$150 Honda Clone vs $600 Honda? Let’s settle this! Fuel Efficiency, Horsepower, Durability, Starting

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Жыл бұрын

Is the Honda clone just as good as the Honda? Is the Honda better than the Harbor Freight's Predator and Briggs and Stratton Engines? All engines compared for fuel efficiency, oil consumption, noise and vibration during a 48-hour test. Used oil samples sent to an oil testing lab to provide information on wear metals. Engines also compared for torque and horsepower. I bought the engines, fuel to test the engines and all supplies to ensure an unbiased review. So, thank you for supporting the channel.
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@AxfNPn3l Жыл бұрын

Genuine product vs knock-off is one of my favorite guilty pleasures on this channel. I love seeing if you can still get your money's worth if the discount is enough and not many people besides Project Farm cover this kind of thing.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!!

@anzov1n Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't even call it a guilty pleasure, it's a legitimately useful service.

@waterboy5164 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Can you make one of the best wood splitters! Thanks so much

@TimeSurfer206 Жыл бұрын

@Don't Read My Profile Picture OK, I didn't.

@thepewplace1370 Жыл бұрын

I refuse to support IP theft with my money, but I agree it is still good to see someone doing these comparisons that show just how cheaply made the fakes are.

@Rottiezucco1 Жыл бұрын

My 24 yo son who is just now getting into building things. Just bought several tools and told me he watched your videos prior to purchasing. Makes a father proud! Thanks for doing what you do 👍

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

@steveniksid5874 Жыл бұрын

PF sure saves from learning the hard expensive way.

@thantawa Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm When you say lbs can you add kg into the text on screen?

@us1fedvet Жыл бұрын

Great test. I’m disheartened the Briggs has been cheapened up as it has. Used to be as good of small engines as you could get for a reasonable price.

@steveniksid5874 Жыл бұрын

@@us1fedvet I agree! I have a B&S 8hp generator from the 70's and it starts on the 2nd pull... it's like a American made Honda. Unfortunately I would not buy anything with a B&S engine today😢

@larion2336 4 ай бұрын

If only all YT videos were like this... absolutely no padding or wasted time, just content packed with value. I'm not even that interested in engines and I still watched the whole thing.

@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@michaelb.42112 Ай бұрын

This is the best comparison video on any product I've ever seen. No wonder he has 3.5 million subs.

@MikeHull4855 Ай бұрын

I love his tight video editing and slight speed up of the audio explanation, it gets the content delivered quicker and is a more efficient use of the viewers / my time. The thought planning and execution of all of his videos has the inner geek in me grinning on some of the next level items he uses as testing statistics for his tests, always valuable and useful in giving a straightforward unbiased review. Good stuff!

@bloxzgamer1670 Жыл бұрын

The effort this guy has gone through just to make a 14 min video is amazing, keep up the amazing work

@TheOzthewiz 6 ай бұрын

His test of motor oils was simply AMAZING. The detailed testing, had my head spinning!

@centripetal25 Ай бұрын

its not "just" a 14 min video. its for millions of views and the associated income generated

@BigDipper79 Жыл бұрын

I tell you what for $150 bucks you can’t go wrong with that Predator engine. What a great review you did. Absolutely the best review channel on KZfaq. Thank you!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@Back_door_bandit_98 Жыл бұрын

Honestly it’s probably the better buy than the Honda considering you can buy 3 to 4 of them for the price of 1 Honda and they are pretty comparable to the Honda.

@noidontthinksolol Жыл бұрын

@@Back_door_bandit_98 a honda will last you much much longer. and the predator in the video had more CC than the others

@davidelliott5843 Жыл бұрын

Will the Honda last more than 3x as long as the knock offs?

@noidontthinksolol Жыл бұрын

@@davidelliott5843 absolutely

@J_Urban_ Жыл бұрын

Love that you went the extra mile and sent the oil off for testing. As always, fantastic real-world reviews.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@johnanderson3405 Жыл бұрын

@Don't Read My Profile Picture Don’t be an idiot. 🤦‍♂️

@robertlawrence9000 Жыл бұрын

@Don't Read My Profile Picture why spam instead of constructive talk? You might learn something

@johnnall1671 Жыл бұрын

I read some where that you are not to use Senti oil in an new engine.the rings can't seat.during break in

@COSMACELF1802 Жыл бұрын

Good point, perhaps he should run the engines for another 500 hours and redo the oil testing.

@tbluge 6 ай бұрын

I put a Predator 212 engine on a log splitter and never looked back the thing rocks. But what I really want to say is thank you for these entertaining and educational videos. I know you're making some money on these but the time , energy, and complexity you put into them has got to be the main reason very few if any other people are doing this level of comparrison videos. Really great. To an extent it has to be a labor of love. And i'm sure like many , its a major factor when purchasing. I can't imagine the amount of solicitation you get for products.

@ProjectFarm 6 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

@feelnrite 2 ай бұрын

I have one on a chipper I crack corn with and run it alot. It always starts on the first pull.

@metric6bolt169 Жыл бұрын

Man, ı can see how much effort and time spent on these tests absolutely deserves a like and share

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@TheOzthewiz 6 ай бұрын

This guy is the "new" Mr. Wizard (Don Herbert), for those of you OLD enough to remember!

@user-fo4ve5fo4z 4 ай бұрын

Great videos but afterward I want him to break them apart and see how they are made. I believe the Honda's use quality bearings on their cranks and pistons and have better attention to detail on the internals that mean longevity. Same with their generators, just better quality parts, like the old Maytag washing machines.

@GaTy0311 Жыл бұрын

I know this has to be a repeat comment but, my god, the amount of effort put into these videos is astounding! Not just on the mechanical testing side but content editing! It is appreciated!

@bigbossimmotal Жыл бұрын

Many, MANY years ago, consumer reports used to do testing like this. I haven't seen anyone do such a transparent, unbiased, complete analysis in decades. Really great work.

@captainwin6333 Жыл бұрын

@@bigbossimmotal Which magazine does.

@FelonyVideos Жыл бұрын

Really great core work here, and as an aside (but important to me) is that the cadence of the video is swift - saves me time, generally. Usually, I have to run most videos at 2X speed just to bare watching. Project Farm hits my comprehension comfort level at 1.5X. And, man, the thoroughness is impeccable. I bet manufacturers absolutely HATE this guy, LOL! Go ahead, try and cut a corner here or there, he'll bust ya wide open!

@markmcleod5079 Жыл бұрын

These are amazingly thorough videos. Todd probably makes cousin Eddie do all the farming by day and editing by night (he doesn't need a lot of sleep) so he can prep and perform all these great tests. Thank you Todd and cousin Eddie!

@Apollyon67 Жыл бұрын

Project Farm is the Gold Standard for testing. Consistent and thorough.

@joshsopczak1 Жыл бұрын

This man is a national treasure! We are blessed to have someone to provide us wrenchers with all this unbiased data. Cheers to you, and looking forward to many more videos!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! This means a lot to me!

@johnlong384 Жыл бұрын

Yes he is and he'd be even better / easier to understand for an alien (like me) if he'd talk about 25% slower!

@semiauto3148 Жыл бұрын

I’ve bought quiet a few of the products he tests simply because of the videos he puts out!!!! Thanks project farm. Keep up the great work….

@SyberSqueegy Жыл бұрын

@@johnlong384 There is a function on KZfaq that allows you to adjust the playback speed. (the little speedometer icon)

@jplona Жыл бұрын

@@johnlong384 you can select playback speed of .75 by clicking the gear icon.

@brianh.000 9 ай бұрын

I love how comprehensive and detail-oriented these tests are. I appreciate all this number crunching for the final results!

@ProjectFarm 9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@JohnDoe-df2zz 9 ай бұрын

I've been a Honda small engine fan since using my family's wood splitter with a Honda motor as a teen. I borrowed the splitter last year, which is now about 30 years old. Engine started first pull and ran without an issue through a couple of cords of wood. The engine gets little maintenance- typical splitter it is used a few hours a year then stored for the next year. I'm just amazed at the longevity of this thing. Last year I bought my own Iron Oak splitter with a Honda motor and it's been great.

@ProjectFarm 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@somewhere-n-Texas Ай бұрын

Thats incredible, wow! 💪💪💪

@TBPony Жыл бұрын

This is nostalgia of original project farm, good to see an honest showdown. Please make more like this

@thedude7726 Жыл бұрын

100 yes! I think he had to stop those kind of videos. Think of how many push mowers he blew up that summer for us

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@jetjazz05 Жыл бұрын

A lot of people saying thanks for what you do, and I absolutely agree; but the thing that makes me happiest is to see you doing these tests with joy. It's nice to see after all these years you've kept doing a service to us all but also still get joy from the work. I hope you're as happy as your videos let on, the content is terrific.

@SOLOW65 Жыл бұрын

I completely agree. Todd is a class act 100%

@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 Жыл бұрын

Repent to Jesus Christ “For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭1‬:‭7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ht

@TheCrystalGlow Жыл бұрын

@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 yea no… that’s ok. Religion isn’t for me. This isn’t the place for your propaganda.

@apfelsnutz 2 ай бұрын

This is a really great comparason video !!! Thank you for sharing your time and money...

@ProjectFarm 2 ай бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@Bachanus 10 ай бұрын

Very Nice. I always use Honda. I am in the concrete business. I have 2 trowel machines with the GX160 engines. I just add oil when they turn off. One is 28 years old and the other is 25. Back in the day we only got 3 years off of Briggs. Havent gotten the opportunity to even test any other engines. They worth every penny to me.

@ProjectFarm 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

@WASTED__POTENTIAL Жыл бұрын

Predator is a legitimate brand in the small engine racing community. Harbor Freight even sells a dedicated cart racing engine now with racing accessories (intake, exhaust, fuel pump, etc). That would be an interesting test to throw that one in the mix.

@TBPony Жыл бұрын

There's a dude who put a predator engine in his Honda and started tricking out the engine for more power using those racing parts.. edit: and yes it works and it works surprisingly well

@flb78 Жыл бұрын

@@TBPony project cantina

@rosapercs4524 Жыл бұрын

Predator ghost racing engine isn’t nothing special nor worth the ridiculous price. If you know a lot about small power sports building and racing you know you could get way better engines for less than $500

@Nathankinamorh Жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight has it's pros & cons that's for sure.

@Dan-gj1hz Жыл бұрын

@@rosapercs4524 I can walk into my local HF right now and get a ghost race engine for $300. They are not $500.

@TimeBucks Жыл бұрын

another exceptional video

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@shorifulislam7362 Жыл бұрын

Nice

@savanchavan5313 Жыл бұрын

Nice

@LaxmanYadav-kj6he Жыл бұрын

Super

@ramzankhan4770 Жыл бұрын

Good job

@GriseldaBlanco-kt2to 3 ай бұрын

Wow your level of in depth equal comparison, subbed right away! Straight to the point!

@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

@charlesgall7829 7 ай бұрын

You really do a thorough job. I appreciate how much work that goes into each test.

@ProjectFarm 7 ай бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@Altavilla22Mike Жыл бұрын

As an engineer, I really appreciate your attention to detail and dedication to creating scientific worthy tests that can be repeated and measured with high precision. I picture you having a closet filled to the brim with testing instruments for all types of data like I do. It takes meticulous planning and organization to conduct these tests and I enjoy watching them.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@texasjetman Жыл бұрын

I agree he has a very good sense of judgment and great detail explaining

@thekingsilverado3266 Жыл бұрын

I watch this guy at times he is pretty accurate.

@n6cid Жыл бұрын

Any engineer can design something to last forever! It takes a great engineer to design something to fail right after the warranty expires....:)

@magnificentmuttley154 Жыл бұрын

*@Barry Thompson* Good god, aint that the truth? Of course, anyone who knows how things were made 70, 50, even 30 years ago can see how pathetically inferior most "consumer products" are now. So by that measure, you could be an "anybody" engineer & become great to your customers simply by making something that makes sense & lasts. Instead of a design philosophy of "noble simplicity," "what is simpler thicker heavier is better," its been "thinner lighter more plastic zero metal more electronic more sophisticated less reliable is most profitable"

@stevethedonful Жыл бұрын

The level of commitment for these tests is absolutely phenomenal 👌

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@trvman1 Жыл бұрын

When will he do a video comparing ex-wives or ex-girlfriends to new ones? :) :)

@KoldKillaC 15 күн бұрын

I love your channel! Your comparisons are honest and straight forward! Thanks for what you do!

@ProjectFarm 15 күн бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@user-eg8hb8xt3j 4 ай бұрын

This was an an insane amount of effort ! Liked and subbed . Great comparison !

@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

@rsc4peace971 Жыл бұрын

This is by far the best and the most trustworthy comparative test of most of the common products that we all either own or may buy during our lifetimes at least here in the USA. I have followed PF for over 4 years now as well bought many industrial products from simple tools to some big appliances based PF reviews. Every one of them has stood up to the recommendations over that time and I expect they are the best value for every buck I had spent. We all owe a great deal to PF for his unbiased and thorough in-use testing, evaluation and recommendations

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@bryanteel3046 Жыл бұрын

I agree!

@kevinballuff1164 Жыл бұрын

Very very good test. I personally prefer the predator, I've absolutely used the crap out of the predators before and they handled it. My personal experience is predator gives more bang for the buck.

@mariuszmariusz7788 Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm however, for the test to be complete, there should be long-distance test and then a retest comparison. So what if the predator has results when, for example, after 100 working hours could be a rubble. Anyway ❤ ;)

@mariuszmariusz7788 Жыл бұрын

@@kevinballuff1164 Hi Kevin, what about predator’s long term durability? Could be good or (…) I guess honda could be best value after long-term test. E.g Ryobi is powerful (price vs Nm etc) but only for weekend jobs not often, otherwise lifetime will be short.. therefore ryobi manufacturer has in portfolio aeg or milwaeukee for small/business. Br, Mariusz

@mythnlore Жыл бұрын

For anyone new to the channel, this could be 14 days worth of prep-work, recording, analysing, and editing, boiled down to 14 minutes of what we want to see.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@tamtri6218 Жыл бұрын

@pochuanhsing2466 Жыл бұрын

Great comparison

@diy_eric Жыл бұрын

The host has a nice fast delivery without feeling rushed and the quality and professionalism is great!

@snowpoo8706 Жыл бұрын

this video is nothing short of amazing

@torque4538 Жыл бұрын

This guys always put out awesome videos and helpful information from the start. keep it up man! Glad you’re still making awesome content.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@a.s.4914 Жыл бұрын

I've never and will never use half the things tested on this channel. Yet I see a new video come up and I'm like, cool project farm! 😁 Love your tests and the time and length of all your different trials of whatever you happen to be testing. Thanks Project Farm, keep up the good work. 👍

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@dlewis9760 Жыл бұрын

Heck, I don't even know what a quarter of things sometimes are used for. I still watch. That's how you learn.

@daisykaren6584 Жыл бұрын

I most likely you will used a gasoline engine even if not a horizontal one. I wounder what that Brigs was use for.

@johnayres7302 Жыл бұрын

Lot of knowhow in devising these tests and making it interesting. I love it

@a.s.4914 Жыл бұрын

@@dlewis9760 that's what it's about. My bro in law was looking for a power washer. The brand he was looking at I saw on this channel. I said you'd better watch this, and sent him the episode. He bought the winner of the test instead of his original pick. 😉 There's also one more subscriber to this channel after that.

@KingJojoB Жыл бұрын

If you didn’t come from tiktok raise your hand 🤚🏽

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

I didn't start a tiktok account.

@usernameisusername Жыл бұрын

I like tic tacs

@KingJojoB Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm I’ve seen your content on there from people reposting it.

@flickboogers9325 Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm And that's why we love you man!

@Novaah803 Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm those Chinese accounts getting lots of views by reposting your content I’m sure! We love you here!

@hankcuccina5260 2 ай бұрын

I don't think i've seen such a thorough video in the realm of small engine testing. Excellent.

@ProjectFarm 2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Aglae-xl8zm Ай бұрын

your way of explaining is so soothing and easy to follow!

@ProjectFarm Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@alpham777 Жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight is just killing it these days. Also many thanks as usual for the amount of work you put in for us folks to guide us in the right way.

@fredrhodes Жыл бұрын

There stuff works just fine for most for sure!

@alpham777 Жыл бұрын

@@fredrhodes Indeed but they are slowly but surely creeping into the professionals space all my guys are switching over as stuff breaks. And I even used to say but yeah it's all Chinese made, and yeah it is for the most part but so is everything else outside of a few overpriced legacy brands and even that often is. Although if you want affordable American made look to the hammers Vaughan and Estwing they are still doing it right at least.

@m.g.540 Жыл бұрын

HF has upped the products and the prices, and lack of 20 percent off coupons

@Apollo-Computers Жыл бұрын

@@alpham777 I use an estwing everyday for my own 30 years, plus however long my father used it before he died. They are amazing.

@jimb8842 Жыл бұрын

@@shystermagoo6823 You mean the recalled ones where the welds would break? Killer for sure.

@curtismakes Жыл бұрын

Okay, okay, alright, you got me. I've been watching these for years, but this is the last straw. This one was so well done, and so useful, and so awesome that I'm signing up on Patreon right now to support this whole thing. You leave me no choice.

@garrettdog123 Жыл бұрын

PROJECT FARM FOR LIFE! lmao but seriously always great videos and covers absolute all questions most would ask. I dont think Ive ever seen a video where something was missed unless it was an odd request but even then he takes them into consideration as well for most videos! Amazing job PF thanks for the great content as always :)

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@timkis64 Жыл бұрын

you never cease to amaze me.the time & expense to film these videos, plus the mountains of data to keep track of.your success is well earned for all the work & time spent behind the planning & execution of your short videos.well done todd.MUCH respect sir.

@silvergrizzly316 Жыл бұрын

You're exactly right timkis! Todd deserves ever cent he earns bcoz he absolutely works for it $$$ 👍👍

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@mattclifton6516 Жыл бұрын

Just a few years ago you could get the Predator engine for just $99 with the 1 year warranty. We used to put them on our racing go karts and they held up surprising well with the governor removed. There's actually two different styles of engines and they look identical except for the valve cover. The hemi version is the one you were testing in the video with a rectangle cast valve cover. The non hemi version has a octagon shape valve cover. The hemi version seems to last longer than the non hemi version but you have more upgrade accessories for the non hemi version. I've seen guy get 25hp out of the predator with upgrades. Great video.

@ignaciojr.356 Жыл бұрын

I got a Non-Hemi with a billet flywheel, jetted stock carb, governor removed, 22lb valve springs, billet rod, flat top piston, high compression head gasket, a straight pipe header and a mild stage 2 cam with a torque converter and it gets my BT200x to 52 mph. They're rockets

@BKD70 Жыл бұрын

I've got a Hemi on my log splitter, and 2 non-Hemi's on a pair of pressure washers. The hemi definitely starts easier than the non-Hemi's. BTW... I think the Hemi is made by Loncin, and the non-Hemi is made by RATO, as best I can tell.

@jarredri Жыл бұрын

@@BKD70 same I replaced a worn out brig's with a 212 predator and the splitter works better than it ever worked just run it barley above an idle and it splits everything

@2alawabidingcitzen Жыл бұрын

My hemi put that out its billetproof

@bubbatennessee7531 2 ай бұрын

A few years ago, just about everything was a half price, thanks to Bidenomics

@jeremydewayneellis 3 ай бұрын

Amazing work that you do. Thank you for all the research and sharing with us.

@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@photohounds 3 ай бұрын

Excellent vid as usual! Cheers from Australia

@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@stevew6138 Жыл бұрын

You never let the community down with these great tests and reviews. Thanx Bro.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@xDman383 Жыл бұрын

I can only imagine the hilarious sight of someone stumbling onto your farm and seeing a guy in a go cart towing a tractor with a mannequin on it lol. Always love seeing your videos. You are truly a godsend when it comes to KZfaq content creators!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@sparkywirenut Жыл бұрын

I was wondering if the chinese spy balloon caught this on camera and are wondering WTF is going on down there ? lol

@danielbeck9191 Жыл бұрын

My favorite was when you tested electric-heat jackets by having Cousin Ed ride on top of FARM-A-BAGO!

@zensamurai6582 9 ай бұрын

Once again, I search for something and your channel has the video on it! Hand down one of the very best DIY channels. Thank you! Regards from UK

@ProjectFarm 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@dgreen1069 3 ай бұрын

Your testing methodology is always solid. Thanks for all the great content.

@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

@LancoAmish Жыл бұрын

The 6.5 predator engines are quite popular among the Amish for their field implements like hay rakes. Very durable and at 1/3 the price quite the bargain where one can be kept in stock on the farm for emergencies. I haven’t heard of a failure yet.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@jgood325 Жыл бұрын

Wasn't expecting to see a comment from another Lancaster viewer when I clicked this video!

@dkis8730 Жыл бұрын

I thought the Amish used horses n shit

@LancoAmish Жыл бұрын

@@dkis8730, they do use horses but many use small gas engines on equipment rather than ground drive.

@hugolafhugolaf Жыл бұрын

@@dkis8730 Nah, they don't use electricity, but they use just about everything else. You should see some shops... they have some sick ass pneumatic systems you could only dream of.

@riccochet704 Жыл бұрын

Those Predator engines are a great value. Also crazy the amount of aftermarket there is for them.

@racerex340 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I live in an area where they're quite popular replacement engines, people use them for everything. As long as you don't severely abuse them and maintain them, they seem to be not only quite reliable, but also incredibly cheap to repair. I have a buddy that heavily modifies them for go cart usage, using big bore kits and such, and when he does break them, depending on what breaks, it's often cheaper to buy a brand new predator than it would be to replace a broken bottom end of a Honda or Briggs.

@thebagnechannel3183 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I’m glad the Predator tested well since I have that on our go-cart.

@FoolOfATuque Жыл бұрын

Predator engines are pretty great. We gutted the one we put on my nephews go kart and it really cranks out the horsepower.

@tracywagoner4907 Жыл бұрын

I use the 22hp Predator twin cyl only modified with electric fuel pump and better spark plug for replacement skid steer engine. 45 hours and still going strong after some pretty abusive use

@ZoonCrypticon Жыл бұрын

But they are produced in China (Honda in Thailand). If it comes to a show-down between USA and China, I wouldn´t be sure, if I wanted Chinese products on the markets, as the sabotage risk would be high.

@enumrob 9 ай бұрын

Amazing comprehensive test. I've used predator engines for years. I had one that wasn't correct right out of the box but all of the others have treated me well. We're on a small farm that has a lot of gas powered equipment so we've had a bit of everything over the years.

@ProjectFarm 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

@fredberghoff9917 5 ай бұрын

Another great video!!! Glad you included cousin Eddie. That's the Christmas spirit!

@MarkCarr331 Жыл бұрын

Yes!!! This has been a long debate! Thank you for doing what you do for the community.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@aaronpowell4885 Жыл бұрын

Surprising results! Honda has been a rock solid small engine brand in my opinion. But I just assumed the clones were all about the same, pretty good for the price but a far cry from Honda. Great to know the predator is a viable option on a budget👍🏻

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@94eg8h-t4 Жыл бұрын

Speaking as someone that's worked on hundreds of small engines; the true Honda clones. The ones that are part for part copies of a real GX engine are usually about 98% as good as the real thing for a quarter of the price.

@alanlo-557 Жыл бұрын

I have a 212 cc in my Toro single stage snowblower made by Loncin. I have read on forums that the Harbor Freight Predator 212 is a suitable replacement if you should happen to need one for whatever reason. After this video, I have no doubt about that being true.

@oi32df Жыл бұрын

'made in Thailand' like many of their small equipment like generator , etc.

@isaakwelch3451 Жыл бұрын

It's impressive that for all the junk HF sells that the Predators are so good. I've got one on a kart that I absolutely thrash and it takes it like a champ

@optimusrhymz2226 Ай бұрын

Excellent 👌 breakdown... best I've seen on KZfaq.

@ProjectFarm Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@alexwilliams4217 27 күн бұрын

Your channel is awesome, good information. I'm a Honda and Toyota man, I love videos that prove why!

@ProjectFarm 27 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@HoosierDaddy_ Жыл бұрын

I've watched you for years and I just want to tell you that your videos are superb! Thanks for keeping it sponsor free! I base many purchases off of your videos.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@Buc_Stops_Here Жыл бұрын

I have owned three of these engines, each quite a few years. Honda, Briggs & Stratton, and the Predator all for a well pump. The first motor, the Predator, lasted only 4 years before burning out. The Briggs & Stratton lasted 6 years. The Honda we have not replaced yet after 9 years. This test mirrors our experience with the motors. The Honda is the most expensive, but the most durable. When the motor dies (as we expect it will soon) we will just get another Honda. They are really unsurpassed in motor durability.

@that.schamp Жыл бұрын

Last I checked, Thailand wasn't using their Navy to encroach on other countries fisheries and sending spy balloons to scope out our nuclear bases while planning to invade our allies and sink our aircraft carriers. With the other three Engines being made in China, the reliable Honda is an easy choice.

@rockrl98 Жыл бұрын

What went out on the Predator and Briggs, did you do any maintenance?

@howardsimpson489 Жыл бұрын

Just put up solar panels and electric pump.

@saltinecracker2946 Жыл бұрын

4 years for $150, and 10 years for $400… works out pretty well

@random6809 Жыл бұрын

@Sam S At the 150 vs. 600 as per the video, you would be better getting the clones and replacing them. Assuming a failure rate of 10 years for the Honda and 4 years for the clone, you could purchase 4 clones equalling 16 years for the same cost as one Honda.

@DavidMcbrady 8 ай бұрын

YOU - make the most awesome, reliable and trustworthy review videos. Your video format has been copied by other KZfaqrs because it is so good. Thank you for all the time you take to make these videos! I enjoy them immensely while at my dinner table. Great job sir!!

@ProjectFarm 8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@jhill4874 Жыл бұрын

You are like the America's Test Kitchen of tech. Your analysis of best quality vs. best value is always welcome.

@thebeardedone1225 Жыл бұрын

I've purchased dozens of predator engines, and have yet to have any complaints. Most of my swap outs were on garden tillers, mainly because they adapt better to different brands and their bolt patterns. Great little engines for their price.

@paulpiatt5610 Жыл бұрын

I am debating on swapping out the gas golf cart engine for one of these. (Predator).

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@DieselRamcharger Жыл бұрын

@@paulpiatt5610 Predator is Lifan. They are good engines. The 224's are a different manufacture of lesser quality.

@daylongdriver1 Жыл бұрын

Garden tillers get run on angles and even fall over running so they starve for oil. Use their oil up and keep going as it's only another row and not use it again for another year.

@thebeardedone1225 Жыл бұрын

@daylongdriver1 one great thing about the modern predator motor is the low oil cut off. The only two times a tiller was brought back to me for not starting, this was the issue both times. Added a half a cup of oil, and they started right up.

@majbach1968 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Another incredible video. I've noticed over the years the value of the products you test is gradually increasing. You're obviously making a good (and much deserved) living off of your channel. I'm curious if it started off with a business model or just as a hobby that evolved on its own to what it is today. Either way, you have earned the trust of a lot of people and entertain 100s of thousands every week. I've bought two of your shirts and will soon sign up as a patron in order to help ensure your channel continues just the way it is. Thank you.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@nickkaplan6585 Жыл бұрын

You make the best comparison videos! I always look for one of your videos before I buy a new tool. I just bought a gas powered air compressor and would have loved to see you test the most popular brands. It would be pretty expensive but a gas powered air compressor comparison test would be awesome and I’m sure very popular. Maybe the big makers would give or at least use one for the testing. Keep up the great work! Thanks!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.

@sylvenreed7225 Ай бұрын

I sure do appreciate these videos! Thank you for such diligent testing!

@ProjectFarm Ай бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@Swordsman37 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely love this “knock-off vs genuine” content! It’s scary to think that a fake looks so similar and can easily be made to look real with little effort. Great video!

@thepewplace1370 Жыл бұрын

That is what the scammers count on: the ten foot view has them looking near identical. It's not until it's in hand and they already have your money that you realize it's nowhere near the the same as the product they stole the IP of (at which point, the dents, dings, misaligned holes and that cheap China plastics smell are just bonuses they include for free).

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!!

@Crotch_Goblin1 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but they copied final product.... Honda needed to do R$D from scratch... Hence the price... People don't understand that

@D3AThCAl2DS Жыл бұрын

@@Crotch_Goblin1 honda didn't do good in the QA and real world division on these little engines. not to mention all the metal shavings in the oil they left for the user.

@theshowersinger6681 Жыл бұрын

Look at the ‘90s Hyundais. They always tried to mimic the look of Camry or Accord. It’s the fake it until you make it theory.

@ironbomb6753 Жыл бұрын

I like how these videos have been made more efficient by getting right into the details we want to know, and some details we didn't know we needed. 👍

@artsmith103 Жыл бұрын

Then I watch them at 1.25x speed. Have to pay close attention.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Shifty761989 3 ай бұрын

Wow, thanks for the effort put into this video

@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

@superdivemaster 4 ай бұрын

Great comprehensive video !!!

@ProjectFarm 4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@martinalzugaray 9 ай бұрын

This video is amazing, like all his videos. Your comparisons are really helpful. Thank you very much for enriching the content of the platform... this is the best channel 👋👋👋

@ProjectFarm 9 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@kenabeling6586 Жыл бұрын

Great video! I bought the same Predator engine you tested three years ago and have not had a problem with it. It's nice to hear that it stacks up against the much more expensive engines for heck of a lot less money!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

@gavmansworkshop5624 Жыл бұрын

Predator all the way 🤙

@vantruongthi9105 Жыл бұрын

@jameskelly9858 Жыл бұрын

Predator is the way to go for sure

@meme-yc4ks Жыл бұрын

More engineering was put into this than the actual engineers who designed them. Great work.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@giangtruc3376 Жыл бұрын

@thoakim673 Жыл бұрын

@tamtran-lx6zr Жыл бұрын

@Phormify Жыл бұрын

Especially considering the "engineering" for the Honda clone and the Predator involved buying a Honda engine and having someone copy the design as closely as they could while using slightly less expensive materials! I have to give Honda engineers credit for designing the gold standard for small engines. It is always interesting to see various brands of snowblowers, lawnmowers, and pressure sprayers etc. which slap a "Powered by Honda" sticker in a predominant location. It seems people know what quality is and they are willing to pay for it. That said, I'm sure for most users the Predator engine would probably work very well and last for many years.

@MannoMax 6 күн бұрын

Thanks for this video, really helped me pick a replacement motor for my compactor 👍🏻

@ProjectFarm 6 күн бұрын

You are welcome! Glad to hear!

@sdshawn29 9 ай бұрын

Another great test review, your the best keep up the great work.

@justinalias2279 Жыл бұрын

Really love your format, you don't waste any time and get right into the comparative results in every test!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@AffordBindEquipment Жыл бұрын

and no head banging music...

@jonny555ive Жыл бұрын

@@AffordBindEquipment Nothing wrong with the music, especially the head banging music !!!!! 🤘🤘

@akdm82 Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

@annders8264 Жыл бұрын

Best part about the power of the Honda clone is that it also says 4.0kW, which would be 5.4HP - so this engine has 3 different values for advertised power.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Great point!

@tomrogers9467 Жыл бұрын

At the dealerships we call them “One Tank Wonders”.

@tristan6509 Жыл бұрын

He said that the manual references a GX160 which is a 5.5hp engine A lot for these cheap clone engines actually has a 160cc block even though the sticker says it's a GX200. $150 is very overpriced though, these clones only costs $60-70 where I live (southeast Asia)

@InBrz 2 ай бұрын

STILL doing amazing comparisons, GREAT JOB

@ProjectFarm 2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@greenfiregarden204 21 күн бұрын

Couldn't make a better comparison video. Great work,

@kaleosantos6313 3 ай бұрын

AWESOME VIDEO BRO! THANKS FOR THE INFO

@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! You are welcome@

@Adam-nv9zo Жыл бұрын

That was an awesome comparison. It's one of my favorites to date. There is no telling how much money you have saved people over the years with this channel. Anytime I buy almost any product, I go to your channel first to see if you've done testing on whatever it is I'm about to purchase. Thank you for the great work, brother.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@GarysBBQSupplies Жыл бұрын

I agree. I do the same thing!

@kevinolson5112 Жыл бұрын

You should use the borescope to check the cylinder walls. I have a predator and a Briggs both with similar hours and the predator has worn away the factory honing marks and the Briggs cylinder wall looks brand new.

@pufferlump Жыл бұрын

Then do your own channel🤦‍♂️

@m.g.540 Жыл бұрын

Great idea,

@martinqizeaq Жыл бұрын

That's where the price difference comes in. Honda and Briggs have low power compared to predator but both have limited carbon built up. And we can assume that both would last longer compared to the cheap one.

@kevinolson5112 Жыл бұрын

@@martinqizeaq Yeah, the cast iron quality is higher in the briggs and honda.

@haydenc2742 Жыл бұрын

Could be the quality of cast iron they use in the sleeves...

@lawrencekellerii4857 2 ай бұрын

Love your no nonsense, non biased comparisons, helps me to make proper choices 😎

@ProjectFarm 2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@igordiniz5417 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. Great tests.

@ProjectFarm 5 ай бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@jamesphilip6737 Жыл бұрын

This fellow is better than consumer reports.

@ryane6719 Жыл бұрын

CR is trash

@rich-qk7dc Жыл бұрын

I worry about cousin Eddie he looks a little stiff

@Brian-fp3mh Жыл бұрын

he IS Consumer Reports

@bradbyers7505 Жыл бұрын

Excellent comparison as usual. To me, the most striking difference was the amount of vibration. For dependability over the long run, I'd choose a well balanced engine. Thanks for the information.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@Str4ng3F0lk 8 күн бұрын

Honestly, a spreadsheet shown at the end and linked in the comment section would help us compare. I love the simplicity and density of these videos, but 3 minutes in my head is spinning with fact after fact. A spread sheet to keep it organized would really help! Great stuff, thank yoU!

@ProjectFarm 8 күн бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

@dalefill1976 8 ай бұрын

You're the best!! My neighbor has one of those Predator engines on his rototiller & that thing runs great!! I still use Engine Restore & just added some last night to my Grand Prix. It now has 285,000 miles & still runs great!! Thanks & keep making great videos!!

@ProjectFarm 8 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@Shawn_the_Protogen Жыл бұрын

Given all the mods you can find for a Predator 212, I would probably choose that one for a go-cart.

@qwertykeyboard5901 Жыл бұрын

They also don't claim to be more then they are.

@Shawn_the_Protogen Жыл бұрын

@@qwertykeyboard5901 given the price, pretty smart they don't claim to be something dumb like "80% better then a Honda" or some other nonsense like that

@AlandFelder 10 ай бұрын

I've built plenty of go karts predator engine are amazing for their price

@francisconikotian2326 10 ай бұрын

I mean If there are a bunch of cheap easy to get parts to repair your engine its basically better

@Shawn_the_Protogen 10 ай бұрын

@@francisconikotian2326 sort of, I'm not sure I would trust my life on a Predator engine, I don't have any experience with them. However, I'm perfectly comfortable trusting my life on a Honda engine, I've used them in the past on equipment and they always performed flawlessly.

@JCulpepper73 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Todd for all you do. This is not only super expensive, it’s very time consuming. Can’t thank you enough! Love the Cousin Eddie cameo😂😂

@zorrosoxter4703 Жыл бұрын

But we never hear what Cousin Eddie thinks of the products

@JCulpepper73 Жыл бұрын

@basedwhitedevil so we should be less appreciative because of that?

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@JAlves88 Жыл бұрын

@basedwhitedevil he has that many subs bc ppl love watching his channel.

@finallyitsed2191 Ай бұрын

You, my friend, have miles and miles of more patience than I. That given, your comparisons and results are exceptional! Great work.

@ProjectFarm Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@nicholaschriss1706 10 ай бұрын

Great test, and I love the clarity of the details.

@ProjectFarm 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Enigma_V8 Жыл бұрын

I always wondered how good the Predators were because they're real popular for go carts and modding. Now we know, for the price, they're a beast!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@Only1Sethy Жыл бұрын

It'd be so cool to see a side by side of all four engines running 24/7 to see which one will continue to run longest until it completely wears out, but obviously would be such a waste of gasoline.. Great video!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video idea!

@John-zi4ii 29 күн бұрын

Awesome video 📹 ! Vety informative !! 😊

@ProjectFarm 29 күн бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@scottcollins5060 Ай бұрын

I can't do work on engines of any kind anymore. But, I enjoy the everything about your information comparisons. Work 38 years as a mechanic of one kind or another in that time. From my uncle's gas station and garage to my time in the Navy Seabees. But I just have a good time watching and recalling all the procedures that are done. Thanks again!

@ProjectFarm Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! You are welcome!

@BlackHoleForge Жыл бұрын

I am constantly impressed by the time for variety of tests that you perform. I would have never thought about testing the pull starter strength. And tell Cousin Eddie job well done.

@gonefilming2020 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Todd. Close to 2.8 Million subscribers are a testimony to the great value of your content. Even if much of your testing applies to the North-American market, some of your testing results can be applied here in Germany as well. And Cousin Eddie is always welcome entertainment. This is one of two channels I support via Patreon and I can only encourage others to do likewise. This is really useful content. 😊

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for being a Patreon and supporting the channel!

@Fritsvrolijk Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm And now you are soon a wealthy man thanks 2 KZfaq

@vinson6337 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely fabulous video. Thank you.

@ProjectFarm 2 ай бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@timothysands5537 3 ай бұрын

You sir, deserve the like 👍. I always wondered about this. Exceptional work btw

@ProjectFarm 3 ай бұрын

Thanks so much

@aussiehardwood6196 Жыл бұрын

ProjectFarm is a legend. Shows what 1 man can achieve if he puts his mind to something and works hard.

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@girishchandra1335 Жыл бұрын

Very good morning I have a good mood in

@stanpatterson5033 Жыл бұрын

1 man ?? Christ, what about Cousin Eddie ??

@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын

I can't wait to see the testing results! :-) Thank you for all you do!

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!! Always great seeing you here!

@JSFGuy Жыл бұрын

@Don't Read My Profile Picture Don't copy paste spam bot FAQ lewzer

@NickDalton81 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic job, great vid. Thank you.

@ProjectFarm 6 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@garysherman953 8 ай бұрын

I think this guy's tests are the best, period. I always look to his channel first.

@ProjectFarm 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Milnoc Жыл бұрын

That Predator engine was very impressive! That's an extremely high value engine for the money right there!

@fidelcatsro6948 Жыл бұрын

cheap and very good!🐱👍🏿

@felixchaus Жыл бұрын

I think someone somewhere said that predator is made in same line than genuine Briggs and Stratton It would be interesting to take both apart and try to mix up the parts and put both together. But now I know what engine I'll use to replace genuine honda

@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@thisoldrelic Жыл бұрын

@@felixchaus the Predator is another Honda clone. But remember it's not a real Honda. And whoa to the man who doesn't go out in the snow and start it up every 3 months.

@casey360360 Жыл бұрын

@@thisoldrelicyou mean woe?