205: 2xDay Training Roundtable w/ Mike Israetel, Jared Feather & Charly Joung

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Revive Stronger

Revive Stronger

4 жыл бұрын

The twice-daily roundtable, featuring Mike, Jared and Charly.
This week I talk to Mike, Jared and Charly all about training twice daily. These guys have been doing 2 workouts a day for years and their approach has evolved over time. I get into the thick of who this training is for, how to apply it and how is it any different to training once per day.
If you’ve ever considered training twice a day, this episode is for you.
Timestamps:
01:11 Since when are the guys doing 2x daily training and why
04:53 Common mistakes and what Jared learned from 2 a day training
07:49 How does 2xday impact the volume landmarks
14:26 Who is it for?
21:19 Is it viable for specialisation periods?
24:40 How to set it up?
32:07 Nutrient timing and nutrition
33:33 Time between AM/PM Sessions
41:03 Macro distribution
46:30 Things to avoid when starting with AM/PM
49:11 Psychological demands of 2xday
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@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Timestamps: 01:11 Since when are the guys doing 2x daily training and why 04:53 Common mistakes and what Jared learned from 2 a day training 07:49 How does 2xday impact the volume landmarks 14:26 Who is it for? 21:19 Is it viable for specialisation periods? 24:40 How to set it up? 32:07 Nutrient timing and nutrition 33:33 Time between AM/PM Sessions 41:03 Macro distribution 46:30 Things to avoid when starting with AM/PM 49:11 Psychological demands of 2xday
@dontreadmyname4396
@dontreadmyname4396 4 жыл бұрын
about central fatigue vs local fatigue, how does rep speed affect it? like for example doing max speed concentric 2s exentric vs 3s concentric 3s excentric?
@Sushila..
@Sushila.. 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this podcast. I started with 1Day with 2 Session like a week a go. I did it out of a need to do more training with more recovery in between. It already works. I feel more recovered and feel less fatigue than training 3-4x2hour sessions week. Best thing I ever implement in my training.
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
@@dontreadmyname4396 do u know the answer?
@dontreadmyname4396
@dontreadmyname4396 Жыл бұрын
@@binchili no
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
@@dontreadmyname4396 Top G reply
@AdamMc192
@AdamMc192 4 жыл бұрын
God bless anyone who still has a spouse after a meso cycle of training twice a day
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahhaha "A guide to how to get divorced and make your family leave you" - Pascal
@tupacsoulja
@tupacsoulja 2 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time keeping that boat afloat with 5 day splits training only once a day
@Chaosdude341
@Chaosdude341 Жыл бұрын
This hits different when you're divorced because you trained too much lmao
@syodios1182
@syodios1182 Жыл бұрын
@@tupacsoulja same. My girl doesn't get it. Got to deal with her asking, if I am training for other women to like me. Or if I am cheating. etc. They don't undestand that you are doing it for your fucking self man. I put my foot down and said "LOOK THIS IS FOR ME and no one else, I want to know how far I can take myself with dedication" Other guys go party or dring every other day. Some others may just sit at home watching TV or play video games not paying attention to you either but wasting their fucking life's. We go to the gym. I think I also have ADHD and going to the gym helps me deal with the extra energy. Also it allows me to meet people with the same drive to take themselves to another level. I need gym time like I need food and sleep. If I cant fuck because I destroyed my body at the gym then wait for my rest day woman. Damn. I hate when they try to make you feel guilty for doing something for yourself. You are your own person.
@tomwaitsfornoone1182
@tomwaitsfornoone1182 Жыл бұрын
bachelors privilege :D
@SunnyJung
@SunnyJung 4 жыл бұрын
Couch level over 9000
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
*Glass shattering* - Pascal
@Solomon_Nelson
@Solomon_Nelson 4 жыл бұрын
Having just built a home gym, I am training twice a day now and it’s a dream. This podcast couldn’t have come out at a more opportune time. Thanks, Steve!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see that. I have minimal equipment at home and still doing it. It's great! - Pascal
@louislabrocante2728
@louislabrocante2728 4 жыл бұрын
Can you share a sample... I'm struggling with this... Want to include everything and maybe doing too much
@AngryOscillator
@AngryOscillator 2 жыл бұрын
When mike is asking who the hell goes to the gym to do 5 sets of curls? Dude, I don't have to go anywhere to do 5 sets of curls, I don't even have to leave my room 👍😁💪
@Exodus26.13Pi
@Exodus26.13Pi 2 жыл бұрын
How much do you push it most weeks? Thx
@First2Ki11
@First2Ki11 4 жыл бұрын
Mike: His biceps are suicidally small. *Jared laughs, looks down slyly at his biceps a few seconds later.*
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
*Sad violin plays silently in the background" - Pascal
@ssdabel
@ssdabel 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, never heard Charlie speak, I did NOT expect that voice 😅😅
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
He has the voice of an angel! - Pascal
@UndefinedLastName
@UndefinedLastName Жыл бұрын
Dr. Mike with the Thomas Sowell shirt 🔥
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger Жыл бұрын
Legendary - Steve
@emiljorgensen5340
@emiljorgensen5340 4 жыл бұрын
So hyped for this!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Yeeees! - Pascal
@amirfarzanyavarianfar1236
@amirfarzanyavarianfar1236 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Thanks gentlemen.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :) - Pascal
@scottmuscles
@scottmuscles 4 жыл бұрын
Great session!!!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! - Pascal
@GagoGamesYT
@GagoGamesYT 4 жыл бұрын
I was so looking forward to this one, thanks! #ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it! - Pascal
@faceisking
@faceisking 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I do two a days and I was pushing it too hard and there right I was starting burning out.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in buddy :) - Pascal
@Mr.Rexfire
@Mr.Rexfire 4 жыл бұрын
How did all them fit on that couch!?
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
XXXXXL Couch - Pascal
@michaelbond7213
@michaelbond7213 4 жыл бұрын
17:45 the cake analogy killed me
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
King of analogies! - Pascal
@nickangelovski4358
@nickangelovski4358 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Amazing info, I’m so grateful for your Chanel - I really cant thank you enough! God bless ya Son :)
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for listening! - Pascal
@MrJamesdryable
@MrJamesdryable 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer at least 4 to 5 hours between sessions. The longer the better.
@MrKarolWlodarczyk
@MrKarolWlodarczyk 7 ай бұрын
THAT SOWELL SHIRT 🔥🔥🔥
@Chaosdude341
@Chaosdude341 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love multi sessions a day holy shit thank you Steve and scal
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger Жыл бұрын
Nice one - Steve
@tomwaitsfornoone1182
@tomwaitsfornoone1182 Жыл бұрын
upper lower? am i the only one who runs chest/back day 1 bis/tris/rear side delts day 2, day 3 quads hams calves forearms? works great for me, best bicep and tricep growth i've ever had. will likely go back to PPL to focus chest/back but im still growing with back/chest days.
@FacelessProjects
@FacelessProjects 4 жыл бұрын
23:55 Jared on the sly checking his biceps after Mike lays into them. 😛 I wish my arms were half the size 😅
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, lovely scene - Pascal
@Chaosdude341
@Chaosdude341 3 жыл бұрын
Hadn't gotten around to this one, but it was mentioned on one of Mike's RP presentations on comparing hypertrophy routines. Excellent. Additionally, good lord Charly's smooth baritone voice is enviable. 800 lbs squatters and their deep voices, it's a conspiracy, man.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, hope you enjoy it :) - Coach Jess
@charly40fication
@charly40fication 4 жыл бұрын
Steve "Haull" Hall!!! ❤️❤️💪💪 This will be dope to listen to while getting the steps in.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
He's back as every week ;) - Pascal
@RandoBox
@RandoBox 4 жыл бұрын
Doug's transformation was permanent??
@imsorrythankyouplease7613
@imsorrythankyouplease7613 4 жыл бұрын
You’re technically not adding in too many more sets in that second session than you would be doing *Buff people nod* 6:55
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Very important to realise! - Pascal
@OutperformMP
@OutperformMP 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! It was one thing that was a bit unclear to me. Do you ideally want 2 meals in before your PM session (assuming your session is 5-6 hours later)
@HenkSnackbar
@HenkSnackbar 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on the individual how much but the total meals don't matter. Loading up on carbs and electrolytes is the most important. There's quite some literature on nutrition and 2 a days
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. You can also have your first training right in the AM for example. - Pascal
@amitloutube
@amitloutube 3 ай бұрын
Now I understand!! Eat more easy to digest carbs(rice/white bread etc) and lean proteins(turkey chicekn or lean red meat or lentils) and low in fat(10%) and if you want to eat butter eat in small amount and at dinner vs in early morning breakfast(because it takes time to digest...) and lift heavy and sleep well and then you automatically become bodybuilder!!
@jay_3926
@jay_3926 4 жыл бұрын
Great Vid! I've a question about weekly MRV. I feel like i can not reach MRV for lots of muscle groups even if i up volume a ton and stay around an average RIR of 2. I really have to end Mesos intentionally by lowing the RIR, instead of autoregulating its length and just go to failure if i see performance decreases. It becomes so exessive that i'm even over-recovered after a 10set HighBar Squat Session on RIR 1 so that my performance on the next Leg Press Session improves just two days after. I would guess my MRV for back around 50 sets, 6 times frequency. Im average height, weight and i trained long enough to have a pretty good guess on RIR. Im still not advanced so my weights used obviously aren't high. I still don't think these are the reasons my MRVs are so huge. I just dont know how to program right, if i am capable of accumulating so much volume. Should my Mesos take like forever, should i accumulate very aggressively or maybe even start with a much higher MEV right from the start and then just progress normally from there on? And how many muscle groups can i even train together so i just don't end up smashing tons of junk volume bcs reaching per Session MRV first. Thanks gentles.
@louisthornton3415
@louisthornton3415 3 жыл бұрын
Mate I’m exactly the same, I think it’s just a case of running longer meso’s and adding sets aggressively so if your not going in to a session sore and performance is good just add two to three sets to that muscle group per session, it just gets annoying spending hours in the gym trying to hit muscles to local MRV and you can’t get there, I think the best option is to keep a couple of muscles at MEV.
@commonsense5188
@commonsense5188 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting caveat in terms who this training might be good for, are those of us who never have enough time to get a solid, SINGLE session in. For instance, if you're working 12 hours a day, not counting your commute to and from work, along with having a family, splitting up your sessions in a intelligent manner might be the best bang for your buck way to get the most out of your time in the gym. Now, obviously this really only pertains to those like myself who have equipment at home, and possibly those that frequent a gym that is on the way to or from work. However, it is doable. What I've been experimenting with is doing a push/pull (not push pull legs). Monday & Thursday : AM session is quads and chest. So for instance, Incline bench, squat, dips, lunges. The PM session would be side delts, triceps and calves followed by cardio. Tuesday & Friday : AM session is back and hamstrings. Something like RDL, Pull Up, Cable Row, Hamstring curls. PM session would be biceps, traps and rear delts followed by cardio. AM sessions along with PM sessions can be done in a super-set fashion with a minute or so between sets, if you pair the movements correctly. So not TRUE super-sets, but it does allow you to condense the sessions further if you're short on time. Squat and bench for instance, might be a tough to pair together, so worst case scenario you do straight sets on bench, then do straight sets on squat, and then super set dips and lunges. If you can't super set dips and lunges with 30 seconds to a minute between sets, you're sandbagging. The same goes for db rows or cable rows and super setting that with something like leg curls on days 2 and 4. Do the first 2 big exercises in straight set fashion to get the most out of them. Do whatever you want in the PM session. Super set or don't, the session will be short enough over-all that it shouldn't matter. On the last 2 workouts of the week, swap exercises for variety keep volume manageable and realistic. When you have long days, trying to get that one longer, single session each day can be a real task. If anything, the psychological aspect alone when thinking of doing 2 shorter sessions is of real benefit, as opposed to thinking about finding enough to get an adequate single session in, whether before or after work, not to mention the other things you have to do.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this! I feel like I'd be a little concerned about training twice daily on a busy and stressful day already, having to warm up and potentiate etc! But I'm not bashing it, definitely could be useful for some! - Coach Jess
@commonsense5188
@commonsense5188 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger Agreed, it can be a bit much. Of course when one is working a substantial amount of hours, any reasonable program can end up being a bit too much unfortunately when required effort is put forth. After experimenting myself, I've found 2 a day training with a busy schedule, particularly if done on a 4 day a week split, is better suited to an upper lower. You can super-set more conveniently on both your upper and lower day and the typical accessories on each of those days work well when you throw them in a quick in and out PM session. Thanks for the reply.
@jonnyboz
@jonnyboz 2 жыл бұрын
@@commonsense5188 love your comment. Any advice on how you’ve found 2 a day using Upper Lower? Organising my training now for 2 a day based on Upper Lower 4 days a week training
@raymundclaudiojr.1612
@raymundclaudiojr.1612 2 жыл бұрын
Here I am enjoying a good podcast, then suddenly I get hit with some NJ-hate at around 19:50 lol. I didn't expect that and it was hilarious
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to have you and being able to entertain 😅 - Pascal
@IWASHM
@IWASHM 3 жыл бұрын
Very funny intro!!!!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed haha, thanks for listening :) - Coach Jess
@nuavecmoi
@nuavecmoi 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, but I really wanted Charlie to detail what one of his two-a-day training/eating is like. After Jared went off on his rant, you forgot about that.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sorry about that haha! - Coach Jess
@Fazlifts
@Fazlifts 4 жыл бұрын
0:18 10/10 bants Steve
@ladyviking
@ladyviking 2 жыл бұрын
I do 2-a-days when I need to, either physically, mentally, or logistically. It really IS a luxury, though, as it implies one has the time and freedom to do so.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish I could, but it's not possible for now, it really is a luxury! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess
@krankin88
@krankin88 4 жыл бұрын
Yessssssss
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Yeeeehehes! - Pascal
@AngryOscillator
@AngryOscillator 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just sitting here surround by my training equipment feeling smug thinking "Who goes to the gym to do 5 sets of curls? **looks at the kettlebells and barbell by the wall** I mean...."
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha xD Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess
@AngryOscillator
@AngryOscillator 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger bit late but I got here 😁
@mfranko1000
@mfranko1000 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else sent here by Dr. Mike?
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently mentioned in a presentation haha! Hope you enjoy the talk! - Coach Jess
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
34:25 best advice
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
47:30 I'm dead 🤣
@ParvParashar
@ParvParashar 7 ай бұрын
Excellent discussion! Really enjoyed it thoroughly. Dr. Mike jokes are absolutely hilarious as always! 💪👍🙏
@charlescagle2090
@charlescagle2090 4 жыл бұрын
are you taking a pre workout before both sessions?
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
It's advised not to do so - Pascal
@tradewizard6192
@tradewizard6192 4 жыл бұрын
great video..why dont you prefer fullhd ?
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate please? - Pascal
@tradewizard6192
@tradewizard6192 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger Some of the videos are in 720p ..why not 1080p ..thanks
@regenesis5055
@regenesis5055 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
;)
@Magic_beans_
@Magic_beans_ 2 жыл бұрын
19:47 - Can you tell that Mike used to live in Philadelphia?
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
47:03 BABM
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
17:56 aww
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
42:08!!
@gamerchristina1079
@gamerchristina1079 2 жыл бұрын
💪💪❤️❤️‼️
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! - Coach Jess
@mrtianflo7728
@mrtianflo7728 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been training twice a day for almost half a year now, but it’s cuz I’m addicted to working out high
@alexseuser4035
@alexseuser4035 4 жыл бұрын
Do I have to watch it before I hit 'like'? Cause fuck that.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
You can always hit the like first. It's a safe bet! - Pascal
@austinmorris3422
@austinmorris3422 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 3 жыл бұрын
The great**! Thanks for watching :) - Coach Jess
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
37:25!!!!?
@Kyle111
@Kyle111 Жыл бұрын
Homegym master race
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
33:00
@rickblair5076
@rickblair5076 4 жыл бұрын
that's a beef couch
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, most muscular couch - Pascal
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
35:20 M AND C chilling but J BE hating
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
56:01 lmao
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
38:25
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
28:50 02828
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
15:37
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
23:08
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
40:29 hahahahahahah
@Sushila..
@Sushila.. 2 жыл бұрын
47:00 🤣😂🥲
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
31:09 🚂
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
53:26 BO IS R
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
20:29-20::36 jared getting tired
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
26:45 ong granny
@gagebell5602
@gagebell5602 27 күн бұрын
I have no friends and am hopeless so I train twice a day
@ces4156
@ces4156 2 жыл бұрын
Great one, gym is 2 minutes away from home lol its pretty much the other side of street
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's cool! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess
@binchili
@binchili Жыл бұрын
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