that won’t happen. some of the schedules are too easy for that to happen. Pac-12 was its best in its final year and many years have had the top offense in the country out of any conference

Pretty sure the SEC is used to it

Bad comparison: 7th graders vs Varsity team. The PAC12 is/was weak at the line of scrimmage.

@@veryinteresting591so if a bunch of elite varsity teams all play each other then…..

@@veryinteresting591 Utah and Stanford would like a word with you.

Biggest non con for sure😊

Ehhh prob not . If this was past year sure but Michigan will be nowhere close to elite. Texas will win by 10+

lol

Agreed 👍🏾 💯

Their ceiling is 9-3

Alex is having the same doubts that milroe had last year‼️and imo he will show the country that he’s a great qb just like milroe did

Not a lot of qbs have the skill sets of a milroe or an orji so be glad he’s michigan starting qb he’s going to give defenses hell in the big 10💯🤝‼️

lol

I say no only because I think McDonald and definitely Minter are both gonna NFL coaches for a long time, not to say I think Wink wasn’t an excellent hire

​@@MarkyMark1221wink is overrated and No NFL team wanted him at the time.

They still have the interior D linemen and Will Johnson, Michigan will still be elite defensively

@clarencewalder2985 Wink literally designed the system that Macdonald and Minter were running.

I can tell you no more than one person in each conference is going to go 12-0 and maybe one other going 11-1 so that still leaves up other spots for other teams. I’m tired of seeing people say “SEC bias” even though we have the best team in the country Georgia and now 4 top ten teams

Lowkey a good idea

It’s subjective because who decides the algorithm

@@jdtheguitartist you use well defined data points. I’m sure there’s a way to make it as objective as possible.

This is just historic mis-remembering... the BCS was NEVER just point based algorithims........ Thats not how the rankings were calculated. From 1998-2001 it was 50% computers and 50% human polls, from 2002-2013 it was 33% computers and 67% human polls. FYI theres a reason why this was changed in 2001 (cuz Nebraska got ANNHILIATED by #4 CU in the B12 title by 38 and yet still made the championship over them and a PAC Champ #2 Oregon) - also this historical fact completely destroys the narrative that the CFP was created because the 2011 selection. What human and computer polls were used also changed 6 times during the lifetime of this system. Which is also why its incredibly sus that media talks about how legitimate the CFP was in reference to BCS composite rankings of the last decade - The BCS formula changed so much, so what "BCS rankings" were actually used to legitimize the CFP? Somehow all of yall forgot that the BCS had insane levels of controversy leading to major polls like the AP refusing to be associated with them, and other sponsors literally getting convicted by the FBI for corruption. Like jesus christ talk about some revisionist history acting like this never happened.....

@@Gillespie28 “well defined” care to give an example?

You need to give more context in 21 or this year?

They make more money so yes.

LMAO! UGA is not losing to Georgia Tech!

Has to do with more teams playing for a Natty it’s common sense lol

How about f*ck no.... The BCS was total garbage.... theres a reason that institution got sued by the federal government twice for corruption.....

I like SIX. given the elite SEC BIG - almost needs SEC/B1G champs get byes and SEC/B1G2 get home v next best two. Who really thinks ACC/XII champ would be favored over B/S #2? BTB OSU/MI if both 11-0 pointless. That game BTB - then an immediate playoff game for loser - really rough. They’ll move OSU MI - in a few years. Catching either team after BTB games in successive weeks a big edge for any playoff team - particularly one that didn’t play in a championship game like ND or SEC/B1G3.

@@markmajkowski9545 6 would at least be reasonable. Anymore than that is pointless.

If that happens and if the Buckeyes lose they could certainly decide to fire Coach Day. Personally I’d call it a mistake to fire someone who is delivering what he’s delivered to the program, but it could happen. Rivalries as we know can carry an inordinate amount of weight and pressure. RTR

​@skipgumphrey9579 there's no way Day survives if they drop a 4th straight. Especially since expectations in Columbus are skyhigh (more so than usual), and they believe all kinds of nonsense about michigan only winning because of signs and they're going to take a huge step back this year.

I think Ryan Day is gone if OSU loses to Michigan for the 4th straight time. I would be laughing at that, but I think the OSU fanbase needs to feel safe as a "big dog" with Oregon, Washington and USC coming into the conference. If they lose to Michigan a 4th straight time, their confidence and morale will be shattered. And I will laugh. (Note: TCU fan.)

​​@@scottd1903if Jim can survive Michigan and be 0 and 5 against Ohio/urban Myer and not get fired but then rebound and finish with 3 straight wins plus a Natty then Day won't get fired either he only 1 and 3. Losing 3 straight but Jim lose ,5 straight and plus postpone one year. Yes Ohio State standards of winning are higher than Michigan

@@clarencewalder2985 harbaugh inherited a 5 win (and 7 the year before that) team that had only beat ohio once in over a decade. Day inherited a 13 win team that had been a top 3 program for the better part of a decade. I think it's safe to assume harbaugh had a bit more leeway than Day has. Most ohio fans think this season will be a disappointment if they don't win thr NC let alone the B10. I just don't see how he survives if Michigan wins again, unless they meet in the playoffs of B10 title game and ohio beats them there.

Might as well let the G5 have their own playoffs

More teams getting a shot at competing for a Natty is the point. Not teams complaining about not getting in. Who cares

Ohio state fan here. I think texas will be the proving ground early on. But i also see that defense allowing the offense to grow and develop early on

Don't be surprised if and when the Online and QB loses 3 games this year. Then the socalled fans will be making excuses as to why Michigan took a step back. Michigan won't take a step back because they are a development program it takes 3 to 10 plus years there. Just check there history. It took Jim 9 years and the last 3 to win a championship

​@@clarencewalder2985as long as Ryan Day is coaching OSU will be soft and lose to Michigan. Mark my words Michigan beats OSU in the shoe and plants the block M on the 50 again.

Amen... and hardly ever play true non conference road games

Its not even about that....... Do you have any idea the amount of G5 teams that have been insanely shafted over the last 5 decades in favor of lower ranked P5 teams. 2011 - 3 G5 teams ranked in the Top 14 in the nation - ZERO G5 teams made BCS bowls, which by the bylaws of the selection process should have been impossible. The Orange bowl that season featured #16 Clemson vs #23 West Virginia...... 1998 #7 Tulane went undefeated and didnt even make a major bowl. 2008 - the only undefeated teams in the league were in the G5 and both had Top 10 wins. ZERO G5 teams made a title. 3 G5 teams ranked in the top 10, yet only 1 made a major bowl. 1971-1974 Toledo holds the 3rd longest win streak of all time - 3 seasons undefeated - they made ZERO bowl games despite being ranked in the Top 15 by AP every season and being a FBS Division 1 team. The P5 has at least 30 YEARS of recompense to make up for before we even entertain the idea that the G5 somehow owes the P5 for something.....

Not a sleeper but it won't surprise many if they make playoffs or miss out on it. A new coaching staff,new QB new online wr a RB that hit or miss. Not enough depth AND most Michigan fans think they reload but they rebuild and develop and it takes up to ,3 to 10 years to complete with other elite teams. And that was with a great Michigan coach Jim who had a losing record against other elite teams

I dont think you ever watched the BCS, cuz if you did youd know that the take was never 3 or 4 is just as good. Bruh there were multiple seasons of 5+ UNDEFEATED TEAMS in the BCS..... There are teams in the BCS era that received multiple #1 polls that didnt even rank in the Top 6 by BCS rankings. An 8 team playoff was submitted in the middle of the BCS; 5 YEARS before the CFP even existed! You dont know wtf youre talking about....

@@MattBuild4 lol

@@charlesmims5863 Contending teams in the BCS era: 1998 - Tennesse, FSU, Arizona, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Tulane 1999 - FSU, Virginia Tech, Marshall 2000 - Oklahoma, FSU, Miami, Washington 2001 -Miamia, Nebraska, Colorado, Oregon 2002 - Ohio State, Miami 2003 - LSU, Oklahoma, USC, Michigan, Miami Ohio 2004 - USC, Oklahoma, Auburn, Utah, Boise State, Louisville 2005 - USC, Texas 2006 - Florida, Ohio State, Boise State, Michigan, Louisville 2007 - LSU, Ohio State, USC, Georgia, West Virginia, Kansas, Oklahoma 2008 - Florida, Oklahoma, Utah, Boise State, USC, Oregon, Texas, Penn State 2009 - Alabama, Texas, TCU, Boise State, Cincinatti 2010 - Auburn, Oregon, TCU 2011 - LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State, Stanford, Boise State 2012 - Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon 2013 - FSU, Auburn, Michigan State

Oh thats funny, are you gonna pay the G5 back for how many times GARBAGE P5 teams magically took their spots from major bowls? Its not even close.... Your debt is about 40 YEARS LONG AT THIS POINT..... Oh your upset a G5 team may be underranked vs #12? DO YOU NOT REMEBER WHAT HAPPEND IN 2010 and 2011? Boise State ranked #6 in the country, with a 12-1 record, and 4 Top 25 wins including over the ACC Champion in OOC. They ranked #2 in offense, #2 in defense and #1 in MOV. Insane god tier stats - 48ppg, 11papg, nearly 40 point margin of victory per game!. This team DIDNT EVEN MAKE A FREAKING BOWL GAME... Do you know who did? 8-5 UNRANKED P5 Champion Uconn. BSU beat top 20 teams by DOUBLE what Uconn scored on average per game! 5 LOWER ranked P5 teams made a major bowl over BSU. And it wasnt the only time. In 2011 - THE SAME BS HAPPENED. BSU went #6, TCU went #12, UH went #14 - all winning 12+ games. That year the Orange bowl was #16 Clemson vs #23 WV. The G5 didnt even get a single team in major bowls somehow...... YALL OWE THE G5 SO GOD DAM MUCH before you even consider making this bs argument.....

@@MattBuild4 Every playoff team beat 3 P5’s and one rated 10 FPI. Playing G5 teams doesn’t really wear down teams either. G5 FRESH against beat up P5 team - possible. Ranking bias RIFE with overestimating fewest losses-P5-too. No one watches G5-and to qualify for the Natty - you have to play a Natty norm. ACC BXII have been exceedingly weak. Six teams PLENTY. Boise COULD play 3 P4 teams - Liberty too- and doesn’t. Heck they should all be on the Road-what GREAT G5 team - Playoff ready - can’t beat 3 even middling P5 teams - on the Road. G5 gets a playoff Walkover if goes to highest ranked - who plays NO P4 teams. AFRAID? Play THREE during the season - not some bowl game after P4 team plays 9 P4 physical games - and G4 - ZERO.

@@markmajkowski9545 I mean Boise literally plays Oregon, Oregon State, Washington State, Georgia Southern and Porttand State in OOC this year. Would you they play vandy, Arkansas and Florida? Id think their current schedule is tougher than that.

@@markmajkowski9545 "Play THREE during the season - not some bowl game after P4 team plays 9 P4 physical games - and G4 - ZERO." I mean this is not an argument to use against Boise State, because they historically routinely get screwed in bowl selection and thus dont play P5 teams in bowls. However they consistently schedule P5 team in OOC. Last 10 years they have played;: - at Michigan State - vs Washington - at Ole Miss - at Colorado - vs Washington - at Virginia - vs Washington State - at UCLA - at Washington State - vs Virginia - at Oklahoma State - at FSU - at BYU - at UCF - vs Oklahoma State - at Oregon State - at Washington - vs UCF These are all OOC games notice how 12 of the 18 are on the road. This year they play Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington State. Next year they play Washington State and ND both on the road. The year after that they play Oregon, Cincinnati and Michigan State. You really chose the wrong team in your argument. BSU is the only program that dgaf and will schedule anyone anytime anywhere. They have 20 years of evidence doing this.

@@MattBuild4We don’t agree. Plainly. But good chance 12 is G5 top team and plays 5 - also good chance that 5 is the “better” B1G/SEC #2 team as seems ACC/XII getting byes. That should give some indicator of G4 “deservingness”. Feels like Liberty v OR - type of repeat - but we shall see. I’d guess #5 by 13-21 Vegas odds. Decision made. Frankly 5/6 seeds IF BIG/SEC runners up very bad draws. The BBall “play ins” were DESIGNED so low seeds get at least a shot. Decision already made. I still say G5 should have a play in. BIG/SEC 2’s likely better than ACC/XII Champ. And SIX teams plenty. Frankly, BIG/SEC teams might PREFER to tie for 2nd lose tiebreak. Rest than play the top team in SEC/BIG and get a home game as a 7/8 seed which will be less wear and tear than the Conf Championship maybe lose then still be 7/8 seed. That extra game just extra punishment and tougher to win that and then 3 playoffs than winning 4 playoff games.

Not technically, but they likely will be even if they are ranked higher by AP.

Eh that really doesn’t make sense 1. Fox doesn’t have the rights to the CFP 2. FSU is still under the ESPN banner The reality is the committee has no logic and consistently when comes to choosing teams one year it’s the most deserving teams the next year it’s the best teams. Me personally I like that it’s going to 12 teams with auto bids other than that it should just be like the BCS top 2

you saw Liberty go 12-0 with 3 spots next to dead last in SOS and then get spanked by 10-2 Oregon. if the team ain’t from the AAC or MW, don’t even bother adding them to the equation. this is also why they need to break off the P5 immediately

You dont want to play this game....... Do you have any idea the amount of G5 teams that outranked P5 teams during the BCS yet got shafted out of major bowls? And its not even close...... 2010 #7 Boise State missed a BCS bowl despite outranking 5 P5 teams that made it over them, including teams THEY LITERALLY BEAT THAT SEASON..... They put an UNRANKED P5 champion in over that team in 2010. Thats 1 team in 1 season - this BS happened to that 1 program 5 FREAKING TIMES!

@@GoatedAtNFS "this is also why they need to break off the P5 immediately" Ok go ahead...... but just so you know doing this means you will get absolutely throated by the G5 in federal anti-trust lawsuits. And you better believe they got some serious receipts for the last 80 years..... The MWC literally submitted an 8 team playoff back in 2009... YALL CHOOSE to not support this because you wanted to maintain a monopoly on BCS bowls - this eventually led to a $2.7 BILLION federal case against the league. There is no contractual evidence that P5 vs G5 actually exists, its the very reason the CFP had to specify "so called P5" when talking about FSU's claims - because this terminology literally doesnt exist on paper. So in the eyes of a court youd be cutting 80 teams based on feelings - good luck with that.

If both go undefeated then they both make it, otherwise youd have teams make the playoffs who literally lost to these teams...... That s very clearly a problem.

He will be gone

Well if Jim can survive and 0 and 5 start and Michigan fans loving him no matter what then Day probably will survive 1 and 4 start even though Ohio State value winning more than Michigan

Thats easy - Liberty. They go undefeated they make it its that simple. Based on history BSU could go undefeated and beat their opponent by 100 a game and they wont make it (the fact that they have more undefeated seasons than major bowl appearances illustrates this point extremely well). Boise is really hype because they have a bunch of unknowns and historically this is the exact same way 2008 started, which coincidentally is also the last time they played Oregon in Autzen and slaughtered a Top 10 Oregon. But, its a huge and ridiculous ask for this team to replicate that roster - they literally had 14 future NFL draft picks and a Top 10 All time college QB. I dont see it. Imo its more than likely Liberty or texas State who makes it on an undefeated season or a one loss Memphis. The MWC will cannibalize itself. there will be some upsets but expect similar outcomes for record of last season as the MWC OOC is yoked af again this season - the projected top 4 teams in the MWC play Michigan, Oregon, Utah and Texas all on the road.

@@MattBuild4 It will be really interesting to see how the committee handles G5 teams. I really hope a 13-0 Liberty team doesn’t get slaughtered in the CFP when a 1-2 loss Boise or Memphis etc could put up a better fight

@@scottyclayton2501 I dont like that though... If you go undefeated you deserve to make it. Its that simple. I think there can be arguments for an additional G5 team - like if Boise beats Oregon, but loses to like Washington State or something but goes 12-1. Liberty should still make it, but realistically if Oregon isnt overrated, the G5 team would literally have beaten a playoff team, so thats where we can run into controversy. This could also happen for Memphis, Frenso State, App State or UTSA. Plus dont dog a team for their first major bowl appearance ever. They didnt have the talent or schemes to win, but its also a learning experience. 2024 shouldnt define that university.

@@MattBuild4Their just has to be some regulation for scheduling you can’t schedule UMass 13 times and expect a playoff bid over elite 1-2 loss teams. Every team should play pretty even schedules so then you truly are what your record says. It sucks to leave out undefeated teams because the players don’t pick the schedule but if Liberty had a low tier Big Ten team like Indiana I would be a lot more gracious towards them but since they joined CUSA they have either had trouble making good schedules or just don’t try, either way I don’t blame them because it worked last year

@@MattBuild4 Also Liberty’s bad schedule (literally ranked dead last by ESPN) only got them to number 23 which happened to be the highest when 2 loss Tulane got up to 16 so maybe their is no reason for me to worry because 23 happened to be the highest G5 in 2023

If I recall the last time a undefeated G5 team played a B10 champion it wasn't the G5 team who lost....... B10? More like little b!tch since 2010...... And for the SEC - the University of Tulane has more SEC Conference titles than 50% of the teams that exist in that conference, which really makes you wonder how tf the bottom half of that conference gets treated like gods for doing jack sh!t nothing for 120 years........