Thanks!!!

Yep much better than I captured in the video!

The value factor of the Ninja 400 is hard to pass up really.

What if you can find a good condition used 650 for a fair price?

Depends what you value. I would choose the 400 because I find it more interesting and fun to ride. I’m sure Kris would have a different perspective. It really is something you need to explore from what you are after in a motorcycle.

The 400 just sounds like a scooter 😢 . Thats what kills it for me

The 400 is a parallel twin (as is the 650). Scooter are predominantly single cylinder. They should sound different. If more noise is what you are after then a slip on makes a big difference. I must admit as far as tunes go the parallel twins are probably at the bottom for me. Prefer the sound of a single cylinder scooter.

Good luck!

There was definitely vibes, felt more like approaching the 7k rpm mark that they became noticeable.

It's similar, but very basic in most metrics of comparison, if you're looking at it like that. Just depends how much power you want and the suspension and brake setup you'd be happy with.

@@MotoJournoKris Not taking a pillion so 68 horses is enough.

@@lachlancannard Should be plenty, just depends if the 'more power' bug bites at some point in the future! I tend to think 50-70 hp is an ideal all-round power figure, one-up at least!

@@MotoJournoKris Picking up my 650 this weekend. Should be a nice upgrade from my BMW 310R.

@@lachlancannard Wicked, that'll be huge. Congrats on the new bike!

I'm a bit out of the loop honestly, from what I understand it's certainly possible, it just depends on year model what is involved. I think Dynobike in Melbourne have a video on it, which would be worth watching. Check it out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iaqGmbx-vdmae5s.html&ab_channel=Dynobike1992

@@MotoJournoKris yeah a fair bit involved and costly. I’ll keep it as is so I could sell it later as a LAMS bike. It’s got enough get up and go as is, just wanted a louder exhaust (not too loud)

Yea, it weirds me out when I watch stuff from the US and other parts of the world, so I know what you mean. Especially roundabouts!!!

For 200-300 km I'd be pretty happy going with the nakedbike in the Z650 and losing the wind protection, or just adding a screen. They are pretty similar otherwise.

I'm 180 cm, 32 inch inseam. It was good for me, easy reach to the ground, fairly comfortable for this style of bike.

I'm about 180 cm. 32 inch inseam.

180 cm.

@@MotoJournoKris thank you

Biggest in 650cc category. İts way bigger than honda cbr 650 suzuki 8s ducati and others

lowering kit already installed

Learners bike, restricted power

I'd say the Ninja 650 is still a solid motorcycle. The R7 is far more aggressive than the Ninja 650 as far as ergos differentiating them quite a bit, the SV650 isn't even in the same class, lacking a fairing, even if it is a good value machine with other weaknesses. The CBR650R is probably the fairest competitor and it has more pizazz I think, with the four really helping there. A GSX-8R is a really cool machine, but falls well outside the 650 class, same as the ZX-4R/RR, which probably won't be a common pick for a sports tourer, which is where the Ninja 650 generally lands. The Suzuki is probably the best value mid-capacity sport available though at this stage, unless I've forgotten something, thinking 650s up to 800 cc without any real emphasis on being beginner suitable. But I don't really think peak power is that meaningful as a comparison point, especially just spec sheet figures. Torque and character will be far more important in real world use and the Ninja has the torque covered handily against other 650s and in that comparison absolutely clobbers the ZX-4RR. Obviously some people prefer the revvy nature of the ZX-4R's little four, so that comes down to a preference. The Ninja 650 would benefit from a little something in the character department though, but some people prefer the linear, predictable no nonsense approach Kawasaki have taken and it's been in an enormous amount of motorcycles in various forms. Obviously you've got to pick the important factors or features to you, when figuring out what'll be your best choice.