20TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION - 2004-2006 Demo Album + Rehearsal footage
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Күн бұрынHey everyone!
This year marks the 10 year anniversary of our debut release “Emergence”... and with that comes the 20 year anniversary of Shylmagoghnar. I struggle to believe that number, but here we are.
To celebrate this occasion, I wanted to share something with you which I have been hesitant to show for the past decade: the original collection of demos from 2004-2006, upon which Emergence and the albums after it were founded. As far as I'm aware, most of these never made it onto the internet. This CD was mainly circulated between our friends in highschool (some of which are still actively supporting the project to this day - thank you kindly for that dear friends \m/ Enjoy this blast from the past!).
To make it a little more interesting, I've added some commentary and a handfull of pictures (of which there are sadly EXTREMELY FEW from those days).
The demo album can also be downloaded for free on my Bandcamp page:
shylmagoghnar.bandcamp.com/
ALSO: Stick around til the end if you want to see the only footage I could find of Skirge & I rehearsing together back in the day. If nothing else, it will make you appreciate how far digital cameras have come since 2007!
Thank you all again for sticking with Shylmagoghnar all these years. I would have never dared to imagine that this little high school project would survive that long. Cheers and onward to another 20 years!
-Nim
Photos and video footage used with permission of S.E. Dantchev, R.L.T. Bertrand, C. H. van der Weerden
Demo album:
00:00 Follow Me to Where the Sun No Longer Warms The Earth
3:12 Third Cry of the Raven (intro)
4:12 To Keep in Mind
8:21 Squandered Paradise
12:54 Eden in Ashes
18:57 Within the Hollow
21:31 Thorn Diadem
26:40 Eternal Forest
31:01 Raptures of a Dying World
34:14 What Pain Provides
38:17 A New Dawn
Bonus material:
42:46 Heimdall's Horn snippet
44:08 2007 Rehearsal video footage (intro)
44:24 Eden in Ashes rehearsal
50:02 Squandered Paradise rehearsal (outtake)
50:33 Early version of No Child of Man Could Follow rehearsal (outtake)
51:06 First time playing Emergence during rehearsal (outtake)
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Remember everyone: back up your things! What means nothing to you today may be your only reminder of a precious memory tomorrow.
@krzysztoffilar2705 4 ай бұрын
Oh yea. We as Temptator from Poland have met after30 years and now we are working on remake our demo tape from highschool made in 1993 A.D. :) Nowadays is easier to make records from every band practice
@Thurnin 4 ай бұрын
You've come a long way from being an already impressive composer, brother. This is a very cool little time capsule to have.
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you brother, that means a lot coming from you! I'm very glad I had all of this stuff archived somewhere in a dark corner still. It's as different as it is the same somehow.
@garrywalker007 4 ай бұрын
This was a fascinating look into how some of the Emergence songs originally started!. Can't believe how different A New Dawn was, it's one of my favourite songs on the album so hearing it's origins was a lot of fun. Thank you for putting this on YT and hopefully we'll get to see more of this sort of thing in the future.
@themetalgoalie 4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for sharing these "remnants of the past" with everyone. And special thanks to Skirge et al for the permission to do this. Means a lot. Can't believe it's been 10 years since Emergence!!!!!
@Monkster1987 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the joy that your albums have brought me over the years. They've got me out of some dark places and I wouldn't be around without such artists like yourself to inspire me on my own journey
@paneos71 4 ай бұрын
20 years ago,and still you can understand that something unique is about to happened. Something unique is about to Emerge!! There's a huge difference between Shylma and all the black metal bands of that time. Thank you my friend!!
@sarchlalaith8836 4 ай бұрын
I will never not love Shylmagoghnar.
@dd1.d 4 ай бұрын
One thing that I love about Shylmagoghnar is you don't hear a single riff or melody to much and always there are changes in the melody. Btw congratulations on 20th Anniversary
@DM.98 4 ай бұрын
12:54 Im in love with this voice version of the song Edit: For What Pain provides answer: For me you were right to abbandoning that track, idk why, i feel that way was the right decision Thorn Diadem looks like a Dimmu Borgir old demo im speechless man wow
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
It really has a vibe of its own doesn't it! I really regret that we didn't record Skirge's vocals on more of these demos. The lyrics for them mostly existed, but we just somehow never got around to it.
@DM.98 4 ай бұрын
@@Shylmagoghnar Imo for a "commercial" way the album voice was great, but this recordings are way more emotional, i can feel more the tracks
@kingovhell8909 3 ай бұрын
The best of the best!!!! 👍🏻💯🤘
@Shylmagoghnar 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! \m/
@nazarenomascheroni 4 ай бұрын
simply amazing! It is admirable that they spent 10 years perfecting the "emergence" to achieve that work of art. In these times where everything tends to be quick and easy I value this more! I send you a big greeting from Argentina Nim!
@crafterofbeer 4 ай бұрын
So cool to hear the very early stuff, can hear the sound from day dot from very raw beginings to a refined current sound. Absolutely amazing stuff. Hope to hear much more music from you.. Have to say I found you from the original album purely from the album artwork which stood out from all the rest and screamed "listen to me!" Been a fan happily ever since.
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, that's exactly what I hoped it would do for the people who have known this project for a while! Yes that Emergence art was cathartic for me. It's from a traumatic experience I had as a teenager, when I first started having problems with what later on turned out to be psychosis. It felt like that image was burned into my mind like that guy from Close Encounters of the Third Kind who can't stop seeing that mountain. Luckily I was blessed to have a friend who was able to draw it almost exactly as I saw it, and that's what became the cover! It helped a lot.
@berserker2551 4 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your 20th Anniversary and the Odyssey you had to go through to get to where you are now🤘🏻
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very kindly man! I don't regret it one bit. One of the most valuable things I've been experiencing in my life for sure.
@berserker2551 3 ай бұрын
@@Shylmagoghnar i belive it,this music way is Insane
@Spookloops 4 ай бұрын
It was wonderful to see and hear some of the history - both behind the scenes and the tracks themselves! Many many warm congrats on how you've come and best wishes to everything ahead of you, both inside and outside of Shyl
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! It was a trip down memory lane for me too. Most of these things I hadn't seen or heard for nearly two decades, so when I started digging for this event, it was very nostalgic. Really cool to see the reactions from the outside world after all these years!
@user-hn9mt8ti3o 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this insight. The intro-now-outro and Within the Hollow take me back to the good old Thy Serpent keyboard compositions. Hell yeah nostalgia is hitting right here :-)
@ronaldtebrinke2599 4 ай бұрын
Enorm bedankt voor het delen van dit materiaal en alle achtergrond informatie! Fantastisch om te horen en lezen hoe dit allemaal tot stand is gekomen. Jullie talent was er duidelijk toen al in te horen. Het nummer 'To keep in Mind' klinkt toch ook wel erg lekker hoor. Wel weer erg prettig voor ons dat we het dan nu toch maar mooi weer meepakken. 🙂 Je kunt duidelijk zien dat je erg fijne herinneringen aan de samenwerking met Skige hebt overgehouden. Hopelijk kunnen we nog vele jaren genieten van jouw fantastische materiaal en nogmaals dank voor het delen!
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Het is me een groot genoegen zoals altijd! Ik zocht al een tijdje voor een passende reden om dit te delen, dus deze aangelegenheid was ideaal :) En ja, mijn vriendschap met Skirge is altijd diep geweest. We hebben samen veel doorstaan en dit project verbond ons in die tijd nog meer. Hoewel ik het jammer vind dat dat nu niet meer het geval is ben ik wel gerustgesteld dat ik hem niet in het proces ben kwijtgeraakt. We zien elkaar nog steeds regelmatig en spraak over samenwerking in toekomstige projecten van veelvuldige aard blijft regelmatig voorkomen. Dus wie weet - misschien dat het niet in Shylmagoghnar zal zijn, maar ik kan me haast niet voorstellen dat we nooit meer iets samen zouden doen. Hij heeft bijivoorbeeld naar mijn mening écht kwaliteiten in het schrijven van lore en (bord)spelsystemen. Dat is een sprong die ik hem graag zou zien nemen! Volledig met je eend dat "To keep in mind" iets heeft trouwens - ik was die demo al die jaren vergeten maar toen ik hem terug hoorde bij het maken van deze video vroeg ik me af waarom ik er niks mee gedaan heb. Inmiddels heb ik meerdere mensen dezelfde vraag zien stellen, dus... misschien toch maar eens in achterhoofd houden voor Albumnummer4ence?
@DrMPQC 4 ай бұрын
This is amazing - I hope you do it for Transience and Convergence as well! It's fantastic hearing how the songs used to be. I was only aware of the demo for Journey Through the Fog
@goodskele7241 4 ай бұрын
Time truly flies, and so do you! Thank you for your works of art!
@mandigal8262 4 ай бұрын
Very cool to hear the origins of Shylmagoghnar, thanks for sharing. My favourites are Edin in Ashes & Squandered Paradise, I like the hooks and track progression on the last one.
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked the idea! Yes when listening back to this, I still mostly agree with our choices of what was used and what was left behind. Edin and Squandered were practically completely finished here already. I don't know what it was about that last one, but despite positive reactions from my friends back then I just really didn't get along with that flute melody! The version on Emergence felt much more like what I had in mind. But now that both are available, people can pick their own favorite versions!
@mandigal8262 4 ай бұрын
@goghnarSorry for the confusion, I meant Squandered Paradise. Both demo and album version are great. Also really like the distorted guitar on it together with the dystopian song thematics. Thanks again for sharing!
@KellyOn 4 ай бұрын
just love your sound, a mirror of myself...cheers, please continue
@Lesca6 2 ай бұрын
Love the dancing gnomes on "a new dawn" 😂 Damn, the early version of this song is so different
@Shylmagoghnar 2 ай бұрын
Once I had that image in my head, I just couldn't get it out anymore :D It took me longer than it should have, but I'm glad I eventually learned to just let go of things if they weren't working out the way I intended. The final version of this song might just be my personal favorite on the debut :)
@brunobatistadesouza254 4 ай бұрын
That's simply amazing. Cheers from Brazil!
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I'm glad the old time capsule finally has some use :)
@Jonaldinho999 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing! It's amazing! Your music helps me. Greetings from Spain.
@benjaminfrohns 4 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff Kev. I had no clue you started that early composing those songs. 2004 we were just done with highschool. 5:40 your neighbours loved you :)
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Bennie! Yeah it had been really important to me all those years, but to everyone else it was just talk probably. Can't blame 'm, 10 years is a long time... Haha they did not I think, but the kids a couple doors further sure did! We were having a competition of who could turn up their amp the most before either the cops or mom and dad showed up. I wonder if those guys are still playing these days, they had a punk band which was decently popular locally I think.
@benjaminfrohns 4 ай бұрын
@@Shylmagoghnar Do you mean Kings of the day perhaps? I don't think they are active anymore.
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Yes that was the name! It's a shame, cause M was very engaged with music whenever I spoke to him (usually at the Üllemaat, back when that was still a piece of Völser Kultur :/)
@kikiw.5746 4 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you so much for this video, what a treat! So interesting to hear how you started, especially with your comments! I love Skirges vocals on Eden in Ashes. You've come a long way, incredible it has been already 20 years!
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
My pleasure! It really is hard to believe... I'm glad we captured his voice on at least that demo back then. I do kind of wish we had done it for the others as well, but alas. Really cool to see the responses to this old dusty trove :)
@NikNePrydumav 4 ай бұрын
the album Emergence restored my faith in extreme heavy metal. my level of impression was comparable to Master of Puppets in '86. Now I listened to the demo and it was as if I had attended Shylma’s chamber concert.
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
That's absolutely awesome to hear, thank you! Hearing Puppets for the first time was what made me become obsessed with metal and I don't think anything else has made me feel that way so yeah, that's a massive compliment to me. I'm really glad that you are are able to enjoy the demoes in this way. To me they certainly have a vibe which fits to what it felt like to be us at that time. It was good to have a fitting reason to share them with the world.
@jazervovchenko1604 4 ай бұрын
that was so satisfying to watch! it was like finding a treasure! I also enjoyed some of demos even more than final version. for example, squandered paradise sounds on demo more aggressive and raw, it sounded like darkthrone for me. then I enjoyed some facts about edin in ashes because it's one of my favourite shylmagoghnar songs and seeing it's being played on a rehearsal is even more exciting. btw you playing is so damn good, how old you've been back in those days? also it was interesting to notice that band had more raw black metal vibes on demo than on the final version. congratulations with 20 years anniversary and I'm waiting for another new material or maybe you'll upload other demos because I remember I saw journey through the fog demo on youtube.
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad it was an interesting trip to you! Yes sometimes the first attempt at something really has all the magic, even if it's technically "imperfect"! And I agree, because of the higher production quality of the eventual release, people have sometimes mentioned that they didn't really hear the black metal in it, but I think some of these demo versions show what we meant by that. It's certainly not the grimmest iciest black, but tracks like Squandered Paradise are definitely not melodic death to my ears! Other tracks like Edin started having a bit more of everything then, etc. The band's sound really just kind of appeared naturally over time, and is continuing to take on new shapes even today. I've always enjoyed that about this project and I'm so glad that we didn't paint ourselves into a corner with the first album! I'll see what I can do with future uploads. I might bundle it up if I can find enough material. The thing is that from Emergence onwards I already had my home studio set up, so there mostly weren't any demos in the traditional sense. Most tracks went from being written to the final recording with no steps between. Maybe I still have snippets of ideas being born though, I'm not sure about that :)
@jazervovchenko1604 4 ай бұрын
@@Shylmagoghnar have a good luck, thanks for responding!!!
@piesdescalzos8943 4 ай бұрын
Impresionante 🤘🎸😵💫🤟
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! \m/
@febroari 4 ай бұрын
Hidden Gem
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Hidden in the back drawer of my old hard disks for all those years indeed! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@Climbatron 4 ай бұрын
I love to hear demos of songs and riffs I know so well. Your unique style is there at the beginning and has been consistent throughout. But how do you ever know when a song is "done" and to stop messing with it?
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
That is an ipmortant question which nearly cost me 10 years to find an answer to! I'll take some time to write this one out, cause if even a single person stuck in that loop reads this, it will have been worth it: It's a cliché to say, but it's true: art is never truly finished - only abandoned by its creator. The only part of that statement I don't agree with is the use of the word "abandoned". I think a more fitting term would be "framed". Once a piece is far along enough that you're just going in circles without any true improvements, it's time to put it behind glass so you cannot mess with it anymore. In the case of music, that usually means releasing it. As for how you would know when that time has arrived: for me it helps to listen to the things I'm working on passively. When you are actively staring at your work, looking for flaws, you WILL find them. But you don't do that for other people's work, so it's really not a very helpful state to be in. So what I do instead is that I throw the song into a random playlist and let it play while I go do something else. That stops your mind from hyperfocusing and once the track comes on, you hopefully have a small amount of time to hear it the way an outsider would hear it. If you hear it like that and something sticks out to you, there likely is a problem. If it doesn't bother you, there likely is no problem. Once you reach that point, it's time to burn the bridge and call it done, or neurotic thoughts will find a way to drag you back in. Do the final render, and begin work on another song. To me that works for anything from song writing to mixing and mastering, so hopefully that pulls someone through!
@paneos71 4 ай бұрын
@@Shylmagoghnarrespect!! Thats why i am impressed with you since 2014 ( time flies).
@santiagohernandezramos5096 4 ай бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS FOR AN EXCELENT AND BRILLIANT MUSICIAN.....THANKS FOR ALL....GOOD LOOK FOREVER....
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very kindly man! Also, I just responded to your email so I hope that arrived :)
@FlorisLD 4 ай бұрын
It was very interesting to hear and see a bit in the past through Shylmagoghnar. Can't help but feel melanchonic, seeing those rehearsal clips, like I missed out on some of these experiences for myself. I'm very intrigued by this forested hill, was it where you shot the video? and/or is the picture at 31:10 THE hill with the dark clouds?
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
I feel very similar despite being in the shot haha! It really does feel like a window into a different era by now. I'm glad my wife took the initiative to record us there, because the two of us certainly wouldn't have. The hill in question was indeed where that demo video for Eternal Forest was shot! My future wife just so happened to live at the foot of that hill, which is one of the many happenings of that nature which make me feel connected to it. I ended up living with her there for a couple of years, and all the songs on Emergence which aren't on this demo were written in that house. It was a very strange place, and not always in a pleasant way. The picture of the dark clouds at 31:10 wasn't of the hill, but very close to it. The clouds were very similar on that fateful day so it was the closest representation I had :)
@tanchikrulit4488 4 ай бұрын
Аплодирую стоя!
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@chucknoum23 4 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's just me but I really think there is a "Morningrise" sound to the bass in A New Dawn 👌
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
I always thought that as well! It would make sense, because Morningrise is one of my favorites of all time, and it's not in small part because of the bass. But as far as I can recall, I don't think I knew Opeth at that point. I did start listening to Death with Steve DiGiorgio somewhere around this time though, so he was an inspiration for sure.
@user-fx1ur4jx7h 4 ай бұрын
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@dd1.d 4 ай бұрын
track 10, I really liked it but I think ending was abrupt and unexpected
@demonkoryu 4 ай бұрын
My favorite song "Squandered Paradise" is already that old? :D
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Haha yes! Some songs took years to write, while others just kind of happened in an afternoon. You've got Skirge to thank for it making the debut album, I was (probably unreasonably) cynical about it at the time :)
@NeptuneTowers 4 ай бұрын
What Pain Provides is wel het minste nummer van deze release, dus ik snap dat je het niet gebruikt hebt
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Goed om te horen dat het niet aan mij lag! Ik snapte toen al de positieve reacties erop niet, maar ik heb in het verleden wel eens bruikbare dingen bijna weggegooid door een te hoge graag aan cynisme. Goed om nu eens de kans te krijgen om te horen wat anderen van de keuzes denken!
@sarchlalaith8836 4 ай бұрын
Lost... The downward key changes
@user-kq9oz1tx4z 4 ай бұрын
Ээ, братан, вещи типа to keep in mind, дают мне силы жить, и бороться с электрическим током, я электромонтер, где продолжение, брат?Я работаю со стихией, и каждый день могу умереть на работе, твоя музыка дает мне сил! Шеф, вперëд!
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
My translator isn't working so well on what you said, but I think you are asking if "To Keep In Mind" has ever been/will ever be completed? If so: I agree that one has potential, so it's very possible that it might still end up on a future album. I just got extremely frustrated back then because the intro riff happened to sound a lot like an existing riff by Immortal which I didn't know about, so I didn't want to work on it anymore. Hearing it back now though, I think that was an overreaction. The intro riff would be fine with some minor changes and the rest of the song sounds like Shylmagoghnar to me!
@user-kq9oz1tx4z 4 ай бұрын
@@ShylmagoghnarI wrote that I work as an electrician, and every day I risk dying at work, but I am charged with your music, and in many ways thanks to it I live. Thank you for your music!
@user-kq9oz1tx4z 4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but the translation difficulties, I can't quite say what I think...
@Shylmagoghnar 4 ай бұрын
Wow, that's something... I'm glad I can mean something for you in such extreme situations! Stay safe! \m/
@user-kq9oz1tx4z 4 ай бұрын
@@ShylmagoghnarAll right, my boss! Shylma power 💪⚡⚡⚡!
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