Oh man, I wish! As much as I love the new 350, I'm going to miss riding the two-stroke.

Hahahahahaha I literally just did this🤣

That's what she........!

Those betas are sick!

I had the beta 300 rr. Great bike. Not one problem ever.

What channel?

@@chrisbigsoldier2180 I linked it in my description: Woodsy

Thank you!

I’ve heard a lot of guys that I ride with that have not been happy with the suspension on the XC models mainly because the air fork. I think if you find the right suspension guy and spend six or 700 bucks they will change your mind about that suspension. The guy that I use has my air forks on this new bike in previous models feeling as good as my explorer forks on the xcw’s with an a kit. I use Marc Hylton out of Hickory North Carolina. His business is called Motovations Racing and I just ship him my suspension when I have to have it serviced but it is absolutely worth the money. I think shipping cost me about $40

Right on man, I have no regrets! The 350 is a great combination of power and nimbleness

I made exactly this change and have been happy with the 250-xcf. The only area where I've struggled is technical riding where I've boiled over the radiators. I'll install a fan but overall I'm happy. It took a lot of practice to fisrt be in the correct gear and understand how to prevent flame outs. Apparently the vortex eco for the xcf solves a lot of these problems.

Thank you!

I think you bought a great bike to get better on. I've only ever heard great things about those Beta 200s.

Thanks I am enjoying riding it for sure

Thank you! A 300 two-stroke or something like this 350 would feel like a bicycle after riding that Africa twin! So many great bikes choose from. I just need to win the lotto so I can buy 50 dirt bikes and quads and hit the trails 365.

@@ThomperBeThompin Ditto! Killer edit on this too brother, you present really well...

Just own them both!! Lol. If I could only own one bike for Enduro, hard Enduro, single track type dual sport. I would stick with a two-stroke. I think the fourth stroke is more fun when you can get some speed or some flow but if it’s technical hard Enduro nothing beats the two-stroke plus I think you would cook a four stroke engine if it was too nasty

I am curious about the bike as well. I suspect when I replace my 300 xcw Tpi it will be with a new XC

Check out dirt bike channel for xc300 stuff, he rides a lot of different bikes but the xc 300 is one of his favorites

Oddly enough, this year I'm looking at going back to a two-stroke! I wish I could have a 300 XCW and a 350 XCF. They are my two favorite bikes

Yeah, i still have my TPI xcw. better at super tight stuff@@ThomperBeThompin

@@ThomperBeThompinTBI 300? Whats making you switch back?

@@westcoastfrisco I actually made a video about that! Check it out!

Hey now, I didn't want to create too many converts too quickly! Had to silence that thump! ; )

Lol they all sound awesome. If I was faster I would actually hit the rev limiter and that would definitely sound cool

Yeah I noticed the same thing. Most of the pros for these style of races run the four strokes. Both are great platforms and I suppose it really comes down to whatever you prefer individually. Maybe one day I'll be fast enough to come race with you up in b class!

All the top pros run 2 stroke.

@@paulwatson5965 what? We must have different definitions of ‘top pros.’

@@paulwatson5965 for sure, except in the National Enduro series. They're all on four strokes. Just depends on the discipline of riding.

@@rnwetherald I don’t think you get more top pro than Jarvis and Bolt….🤔🤔🤔

I think it’s a blast having two different bikes I agree

That's awesome! Just goes to show you that both bikes can be great.

I haven't done the top end yet on the two-stroke. It's only got about 61 hours so I've got at least 20 more to go before it's due. The two-stroke doesn't rev nearly as high as the four stroke so you definitely have to shift a bit more to stay in the power band. That said, the power band is intense! Once it starts to rev out you definitely have to grab another gear. I'm no pro, that's just my two cents.

@@ThomperBeThompin Thanks, how many acres do you have? I love WV, went last year to do white water

Bout 30 - good amount to ride some single track, but I wish it was 330!

The thumper just makes you want to go fast lol

No I never ended up doing that. I did get the sag as close as possible to my full riding weight with gear though. But I do understand that stiffer springs for my total weight and riding style could have definitely improved things.

@@ThomperBeThompin Great video, but yes, having the bike properly sprung for your weight is THE most important thing to be doing on bikes. Going to far into the preload can tend to really screw things up too! I live in the interior of British Columbia, and I currently ride a 20 KTM XC-W. I have friends that ride both 2 and 4s. And oh man any time I get on the 4 platform it just makes me itch to get one again! Theyre so much fun to ride in the faster more open kind of trail stuff.

Thanks man! That's a sweet pair of bikes you've got there.

@@ThomperBeThompin I was close buying a Xcw but I’m short and the Beta fit Bette r. I looked at the xc as well and liked it too. Lots of people including Billy Bolt run yer new bike his is the Husky version I think, anyway nice bike later ThomperbThompin.

I ordered the Tusk fan from Rocky Mountain MC/ATV. I went to the parts page for the "2023 KTM 350 XC-F" and they had a Tusk fan available. I highly recommend it. The instructions were very clear and I only ran into one snag during install. The fan comes pre-mounted to it's own bracket, you then mount this whole piece to your radiator. However, even after mounting in the lowest position, my gas tank still wouldn't seat because it interfered with one of the mounting bolts. Easy fix though, I took out the mounting bolt and used a zip tie. They're instructions warn you of this - that you may need to raise or lower your fan b/c of gas tanks. I also recommend using the "safety wire" they recommend to help secure the tabular sensor into the fins. I'll make a YT Short and post it, clarifying what I mean.

Thank you, I must have looked before it was available

@@appalachianboundenduro Sure thing. Tusk also "just" released a full-coverage skid plate for this model too. They beat AXP to the punch, so ordered the Tusk

I put a trail tech fan on my 23 250 xcf you need to get the fan for the 16-18 model year bikes and it fits perfectly.

@@joeb10p69 that's a great tip, thank you

I really think you would be happy on either a 350 xcf or the 300XC. They have extremely similar if not identical suspension and both have really good power that's suitable for trail riding or the track. Being that you're coming from a 4-stroke, you might like the 350 over the 300, but I think honestly, you would enjoy that one tremendously as well. The two strokes are naturally more forgiving in harder, more technical terrain because you can lug them lower, but the 350 has a surprisingly smooth power curve and can be lugged low with proper clutching. The 350's power curve is a thing of beauty because it revs out to almost 14,000 RPM to give you insane horsepower, but the torque is not overwhelming below that and it is very linear. Honestly, I think you'd love either bike and be super happy. I think they're on the same frame as well. The best thing is you cannot go wrong.

@@ThomperBeThompin thanks I appreciate it greatly! Do you think the stability/ planted feel is similar or might and day difference?

@@worldwide1873 I personally think they are pretty similar. You might have a more stable feel through the choppier stuff on the four-stroke because of the added engine braking and how it can calm the rear end down a little bit. I think they are equally nimble. All that said, I'd be interested in what a more talented rider than myself would have to say between the two platforms.

Totally agree, and the course I just raced today probably would have benefited from being on a two-stroke.

Haha! Very true

Me too! Might revert back as well, we will see.

This new bike is an XC-F, not the XCF-W (not sure if you meant "W" or if that was a typo). I absolutely LOVE this XC-F still. I still agree with my initial thoughts that there are situations where the 300 XC-W was superior, but if I had to choose one or the other, I'd still take this 350 XC-F. I love the power delivery, the revs, the suspension, etc. It's tough to explain, but I look forward to trail rides (mostly hard charging) more-so with this 4-stroke than the 300. I also prefer the stiffer suspension of the XC and XC-F models over their "W" enduro brothers. The 300 XC-W is still an incredibly fun bike, no doubt about it, but for my riding preferences, I prefer the XC-F.

@@ThomperBeThompin Thanks for the reply, no, was not a typo, wondering your thoughts on that xcfw with the wide range. First dirtbike, will just be doing trails and open desert riding, no racing. Do not want to feel like I have outgrown this bike because of the wide range version, and since it’s great lugging and low speed, I don’t know why more people don’t get them, is it the suspension? Only the first two gears are different, correct,

@@RC.56 My understanding of the differences between the Enduro bikes and the cross country bikes is mostly of their two strokes. It primarily boils down to softer suspension for the enduros, and a lower first and second gear as well. I believe the differences are very similar for their four-stroke models. I think if you were primarily doing trail riding, exploring, and more all around type stuff then the w will be better. If you intend to ride aggressively (hard charging) and/or do some jumping, then the model with the stiffer suspension, like the XCF, will be better in my humble opinion. Definitely ask around though, I'm just one dude and not as experienced as a lot of these other guys. I would love to own both bikes, but still to this day if I could only pick one, it would be the setup with the stiffer suspension. I feel it does not beat me up too much on leisurely trail rides and it's there when you want to go hard.

So a year down the track, what's the verdict? Still prefer the 350?

Hell yeah. I'd love to ride more moto.

Owning a smoker in the thumpers just the perfect combination. You’re probably like me and you Ride whatever your mood is at the time

Mostly VA and WV

I live in Westminster, MD trying to find good places to ride within a 2 hour drive. There is absolutely nothing around me.

Ultimately, yes I do. But I still LOVE riding ATVs. There's just so much more rider input required on a dirt bike.

I like to ride anything in the dirt and mud

Fo sho, great bikes!

Awwww crap. That was probably me

Thanks!

Truth!