Valterri and Lance broke formation, where are the penalties FIA!?

Only race I never watch every season. Glad I didn't this year again.

That was a race??? Wow, somehow I feel cheated. Thank god I didn't spent a dime to watch some of it. I must confess I got bored and went visit some friends

@@razielbeoulve819 Don't forget Sergeant. He also made an overtake after the first laps after the starts.

@@Kraiden85best qualifying, worst race. Every year

Yeah, when they took Valteri off track with a hook, Q1 was it.?.. You know that's barely a crash... Wonder if that will count?

acting like ferrari has been so bad since Fred came in

@@bastiian13I agree, Fred has got something really good going on here with Ferrari.

​@@bastiian13he improved but it's still Ferrari. They haven't shown that this isn't warranted

The red flag was so lucky for Charles. If Carlos is not splitting the McLarens they could have picked him off with an undercut.

​@@gene7887even Max couldn't pass George. 77 laps parade.

Between the lack of impeding penalty and the red flag reset Sainz was the luckiest mofo in the whole race.

To be fair he is been so unlucky with penalties, the stewards do nit like this guy. Not to say that they were not deserved but some were harsh. He just got to see the light of day

A complete joke. No team but Ferrari gets that break.

Winners? That was total bullshit, that he was reinstaled on p3

@@ADAKAR83it’s just the regulation though. Zhou was still in sector one when the red flag was brought.

At 180km??

Monaco

Cope

💯

A very quick parade. Zero passes in the top ten for the whole race.

No, there are more overtakes in free practice. This was just a bunch of formation laps

@@purple4395I was gonna say, the practice sessions were actually way more exciting to watch. 77 formation laps is an accurate way to describe the race.

Race? This was a parade… a snoozefest

​@@belingsI was on the edge of my seat worrying about whether the monaco curse strikes again and the camera cuts to Charles being in the wall

...say that again without crying! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Everyone else moves there because they want to be his neighbor 🤗

Monaco 1-2 by the Leclerc family, no less.

2nd. It’s been done before.

@@f.kieranfinney457 that's not what I said tho haha

That’s why I rate Alex incredibly highly. He outclasses Crofty in every respect. Outclasses ALL commentators.

I recognize Jacques skills as a commentator, but I can’t stand his voice.

And yet we get Crofty saying he was a "cut above the rest"

agreed i was pouring tears lmao

2021 abu dahbi with crofty i think beats it

you got a timestamp for it?

20:42 about K Mag and 24:19 about the messed up penalty points system

@@hamz__zzz thanks bro

Blink and you’ll miss it.

Tommy is totally wrong in the Kmag/Perez incident.

FIA rants take time as well as the yearly Monaco discussion and the bad TV Broadcast

48 minutes talking about Leclerc, 4 minutes about it being boring, 2 minutes about Piastri

The more boring the race is, the longer the podcast episode is lol

@@patricktho6546 Actually the TV broadcast was fine... it was hardly a challenging broadcast anyway.

just my two bits: why 54 minutes? perhaps because there's much to consider and they have their considerations! I am begging the boys (I'm old I can call them boys) for time stamps tbh because I want to be able to give my attention to the fullest and combine it with all the things I have to do at the same time !

RBR's pretty much sucked too

Ocon tried to claim for Alpine and would have if he had knocked Gasly

By the bills, It's almost as if Mick and Nikita are still driving for HAAS.

They need to just sell to Andretti

Since I have both Haas drivers and the constructors on my fantasy team I ended up with -90 points

Lmaooo you cooked

Hold op... That might work. Great idea

Make them race superkarts. As fast and nuts. Absolutely mental things and they can go multiple karts wide.

Or if they have to be in F1 cars, make it a team pursuit or time trial, so overtaking isn't required.

On point, and the Rules in F1 state that:"Both the overtaking and leading car have the responsibility to avoid a collision. This means overtaking at a safe time and place, and the leading car giving space when possible." Meaning that Perez should have left space enough for the other car to "exist"

For sure, their excuses of kmag having penalty points and the even sillier you shouldnt go for an overtake in monaco, neither of those are actual factors. It isnt illegal to overtake on a track

It wasn't a 50/50 incident.

@@sheldoniusRex Perez should have left the space according to the FIA rules. He did not.

K-Mag did not have the energy available to pass Checo on that straight no matter what he did. There was nothing inside the known laws of physics which would have made that pass on. He did not have the momentum, horsepower, or battery necessary to achieve a pass inside of the length of road available, even if Checo had given him room. That pass was NEVER on.

Rule #2: if you see two alpine battling in front of you, back down. If they are behind, push like there's no tommorow

Especially when you're in a red bull and should be nowhere near a haas anyway

They will never learn.

The BARRIER made me do it!!!

I was gonna time stamp that and write “the worst moment for Matt” 2:55

And they're completely wrong on the Kmag/Perez incident!

​@@brianrasmussen2956 They're wrong quite often... I don't like a lot of their views but I like them they're entertaining and genuinely nice people from the looks of it just different viewpoints

@@randallsheriff3529 I also find Matt and Tommy entertaining. Why I follow them. And I'm not afraid to help them, when they're wrong. The FIA rule is very clear on this. The stewards chose to give Perez the benfit of the doubt.

Best comment for this podcast. Genius!

😂😂

In one word or less - NOPE

AInt that slightly technically incest ...

Isnt Formula E absolutly wreckless with shunting each other and such? If F1 did that every driver would get 11 penaltypoints so they dont need to ban then? Well this might work!

Saw this elsewhere, and don't know how you swing it in a cost cap era, but one solution is to have a fully different set of design specs for Monaco or similar circuits (Hungary etc) with just a much smaller car and less aero. It's an extreme measure but mandating 3 pit stops or bringing back refueling don't address the lack of overtakes. The only thing that will is racing physically smaller cars.

@@gene7887 Someone in a coment above suggested super Karts. Now hear me out, it doesn't sound that bad lol

In one of the vintage races, 1960 cars, Adrian Newey pulled off a beautiful pass in entrance to the hairpin that was amazing. Can not be done in today’s cars.

Wouldn’t it be awesome to have a 1950 “Fangio Alfa Romero” spec car (but with modern safety features) that every single driver uses. Yeah, it’s a huge expense, but after the first year you’d only need to replace parts that break, etc…

Agreed. Perez saw him and didn’t change trajectory. Perez is useless

Spot on!. I can only assume the MAG busters haven't seen either A: The helicopter shot B: The Perez onboard (seeing him looking in his mirror - a lot) C: The Hulk onboard, or D: all of the above.

True. He even appeared to steer to try and squeeze Kmag. Both drivers have some share of the responsibility for that mess.

I actually don't see how it was a stupid move. If Perez had left the space he should have, the crash would not have happened. Perez knew he wouldn't be able to repass Kmag, so he chose to "close the door" So in hindsight wasn't that stupid aswell, when he knew there was another car there?

😂😂😂😂😂cry more. Every driver and pundits thinks Kmag is as stupid as your hypocrite comments supporting him

Really? I have seen zero racing. What a shit show.

Correct! Perez should have left space, instead he closed the door. Resulting in the crash wich was totally avoidable.

As soon as I seen Leclerc win I thought the same thing 😂👌

Dude seriously… whenever something happens to Leclarc, I’m always like: “Matt’s gonna love/hate this” (depending on if things are going well or awfully for Charles Leclarc)

You forgot: half the field clockwise, the other half counterclockwise.

And so say the rules of F1 :"Both the overtaking and leading car have the responsibility to avoid a collision. This means overtaking at a safe time and place, and the leading car giving space when possible." Like Alonso said:" All' de' time you 'ave to leava'da space"

Exactly. They need to watch Davidson and Button on Sky. Perez knew what was going to happen and carried on…

According to the FIA rule, it's more Perez than Kmag. there was a gap that perez chose to close, but the rule states you MUST leave enough room for the overtaking car.

I have been saying this ever since I watched the race. Jenson got quite tight lipped after they saw Perez checking his side mirror multiple times. Not only that but I really got flashbacks to when Perez pushed Ocon into the wall during the opening lap at spa years ago.

Yes. I totally agree. Smaller, lighter and narrower cars. Challenge is, that with all these safety features and regulations, it is going to be difficult. But if they put less emphasis on aero and more on mechanical grip, then it should be feasible.

@@appelslice Even so, aero needs to play a far lesser role for that to work. Smaller won't make much of a difference in my opinion. And yes, I'm not an aerodynamicist so it is only a guess.

correct, there is no 'mandatory pitstop' anywhere in the sporting regulations. So if you can use both of your chosen compounds via a red flag, you have satisfied the requirements. Could easily be fixed by making a stop under racing conditions a requirement, e.g. can still change for safety reasons but must complete a stop under racing conditions during the grand prix

Kmag got penalized in Saudi for the exact thing Perez did here

Wrong opinion, not hot opinion.

@@Liam94Smithyou are incorrect

The rules are clear, they state that:" Both the overtaking and leading car have the responsibility to avoid a collision. This means overtaking at a safe time and place, and the leading car giving space when possible." Meaning, Perez needed to leave enough space for the other car to "exist".

@@Liam94Smith You might need to check the rules, and the check Perez's onboard. He just slammed the door on Kmag, although the rules clearly state he needed to leave space for the overtaker.

First off all, he also has Hulk on his back... Magnussen going for a non existing gap is just poor judgement. Even though Perez shouldn't be there at that moment at all, this crash was definitely not on him. The fact they've punished Ocon for taking himself out, and not Magnussen...shows exactly what's wrong with F1. A weak and inconsistent bunch of money grabbers penetrated the heart of the sport, and it's dying because of it. The FIA is a disgrace, groomed by the murrican greedfactory owners.

@@Snaakie83they didn’t punish Ocon for taking Perez out, that was a separate incident. Hulkenberg wasn’t alongside Perez, he was a good bit behind so Perez had space. In Monaco there is no gaps, so whenever there is a chance for a overtake you kinda have to go for it. MAGNUSSEN went for it, got his front wheel AHEAD of Perez’s rear wheel, which would be considered alongside in the rules, and then Perez decided to just squeeze him out. And before you say, no, at that moment in time MAGNUSSEN could not back out because that would cause a incident too.

@@Snaakie83 If the gap was non-existent, he would’ve crashed into the back of Perez instead of making contact front wheel to rear wheel. He was far enough along on a straight to demand space on the racing lane per the racing rules. You can see from Hulkenberg’s onboard that he was fully behind Perez, so saying he had to close the door because of Hulk is nonsense, crashing with Magnussen was clearly the bigger danger.

Why would he? Well… he might of finished if he wasn’t a dumbass

The Rules state that:" Both the overtaking and leading car have the responsibility to avoid a collision. This means overtaking at a safe time and place, and the leading car giving space when possible." Meaning Perez should have left space enough for Kmag to "exist"

Only do qualifying

@@jacoblawton6350 Agree. Basically make it a time trial.

Double qualifying but also double boring formation laps being called races. No thanks.

Just for Matt: Leclere could only win a GP where he didn’t need to defend, because it was impossible to race. He’s still washed until he can show he can actually race and win a GP. Not parade lap for 78 laps. 😛

So it isn't racing

@@Snaakie83 No, that's why lots of people called it 'fp4' or even 'procession'. It seems everybody is happy for Shaarl's win, but hated the race itself.

@@Snaakie83 Not much no. Not when you compare racing in Monaco to almost any other track. Monaco has the least overtakes in the entire calander, and that is not due to racing.

That's one reason to tip your hat to Yuki this week. Albon spent most of that race .5 seconds behind Yuki and he never flinched.

Hard one. Similar situation in Miami with Sargeant. K-Mag had bit his car next to another and there is a crash. Or he got there then unfairly punished. Or he was lucky he was not punished here and that would have resulted in a race ban (too many penalty points).

This was my thinking too. Definitely more Kmags fault but Checo had the entire left side of the road

KMag hit the wall before when he still had space. after that he turned left and basically into Perez. also, Perez was clearly in front and on a racing line. have you seen that part, how all of the drivers in front were following exactly the same line as Checo? how much to the left he would have to move to fit Magnussen there? maybe he should just stop on the side and let Kmag through because he decided to go for a gap that doesn’t exist

Perez was entitled to defend. Now you always have to leave space no matter what? Kmag was not alongside. It was 100% his responsibility to back off when the door closed.

@@chamalinnino Perez is not entitled to push another car into a wall. It’s a straight so Magnussen had his car sufficiently alongside.

I 100% felt that same way. It was a dumb move, absolutely, but they judge lap 1 incidents differently than the rest of the race and I think it is what it is.

100% agreed

Perez doesn't exactly have the best spatial awareness either, his race craft has never been great.

​@@billgross1719that was a dumb move for both Kmag and Checo. How come Kmag expected to get through ? How come Checo expected he was alone on the track on the first Lap ?

@@benoitm9199 he didnt expect to go through. He expected to use the space available to stay more ahead of everyone behind him. Use your fucking brains.

So what you are saying is that during a dry race you are mandated to make a pitstop? 🤔 I understand what you mean with what you are saying, but it's two sides of the same coin. The problem is that if you change your tyres during a red flag it counts as your mandatory tyre change (aka pitstop) and that killed this grand prix

THANK YOU! I'm glad someone else has a brain. There's no 'mandatory' pitstop. That's a really bad way to phrase it. You must use two different compounds during a dry race. The easiest solution would just be to continue to allow teams to change tires under a red flag, but only to the same tire compound. Thus still requiring a green/yellow stop.

@@cthomsen4 No. Its not the same coin. Someone does a pitstop, but stays on the same compound, they still haven't satisfied the rules. Saying there's a mandatory pitstop, when someone's already pitted, makes no sense whatsoever. Additionally, the top 5 in fact, never pitting during Monaco.

​@@cthomsen4if they wanted to make a mandatory pitstop rule, it would be just that. It is a dual compound rule because that is what they intended. In most situations, it has the same effect, but imagine how happier Hamilton would have been if he had been allowed to use the same compound as he started with. Matt and Tommy dropped the ball on this one. It is important to be precise about the rules, especially if you want to have a rant about why the rules are there in the same conversation.

Perez doew also drift to the right, DESPITE having plenty of left hand space. Yes, it's a terrible decision by KMag, but Perez absolutely also has to take some of the blame.

yeah, if you check out Jolyon Palmer's excellent analysis and footage, you can see Checho clearly checking his mirrors, and he decided to kept right to try and block him, which with any other driver would have caused them to back out in self preservation. It would be interesting to total up the damage bill this year for all the shunts Kmag has been in. Still like KMAG as a driver though 'elbows out' and hope he gets a seat for next year.

I think if Lewis gets put in a fast car, no matter who he’s against he’s probably gonna get preferential treatment cause Ferrari can count on Lewis do deliver in a quick car They won’t decide before the season starts, they’ll let it play out and see who’s quicker but I reckon it’ll be close probably Charles quicker in Quali and Lewis quicker in race

There are no reasonable Lewis fans

There were only 16 cars and Stroll, Hamilton, Verstappen and at least one sauber pitted so its 12 at nost but then everyone until yuki in P8 (i think was lapped) so only the top 5 could have gottenthis record

@@Leon-mg3zd Logan started on hards, switched to different hards under the red, and pitted again. But yea, only the top 7 were on the lead lap, and Max/Lewis obv pitted.

@@Leon-mg3zd your right, but people on the no stop strategy that got lapped still technically beat the record from previous races

Kmag should have a race ban. It’s unfathomable that he doesn’t.

Racing incident, both kmag and Perez could have done something to avoid that.

@@phillydelphia8760 no pal I don’t agree and you have your view on it which is fine. But it’s not a straight, the walls are curved, it was never on for Kmag to do that. There’s so many factors that Kmag should have realised. Kevin Mazapin won’t be driving for Haas next year so at least there is that.

@@Gaelic-Rex I don't think he was going for the pass there, that's the thing. He's forcing space to make the move further along. Perez is obligated to not force someone into a wall, deliberately or not. This is very similar to kmag when he put the squeeze on Albon, not deliberately, but because of how the track is shaped. He got punished there, but Checo escapes any penalty here. So I don't believe a new standard should be applied here because one of the drivers is in a front running car and the other not.

@@phillydelphia8760 Yeah Kmag could have done something to avoid it but didn't causing the crash...

Ocon wasn't able to take the penalty, because he was already out. In that case it is converted into a grid penalty for the next race. That's why, last year, RB put checo back in the car for 2 rounds and a pitstop even though he already was out of the car for 15 minutes. I was thinking why Alpine was not doing that same thing, but probably the car was more damaged and wasn't able to drive.

Charles winning is the only thing that made that race memorable. I don’t anybody is begrudging that.

I've only seen people who claim the championship to be back on, also including Lando. I've only seen "3/4 way fight for the world title" claims 😂

@@youngjedi774 Really? I've only seen "Charles is 30 points back, championship back on!"

I still believe Max is up there. Because Monaco is a different track altogether, we can't make predictions based only on Monaco's results. Surely, Red Bull is gonna struggle with bumpy tracks in the future but there will be opportunities to overtake at least. I'm sure had there been an opportunity to overtake in Monaco, Max would've ended up higher up than P6. We are talking about Max Verstappen and he is much more than just the car. No other driver drives the car to its limit like Max does (Imola for example). Surely Ferrari and McLaren has improved their cars but it also comes down to the driver and the driving style. McLaren was the fastest car in Imola but Max still managed the win. Also, Red Bull is facing some issues with bumps and kerbs and there are so many upcoming track where they will still be dominant. We'll see that in Barcelona for sure. Lastly, Monaco is just a different track altogether. It's basically where you qualify is where you finish too. But let's not forget that's not the case with any of the upcoming tracks.

@@zainab5424 McLaren was not the fastest car in Imola. Sure it was faster in Quali but Max had a tow there. On the mediums the Red Bull in Maxes hands was lightyears ahead, and in Lando's hands the McLaren on hards was lightyears ahead of Max in the Red Bull. Overall, when it came down to it, they were pretty much identical. And, one other driver drove their car to the limits like Max did in Imola, and that was Lando. He was the absolute knife edge of that McLaren's capabilities. He was getting oversteer every other corner yet still made 8 seconds in less than 15 laps. Imo, Max is a great driver and over the course of a season has less off days than Lando, but Lando is hot on his tail now. His consistency is up there with the best on the grid and has been since 2021. And now he's shown he can push his car to the limit and dominate while winning races when he needs to. Lando and Max is 100% going to be a fight we see a lot more often, perhaps more than we see Max and Charles. I find it weird how much you praise Maxes driving without addressing the fact that Charles was actually a better driver at the start of 2022, his racecraft was better, he was more collected and sensible too. As well as the clear fact that Lando is (at the very least) on his day as good as Max, sometimes even better. Anyways, no one but Max is winning the title this year. But depending on which teams takes the step forward in the winter, Lando or Charles could both end up world champ in 2025. Also, bumps and kerbs werent anymore present in Miami or Imola than they will be in any other non-street circuit for the rest of the calendar, Barcelona and Canada included. McLaren matched them in those scenarios, no reason they cant in any other track on the calendar. McLaren can handle the bumps and kerbs at Monaco, and be right there with the Red Bull in Imola and faster in Miami. With Lando at the wheel there's no reason they can't challenge Max and Red Bull for the forseeable future.

@@bill4665 I get your point regarding Lando and yes he has been performing very good. And not to forget Oscar too. But them saying that championship is back on with between charles and max with charles 30 points behind is a bit of an exaggeration especially this early on the season. What i meant to say is that future tracks are not gonna be like Monaco where Charles normally is dominant (especially in qualifying). We can say constructors championship is on but even for that there’s a long way to go. Max has been getting 8 consecutive poles in a row and then winning too. We can’t make championship predictions based solely on charles’ Monaco performance and Lando’s Miami. To be in a championship fight, consistency is key and whether any of these teams have it, we’ll have to wait. There are still so many tracks to come where i have no doubt that Red Bull again will be favorites and few where they might suffer from bumps/kerbs. Despite McLaren and Ferrari improving immensely, 25 might be their year but don’t think it would be this year. Still a very long way to go. Lets see

According to the rule, Perez should've left space for a car to pass that he knew was there. I agree with the stewards to call a racing incident. However, I'm conviced that Checo slammed the door.

@@brianrasmussen2956 Yes, he saw Kevin in his mirrors and yet continued to the right, so in a way he could have avoided the colision. On the other hand, I understand that he didn't want to give up the position.

Max will be the favourite but it should be close. Perez needs to really up his game or he's gonna cost red bull the title with just how well Ferrari and McLaren are doing. Having two solid drivers is really making a difference.

You have to watch the incident again. To start Kevin is not even close to be on front. Checo can move once to either side to defend. Mag touched the wall (rear right) and pushes into Checo. There is no question it was Kmag’s fault

​@aaroncontente9153 they can move once to defend yes but they have to do the move before the car is in line for a overtake and not at a last moment to defend it. Also prefer did move over towards the left at a late moment and by the time he did it was to late. Perez should of left space but also K mag also could of backed out and that's why it was a racing incident and nothing more.

Kmag had no reason being there especially with hulkenberg on the outside

@@vegetanotavailible4972 why not is he not allowed to race. The gap was their but he also should of backed out when he didn't get the run on perez. But perez knowing k mag was there and looked in he's mirrors why moving over to close the gap of was silly as well. Perez had the better car and would of easy out dragged k mag up that hill but he decided to defend it and move over giving k mag no space and that put them both out. Both driver's made errors and both driver's got it wrong. Racing incident

@chriscollins550 I understand where you are coming from on this point but at this track that gap was always going to disappear. even if Perez did see him (mirrors don't show that much) and gave him some space, that space would disappear a few meters later. It's a silly risk to take. Similar to Max in spa many years ago or Leclerc on Vettel

No. It was a horrible move. A desperate dive bomb against his TEAMMATE. This was never going to work. With the way he threw his car into the corner he would have always understeered wide.

I don't mind if they change the compound, but they should 100% still have a required pitstop during the race.

because dnf and costing the team millions is better than finishing 16th?

According to the FIA rules, Perez should have left space for Kmag to exist. So Perez should have been penalized but the stewards decided to give Perez the benefit of the doubt and say he just f-ed up.

FIA rules state :"Both the overtaking and leading car have the responsibility to avoid a collision. This means overtaking at a safe time and place, and the leading car giving space when possible." So Perez did the opposite of what the rules state.

He's actually scared of geese

Perez was more to blame the rules of F1 state that: " Both the overtaking and leading car have the responsibility to avoid a collision. This means overtaking at a safe time and place, and the leading car giving space when possible." Meaning Perez must leave space for the overtaking car. Instead he slammed Kmag into the barriers.

True