being "built different"
@jikwag341511 ай бұрын
@christopherpickens1478 ones German and ones American. Kidding aside, the power band on these engines even from 80s are just remarkable. Just bc they have similar HP and torque, and even weighs almost the same, this is where true engineering shines. Hell, the black wing has almost 70ft/lbs torque more and still loses
@christopherpickens147811 ай бұрын
@@jikwag3415 cause of a suck ass driver, however I do see your perspective
@jikwag341511 ай бұрын
@christopherpickens1478 I agree... I don't wanna dog the guy bc I like the content but yes, it was super cringing everytime he slams the gear shift.. bro they go into gear even with just a force of your pinky why are you slamming the gears so hard. I would never let this guy drive my car. He'll probably bent the shift shaft
@scottbowers724811 ай бұрын
Do a road course test next, performance is a lot more than just acceleration, every test for road course the Cadillac skunks the Bimmer, that is engineering.
@steadybreeze144311 ай бұрын
I sold BMW and the longer in gear acceleration helps and the elasticity of the engine is its strong point. Apparently the CTSv4 Blackwing has a great chassis and feel..buy what you enjoy.. I still enjoy my 6 speed e90 more then the new cars I drove, different experience. Best pick is the M340 tuned. So much potential.
@StreetGrandTour11 ай бұрын
Great videos Sam, love the Blackwing!
@chrism86911 ай бұрын
the race i always wondered about, cause no one has done it, but really the beimer is just unmatched
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
bimmer 👍
@thomasferrarojr.977210 ай бұрын
That's because it's underrated by 40hp. It's not that amazing. 🙄
@chrism86910 ай бұрын
@thomasferrarojr.9772 wonder if an auto would keep up a bit better, but still would lose
@losttyrant748211 ай бұрын
I think the real match up is a CT5 Black wing, price wise they are much closer
@AE86FTS11 ай бұрын
But size wise, this is the correct match up. The CT5 is the same size as the 5 series
@Tm0n3y76211 ай бұрын
That’s m5 territory lol still gon lose especially to the M5 CS
@EdMiF10 ай бұрын
@@Tm0n3y762 Not on the race track. Look at the Haverty video.
@user-my4xu4gf1z3 ай бұрын
Ct5 blackwing would still lose.
@jurzyjohner4325 ай бұрын
That BMW is just too special of a car and it has its tricks up its sleeve.
@d3j05111 ай бұрын
I'm a BMW fan and current owner but that Blackwing is still an awesome machine, I would love to own one if I didn't need a back seat.
@antongusev267311 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what you pay extra bucks for - a better performance. Thanks for the great video!
@KDbeats1911 ай бұрын
if Im paying that much I want about a bus length not a car & a half
@tri3pleagent11 ай бұрын
Is it better around the track?
@show2ime11 ай бұрын
@@layne4376 GET AN M3 XDRIVE automatic and it's still lights out...
@hassanger812811 ай бұрын
@@KDbeats19 The BMW has a better performance, better handling, better driving experience, better buildquality, better interior, and most importantly a better brand recognition with a car known for motoersporting. Everyone will remember the M3, but a few will recall that CT4 V Blackwing.
@KDbeats1911 ай бұрын
@@hassanger8128 Well there's many generations of the m3 so I wouldn't be surprised, but I get what u mean.
@ms874211 ай бұрын
I had a '23 M4 Comp X drive for 3 months before I flipped (sold) it. It was insanely fast. These current M cars (3/4 series) are very good.
@Turtle-sz7sk11 ай бұрын
Yeah I was gonna trade my rs5 coupe in for one but had to buy a house 😠
@mikewohala603511 ай бұрын
Considered doing that with mine, just did the 1200 mile service but can’t let it go. It’s a monster and a blast to drive. Not much stands a chance stock for stock. I wish the turbo s wasn’t so expensive
@brandonpittman524311 ай бұрын
@@Turtle-sz7skI don’t know if you won or lost but good decision on the home congratulations
@davidwade768111 ай бұрын
Imagine the m8
@mikewohala603511 ай бұрын
@@davidwade7681 not for me but I respect it. My M3 is my daily, I prefer a fast daily and an exotic. Just can’t justify the price of huracans, f8’s etc. the m3 comp x is so capable it has curbed my urge for a super/hyper car. This car literally saved me money lol
@nickns2365911 ай бұрын
Another great race Sam!
@sonofspaceghost_929012 күн бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH!!!!! Not one single flappy paddle gearbox to be found ANYWHERE in this video😊😊😊💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@scottw789511 ай бұрын
BWM is NOT an Xdrive and NOT a competition spec, aka the slow spc.
@joszer11 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised that the BMW is faster, but I am surprised that it's faster by a few car lengths. Impressive. I still love my CT4 BW though
@roboticvenom193510 ай бұрын
The m3 costs much more
@robertburr74078 ай бұрын
The BMW is quick but not quicker unless it is the AWD CS. The driver was pathetic as many of the comments have pointed out.
@user-my4xu4gf1z4 ай бұрын
@@robertburr7407u dumb? The regular m3 comp xdrive or m4 xdrive smoke it as shown here and on car and drivers quarter mile times and 0-60s. U don't need the CS version 😂😂
@AP-go1ks11 ай бұрын
Best race of the year, M3 6 speed manual vs CT-4 Blackwing 6 speed manual, thanks much!
@Bigguns76111 ай бұрын
Sam, what is the fastest 0-100 km/h, the cadillac blackwing or the m240i xdrive g42 ?
@BPR-IronCurtain11 ай бұрын
The 240i is AWD.....what do you think? Lol
@flybyguy145011 ай бұрын
Obviously the bmw was going to win, but the driver still jumped every roll race.
@MS-li5tp11 ай бұрын
Wonder how their times would compare around a track?
@blu_is50011 ай бұрын
4.2 Seconds is nothing...absolutely nothing...to sneeze at. Whoever gets a Blackwing should be quite happy.
@canucktheory327111 ай бұрын
Id rather the ct5-V blackwing for the price and it will hold its value much better and for longer with the 6spd and lt4. You pay m3 money for m5 CS performance and have the manual. I digress. Both cars are pretty awesome and for the price the ct4 is hard to beat.
@hassanger812811 ай бұрын
The CT5 V Blackwing doesn't come athousand mile close to the M5 CS.
@oscarchavez90479 ай бұрын
?? If you watch the Haggerty channel review you will see that on a track the CT5 blackwing is faster than the M5 cs! M5 cs in a straight line will easily win but that not the reason the blackwing was made!
@reginald840511 ай бұрын
Thank You Samuel!
@damianinglish74746 ай бұрын
I just bought a 2020 CT4 V with the 2.7L turbo. And i absolutly am inlove with the car. Been driving it for about 3 months. Its fully loaded and i will say ill wait a few yrs and look to the blackwing. This was a good race to see
@BurtonDynamics11 ай бұрын
Yeah on paper they look similar but on the dyno the BW puts down 415ish WHP and the M3/M4 puts down 500+ whp. Big difference. Also i noticed you didnt use the launch control on the BW. Not sure if the m3 has launch control.
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
We tried with launch control- cars spin like crazy. Result was similar just slower launch. M3 does have it, just finicky.
@fzr100098111 ай бұрын
10 psi more boost so duh
@wesleywalls758211 ай бұрын
We all knew this outcome, but the brilliance of the CT4-V Blackwing is its chassis and manual gearbox, not its outright power. The M3 is fantastic though.
@johnnytorreto819711 ай бұрын
@@layne4376 good excuse for you to suck off BMW eh?
@Bimmer_Bill11 ай бұрын
@@layne4376well he has to come up with some excuse, because slower on the road course too. Surprised he didn’t bring up the nose as another excuse either.
@wesleywalls758211 ай бұрын
@@layne4376 eh, I drive a 2022 Model S, so I would beat both of them. 😎
@S8ER11 ай бұрын
@@wesleywalls7582 plaid or peasant spec?
@wesleywalls758211 ай бұрын
@@S8ER my six-figure “peasant spec” will run a 10.8 at 128 quarter mile.
@stevenconcepcion363710 ай бұрын
Can we do a new accord hybrid vs the 2.0t accord
@LearningFast11 ай бұрын
Crazy how much a manual transmission and RWD handicaps these cars. The AWD and automatic transmission are just so much better for performance.
@user-my4xu4gf1z5 ай бұрын
It's a driving experience ur obv a tesla nerd and u don't have a clue about having fun in a car that takes skill to drive.
@andreyavdeyev11 ай бұрын
Need to flat foot shift so boost doesn't drop off each gear change. Might've made a small difference 🤷♂
@ssanderson1211 ай бұрын
He said he was flat foot shifting...
@Starkiller1248110 ай бұрын
The BW no lift shift seems to not carry the boost well I bet it'll carry boost better with normal shifting
@GrabbaBeer2 ай бұрын
Would have made a big difference
@napraznicul11 ай бұрын
Yeap.. m3 had @510bhp OR that blackwing had @440bhp. Wasn't about shifting at all.. from third gear up.. power cloud be seen.
@cj4107911 ай бұрын
We need S58 vs lightly tuned B58 plz 🙏
@mirshahnawaz13917 ай бұрын
Impressive i like it 👍
@zylixevade246911 ай бұрын
The caddy and the m330i 2023 woulda been better the m3. Como dusted it
No this is a skill issue. He was losing too much speed in each shift
@SMACKTHEBLUE11 ай бұрын
Would take the Caddy based on looks alone.
@Tavarish2111 ай бұрын
Does the CT4-V also come with No lift shift? 🤔
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
Yes
@pokerfred6811 ай бұрын
Shifting your own really slows down both. The autos are seamless and are so much more controlled.
@TrevForPresident11 ай бұрын
And way less fun
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
Little less fun, but still have the paddle shifting involvement, and a car that's quite a bit quicker in every way possible especially dig racing!
@Sle3p52011 ай бұрын
Very exciting matchup! Would like to see this M3 vs a gt350.
@regal02211 ай бұрын
M3 on drag race will pull away, same on anything below 60mph. Anything higher they basically stay the same. On track the M3 with cup tires will have an edge but that GT350 still a beast on a track.
@husnainkhan57178 ай бұрын
Nice work
@chriscab833310 ай бұрын
On the CT4 BW the ECU has a boost cut from factory until its been operating for I think 10 or 15 minutes.
@SteveBrueck10 ай бұрын
No, 180 degree oil temp, same as our ATS-V'S. We have the same LF4 engine, just lots more power
@manthatspeakstruth540211 ай бұрын
MORAL OF THE STORY IS GET YOUR SELF A M
@manuelpiston7 ай бұрын
Ewww no wouldn't touch it with a 6ft pole.
@Bimmer_Bill11 ай бұрын
S58 is the king 🙇♂️
@nick016410 ай бұрын
costs way more so id hope so
@Bimmer_Bill10 ай бұрын
@@nick0164 easily optioned at $85k for xdrive comp. You don’t have to go crazy on options.
@manuelpiston7 ай бұрын
B58?
@Bimmer_Bill7 ай бұрын
@@manuelpiston B58 is the S58’s little brother.
@zeekahlfevil10 ай бұрын
Just a thought.. I know the size difference, I know they're not exactly in the same "class" but everyone who is in here talking about how the BMW is faster and has more power.... Lol at price points... Throw some sticky ties and a lil bolt on power to the caddy and the BMW is toast... Or put it up against the M2 that is actually in it's price point and watch the beemer boys cry... When a car is ~15k more expensive (depending on equipment) it's always going to out perform in some areas... But seriously let's get real, caddy guys will get the caddy, beemer boys will get the m3 good video guys really liked the content.
@Emilthehun9 ай бұрын
I love the cadillac! Such a good look.
@OraneenarO11 ай бұрын
I remember being told by the dealership that ct4 blackwing is impossible to get but now I'm seeing quite a few on auto trader.
@michaelschneider136511 ай бұрын
the 2024 ct4 are getting redesigned inside and it’s a 20yr anniversary i’m hoping to get a black wing or v. next summer
@ramsongewargis873611 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for this one lol
@1u5t1n11 ай бұрын
Bmw's dyno is close to the summit of Everest. That's how they get their numbers.
@IRaoulDuke11 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day Cadillac looks better than an M car.
@Yoomaro11 ай бұрын
BMW has better interior tho
@brainwashed154211 ай бұрын
For that price difference it better…
@oemj714711 ай бұрын
I'm sill waiting for that day to come.
@hassanger812811 ай бұрын
This M3 looks way better. That day would never come.
@bunzaroo11 ай бұрын
Great comparison. As others have mentioned the M3 is underated. I had a 2021 M3 base auto, non X drive. Now I have a 22 Blackwing w carbon package. 10 speed. My honest opinion M3 Quicker acceleration Better looking interior/Materials Better looking wheels Better finish overall Blackwing A tad slower overall/ seat of the pants Rides better w/ magnetic suspension Feels more planted Fit and finish a tad on the lower side I feel it looks better overall than the Beamer, except the wheels. Thinking of doing JB4 / down pipes/intake. Should take me to 600+ at the wheels.
@awhs543511 ай бұрын
you're high if you think a JB4 tune will pump 600 wheel HP lmao. Owned many AMGs and S line audis and a few M cars, legit delusional if you believe some cheap ass tune and some DP will pump out that much more HP.
@George067411 ай бұрын
I had a f82 M4, then an ATSV (now have a 4BW). I feel like your assessment is spot on. I do think the f82 was a great looking car though. I don't know wtf BMW is thinking these days with the styling, the new 7 is an atrocity, and this coming from someone who didn't hate the Bangle era.
@bunzaroo11 ай бұрын
@@George0674 i also had 2 ATSV’s 16’ crystal white sedan and 19’ steel gray coupe. I miss the coupe so much.
@George067411 ай бұрын
@@bunzaroo yeah, mine was a 19 Coupe in Wave Metallic (blue), one of 4 with the 6mt. The BW is the first new 4 door car I've ever bought. I miss the coupe styling, but nice to easily throw things in the back seat.
@bunzaroo11 ай бұрын
@@George0674 only 114 atsv’s were built in 19’ all coupes. Mine was 1 of 13. I really miss the styling of the coupe. 😢
@BPR-IronCurtain11 ай бұрын
This was the expected outcome. I'd love to see the difference in a track race instead. M3 obviously has more hp than listed but surprised how fast it really is. I'd still take the blackwing any day. Looks better and won't be in the shop constantly. Also way cheaper to maintain and more reliable.
@robertburr74078 ай бұрын
Blackwing is faster around a track as indicated. That is what it was meant for.
@MuhammadUmar-ip6ch8 ай бұрын
Good work
@robp69611 ай бұрын
Would be great if you did rs5 vs ct4 blackwing and m3 next
@rokusentertainment578711 ай бұрын
The bmw 340 with a 2 pound boost gain would eat up this slow blackwing 😂
@BPR-IronCurtain11 ай бұрын
Slow? Lol. Why you talking about cars you'll never be able to afford 😂😂 🤡
@LayLoow11 ай бұрын
@@BPR-IronCurtainyou don’t have to afford to talk about them
@pichubball11 ай бұрын
Fact lol
@peterhammer691511 ай бұрын
The M3 looks sooo much better imho.
@ImranManikuj7 ай бұрын
amazing...
@rwczr936410 ай бұрын
Try using the launch control on the ct4 it makes a huge difference than dumping the clutch
@watsonanthony84382 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter. It ain’t beating the m3 😅😅
@derequalizer7262 ай бұрын
I'm from Germany, or rather Bavaria, where BMW is at home. I had a BMW 7 Series and a BMW 5 Series myself. But then I had a Cadillac Eldorado and a Cadillac STS. Cadillac is also my favorite brand. So much elegance, great technology, luxury and beauty combined with sportiness is unique. And still cheaper than the competition (BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi). No other car brand can do that. It doesn't get any better than this. Cadillac!!! 😊👍🏼 Here is my only video that I made myself .... from my Cadillac at the time: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdJli8hpnrPRpI0.htmlsi=j9nYoX4hP325c1rj
@Eddy-0911 ай бұрын
This Cadillac should race an M340i, even then I don’t think it would win.. mainly cause of the advantage from the ZF8 auto. If they were both auto that would be interesting..
@Ghanshyam0000011 ай бұрын
Both cars are awesome but M3 has more power than the ct4 v black wings I got a little confused about both cars having the same Hp and torque but the price difference of 22 thousand probably m3 will have a lot of space inside but I like both of cars thanks Sam have a nice day
@AAly-hf5mg7 ай бұрын
Great
@I_kill_hooez11 ай бұрын
Mpower! going to trade in my M235i for the new M2 i had a C6, CTS v1, and an ATS im good off american cars theyre built cheap once i got my 1st 4series ive been in love with BMW
@carlosanti772611 ай бұрын
Same here traded my 33 Bw Ct4 for a 22 M4 and it was the same price actually, no clue where people are shopping but blackings are over 70k everywhere.
@I_kill_hooez11 ай бұрын
@@carlosanti7726 yeah dude i cant pay money for another cheap american car even tho the cadi looks nice i can already smell the cheap gm parts lol
@carlosanti772611 ай бұрын
@dubfather2754 lol the seats were amazing until you sat in them. These people on here want to save "the 20k" then find out after they buy the blackwing it's garbage..The m3 is 100% more comfortable and drives better(all around)..coming from someone that owned both & also paid the same amount of money for each one,Bmw for the win.
@I_kill_hooez11 ай бұрын
@@carlosanti7726 yeah dude I was stubborn for a while my buddy let me borrow his 3 series one day and it was a wrap lol what you driving currently?
@carlosanti772611 ай бұрын
@dubfather2754 I traded my Blackwing for a manual 2022 M3 . The m3 looks more aggressive, built better,drives better and is faster. I had a hellcat prior to the Bw (manual) and still feel the m3 is just a better vehicle minis the Infotainment. Mopar Infotainment was better than both the Bw and M3.
@1laimmiss11 ай бұрын
Good stuff man
@pompano_jedi17211 ай бұрын
I would trust the s58 more than the gm's v6
@BPR-IronCurtain11 ай бұрын
Wrong engine my guy lol.
@pompano_jedi17211 ай бұрын
@@BPR-IronCurtain lol fixed it
@BPR-IronCurtain11 ай бұрын
@@pompano_jedi172 I gotchu fam lol. To be fair the b58 is probably more reliable than both.
@msblack55711 ай бұрын
Cadillac ct5v or bmw m3 cs?
@darrellhines455311 ай бұрын
The Germans and Italians, do it better
@yousefal-assaf298511 ай бұрын
Underrating power figures? Indeed!
@eddiegarcia156011 ай бұрын
Reliability wise? No.
@dennissmith721411 ай бұрын
They absolutely don’t “do it better”🙄………..no one in their right mind would take a fully loaded CT4 blackwing over a base m3, just doesn’t make sense! 🥱👈🏽
@dennissmith721411 ай бұрын
@@yousefal-assaf2985Right I mean why lie to make your vehicles seem superior.😒
@NS41611 ай бұрын
@@dennissmith7214if your looking to make big power, and have a better build quality + aftermarket support the M3 is the clear winner here lol.
@FLBoyCanScrap11 ай бұрын
Not even close. Brutal
@Speed_and_Power11 ай бұрын
Gotta love how BMW just completely lies about their horsepower numbers
@Durk.2911 ай бұрын
Pls next sact pack vs CT4 blacking wing !
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
Bimmers are just different lol! Unreal how badly that blackwing was getting gapped every single time😄
@tri3pleagent11 ай бұрын
That usually happens when you have more power 🤷🏿♂️
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
@@tri3pleagent yup, but still shouldn't get gapped that badly😄! Bimmers are on another level just admit it bro!
@tri3pleagent11 ай бұрын
If you think that's bad when you're down 50-60 hp...you know what, never mind.
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
@@tri3pleagent You're the one that made a silly comment at me kid! You can guesstimate the power to weight ratio all you want, but it got absolutely destroyed either way!🤡
@tri3pleagent11 ай бұрын
@@germanengineering204 dude...go that way. It's a more powerful car. Add in the guy can't drive stick for shit and there you have it. We all know that car makes quite a bit more than the stated horsepower and the stated horsepower is already 30 more than the Caddy. You sound silly AF.
@MrE.88811 ай бұрын
Pound for pound American muscle will never match German engineering
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
Also dollar per dollar
@S8ER11 ай бұрын
what if your american muscle is german engineered? 🤔
@718snoopymoe_nyc75 ай бұрын
Awesome Video respect to the Caddy But it’s A Bimmer World Love From NYC 🗽Ⓜ️🌎
@rolandb.398911 ай бұрын
Practice shifting gents.
@ernie896511 ай бұрын
Bmw it's more money but you get better engineering and quality 2
@GoBrand0n11 ай бұрын
German Auto Tech is by far Superior That S58 Engine is a monster!!!
@rarelibra10 ай бұрын
what pinhead was driving the Caddy?
@ZeeshanKhan-qm9uv8 ай бұрын
Nice
@lancemannion411311 ай бұрын
I have no idea why Cadillac insists on sticking to the conjunctivitis headlight and taillight treatment? But it didn't look good at its launch and it certainly hasn't gotten better with time, especially the taillights on this thing. It's a decent enough looking car otherwise, aside from the typical GM interior. But even for the price difference, BMW everyday/all day, even with the goofy grill!
@07wrxtr111 ай бұрын
Same - once I drove my girls OLD 535i that's been tuned - I'm a believer! Thing just gets OUT! It's also quiet/comfortable and a tank sorta!
@latino91411 ай бұрын
M3 is too much 💪 for the Malibu
@shariqahmed563711 ай бұрын
ROFL. Car and Driver must be conjuring up additional magic to further anoint the Black Wing as the holy grail of automotive engineering.
@mitnickmitnick137811 ай бұрын
I would love to see the same cars with paddle shift to see the outcome
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
Me too
@KayRSAGaming10 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion m3 would still win
@mehrdadmehrsam364311 ай бұрын
Oh yesss😊😊😊
@pradeepgagajan249911 ай бұрын
We all know BMW'S are fast but you guys noticed all the BMW'S always winning on this guy channel? I think he's a bmw fan boy and the race are rigged, u even had a bmw beating a 1000hp trackhawk which is impossible, you should rename your channel to BMWLegion
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
BMWLegion mmmm now thats worth thinking about!
@RDriver2.011 ай бұрын
He's had some questionabke matchups throughout his earlier tenure. He has his favorites for sure. He seems to be more inline with BMW (he owns or owned one) and they are one of my favs as well but might come down to availability and securing cars etc.
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
@@RDriver2.0 Spot on! We usually pick the highest bidder as the winner . So in this case BMW paid the highest money. So anytime you see a car you love lose, it’s because they paid less money. It’s just fair to pick a winner based on 💰💰💰
@S8ER11 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
😋😉
@jefryherrera324211 ай бұрын
Engine wise, I guess the M3 is under rated and the CT4-V BLACKWING is overated. 🤔
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
I think the BW is on point, and the bmw is underrated
@jefryherrera324211 ай бұрын
@SamCarLegion I definitely appreciates the content Sam! Keep them coming! 👏🏽👏🏽
@lions2084367 ай бұрын
Would have rather seen the Caddy v RS3, but this was still fun to watch
@maskerua677911 ай бұрын
Can you change cars after every race? That would be fair
@kn395411 ай бұрын
I know looks are subjective, but that Cadillac is hideous.
@cbruno1218011 ай бұрын
I’ll take the caddy for 12k less in the states!! It’s a no brainer with 5k in mods I’ll blow by the m3!!!
@nathanaelcole846611 ай бұрын
Hell, a $1000 tune and you are taking it in a roll race. The LF4 is a good engine, not quite S58, but very tuneable as well.
@JadeaRS411 ай бұрын
It's not a competition model. Need more then 5g worth of upgrades. Then you kill the warranty as well. Not with the M3 competition.
@Mike60411 ай бұрын
Who the hell cares about a caddy except for grandpas at a golf course?
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
The Tremec is superbly
@cbruno1218011 ай бұрын
@@JadeaRS4 your 100 wrong my buddy just put down pipes on it and cai and jb4 tune simple tune he’s at 590 whp!! Now hp tuners just released a whole suite of tunes on the pcm and tcm and ebcm which costs about 3k after unlocking the pcm his but will have 660 at the wheels now!! So there you’re 5k in mods
@jikwag341511 ай бұрын
Love your videos. But could you not slam the gears with the shifter? Thats what i used to do when i first learned how to drive stick qhem i was likr 15 hahaha but seriously, love your videos, short, and to the point. Non-biased only facts.
@ImranManikuj7 ай бұрын
It went just as expected, but I’d stilled enjoyed it 👍🏾
@ashtoncarlisle275011 ай бұрын
Good luck putting that CT4 on an actual race track 😂
@wesleywalls758211 ай бұрын
The CT4 BW is literally built for the racetrack.
@ashtoncarlisle275011 ай бұрын
You have one ?
@GeronimoBiggles4 ай бұрын
@@ashtoncarlisle2750 yes i do it gets better lap times than the supra with the b58 also shown by many big reviewers
@ashtoncarlisle27504 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBigglesthat’s probably one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a while. You have no clue about track driving because anyone with experience would know better. Sorry bud but that doesn’t make sense.
@brandonpittman524311 ай бұрын
I was no lift shifting my 88 vw gli 30 years ago lol 100hp