Liked the comment about the "sweet spot" being just above the knee. Feel like it is something good to work on. Really well done.

These are all very good tips. However i think in depth videos on how to practice each tip would be helpful. For example, RELAX is a key part of looping, and the answer is to relax before you hit the ball. Easier said than done. Perhaps go in detail on which parts of the body should be relaxed and how it might affect the external form of the player if the player is not relaxed

Great video, Brian. I tried out the techniques during robot practice with good results.

Thanks for the tutorial man! Hopefully I get to play more this year and get better :D

Very helpful. Thank you bro!!!!

I Think it is the best video about looping

Great and very detail tips! Thanks for sharing @PandaPong

Great video and very helpful. Greetings from Germany)

Great lesson!

Pretty good!

Wow, sick edits. You can bet I liked and subscribed faster than Bryan's quick attack.

Great Video Brian! -Thuan Dao

Thx was very helpful

great content man

0:33 subscribing with the hope of seeing that FH loop against backspin video soon!

This brings back memories when I first joined ping pong club for 1 hour. First thing I learned :D

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Thanks for the video. I like all the attention to minute detail. I think the biggest improvement you could make would be do something about the floor vibration. Not sure if that just means using a better tripod or a camera with better image stabilization.

Great vid thanks! His forehand is nice lol

Make a video on making a BH "twister" block or also known as the backhand sidespin block or sidespin chop that players like Walther Ricardo or Ma Long tend to do quite a lot in matches and when the ball comes back, the opponents usually tends to push it because of the backspin that is on the ball. What is interesting is how they use the legwork and bend their upperbody sideways when they're making the twister block.

BRIAN there is so much information you know and understand quicker than the majority of players. I would suggest, not that I know much, to explain what were to happen a player contacts early or late or is too tense. i.e. too early hit in the net or short of it. height is also important. Wu is gets low even though he is of the lower height club like me.

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I would love to see this guy loop against backspin and comparison of forward and upward stroke.

great great video , can you please review xiom feel zx3 blade , new or old any type

What rubbers and blade you and Brian using here? I think that is important for is to know. Thanks and please make more videos like this. :)

i would like to ask question about the arms. for the hitting arm. how much tension is in the arm? how much flexion do you want in the arm? and the timing of the tension. you did talk about relax, accelerate, relax...but is this the legs then core right? what about the arm? is it relaxed the whole time? (not loosey goosy relax, but medium?) or is there contraction of the arm muscles (biceps? forearm?) right at contact? you want to articulate the arm for better spin right? also..for the non-hitting arm. at minute 5:50 .. the non hitting harm (seems to me) to be not doing much. is this the case? it's just hanging there kinda not involved much? or should the non-hitting arm rotate w/ the body some? i'm asking all this because i'm one of those (beginner level) arm hitters...and i need to discard this bad habit and do what this video describes. so perhaps this is the exact opposite of what i do now (high tension in the arm/shoulder, swinging mostly thru the arm). i hope to improve this. thanks for the video and tips!

Hey @PandaPong First off I would like to thank you for the video! I only have one question, when you are doing forehand loop, does your paddle tend to "slip" out of your hand? I've read that you should "pinch" your racket with your thumb and index finger, but after I do like 10 loops, my grip starts to slip

There is some nice advice here. The idea of relaxing the upper body while being strong with the legs is a difficult one for a lot of players. The point about blocking and not getting too crazy with angles so your partner can actually practice is a good one. What do your friend Brian use on the forehand? H3 I'm guessing? He has really solid technique and it looks like he has a diverse set of shots on his forehand, real mastery of it.

Hey PandaPong, I love the video. Thank you for posting. I have a question; What do you mean by "grabbing the ball"? Is that the same as, letting the ball sink into the rubber? Please expound, thank you!

9:32 I think there needs to be a sidenote to your note: it might be confusing to say that all the acceleration needs to happen at the same time because you are loading up tension in your body that acts like a whip, so some things start to move first and then transfers energy in a kinetic chain. Timo Boll does this by leading with his shoulder, but there might be other ways as well. My point is that the horizontal movement lags behind and loads on to the vertical movement and explodes onto the ball when the racket intersects the pathway of the ball.

I think perception is underemphasized because everyone takes it as a given. You really have to work well with perceptual focus to get the timing right and to anticipate what is coming feom the cues from the oponent.

What rubber suggestions would you make?

You need to extend your arm more during the back-swing. It's much more energy-efficient to flex the elbow than swing the entire arm from the shoulder. As you start your upward motion, the elbow must be at about 150 degrees, not 90 or 100.

all of them sounds like a power loop, and not the kind of timo boll opener super thin hit kinda loop. it seems like you dont see any of the chinese use this stroke. my trainer is focusing a lot on those, and he makes all new players play with soft and springy rubbers so they can do it. I decided to start playing with chinese rubbers on forehand with a flexible blade, however, so this thin hit is not so easy, but my forehand topspin stroke developed nicely after a few months. my trainer even raises the net with the young players and does multiball where they are supposed to loop underspin ball over a heigthened net. since I am an adult learner with an athletic background, I have plenty of muscle to put into a powerloop ... but I dont know if I should try to get a hang of this precise thin hitting loop. I feel like my next step is to get into a stiffer faster blade of the same grade that I am using to develop a better backhand stroke, and be able to punch the ball with backhand as well.

What are the approximate BAT ANGLES and ARM MOVEMENT ANGLES that you personally use for your OPENING FOREHAND LOOP against HEAVY BACKSPIN? And how do these same angles compare to the BAT ANGLES and ARM MOVEMENT ANGLES you personally use for your FOREHAND COUNTER-LOOPS against HEAVY TOPSPIN?

I’m starting to improve my backhand, but I feel like I couldn’t have as much power and loop control as I have for my forehand.

Interesting, he seems to extend/straighten the arm at one point and then brings it back in towards his head

I have a really tough time with the grabbing concept. Can you help me try to understand it.

it would be nice to see it from the side, 90 degree angle. also, would be nice to see a 6'2 feet player do it.

Hey, would you say Zhang Jike ALC fits for forehand looping? Or is it too hard for that

Dear Coach, what kind of blade and racket do you use for nice loop and topspin? Thank you

same thing for backhand would be a logical progression

23 loops without missing

What equipment is Brian using?

What is Brian bat set up?

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I want to see a video about lobbing vs choppers, and I won't subscribe until you make it.

Not enough body rotation

Hi, I would recommend Bryan not to tighten right shoulder to the neck. I mean not to shrug.

"counter-intuitive"

The description of movements is way too technical, and not how good players actually learn their shots. Instead they have some idea (ie feel for) how much pressure to apply to the ball, and either have (the naturally athletic) or develop some intuition for how to efficiently apply that pressure.

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