2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer L Towing Review: Hurricane I6 Makes All The Difference

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For 2023, ‪@Jeep‬ updated the #GrandWagoneer with an all-new #Hurricane inline six-cylinder engine and optional 7" longer wheelbase. Both upgrades should make the 2023 Grand Wagoneer L an even better towing machine than last year's model, so we hooked up Jake's enclosed trailer to find out for ourselves.
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00:00 Hello there!
00:53 Long Wheelbase Details
02:02 Hurricane High Output Engine Details
02:32 Third Row Space
03:58 Wagoneer vs Grand Wagoneer
04:58 Towing Specs That Matter: Tow Rating & Payload
06:05 Hello, Mister President?
07:12 Towing Impressions: Acceleration
08:21 C'Mon, Tow/Haul Mode
09:21 Interior Comfort & Visibility
10:16 Wheelbase Helps!
10:54 Trailer Light Issues
12:58 A Rant About Screens
14:25 General Feelings & Final Thoughts
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@zacharyschopper4344 Жыл бұрын

The 6.4v8 just found out is an option. Great Truck my wife and I just bought one not even 3 week's ago.

@mikesanythingoutdoors9153 2 ай бұрын

3 Wagoneer in my family an they tow boats, car trailers an campers with no light issues

@jfaquino 2 ай бұрын

Do I need the trailer braking connection? It is a p2/3? Is it easy to connect to grand wagoner

@jaynorthwoods 6 ай бұрын

Have the same problem with Grand Cherokee L , it’s litttle brother. I think the tow computer is very finicky with even the slightest short. Had to completely rewire the trailer to get it to work, sometimes. It’s the vehicle not the trailer… So I agree 100% with you.

@OutMotorsports 6 ай бұрын

Interesting... we've driven a Grand Cherokee L but not towed with one yet. That'd imply some architecture issue common among the two models or a related software bug. Does your trailer have LED or incandescent lights?

@HemiForReal77 4 ай бұрын

You crazy The SRT 6.4 Hemi V8 is a monster compare to 3.0 Inline 6 twin turbo Hurricane engine I sold a 2022 Grand Wagoneer Series 3 and Sold a Sold order 2023 Grand Wagoneer L series 3 and that Hurricane engine didn’t have chance the SRT blew the doors off

@GoldenK9Campers Жыл бұрын

Yeah.. that payload is pretty low given it's built for 6 passengers and a bunch of cargo. It's like if you had 6 decent sized guys you would be above payload capacity.

@boom5606 Жыл бұрын

What’s the fuel efficiency while towing?

@life_of_riley88 9 ай бұрын

Terrible

@larryman2707 Ай бұрын

Whenever you have a small forced induction engine in a big car and towing, it’s going to be relying on the turbo heavily which means it will drink gas. My 5.7 hemi used to get 3 or 4 miles per gallon better than mileage than my buddy’s eco-boost when towing the same 4500lb boat. There is no replacement for displacement towing.

@Crankinstien 4 ай бұрын

Don’t having a v8 option was a terrible decision. I’ve owned 9 hemi v8 Jeep grand Cherokee and I’m switching brands

@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын

Sounds like it’s just a software or tuning update away from being a hugely impressive vehicle. What are your thoughts after driving this HO version for the standard 420hp / 460tq hurricane engine? Think it’ll also move similar trailers well enough?

@joelucas9953 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Appreciate the focus on the towing capability and objective review. Did you try turning the lights to ON (not Automatic)? I have to turn the lights to ON on my 2014 JGC in order to get the trailer’s running lights to turn on. Might be worth a try.

@joelucas9953 Жыл бұрын

I just saw in the comments for the ‘22 Grand Wagoneer that it was due to a trailer wiring fault.

@OutMotorsports Жыл бұрын

Hey Joe! So we thought it was a trailer wiring fault and it wasn't entirely. The connector was repaired but the problem persisted despite the trailer working flawlessly with 20+ other tow vehicles, including a 2023 Ram 1500 (DT) that we reviewed over New Year's Eve. And this was all with the headlight control manually turned to On, as is safe procedure every time you tow anywhere :-)

@larryman2707 Ай бұрын

Sorry, dude I drove one with the Hurrishame, engine, and there is no replacement for displacement. Bring back the 6.4L

@okcmoparguy724 Жыл бұрын

On the trailer running lights, I've found the factory trailer brake controller to be accurate. Had a similar concern on my DT Ram and when I crawled under the trailer to examine I discovered a harness rub. Repaired the trailer wire and all good now. My old tekonsha controller gave me no indication. Check resistance to ground on your running lamp circuit, possible the Jeeps trailer brake controller has better diagnostics than your normal tow rig.

@OutMotorsports Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the input! But we've had zero issues with this trailer and both factory TBCs and Tekonsha RF TBC using... 20+ tow vehicles in the last three years, including a brand new 2023 Ram 1500 around New Year's Eve. It's something with the electrical architecture and related software on the Wagoneer in particular.

@SunnyWu 11 ай бұрын

What series was the vehicle you showed?

@OutMotorsports 11 ай бұрын

It was a Series II with Premium Group.

@swiper4666 5 ай бұрын

Did it have the HD tow package as well or no?

@jghall00 Жыл бұрын

That payload makes this thing almost useless for towing if you have anyone traveling with you.

@OutMotorsports Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@SunnyWu 11 ай бұрын

@@OutMotorsports What series was this model you showed?

@garyvanderhoeven808 8 ай бұрын

Useless

@zacharyschopper4344 Жыл бұрын

That's a lie the 6.4 v8 is still available even in the long wheel base.

@OutMotorsports Жыл бұрын

Yes, there is an exception that we also discovered - it is available on Series II and Series III Obsidian models BUT only if you get the short wheelbase. Not available at all on the Grand Wagoneer L. The 6.4 is a fine engine but doesn't fit the character of the truck (to me) - the Hurricane I6 is far better in this application.

@jafferm1938 5 ай бұрын

i6 is no slouch. I’ve run a sub 5 second 0-60 in a wagoneer L…

@shanet7511 3 ай бұрын

I'd rather have the 6.4, theres a chance itll make it to 250k miles and thats nice when you're looking at $100k utility vehicles

@mattwood2773 Жыл бұрын

My wife has a 2010 Mercedes GL 450 that also had trailer light issues. To resolve the trailer light issue for towing our boat, which has a trailer with plain ol incandescent bulbs, we either have to: A) use a specific trailer plug adapter, 7 pin to 4 flat which converts the signal, or B) have our SAM (signal acquisition module) re-flashed, because apparently it's set to LED lights. We use the $20ish plug adapter which has worked fine since we started using it. My understanding is, at least Mercedes, but I believe I remember reading other manufacturers vehicles have a setting similar to this where the amount of current sent through the trailer wiring harness is less for LEDs and it also uses something like a closed loop with LEDs (tells us if we have a bulb out & which one it is on the trailer). I know I did a horrible job trying to explain the issue, but it sounds to me like a similar issue with the Wagoneers. We would have some flashing lights like turn signals (or hazards, but not both) and also parking lights (if I remember correctly), but no brake lights, or vise-versa.

@OutMotorsports Жыл бұрын

That's frustrating! And that could make sense. I had everything except running lights. Issue is that I can't convert 7 to 4 pin because I need brake control, not just lights. Strange issue that I haven't faced with any other tow vehicle (except the two Grand Wagoneers I've tested) - even the "DT" 2023 Ram 1500 I just towed with over New Years. So odd.

@trentonatwood2361 28 күн бұрын

$100,000 and no paddle shifters is disappointing

@robevans916 Жыл бұрын

The 6.4 v8 will be the one everyone wants in 15 years. Shame it wasn’t available in the regular Wagoneer

@poormandoescoolthings5673 Жыл бұрын

It is available in a wagoneer. My girl and I just drove one last night.

@kelsycunningham8452 11 ай бұрын

EPA.....Bad hemi. Bad. Mopar.....OK. Let's try more torque and hp.

@life_of_riley88 9 ай бұрын

Was there a car in that trailer? No way a 20ft enclosed aluminum trailer weighs 7000lbs empty.

@OutMotorsports 9 ай бұрын

Yes, an E36 BMW 325is 'Spec3' racecar along with spare wheels/tires, tools, parts.

@life_of_riley88 9 ай бұрын

@@OutMotorsports 👍

@art-is-lazy4509 Жыл бұрын

Really needed to be a 3.5 litre I6, which would have solved many of the issues with the smaller over boosted engine. They should have just bought the Barra 4.0 l6 from Ford Australia, would have solved all their problems, and everyone needs 1000hp Grand wagoner L, ha ha

@OutMotorsports Жыл бұрын

Eh, honestly, the 3.0L Hurricane H.O. is fantastic. No need for more displacement.

@garyvanderhoeven808 8 ай бұрын

Payload is horrible. Him and the trailer he’s probably already the limit I’d never tow with that vehicle.

@OutMotorsports 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's kind of a "tow things OR bring your family" situation, not both. Hard to find big SUVs that do indeed have payload to tow at or near their capacity and let you bring a lot of people along.

@ptjr89 Жыл бұрын

If that's the engine they plan to put on a Ram 1500, it will be a complete failure. Unless they find a way to get more torque at lower RPM. Maybe add etorque to it? Try to get the max torque and low rpm.

@R_00N Жыл бұрын

The 5.7 Hemi makes its power at high RPMs too. The Ford 3.5 ecoboost is probably the best option for 1/2 ton towing. 90% of it's 500ftlb torque at 1750rpm and you get much higher payloads than Ram.

@adr2151 Жыл бұрын

Lol, make sure you don't have a pos trailer when buying a 100k suv

@OutMotorsports Жыл бұрын

Correct, the trailer that has worked just fine on 25+ other brand-new tow vehicles is a "POS" and this is not the Grand Wagoneer's fault at all. Brilliant logic!

@Cornbread-gi6kt Жыл бұрын

Extra space, extra power, extra price. So big Could have added a forth row. There are 3 series choices for both regular and grand Wagoneers. The very Best Buy is the 2022 Wagoneer with series three package and the former 5.7 392 hp engine. Highest towing capacity, less fuel to burn, passengers heft.

@jinchengshi3191 Жыл бұрын

I wish Jeep/ Ram bring back their diesel option! GM is the only one who has diesel full size SUV in the market. I own a new 1500 diesel Denali, nice drivetrain, but the interior in GM even the Denali ultimate is 🤮 A 100k SUV should come standard w/ more features. Ram/ Jeep knows how to make luxury vehicles👍👍👍

@jinchengshi3191 Жыл бұрын

The seats in GM are firm and short, lacking thigh support. And I am a short 5’10” asian😂