btw Greg Judy turned into what he is (from his failing life/business) after attending a Holistic management course.

Allan is not advocating for creating an institution to manage people. He advocating for everyone, individuals, families, societies, institutions, governments to use the principles of Holistic Management. Using Holistic Management to make decisions is what he is advocating for. Please read Allan's textbook "HOLISTIC MANAGEMENT: A COMMONSENSE REVOLUTION TO RESTORE OUR ENVIRONMENT". I've read it and it is fantastic. I've also read "The Bitcoin Standard", which is also fantastic. Holistic Management principles apply equally to individuals and families as it does to large land owners and farmers. It applies to economics, societies and ecosystems. I wish more bitcoiners read Allan's textbook Holistic Management. Bitcoin (Holistic money) and Holistic Management go together like hand and glove. It takes time and effort to understand what Holistic Management is. But less time and effort than it takes to understand bitcoin. I think this quote applies equally to Holistic Management and bitcoin "When you don't see it, it seems absurd. When you do see it, it seems obvious".

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Holistic Management applies equally to how individuals manage their lives. It's not just about institutions or collectivist powers that make policy. Please read Allan's textbook "HOLISTIC MANAGEMENT: A COMMONSENSE REVOLUTION TO RESTORE OUR ENVIRONMENT" It takes time and effort to understand what Holistic Management is, but less effort than it takes to understand bitcoin. Bitcoin and Holistic Management go together like hand and glove. I wish more bitcoiners read Allan's textbook. I think this quote applies equally to both Bitcoin and Holistic Management : "When you don't see it, it seems absurd. When you do see it, it seems obvious".

lol - with desertification what will you do with gold and "economy". People will simply run over your property in the search of food and water, not your btc wallet.

"I don't understand why at the same time he points out there are no one-size-fits-all solutions he also promotes his one management recipe across no less than an entire small nation?" His "one management recipe" says to do different things in different places depending on what the context is. It is a strategy to make the best plan based off of the unique conditions in what you are managing. The reason he wants it across a small nation is to have a large demonstration. It is successful everywhere it is tried, but we need a big trial with everyone watching so everyone can see that it works. Because nobody has been paying attention for the last 3 decades. Getting a small country to try it would be easier than getting a large country to try it. "He seemed to avoid the question of the coercive nature of state policy, as well as the inherent inefficiencies of central planning due to the calculation problem." The state is an institution. He spent a whole lot of time explaining why institutions (and states) make policies that are destructive and counter productive. It's because the way we manage complex systems is inherently flawed, we manage them as if they were complicated and not complex. (complex means self organizing and the system will continue without intervention, while complicated means something we make rather than manage. This is comes from Systems Theory). "I would love to see a large land owner implement his management method voluntarily." Many many have. There are millions of acres owned that are managed Holistically. Look into the Savory Institute for examples. "But a collective entity can neither legitimately own land nor manage it according to sound incentives." This isn't about ownership of land, it's about institutions that make policy that affect land (and thus affect ecosystems). Actually its bigger than that. Its about anybody or any institution that makes decisions that affect ecosystems, the economy, or society. "But a collective entity can neither legitimately own land nor manage it according to sound incentives." Putting aside the legitimacy of ownership question, collectives can make better management decisions by using the principles of Holistic Management. Please read his textbook " HOLISTIC MANAGEMENT: A COMMONSENSE REVOLUTION TO RESTORE OUR ENVIRONMENT". It isn't very expensive and it applies to you managing your life, just as much as it applies to large land owners or governments. I've read it and it is fantastic. I've also read "The Bitcoin Standard", which is also fantastic. Bitcoin and Holistic Management go together like hand and glove. I wish more bitcoiners read Alan Savory's textbook. It requires effort to understand, but less time and effort than it takes to understand bitcoin.

@@frankmarshall-davis8400 Thanks for talking sense.