Sir, you spent a lot of time saying how SLOW the RVX 32 is; but you failed to clarify that - based on your own testing results, even with it's "buttery smooth draw", it was actually FASTER than the Alpha X 33 and only slower than the Lift 33 by 3 FPS. Full transparency for my Prime Peeps - and the 80 # limbs smoke them both...but hey, I really enjoy your reviews and learn a lot. Keep up the great work....not sure about the vibe thing, more data the better I suppose.

Fine looking critter getter!!! Packed with features, Prime is a well rounded Bow builder.

I held a prime a few weeks ago for the first time. I was seriously impressed. Hoyts new cam mod though.... I'm seriously looking at hoyt this year. I love my solution ss though. Gotta start a collection.

Bow speed shmow speed. I'm just happy to have flagship bows. Im greatful for whatever speed my setup gives me.

The grip was the main selling point for me with Prime. It is insulated and very repeatable. I have never had a better shooting bow than my Prime Inline 3. Lastly, you are shooting at ATA parameters not IBO. Stop saying IBO. Stop dinging bows for being below IBO if you are not going to test their actual IBO speed. That said, the speed you got is still awfully slow.

The only argument I would make is giving the features a 5 if it includes strings and cables as part of their package. I really like the way primes shoot and hold so I never expect them to be fast. But 19 off ibo is crazy.

If you had to pick from the prime rvx32 or the Mathew’s lift 29 what would you go with

Josh - what are the manufacturers responses to your speed tests?

Why such large variances in the 3 vibration data readouts??

Will you be testing the Athens Axxis range?

Anyone who has done A LOT of hunting knows a smooth draw is super important, have yet to meet an animal that was worried about 10 feet a second,speed is over rated.

Speed is not off, at least not by that much. Since this bow goes to 80lbs, the speed is measured at 80lbs. This is ibo definition, despite the usual opinion that ibo speed is measured at 70lbs. ATA is at 70, while ibo is flexible, even the draw length is not fixed.

Prime RVX's speed was off by 19 and you gave it a score of 1... Mathews lift was off by 17 I think, you gave it a 4 ... Come on man!!!

I guess my only wonder is how many FPS do you lose shooting through the whisker biscuit as you shot a drop away out of the mathews? Would that change that drastic difference in FPS rating?

Holy smokes to be that far off on speed is uncalled for. Don’t get me wrong I like prime bows but that is crazy. Great review

1305 thats the same vibration at Mathews 33 lift. Maybe people can drop the vibration stigma associated with the old Prime dual cams. By the way i shoot Mathews Phase 4.

My old bow is a Prime CT5, and I am a fan of the center grip. The grip itself was not satisfactory to me in the end. Loving my ss34 currently but jealous of some of this years modifications...

Solid bow. Hate the speed is off so bad.

Be curious to see you test Xpeditions lightweight alloy bow

I am a prime guy and have an inline 5 and prime defy but I must say I agree with you mfjj I have had it with the speed lies of bow companies if I had the money I would buy a new bow with the most accurate speed ratings I know speed isn’t everything but it’s time to be honest nobody wants to buy a Ferrari that has a Miata engine

Are you dropping a PSE one tomorrow?

Guys, he did the same thing with elite ethos, I actually posted on the 33” Hoyt about it… same deal! I get it lol.

It's interesting when you adjust draw weight that you always have Primes under 70 by a "little bit" but Mathews is always a "little over"...if it's 70 make it 70!

How are you judging ibo speeds on these bows at 70lb when ibo is measured at 80lbs???

To be fair I never believe IBO speeds. They can be misleading. To many variables. IBO allows up to 82 lb draw. ATA limits it to 70+/- 2 lbs.

The speed is because you’re shooting heavier arrows their probably putting those numbers out with light nibs with a stiff but lighter arrow something like a 3D setup not a hunting setup I pull 63 pounds with a prime inline 5 and my 3D arrow shoots 338 fps with a 30 inch draw

So this bow is 19 fps slow and gets a 1/5 score and you consider it to be bad but Mathews was 15 fps slow and gets a 4/5 and considered good??? I hope you get back to being neutral and honest like you used to MFJJ.

I don’t agree with scoring reflex dimensions. That is not a measurement that matters in its own realm. What matters is the distance from the tangent point of the string to the cam, to the axis of the grip. Grip provides a torque about the axis of the grip. String pressure acts to resist that torque. Naturally deflex designs try to maximize that distance but limb length and brace also help. Also the only time reflex does actually matter is when shooting without stabilizers. It changes the position of the center of gravity. With stabilizers you control the mass, CG, and moment of inertia. Lots of tournaments won with an ultra elite and xt3500s. Reflex geometry is only a part of what really matters. That’s how I’ve always modeled it.

Like Mathews, they posted IBO speed and not ATA... Know your busy but once again you skimp on details.

These bows in every speck compare to the Mathews besides features maybe and he crushes these and praises Mathews. Silly.

I had my hopes up for this one. Like every year.........a swing and a miss by Prime!

Prime never seems to build a bow less 32" ata. For that reason alone I will never buy one. I also don't like how they design there nock points inches above the center of string. This is partly the cause of loss of power/speed, dumb design.

I guess my only wonder is how many FPS do you lose shooting through the whisker biscuit as you shot through a drop away out of the mathews? Would that change that drastic difference in FPS rating?