212 Ghost VS $500 212 Predator

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212 Ghost VS $500 212 Predator
Tested the $500 212 Predator Azusa mini bike from 0 to 30 and top speed. Ran the same test with the 212 Ghost-powered Azusa Minibike to compare the difference in performance.
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Parts used -
Sprocket - www.ebay.com/itm/153969185235
.020 ARC billet rod - www.arcracing.com/6256-billet...
ARC billet flywheel - www.arcracing.com/6695-predat...
Head stud kit - www.ebay.com/itm/324592501601
VM22 Mikuni carb kit - www.ebay.com/itm/194358544642
Header pipe - www.ombwarehouse.com/undersea...
252 series cam and 22lb springs- www.ebay.com/itm/224706440683
Ghost engine -
www.harborfreight.com/212cc-g...
Ghost accessory kit -
www.harborfreight.com/ghost-2...
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@dbfabworks5320 Жыл бұрын

Very nice videos!! I love the testsing you do, definetly helpful!! Was wondering if you have ever used the .020" over rod in any of your builds? Says it will bring the piston up more in the hole and bump compression, would be cool to see a video on it. Keep it up!

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, I have used the .020 rod in many builds including the one in this video.

@mikeburch2998 Жыл бұрын

You can probably get all the way to Aspin on that hog. 🙂

@bigpickle2599 Жыл бұрын

Everyone heres dumb and dumber cause they aint no what you meant 😂😂😂

@gamerboi_aj1368 11 ай бұрын

Or the junk yard

@sgt.steve-o2092 10 ай бұрын

@mikeburch2998 Don't worry, the hilariousness of your comment was not lost on me. 😂 "Where did you get that?" "Some kid in town. Traded the van for it straight up. "

@mikeburch2998 10 ай бұрын

@@sgt.steve-o2092 Thank you. Greetings from Arizona.

@mikeburch2998 10 ай бұрын

@@sgt.steve-o2092 I would have never let go of the mutt cuts mobile. 🤣

@brighambaker3381 Жыл бұрын

Great video with fun content and a perfect format without any fluff or excess commentary. Thank you!

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for watching the videos!

@NVScrapper Жыл бұрын

A great comparison video Black! It will be nice to see what else you do with the 212 Ghost and what it does with the mods! Keep the vids coming! 😘

@CorneliusCreations Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video bro! My dad and I are watching this video on the big screen tonight. These motors are crazy!

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching,!

@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын

OMG those mini bikes are equal to winning the $10 million dollar sweepstakes when I was in 4th grade. I dreamed of owning a mini bike in the 1970's.

@lightworker4512 Жыл бұрын

I hear you! I’m 65 and still want a mini bike!

@thiswillprobhrt Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to do these tests. IDK how much I can conclude until both are tested on a gear limited setup, at least where top speed is concerned. That said, I think the Ghost is arguably the best “bolt on” 212 for someone looking for 12ish HP. Naturally if you want to put time and parts into a “regular” 212 you’ll have a more powerful package. It’s all down to personal preference like anything. Your skills, budget, goals and how you value your time.

@joshgascon7087 Жыл бұрын

New to the channel, I'm in! Can't wait to start my build.

@andrewkuhtz Жыл бұрын

Awsome video Black 66! Love those azusa bikes👍

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@neighborhoodcrime148 Жыл бұрын

Love it keep doing what you do! How about a video on the Coleman brake upgrades.

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have a video coming out soon on that. In A week or two

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Here is the link for the Coleman brake upgrade kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m66Rq5x8vqmUqKM.html

@easttexasengineering3489 Жыл бұрын

Damn good comparison brother

@zachhh.2023 Жыл бұрын

Love the minis bro!😹😹 i have a coleman 100 or something with the predator 212cc swap with a big sprocket, imma tell you, that thing rips when you hit it🙉🙉

@dustincarlson5585 Жыл бұрын

That's what I'm building.

@igokarts4510 Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️❤️, but.......you said the comparison was against the ghost's accessory kit. Did you install the thinner head gasket and curved intake provided with the kit?

@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas Жыл бұрын

Another great video

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that

@MrJbrew69 9 ай бұрын

Good to know looking at both right now

@Black66 9 ай бұрын

Check out the ghost playlist for more videos on the ghost .

@jdsolberg7613 Жыл бұрын

Rearward facing camera is pretty sweet.

@jimcornish242 Жыл бұрын

always love a good apples to apples comparison...have you done any chain comparison yet, I'm interested if there is any gain or loss from using a 35 chain compared to using bigger stuff on these small tired bikes

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thank! I'll have to do that!

@MrThedustin Жыл бұрын

Main thing to factor with chain is weight. Bigger chain means more weight. Meaning need to power to move at same speed as using smaller chain. I use the rvl extreme performance gold on black #35 chain and do 65mph daily. Been on almost a month now and still in great condition. Beefy little links.

@Linwood_Garage Жыл бұрын

Is that $500 predator the same engine that has the 1.2 ratio rockers on it? If so does the ghost have the same. You got so many engines I've lost track. Love the videos. I've pulled my minibike out and started tinkering again because of your vids.

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! No, this Predator has stock factory rockers,stock valvetrain except for springs to support the 252 cam.

@blackout9814 Жыл бұрын

@Black66 love the testing methodology on your vids! Im new to the mini bike sean and picked up the Predator 212 if I remove the govener but no other upgrades should I/ do I really need to change the rod and the flywheel?

@backpackgrams5709 Жыл бұрын

Upgrade the internal and ad external later, That way the internal doesn’t bust while you got it at high rpm’s

@JorgeLopez-xb5mg Жыл бұрын

Looks like so much fun

@samsgarage1716 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@larrypage9201 Жыл бұрын

I live in Kingman too I have an Manco go-kart. With predator 212, I have some old street go-karts frames, with racing slicks maybe we can horse trade I need a driven primary. For a torque converter setup I lost mine riding with my kids

@Fortuna_716 Жыл бұрын

I'm trying to learn about engines, I think moddin a mini bike would be a good place to start

@predator_boiz336 Жыл бұрын

I know I keep on asking you questions but I’m Just diving into my first mini ; so you not use exhaust gaskets?? Only asking cause when you switched the pipe I didn’t see a gasket; also you’re AWESOME about responding to comments! LOVE THAT

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Ya, There was one on there. Sometimes it will be stuck on the pipe or just not in the shot in the video. But I always use a gasket.

@predator_boiz336 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 are these bikes super hard to come by?? These are probably my favorite minis I’ve seen as far as looks and style , but I can’t find anyone who’s selling one , not even the frame

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

@@predator_boiz336 They have the Azusa frame at Gokartsusa.com . You can get it in the 5 inch or the 6 inch wheel version.

@rocknrye9273 Жыл бұрын

That normal 212 sounds so much better! I cant imagine the stage 2 on my Hemi on my stand up scoot lol its already pretty quick as it is. But Stage 2 looks real mean ☺. Can't wait to do that hehehe.

@larrypage9201 Жыл бұрын

Diy trick to for stock centrifugal clutches drill holes in it around where the clutch shoes touch it. Higher rpm take off and faster top end

@jacobvance4608 Жыл бұрын

Can you please help and tell me what size bolts you need for the clutch side in all applications like straight chained and torque converter and also for the engine's stock Coleman, 212 and 224 pleaseeee!

@milanp5697 3 ай бұрын

Like your videos! Do you have any advice or video how to eliminate oil sensor on predator ghost? Thanks, Milan

@Black66 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! The Ghost doesn't have one. Check out the Ghost playlist. I show the internals of the Ghost and adding billet parts. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hpZ8fZumyLPcep8.html

@mini0448 Жыл бұрын

U should make a drag bike series put ur race cheetah clutch on one of ur fastest bikes and build a wheelie bar also fully built with a cam bigger than 265 and a aggressive porting would be badazz

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I would like to do a drag bike. I did a stroker on this bike with porting and a 275 cam. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrxonJhqxq25kaM.html

@MOAONAABE Жыл бұрын

those guys look a lot like my rupp from the 60s, techumseh motor. lots of fun

@swayebaybay Жыл бұрын

i love the added gauge view how do you get the footage of that?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's in the GoPro software.

@swayebaybay Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 sweet i’ll check it out!

@porkchopexpress6969 Жыл бұрын

From what I’ve seen in my time, you should rename this “fastest way to get your fix for 500”

@Deonn.1 Жыл бұрын

i have a couple questions fist question is what’s better? a big mini bike frame or the small frames? and i have a predator 212 with vm22 carb and straight pipe and i jetted the carb it have a 125 jet in it but it’s still going slow?any tips?

@justconcentrate9843 Жыл бұрын

Delete gov

@Spacecruizer203 Жыл бұрын

super Dope vid Capt so what would u choose a ghost or GPS tilly 212e stage one 525.oo out the door gov already removed ????

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I like both but for my money, I like the Tilly.

@peterchristlieb Жыл бұрын

I think both combos would benefit greatly with a tighter clutch spring. You hit 30 before the clutch is all the way out.

@ivan.delgadillo10 Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t that mean the acceleration would be slower Becuase there is less rpm spinning the clutch from the tighter spring ? Or am I wrong? Still knew to mini bikes

@peterchristlieb Жыл бұрын

@@ivan.delgadillo10 the tighter spring allows the motor to rev up a little higher before the clutch engages making it come in when the motor starts making torque

@300zxdriver Жыл бұрын

I’m not surprised considering the reason the ghost was made.

@JOSHUALSMATTS 18 күн бұрын

Are there any performances parts made for the GX 160cc engine

@SamanthaMedina-lb5gm 4 ай бұрын

Do u nwwd the kit for the ghost or u csn install alone

@mr.stonerUDX714 Жыл бұрын

Got to luv a flat head!!!

@grinningintheirface2685 Жыл бұрын

Sweet bikes, nice job! Nylon cam gear and glue and screw flywheel are a deal breaker for me. You can get a ducar 212 with an intake and header exhaust upgrade for what you would pay for a ghost motor. You also get an aluminum flywheel rated to 10,000 rpm, adjustable jets on carb, stronger more reinforced crank case, and more torque and horsepower out the box, or get a wildcat 223 and a billet flywheel, both are better than going the predator route, and cost less and out perform the ghost, with a bigger bang for our buck...plus, its not a predator.

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks ! Check out the playlist for many more engines and bike combos.

@scrappyhustler7467 Жыл бұрын

You can just buy a 224 pred it's a ducar reinforced block with wildcat 223 crank with ducar carb only have to change the nylon cam to a 252 or 275 and flywheel to a pvl or billet and my 224 smokes my neighbors ghost.

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I have a Predator 224. Check out the playlist for many combos with the Predator 224. Thanks for watching! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iceodqag1rCUgok.html

@SerDerpALot2015 Жыл бұрын

Can that ghost fit on a Trailmaster Storm?

@mouse6595 Жыл бұрын

Are they reliable engines?

@XFORCE888 2 күн бұрын

Witch one is better

@gnicholsification Жыл бұрын

Is it easier to put a 212 predator in a mototec 105cc or coleman rb100? or does it not matter? the mototec 105cc seems to be a better built mini bike but colemans seem more "user/mode friendly"

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I really don't think it matters much. Both would be pretty easy to do. I think its boils down to personal preference.

@ChrisfromGeorgia Жыл бұрын

Nice! New sub here👍

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Check out the playlist !

@ChrisfromGeorgia Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 Haha!!! Cool channel man. I'm looking into starting another channel. The one I have isn't anything really interesting. Anyways, my cousin's have raced go-karts their whole lives! My Uncle has a shop on his land here in Georgia and builds their karts for them. My oldest cousin has won the WKA Championship a few years ago (can't remember what class off the top of my head) and several trophies over the years. I didn't get into karting until my late 30's. My only claim to fame is that I've raced on Daytona International Speedway. I came in 12th place, but finished the race! That being said, I'm glad I ran across your channel. Looking into building a minibike here soon myself. Thanks for looking out and providing awesome content! Take Care 😎✌️💯

@squirllbait212 Жыл бұрын

First! We gotta go riding sometime. Plus I just picked up a hemi predator from harbor freight yesterday

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thats good they still sell the Hemi !

@squirllbait212 Жыл бұрын

I believe there is 1 more there. I'm waiting for my 18lb springs to come in today.

@lewisgates8861 Жыл бұрын

I've been looking for a non hemi....they have none.....lots of hemis tho....

@mc4492 Жыл бұрын

It’s like bring home a baby from the hospital I think..

@huntintherut4432 Жыл бұрын

Is that valve float or the ignition gov kicking in at 6,000? I was told they come with?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Valve float. I removed the limiter. Check out this video ,I removed the rev limiter and installed a billet flywheel kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otNmrbenzbCsg58.html

@youngkingoni7679 Жыл бұрын

I just bought a ghost last night idk how I feel about it but where did you get those shims at ??

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

GPS has them . I also picked some up from the hardware store with a good bolt bin.

@larryfisher Жыл бұрын

Yeah IAM glad I bought standard , predator n put all the goodies in it cheaper build n better performing,I didn't do modified head just valve springs n went to 65 t rear sprocket 12 clutch 53 mph with stock Coleman cc100x tires 115 main may get lil more now tho went to 125 main n 10.5 slick on back not tested yet

@larryfisher Жыл бұрын

Plug was super clean so figured o may bin lean

@icast.2388 Жыл бұрын

Ekselent job... What will be your choice between predator or duramax if you put 20 lb Springs and Chinese makuni? Thanks

@unknwnoutcast4388 Жыл бұрын

What is the best cam I can get for my 212cc hemi pls help

@geegee9183 5 ай бұрын

Where can I buy bikes like this?

@samsnephew3209 6 ай бұрын

The 6.5 harbor freight black friday is a bargain

@baldbutton1983 Жыл бұрын

2 questions… 1. How are you determining your RPMs? 2. How do you tell the difference between valve float and the limit of the motor or gear?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Valve float is sputtering or cutting on and off at high RPM . Engines that reach the limit with no float will be at max RPM and stay there with no drama. They will simply not rev anymore. In some videos I use a tach for RPM, like in the 224 videos. Others I will use a gear ratio calculator. You plug in tire height, number of teeth on the clutch, number of teeth or the rear sprocket and the calculator will spit out the gear ratio, RPM, and speed.

@baldbutton1983 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 I see. I asked about valve float because I’m at a loss as to why my predator will not get above 6800 rpm. It has a 22mm Mikuni carb, .308 cam, 26# springs (.815 install height), 27/25mm SS valves, billet flywheel and rod, compression ratio of 10.7:1, gearing ratio of 6.667:1 and 20” tires. It’s a heavy yard kart so I’m assuming it’s just the weight. I had .265 cam in before the .308 which actually reached about 300 rpms more than the .308, surprisingly. Can’t figure why I can’t reach the target rpm of 8400 the cam is supposed to reach

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

@@baldbutton1983 Like you said weight of the vehicle. Maybe throw some more gear on there to get that big cam more into its opimal RPM band

@baldbutton1983 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 right, thanks for the reply. Love watching your videos by the way

@baldbutton1983 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 just out of curiosity, I’ve always wondered while watching your videos, why do you choose the smaller cams like the .252 instead of bigger cams like .275, .308, etc?

@keithcola2516 Жыл бұрын

Must be nice man....I live in Philly u leave ur door open and a bike rite next to it by the time ur back both gone!!! LOL

@motosmitty1543 Жыл бұрын

Looking for spring replacements which would be best to eliminating the floating issue?

@TheDonkDonk420 Жыл бұрын

depends on what motor you have and what mods you have as well. Usually people run 18lbs springs and it solves their float issues, but it adds wear on the internals due to higher rmp

@motosmitty1543 Жыл бұрын

@@TheDonkDonk420 Ghost

@Detryie Жыл бұрын

Can I shoot a quick question?

@rawbsworld6604 Жыл бұрын

You said you changed out the header to keep things even, wonder if the HF was or a contributing factor in the lesser performance 🤔 🤷‍♂️…. 🤙

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

No, check out my other Ghost videos. The Ghost definately needs valve springs and billet internals if you want to run it past 6k RPM safely.

@hankcuccina5260 Жыл бұрын

What is a 'short tyre' he refers to??

@cumminscartel1825 5 ай бұрын

I just put the regular 212 in my sons 120cc snowmobile with a 30mm carb, if you pin it anywhere passed half throttle it cuts out. If you ease into full throttle it will go to top speed though. Spark plug is black so I know it's rich, should I lower the needle or start by downsizing the main jet? Thanks in advance

@Black66 5 ай бұрын

If its a PWK check out the tuning video. I would check the main jet. A 30 mm might come with a main jet to big for a stock 212 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ept8a6-l2Meyj5s.html

@cumminscartel1825 5 ай бұрын

@@Black66 OK I'll check it out, thanks!

@jakeowens1770 5 ай бұрын

Hell with speed, what kinda gas mileage you get with two guys on?

@DenverGardner 3 ай бұрын

I bought a little rascal 98 off go Powersports and put a 212 ghost in it and it zipps around 👍

@Black66 3 ай бұрын

👍 Have you seen the Rascal build videos? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rryYfZWmmdy7Z5s.html

@bravojr 5 ай бұрын

Where do you get the Bike Frame it's self?

@Black66 5 ай бұрын

GoKartsusa.com

@babyboy3972 Жыл бұрын

I have a predator 212cc I removed the Governor from the motor added a torque unit and a performance muffler and it tops out at 60 mph

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I bet your bike would give this e-bike a good run!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZaFn8yFuLnbh5c.html

@larrypage9201 Жыл бұрын

I live in Kingman too,I got some extra go kart frames and racing slicks. Maybe we'll could trade some parts?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I don't keep a lot of extra parts. I'm pretty much at max capacity right now for bikes and karts. I don't have a lot of room to store them. . I will sell some of the bikes from time to time to make room.

@hondaboats727 Жыл бұрын

What mm air filter

@Kach1mba101 Жыл бұрын

I've speed 300 on my ghost 20 In a bigger carb 35 on a muffler pipe of my choice and does 53 on straight chain 50 mph on torque converter under 500 and it moves I think ppl think a ghost is a racing engine for mini bikes and forgets is a class engine that's meant to meet a rule book

@jasonjackson329 Жыл бұрын

Where did you find those parts ? I’ve spent 3 days trying to find a better carb / muffler exhaust etc. and they are always for non hemi 212’s. And everything I read says my ghost is a Hemi.

@Kach1mba101 Жыл бұрын

@@jasonjackson329 as Long is 212 it fits unless u want internal or fly wheel

@jasonjackson329 Жыл бұрын

@@Kach1mba101 dam man , I wish I had known they’d fit. Rather not have bought this over priced kit from HF. Price isn’t even 149 anymore. Dam thing was 169 plus tax. 🤦‍♂️

@frankiejsmith6398 Жыл бұрын

I got the reg predator 212 for 20$

@frankiejsmith6398 Жыл бұрын

Mikuni. Are ont he interenet

@larryfisher Жыл бұрын

I got 53 mph 12 t clutch 65 t rear sprocket 212 pred,non hemi 18 lb valve springs billt,rod - arc flywheel 26 mm vm22 115 jet lil lean gonna try 125main n go down to 25 pilot instead 35 cause turn air screw no change with 25 pilot idle rises n falls how you tell it's rughty

@randywatts5923 Жыл бұрын

Where do you get your ape hanger handlebars

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

You could grab them off of an old bike from a yard sale or off of Amazon and places like that. .

@Florin_542 Жыл бұрын

Does the GHOST engine require a High-performance fuel pump?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

No, You can gravity-feed it on a minibike.

@user-tz2vt5hb6k Ай бұрын

It’s the coil. The coil on the ghost only is good for 600 RPMs. So you’re topping out. it says it on the box then you can Google it. So you have to change it out.

@Black66 Ай бұрын

Check out the Ghost playlist. The coil was removed and a billet flywheel added.

@user-tz2vt5hb6k Ай бұрын

@@Black66 yeah but in this video you said it’s topping out. So like I said, it’s most likely the coil. Because on a stock 212 you can get way more out of it. You might’ve bought the wrong coil. And like I said, it says on the box and you can read it online. The ghost coil is only good for 600 RPMs.

@Black66 Ай бұрын

@@user-tz2vt5hb6k In this video I say in the first couple of minutes that I swapped out the Ghost cast flywheel to get rid of the rev limiter. The Ghost was using a billet flywheel and a Predtor coil without the limiter . If you look at the Ghost playlist on the channel , the very first Ghost video was about removing the limiter and adding a billet flywheel.

@user-wf7yk3bc7j 11 ай бұрын

Does a header pipe actually increase your speed? And so by how much

@JGsgarage_unboxings 11 ай бұрын

An engine like these will only go soo fast. The header should increase acceleration at best. But as far as "speed". Not so much.

@BTKsKiPpy 20 күн бұрын

what app is he using to trackspeed

@Black66 20 күн бұрын

I use a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 and digiHUD on the phone for top speed.

@kevinbushey1879 7 ай бұрын

Why is everyone concerned about how fast they can go, I'm more interested about the torque so I can go off road and explore and Have a fun day go fishing on my bike, if I want to go fast on the road it will be in a car or big boy motorcycle.

@mr.liggins9092 10 ай бұрын

I did 65 on a Coleman ex stock

@alexrrr1887 Жыл бұрын

Wowzy

@jaimahja Жыл бұрын

What valve springs do you have in the regular predator that you’re hitting 7800 rpm?

@Deucealive75 Жыл бұрын

That's a good question. The 252 cam calls for 22 pound springs so my guess is that's what he's using.

@jaimahja Жыл бұрын

@@Deucealive75 I was under the impression the ghost comes with 22 lbs valve springs. So for the ghost to be floating valves at 6600rpm, and the regular 212 to be hitting 7800 rpm seemed strange to me 🤔

@Deucealive75 Жыл бұрын

@@jaimahja I don't think anyone has verified what springs are in the Ghost. 22's shouldn't float that soon. And is the Ghost cam's lobe profile the same as the 252 Rattlesnake? I don't think anyone has verified that. Another thing besides valve float is the carbs. He said PZ22. I thought the Ghost came with a PZ20? A VM22 mikuni would out perform that carb and may be the difference in the 0-30.

@jaimahja Жыл бұрын

@@Deucealive75 ghost has the PZ22 and a 252 cam. Could they possibly have not put 22lb springs In the ghost? The forum doesn’t give spring weight just dimensions of the springs.

@Deucealive75 Жыл бұрын

@@jaimahja Not sure but I asked this in black66 other Ghost video and a guy responded saying the Ghost has 22's.

@blakestonebustosrb Жыл бұрын

Are the parts used on the predator 212 compatible to predator ghost??

@roeb3872 Жыл бұрын

What’s the fix for floating valves?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I'll throw some heavier springs in it and try it again.

@roeb3872 Жыл бұрын

Yes sir I’m on it thank you

@davidbarrera1442 Жыл бұрын

How do you know which chain to buy?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I usually use RLV gold on gold or gold on black and then cut it to size with the chain breaker.

@davidbarrera1442 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@bradcarpenter2396 Жыл бұрын

Where can I find frames like you have ❓❓

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

GPS or gokartsusa.com

@bradcarpenter2396 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 thank you. 👍🏻

@jesseshelby4383 Жыл бұрын

I still think I'd build the hemi predator insted of the goast.

@Kach1mba101 Жыл бұрын

Ghost still a hemi

@jjfig4759 Жыл бұрын

If you have a stock 212 sitting around it's worth getting ghost and use in ur tank and exhaust on it then just buy air cleaner for the junk pz22 carb lol

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Check out the ghost playlist. I have tried a few different carbs on the Ghost. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNuTZ5V_l62mqoU.html

@boileaf174 Жыл бұрын

I’ve hit 47.6 mph on the stock Coleman 3hp ohv I am a light rider at only 125 pounds if I did this upgrade hopefully could hit 60 -70

@F1ow3rzzk Жыл бұрын

You have not hit 47.6 on a stock Coleman 3hp💀 that’s got to be modded going that speed

@porkchopexpress6969 Жыл бұрын

* going down a hill, high on meth, running from the po.

@boileaf174 Жыл бұрын

@@porkchopexpress6969 send itttt!!!! Lol

@scrappy7571 Жыл бұрын

Does the 212 hemi make more hp? If so why does anyone buy the non hemi?

@Deucealive75 Жыл бұрын

If the hemi does make more power it's not enough to notice without a stop watch or a dyno. The non hemi is easier for a guy who doesn't have machine tools in his garage to work with than the hemi. With a non hemi you don't even have to think or measure anything to get more compression and use a high lift cam. You can't do that with a hemi. Some guys have removed the hemi head and put on a non hemi head and thin head gasket for a bump in compression and more power than with the hemi head.

@matthewf1979 Жыл бұрын

The Ghost is a bad buy if you’re not spec racing. I think Harbor Freight would even tell you that. You can do even better on the price if you can find a good used predator and buy a parts package from the usual suspects.

@Kach1mba101 Жыл бұрын

When u buy the engine u have to approve that you are buying a kart class racing engine not a street legal engine

@Mrmatt-pt3xm Жыл бұрын

Throttle cable isn’t right on the azuza

@babyboy3972 Жыл бұрын

And still with them lighter frames you should be alot faster than 60 mph at top speed

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

The bikes were set up in this video to reach max RPM to compare the two engines. Not all out top speed. Here are a couple videos with more top speed on the same bikes. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bt2GgMd1udvYgIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9R-h8xyuqveYmw.html

@matthewhallman6464 Жыл бұрын

Where is he getting $500 for the standard predator? The regular 212 here is $149 and the ghost is $239

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I added approximately $350 worth of billet parts into the standard Predator. Add another $149 for the cost of the engine and you come out to around $500. The Ghost is $349 plus the header pipe and billet flywheel that I had to add to get rid of the rev limiter so it would have half a chance of competing with the standard Predator with billet parts. I have around $ 500 in each engine in total.

@andrewrenner730 Жыл бұрын

I have a ghost on a torque converter and she goes 60-65mph.

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Sweet! Check out the Ghost playlist for more combos on the Ghost! Thanks for watching!kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a62inN2UysfDhZs.html

@michaelrock8970 Жыл бұрын

This does not seem accurate at all. It shows the HF accessory kit and accounts for it in cost but dosent use it at all. Im curious about using the actual curved long runner intake thats in the accessory kit and their header. This is only good for longblock to longblock comparison. plus the price would vary much more also considering time put into the 212 plus shipping costs. labor is not cheap. your looking at 750$ plus realistically for the 212 build compared to an out the box engine.

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Check out the Ghost playlist! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbR6lamSqsvHgYE.html

@mrbottomfeeder Жыл бұрын

Cheap is good. 👍👍😎

@YaMommaLuvMe909 2 ай бұрын

Standard predator engines are going for $150? Where’d you get your pricing my guy 😂😂

@Black66 2 ай бұрын

Remember, the prices on these engines don't always stay the same . That being said, even if the standard Predator comes out to a little more IMO I still think a billet Predator is a much better value.The Ghost is good but it has a cast rod and flywheel with a glued on magnet that should be changed out for safety. At least the flywheel.

@Mosryt Жыл бұрын

Do you need a license to drive these

@king_venom_815 Ай бұрын

No but the cops will take them if your just riding them around

@babyboy3972 Жыл бұрын

How you pay 500$ for a 212cc predator motor I only payed 260$

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I had to add a billet flywheel and an after-market coil to the ghost to get rid of the rev limiter .

@babyboy3972 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 still I only payed 263$ for my predator motor removed the Governor from the motor and added a torque unit and muffler I haven't touched nothing else in the motor and it tops out at 60 mph....you changed the carburetor on it the fly wheel on it and for some reason it's not getting any faster than mine

@babyboy3972 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 you should be topping out at 70 to 80 mph with all the upgrades you've been adding

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

@@babyboy3972 Elevation is a big factor in the way A bike runs as far as jetting and speed.

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

@@babyboy3972

@lewisgates8861 Жыл бұрын

Hf told me today they were gonna quit selling the non hemi predator.... anyone else heard that.....

@Deucealive75 Жыл бұрын

@Elijah Scott LeFever I'll take the straight valve legacy head over a hemi. One of the main reasons I got a 224 was because of the legacy head. Minibike and go kart guys want the hemi. A guy getting an engine for his log splitter could care less if he gets a hemi or not.

@Deucealive75 Жыл бұрын

Lewis Gates. If they stop selling the non hemi 212 and you want a non hemi, get a 224. The extra $40 or so is worth it.

@cubanlnkchico9864 Жыл бұрын

Yuup straight BS Bro they don't sell to Fla anymore 😤 NO more hemi 🤢🤮

@cubanlnkchico9864 Жыл бұрын

@Elijah Scott LeFever what are u taking about bro has a flat head

@DevvonO 29 күн бұрын

212 predator is not a $500 engine it’s not even $200

@Black66 29 күн бұрын

Yes, but with the mods added to the Predator 212 it comes out to about $500. Watch the fantastic video to see the results! Thanks for watching!

@domturiace670 7 ай бұрын

looks like your throttle cable is falling off

@Black66 7 ай бұрын

It's hard to remember.This video is over a year old. Check out the ghost playlist for many newer ghost videos.

@mr.liggins9092 6 ай бұрын

Ghost all day

@Black66 6 ай бұрын

Check put the ghost playlist for many different part combos with the Ghost

@Spacecruizer203 Жыл бұрын

or a Ec Carbs 223 wildcat stage oned hmmmmm decisions decisions

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

The Wildcat is sweet because it has a 58MM stroke!

@Spacecruizer203 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 so since i already have the ducar go wit the 223 but im hearing the top is only good for a paper weight

@Spacecruizer203 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 if there was a 223 in one hand and a tilly estart both staged oned i mean what would make me be like oh shiiiit lol mind u i only drove a ducar my whole life this is all new to me still Mr Black

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

@@Spacecruizer203 You wont go wrong with either one. If you are truly tired of pulling the rope than the e-start is good. It already comes with a decent flywheel but if want to upgrade later You can get a billet rod and flywheel for the e-start . Quite a few different Cams are simple to drop in. They make good power. You need a battery for the e-start. The 223 is good to but your gonna have to pull the rope. You can mod it to get really good power. Sometimes it's a little more involved as far as clearancing stuff for the 58mm stroke when modding.