I do not use the English voice-over but hearing Eide's lines here... wow. people were complimenting this performance and yes. it is impressive. And makes him sound a smidge unhinged throughout the quest.

I really like how Chlothar was voiced in this quest. I already felt unsettled after a few lines. The pauses, the giggles... I was like, 'this b is crazy huh' and then realized that he was, in fact, crazy af lol

Kaeya. Even when we learn more about him, he still hints he knows more than he lets on

Nahida also mentioned how Abyss Sibling suddenly had records exactly 500 years ago. It makes me think they had done something to, idk, fuse themselves to Teyvat? Perhaps they had let someone form Khaenri'ah borrow their likeness/use their body as their vessel while retaining memories with the Traveler? I'm just spitballing here haha Caribert Quest just opened up more questions

It’s very likely that the abyss sibling helped the aranara in order to gain the bhima fruit, which is the actual medicine that can help keep a person sane and clear of mind (since it clears up erosion/varana), for dainsleif. He was probably suffering from the worst of his curse then and the traveler had no choice but to try their luck alone in order to help him.

This quest felt short but dropped most important lore bombs 🔥

6:57 Remember that in the past, he ultimately chose to come clean to Diluc about him being a Khaenriah agent because he was conflicted about which side to choose after Crepus' death, and he clearly cared more about Crepus than his birth father So by Kaeya's own will, he is virtually a Mondstadter now But yeah, it's possible that circumstances might cause the name "Alberich" and its legacy to haunt Kaeya in the future... and given its story potential, it's just a matter of time

I know how Dain kept his mind safe: The traveler gained the Bija through the Aranaras. Yes, the same one we used to save Rana.

I have rewatched the scene with Kaeya and Dain many times, and the more I rewatch, the more intricate it becomes- every word out of Kaeya's mouth is intentional. That cunning, cunning man. Luring Dain out, Dain ordering Kaeya's favorite drink, Kaeya not being surprised at all about the meaning of his surname, asking Dain if he is a pureblood, meaning Kaeya has known all along, and dipping as soon as his involvement in Abyss Order is questioned.

I'm personally under the impression that the voice is Irmin. Let's rewind to Kaeya's surname, Alberich. We know that this royal line created the Abyss Order. We don't know too much about what Irmin did or whatnot, but we know his name is Irmin. He's a king of K-Town, and we also know he only has one eye. Irmin is actually another name for "Odin," which coincidentally, has a very specific story. In order to gain the power to control fate, Odin hung himself from the world tree and lost an eye. If we fast forward and take a look at the quest item we got from the Sumeru archon quest, the branch reads: "Trees also symbolize widsom. In one of the legends, a sage hanging upside down on a tree had acquired the knowledge of how to inscribe runes and control sacred words, and thus followedt he kingdom established along the tree's roots, eventually gaining a glimpse into the secret of the cosmos." You see how the description matches the story of Odin? From this, we can hypothesize that the sage was King Irmin who gained cosmic knowledge from the irminsul and taught it to K-Town. Revisiting "Irmin = Odin" (who has one eye, and was the king of K-Town), we also know that there were royal knights serving him. If we go into the chasm, coincidentally, we find that the royal knights of K-Town are an enemy type, and drop a very particular item that was featured in the video, the Statuettes, which are literally Irmin's face, the king with one eye. The description of these items are also very interesting. Let's focus on the rarest drop: "A one-eyed carving that emanates an ominous energy, with no indication of what it's made of. As you gaze upon this idol, you can almost hear a strange, conforting whisper... 'See my child. All that lies under the throne of heaven shall be destroyed by upheavel. The eternal peace of the pitch-dark void shall embrace us all.'" *A STRANGE AND COMFORTING WHISPER* Where have we heard this before? From the Sinner. The Sinner, IMO, is King Irmin. King of Khaenri'ah who gained immense knowledge from irminsul. All Khaenri'ah citizens bow and feel comfortable when his presence is around. *Even Dainsleif is affected.* And why? Because he's a pure-blood Khaenri'an. Hence, that's why I believe the voice from the crystal, is Irmin. Irmin, the Sinner.

This Archon quest was a mind-full. Since the sibling isn't considered a descender, that means they were summoned by the Royal Court of Khaenri'ah into Teyvat and King Irmin (Irmin, Irminsul... coincidence? I think not) removed this occurrence from Irminsul to avoid suspicion from Celestia. However, their usage of forbidden knowledge had them caught in the end, causing the Cataclysm. I strongly believe now that the first scene of Genshin Impact where the twins are separated was during or right before the Cataclysm. They tried to escape and were cast back into Teyvat as a punishment, hence why the sibling who woke up first decided to follow the Abyss; not because of linear ideals, but to somehow correct a great wrong. As for Chlothar, the Alberich clan, and the "sinner", there are many loose ends still. I am so excited to see the story approaching rising action, and thanks as always for the excellent breakdowns Cat.

Like Mona had revelated. Kaeya may think that he has broken away from his past. But sooner or later, fate will catch up with him. And when it does, he will have to make choice that will alter his life forever.

It was mostly implied Khaenri'ah is close to Sumeru since 3.1 in the side quest "Afratu's Dilemma". In the quest, Afratu says "[The Ruin Golem] is said to be a relic of the legendary Dahri people... Hmm, perhaps you're more familiar with the name Khaenri'ah? Dahri is an archaic name that's commonly used in the Vahumana Darshan", thus all references to Dahri mean Khaenri'ah. This quest takes place in the Valley of Dahri (released in 3.1), and northeast of this location is the Ruins of Dahri (released in 3.0).

Gonna go out on a limb and say I don't think Chlothar's truly dead. Given his rather disturbing fascination with the Cryo Abyss Herald, I think that after founding the Abyss Order, he went on to perform experiments with Abyssal energy, eventually finding a way to rid himself of the curse by shedding his human form and becoming an Abyssal monster. And he later taught his followers to do the same. And I think he's still alive and leading the Order from the shadows in service of the entity, or "Sinner" as it's called while the Sibling leads the front lines as the face of the Order.

5:21 Or perhaps Kaeya's father simply didn't like what their ancestor did, and wished for Kaeya to not know such a shameful information

8:37 Remember how our Traveler makes 2 possible explanations for this on their mind: either something's wrong with their own memories, or something/one had done something on their sibling to change their nature and make them "belong" to this world And perhaps what that mystery voice (Nicole) said is relevant too: to believe only what they see with their own eyes So right now, I won't take "our sibling belonged to this world" as a raw fact, only as a "mystery" for now

I really like the idea that Khaenri'ah was destroyed and cursed because the Abyss sibling tried to harness the power of the Abyss for Khaenri'ah's attempt to wrest control of Teyvat from Celestia/the Seven. The Seven were summoned to Khaenri'ah and were forced to destroy the nation, as Celestia's dogs. Celestia then cursed the survivors, and since the Seven were there it made it seem as though they were behind the curse. I also love the idea that the Abyss sibling is part of the Abyss Order because of their guilt and their kind heart, similar to the Traveler's. They feel responsible for failing Khaenri'ah so they want to make things right. Notice that they do not directly challenge or oppose the Seven, and rather focus their attention on strengthening the Abyss Order and waging war against Celestia itself. Perhaps the Twin knows that the Seven are not responsible for the Cataclysm, so focusing their attention on petty revenge is just a waste of time. Also - perhaps the "thing" that turned the Abyss sibling into a "being of Teyvat" rather than a Descender, was their usage of the Abyss' power. As we know, the Travelers both used Light elemental powers during their eternal journey through the stars. As we know from the opening cutscene, both siblings still used this element as their primary means of power when they fought The Unknown God. It can be assumed that the Abyss sibling switched over to using the Abyss as their main source of power after this event, which then marked them as "being of Teyvat" and eliminating their origin as a Descender.

Could Khaenri'ah's single "original" bloodline be that of a Descender? Hence why they're considered "greater sinners"... maybe that immortality curse was Celestia's way of marking them as foreign and forbidden from entering Teyvat's cycle of life and death (the leylines).

I like how almost every archon quest manages to raise more questions than answers.

It is still remarkable what Scaramouche revealed as information provided by the Jester, Royal Mage of Khaenri'ah: namely that the sibling came to Khaenri'ah from the heavens in response to a summoning, and lived there for a while. Note: he said THE SIBLING, not THE TWINS

Adding a few points regarding to the quest here: - There was one moment when Paimon asks the Traveller about his journey pre-Teyvat and his answer was very suspicious and untrustworthy narratively. His memories could be altered. But then again, he is a Descender and immune to memory wipe so there are a lot of loose ends here. - As from the information from the Fatui, Descenders information have a critical relation with the fact that "the sky of Teyvat is fake," so if we know more on this, we can understand why they Fatui consider Traveller as a Descender but not the Abyss Sibling. - There is more foreshadowing Paimon will leave someday. - In the domain, the are statues that seem to imply Primordial One and its Shades, but one of them was broken - In Battle Pass cutscene (Gnostic Chorus), it really seems like the Princess is the Abyss Sibling, the Kingdom is Khaenriah, the Snake is the "Sinner," the Pearl is some kind of knowledge or whatever Khaenriah's goal, and the second heir is the Traveller. - In the Pale Princess book, we have the Night Mother as the "source of all sins" and from both information from Rhinedottir and Kaeya's voiceline on Fishcl, they are the "great sinner" and "sinner." "Sin" is probably about using the Abyss power. - In the first Windblume event, Kaeya knew hilichurl's language and wrote a poem. Venti probably also knows something about Kaeya but doesn't share it to us.

I think Kaeya is a Descendant of Caribert instead, the Loom of fate is passed to him. I still think Kaeya's hidden eye has normal pupil while his exposed eye is Khaenriahn signifying a half blood connection.

13:59 I once read a theory, I believe it was by ChillWithAster iirc (one comment says Ashikai, which is probably correct, I do not remember which one it is from so both are listed here), that suggested that the reason the Fatui covered their eyes/at least one eye, was to be able to use the power of a delusion without eroding their mind. Whenever Diluc and Childe use their delusions, they're always wearing a mask that either covers, or surrounds, their eyes. Crepus didn't wear one when he died, nor did Teppei or the other Inazuma soldiers, and it either eroded them or killed them near instantly. I believe that Khaenri'ah's curse functions sort of similarly. Dainsleif covers the skin round one of his eyes, and Kaeya completely covers one. Now Kaeya's could genuinely be an eye injury, but it could also be there to protect his mental state/soul from erosion due to the curse, which is why I believe Dainsleif wears that partial mask. Chlothar did not wear a mask, and as such, started losing his mind. Pierro also wears a mask covering half of his face, and if you notice, Kaeya, Dain, and Pierro all cover the same eye. Not sure what the link is here, but I'm certain it is relating to protection - whether from the powers of a delusion or from Khaenri'ah's curse.

I kind of hope Caribert was fully healed and we do see him again, as a normal human. Even if only in a memory.

I still suspect that the sibling isn't actually the "original", but rather an imitation that was created by writing specific information into Irminsul, basically coding him/her into the world, which explains the inexplicable appearance in history. However, I suspect that either Celestia or the Heavenly Principles were behind this, while keeping the original safe. The fake sibling was supposed to infiltrate Khaenri'ah to find out about their plans, and when it turned out that they were attempting to gain forbidden knowledge from The Abyss and The Sinner, the sibling was planted as a saboteur, triggering the chain of events that would then lead to the cataclysm. This, in turn, would be a suitable excuse to assemble the gods to strike against the only nation that wasn't under Celestia's rule yet - the nation with no god, somehow capable of standing opposed to Celestia. But for unknown reasons, the fake sibling broke free of Celestia's shackles, albeit too late. Maybe The Sinner freed him/her with his powers, just like he seems capable of undoing the curses afflicting Khaenri'an's, by averting the preordained fate. And now, the fake sibling, unaware of his/her nature as a fake, travels the world to repent for the Cataclysm, by assisting the Abyss Order in overthrowing Order itself. To prevent such a thing from happening again, You, the Traveler is sent to Teyvat to stop the sibling. But by still being the actual Traveler, you aren't bound by the laws of fate, so The Sinner might not be able to change your fate and manipulate you since you're not a part of Teyvat, but a Descender. This might be a risky gambit, as you can potentially oppose Celestia of your own volition - so the "original" of your sibling remains in Celestia's hands as leverage, should you ever step out of line. The only ones who could guide you on your path, are the other Descenders, but that entirely hinges on their identities and own intentions.

I heard good about voice acting in En dub of this quest but didn't realize that voice actor managed to make Eide sound so unhinged. Incredible!

So sumeru is the closest to khaenriah, and mondstadt is the gateway to celestia? Interesting

The Second Who Came idea actually makes a lot of sense. If it were the case, it would provide a plausible solution for a lot of plot holes (not saying that it is the case). The three moon sisters (presumably shades) once lived together in harmony, but due to the forbidden cursed love between a seelie, who is cursed to not love, and an "outlander" (second who came), the three moon sisters perished (three shades died). Naturally this would be seen as a disaster by the primordial one, and this could easily spark conflict, where the primordial one wins and chains the Second. Prior to the Second Who Came, Mankind lived as a utopian single civilization (for the most part). Main point was that there was very little conflict. Second who Came descends and starts a massive war that sends Enkanomiya into the Dark Sea and destroys many existing civilizations in what is theorized to be the Archon War. It is never said that the Second Who Came hated mankind, nor that he intentionally instigated the war, but if he were the cause of the war and the destruction of so much life, he would call himself a Sinner. However, after the Archon War was when the game first mentions erosion, corruption, decay, etc (the workings of the abyss). The abyss could be the result of the curse unleashed by the forbidden union between outlander and seelie. All civilizations that ever dared to learn about the abyss were destroyed. However the Second Who Came (if we assume that he unintentionally caused the war, and didn't purposefully try to destroy everything) would have been furious if he knew the Primordial One was just killing civilizations for finding out about the abyss, after all the existence of the abyss isn't the fault of humans, so they shouldn't pay with their life for a crime that isn't theirs, so the Second gives the fallen a chance to go against the Primordial One using the Power of the Abyss, by letting those who devolve into Hilichurls live on with his power, and when the Khaenri'ans come around he lends them the power to fight back. Ofc this is still speculation, and a major hole that exists is the origin of the abyss itself: whether the voice was locked inside a pre-existing abyss, or if my speculation is right and the abyss was the result of a forbidden love.

21:06 That's a really interesting note, I've never seen anyone mention this. I assumed the "Sinner" was talking to our Traveler since Dainsleif mentions at the end of the quest that the Sinner is not bound by time. But if that was actually said to our sibling and they bowed down, this makes this a lot more interesting and kind of creepy

At the time, Lumine used to cry in her sleep when having dreams about her brother, but when they finally meet after who knows how long apart, there is almost no emotion on her face. In that trailer where we see the Abyss Mage tell Lumine that they were stopped by Aether, she ran to see him but instead of going to meet him, she just watches from afar, turns around and goes back to focusing on her mission. I just find it weird that, if she cared about her brother so much and considering their connection, why wouldn't she ask him to join her and help her achieve her goal?

I hope our Twin was resurrected after dying from the Abyss instead of Being a Clone of the Traveller because that would imply that all our memories of them as we travelled together are fake. 😭

I played in JP, interesting how the EN VA made Eide sound so crazy and over the top mad. In JP he was more silent rage

It's Interesting the Eide in EN version is most likely on a verge of Madness,or Psychopath While the JP version portrayed him more in a Fatherly yet Emotionally unstable. the actor of EN really did a good job for this quest.

Thanks for mentioning that translation from the CN original. It seems to confirm a feeling I've had about Khaenri'ah for a while now. I'm thinking that these curses (immortality/wilderness) aren't curses at all. I think the rulers of Khaenri'ah at some point decided to take on Celestia to take over the world (or for whatever reason really), and they purposefully tried to tap into the power of the abyss. The immortality could even have been the point (feels a bit like a deal with the devil, to then be turned into a demon). That the non-purebloods didn't become immortal could be because they had protection from the Seven still on them that changed the effect of the abyssal energy. I can imagine celestial power and abyssal power interacting to have some weird effects. The ordinary people of Khaenri'ah wouldn't necessarily know what the ones in power were up to when they basically opened the floodgates of hell, so to them it would ofcourse seem like a curse, especially after Celestia intervened to stop the spread of abyssal monsters pouring out of Khaenri'ah after it all went horribly wrong.

Sumeru being near Khaenri'ah may also be the reason why they sent heelp during the first outbreak of the Abyss during the time of King Deshret.... If we look back at what happened that time, when the abyss first poured out monsters ran rampant across the desert and was spreading. Rukkhadevata erected the wall of Samiel to stop the spreading of the abyss to the forest and contained the abyss outbreak in the desert... she then proceeded to help Deshret in getting rid of the abyss and the monsters... however, there was a third party that helped Deshret.. that was the nation of Khaenri'ah.. all the golems found in the desert were actually remnants of their army that they sent to help deshret fight the abyssal monsters.. it would make sense that they would send help if their nation was indeed near Sumeru then their nation would also be at risk of an invasion.

9:55 i think the sibling was sent actually BEFORE the cataclysm, since his or her goal is to recover the homeland, plus makes sense she or he is the princess or prince of khanreah by living there before cataclysm

Killing Hilichurls has never felt the same again Proceeds to murder a bunch for comissions

The Traveller being a puppet of the Abyss Sibling is an interesting idea

Interesting thing to note is that in the archive it says hilichurls were recorded in the continent of Tevyat for over a thousand years. It was just after the Cataclysm that they were found in multitudes all across the land. So hilichurls already existed before the Gods or rather Celestia cursed the people of Khaenriah. It also suggests that they were not present during the archon war (maybe or maybe not cause the archive says 1000+ years). So the question where did these og hilichurls come from and who created them?

The old ruins in the quest also contained statues of an “idol/god” that had their face removed, just like Enkanomiya

I just finished this quest today, and it REALLY got me. In the cave, I just ran from the hilichurls cause I didn't want to kill them, and I even switched my main's glider from the mondstat to the original black because it just felt WRONG to be showing off a symbol of one of the archons in there.

Seriously. after this quest this is something i've been thinking too. The traveler and his sibling, arrived in teyvat, but not a smooth arrival. They actually crashed, and were severely wounded both of them. However the traveler wounds were heavy but none mortal and he would heal with time but he went into a state of coma, the sibling however was no so lucky. The sibling was also heavely wounded, but would die soon or later. Khaenri'ha people found them and took them in, to heal one and save the other. However saving the sibling was beyond possible now so they decided to put the "primordial human project" to the test. Probably in the past, the "primordial human project" had issues, like, it was possible to created and human body in perfect conditions, flesh and body would be perfect, but not the mind. They maybe were not able to perfectly synthesise a mind, and thanks the the sibling, this was the very moment, they made the breakthrough. Using Khemia, they made a new vessel of the sibling, a teyvat made vessel, and also using khemia, perharps, they somehow scanned the siblings mind and soul, and transfered it into the new body, thus then making the Irmensul see the sibling and a being born in teyvat, and orinal from teyvat. Or else, knowing how the writers at hoyoverse are terrifying to us sometimes, it also might have gone the bad way, meaning that they actually scanned the sibling mind and soul, made a copy of it, and paste the copied mind and soul into the vessel, allowing them to study and perfect the "primordial human project" while the original sibling died, the vessel is still there, perfect copy, a clone, made in teyvat, with both memories and powers from the original, which in return made the irmensul see it as a being born in teyvat. Basically the original dies, but the clone being a perfect clone with the very same powers and memories, nobody can notice it, only the irmensul and those who were part of the project and just like Albedo, this could mean that if our sibling is a Khemia made clone or transfigured mind and soul version, this means that somewhere in her body, there must be a small "star" shaped mark just like Albedo has it on his neck. This is for now just specullations but this explains very well why the irmensul registered the other sibling a teyvat originary and so did Pierre only note the traveler as a descender. Sorry for the long post... But now seriously, Will Ying'er move to Mondstadt to live with Timeaus ? This is the big question :D

I feel like the purple triangle is actually caribert himself. That IS the loom of fate. As we see in the quest, it has the power to manipulate fate itself and changes the fate of Alberich, Caribert and possibly the traveler themselves, that is something that the "loom of fate" can do. As the loom of fate or "him" as addressed by dainsleif, transcendes time and space, this loom of fate could be another caribert, who changes the fate of this caribert and this basically goes on in a cycle. As Clothar said: "the power of the loom of fate and the one inside caribert is the one and the same". This does indeed suggest that caribert is looping and becoming the loom of fate, then changing his own fate in the past which again, becomes a new loom of fate.

oh my gosh the detail and the pure amount of plot in caribert blew my mind favorite archon quest by far so far

We can't really confirm if what all nahida said is true because she is just speculating. I remember that she mentioned that heavenly principle is the first who came but in reality it was phanes, the primordial one. And wanderer/scara couldn't find anything about the sibling in the irminsul despite (not sure if this is right) having parts of irminsul which made him able to read it like nahida. For some reason nahida found some info about our brother. Who's to say that maybe living a certain amount of time can cause irminsul to record someone or maybe it was a record from someone's pov. I'm just coping here cause I don't want the sibling to be a clone that doesn't feel right at all 😭

26:06 - Further info about that said curse can be found entering the Giant Golem at the Valley of Dahri, near the entrace to the main hall, there will be a Ruin guard to your right, and to your left,a pile of sand wich has a piece of note written by someone describing said curse in it. You can spot it as it emits a blinking light just like any collectible.

What if Abyssal Mages attacks look like Kaeya’s burst because it’s Alberich clan magic? Since they founded the order, it’s likely that its first members would be from the clan, and then they taught it to their recruits? We already knew he spent a substantial amount of time with his birth family before getting adopted by Diluc’s. And since Diluc’s dad and Diluc had prior ties with the Fatui, maybe the reason why the Alberich had Kaeya stayed with the Ragnvindr had something to do with that? I also agree with the old conspiracies about the Fatui having somerhing to do about the matters with the Heavenly Principles and his bit about his grandfather retrieving the Traveller’s weapon might actually not be just some tales. He probably did or did not lie about that and was told that story because it became a family heirloom that haven’t yet made an appearance? I wish I paid as much attention during calculus.

I think the “Loom of Fate” is something tied to the Abyss order twin(obviously), someone is weaving their fate to change how the story is supposed to be, when you google about the loom off fate it is best to have *THREE* mages/magic-users, implying that there might be three people weaving the life of one mortal, the other twin in the story, and they cannot change their fate, the only way to stop them from controlling them is to directly destroy the loom of fate. This is just a speculation and just based off my thought process and researching, it’s also just a theory so sorry if this ends up being confusing. 😅

This quest is so short yet Dainsleif and Kaeya screen time is a treat for such great lore

Y’know, in the part where we first encounter the Sinner, the Sinner says, “You are like a flower born in sin yet pure, spotless…” If we take this as dialogue meant for the sibling, then this is my theory: Considering that Rhinedottir was considered a sinner for creating a bunch of creatures that would end up trashing Teyvat during the Cataclysm (pretty irresponsible in my opinion. To be frank, I think Rhinedottir really deserved the title of sinner), the “born in sin” part could mean that the sibling really was created by/reborn through the Art of Khemia through Rhinedottir. But if the dialogue was meant for the Traveler, then what if it’s the other way around?

0:54 Eleazar and Withering are connected to the forbidden knowledge corrupting Irminsul through Rukkhadevata's remains inside the tree I thought this was made explicit already

21:42 "A flower born in sin yet pure, spotless." Yep, that sounds like a homunculus made from Khemia alright. Remember how Rhinedottir has the epithet "a flower that is not of this world"?

It kinda sucked that they showed the founder of the order to be a normal looking npc fella. I get that he can't be a playable character but he could have had his own design atleast.

25:35, I assume this is a video that's been in the making for a while? As I think it's also worth mentioning we've now heard Rhinedottir in the Windblume cutscene and yeah, they are absolutely not the same person.

Just waiting for this to post, was not disappointed.

I swear you help me with my theory crafting and keeping me sane helping me remember all this information ♥️ 😅bless

13:55 Or, you know, Dain is a pureblooded Khaenriahn and thus kept his body and mind intact rather than becoming a monster like Caribert is? Wonder why you gotta make a speculation with an obvious answer like this one

I always play in jp dub but man Eide's English voice actor gave him a maniac vibe with his laughters and it is pretty good.

In my perspective, the Abyss, presumably the Second who came is not inherently evil. It is described being a form of "truth" that can alter fate. Despite Tevyat living in peace under the rule of Celestia, again presumably the First, it seems Teyvat's "fate" or ending is something sealed and Celestia wants to keep it that way - Hence the conflict between Celestia and Abyss starts. It could be the civilization of Khaenriah wants to break Tevyat's sealed fate that's why they used Abyss' power and knowledge. From Celestia's view it's a rebellion, from Khaenriah, it's revolution. The Fatui/Tsaritsa wants to do the same as Khaenriah, to defeat Celestia without the help of Abyss. It's all gray really.

This archon quest is so short but the lore it brought is massive

Thank u sooooo much for this video 😘😘😘 It would be great to make such video after each archon quest ❤🙏

At my first run through the quest, for some reason, I immediately thought that the book in which the recipe of the medicine was contained was somehow connected with the "forbidden knowledge" that poisoned Irminusul. And that is why it was banned.

This is such a good quest bcuz it leaves a lot to build off from for the next quest dealing with the abyss and khaenriah and all that jazz. I don’t wanna say anything to definitively so I’m not gonna, but only one thing. I feel like this quest provided further insight that albedo was most likely created with the abyss sibling in mind, or as like a muse. Basically how khaenriah viewed the abyss twin as a perfect being, rhinedottire wanted to see if she can replicate them.

Also, while watching the part you have about Albedo, I remembered those experiments he did on the Traveler and that very suspicious purple stuff in the bottom of the flask.

The lore bombs from this quest are insane

Makes sense I would have missed "Princess Lumine" considering I chose her as my Traveler and Aether was previously in her place.

Very interesting ! Thank you for the great video !

Tbh, Kaeya freely speaking to us about Khaenrian's origins is a HUGE improvement compared to what he was before. He usually wouldnt utter even a word about this, What I think was that he most probably wanyed to tell something to the Traveller buit chose not to because of Dainsleif being tgere.

So I have a theory. The Sinner mentions that he is not a god, but that he will give them power. What if he put his essence in Caribert, and Caribert became the power that fuels the abyss? And the Loom of Fate project is to turn Caribert into a full fledged god with his power? Caribert is used as a vessel for the power of the abyss, and will end up becoming the god that they’ll use to try and reverse the curse and fight the archons.

man, every time I watch your video, I get goosebumps and think "holy cow that makes so much sense!" good content m8, keep it up

I think I said this before, but, I think the voice of Kaeya's father that we heard in the Mondstadt event sounds very similar to Pierro's voice. In fact, I compared it to when Pierro talks to Signora at the end of the Fatui teaser, and both voices sound oddly similar.

in-depth and on-point, I enjoyed this a lot!

the lore in this game is so much deeper that what is revealed on the surface

Been waiting for this! Tysm cat🔥

thanks for this video! once again amazing and very detailed, packed with information and helpful, well for example I didn't really follow the plot of the aranaras, and here they provide us with some lore.

Kaeya has one of the prettiest eye in game

Wohoooo yes thank you for uploading your thoughts❤❤❤always looking forward to hear more lore stories insights from u. I also am shocked that Khanreiah is near Sumeru but it made my instincts correct as to why there are big robots near the area.

I honestly think that the sibling is a puppet, similar to the shogun. That's why they suddenly appeared in teyvat or even why they hadn't obtained the power of elements.

Some extras. When the traveler wakes up Dein tells them they had a dream of their "sibling" and not "brother/sister", not giving away that it's a memory of the abyss counterpart. Talking to Chlothar we are given the choice of "some gods are my friends" or "some gods are my rivals". Since the game gives stupid choices at times i didn't think too much of it, but it stroke me as weird since only the Sustainer is a foe and not at the point of "rival", but actually enemy. It was thought cause the abyss sibling at the time was in no friendly terms with any "gods" unlike the traveler. The medicine requires power from the "god of wisdom" does not necessarily refer to Rukkhadevata. Sumeru AND Inazuma's quests have show another possibility. And the most important of all. Caribert removed his mask and saw himself while in the hut. No big explosions or anything dramatic. Just a broken mirror. Then outside he removes his mask and kaboom. What does this imply? That hilichurls hate washing themselves ^__^

I hc after meeting Dain, Kaeya went straight up to Diluc & share that information with him. "Ayo, remember when I told you I'm from khaenriah? Turns out the lore goes way deeper. IM A DESCENDANT OF THE ABYSS ORDER FOUNDER LMAOO ...My life is a lie & I need therapy."

I'm honestly asking here (if my tone of voice sounds arrogant, I swear it's not!) But why are we not considering the fact that King Deshret could also be one of the possibilities for being the thing wrapped inside that purple thing called the loom of fate? 🤔 He did go underground if I'm not wrong, so as to temporarily curb eleazar right? So essentially he was trying to rewrite the eleazar curse that was put on the people... In a way, he tried to rewrite their fate... Right?

I also find Eide's vestments super interesting. The star shaped central thingy looked soooo similar to the abyss person that tested us!

I belive that the two siblings lived in a different time line but connected with many things in the same time like Dein, he was a common character between the two time line but some how he began to remember things that was happened in the other time, the same goes to the Aranara. also I thing thatthis event happened in the exact same time but in different time line, and the corps are the evidence of the change that happened to the fate

Me and my bestie were WAITING for this!!!!! Loved it, I also came to the same conclusion that Kaeya is not a pure-blood but a descendent of the alberich clan.

You make amazing and nice content! Keep it up :)))

Great vid thank you

My theory is that the Tsaritsa had long since died and that Pierro was the one taking over everything. Venti mentioned that she had cut ties with the rest of the Archons after the cataclysm which might explain why we never see, hear, or know much about her apart from the Harbingers. She wasn't even hinted or seen when they bid their goodbyes to La Signora. My guess is Pierro hid the fact that the Tsaritsa died, took hold of her Gnosis and realized how much power it can give to someone. Given the Khaenri'ahns immortality, it can be assumed that he can sustain whatever damage or corruption the Gnosis has, the same as how Hulk's arm has been corrupted by the infinity gauntlet. The Cryo Archon is known as the God of Love, so it wouldn't make sense for her to do what Snezhnaya is doing, unless someone else took over.

gosh it feels nice to dive back into genshin lore 😂 i stopped learning abt genshin lore when sumeru came out becauss of the burn out i had (and still sorta have it) from playing genshin 2 years straight. altho i learned sumeru lore from the archon quest, i never really dove deep into the lore as i usually would. i definitely need to watch more videos abt it because i need to catch up on the lore 😂

yoo 30 minutes of CatWithBlueHat content!!!

Kaeya definetely was left in Mondstadt to infiltrate for Khaenri'ah Also, I'm not sure, but I think I remember Chlotar (sorry for the spelling?) calling the abyss sybling "Abyss Prince" not Khaerian, at least in the Spanish translation but I might be wrong So during the cataclysm Celestia called all archons to fight in Sumeru? About why the abyss sybling is not a descender, I think it's because at some point the abyss sybling achieved I think the Aranaras do remember someone helping them not just the Abyss Sybling ... But hey, I think the Abyss Sybling helped them to solve the consecuences of the Cataclism, so after the encounter with the Sustainer of the Heavenly Principles, the Abyss Sybling was casted to Sumeru? And there it helped the Aranaras Definitely the curse is Celestia's fault and the Archons do not agree anymore with Celestia, it's just surprising that Celestia just doesn't care about what's happening, the Archons cutting their ties with them or the Fatui gathering the gnosis... Or perhaps they don't know? But how come? Dainsleif isn't affected by those weird effects of mind because well, he is a pure blooded Khaerian, he is just cursed with immortality, not the lose of one's mind which is the curse that the Hilichurls have... (?) Also wow, in English Chlotar sounds 10 times creepier and crazier than in Japanese Wait, real queston, where is said that Khaerian existed for that long? Pretty sure Caribert's mother died after becoming a Hilichurl since Chlotar said he watched them both become monsters What's in that place where we saw the Great Sinner nowadys? I need to check that place to see if the entrance is looked or something Could it be that the Abyss Sybling actually bow down? Or was it talking to the Hilichurls? That would explained the "Born in sin, yet pure, spotless" since Hilichurls (Not pure-blood Khaerians) do not have any fault of the Great Sin that Khaeriah was judged for About the Great Sinner I've seen theories that afirmed that voice is the last king of Khaerian... And about the Sinner seeing the traveler I don't think it necessary means the voice has some "time powers" but it was the Sinner who made the Traveler see those memories, after all if the Abyss Sybling decided to join the Abyss after learning the Truth of this World, why wouldn't be the same for the Traveler? Maybe it showed the memories in order to bring the Traveler to the Abyss' side as well About The Primordial One vs The Second who Came... How do we know who won? And that's it, I'm sorry for the long text and thannks if anyone reads this, just some random thoughts and questions that I have while watching this, great video btw

the area we go to resembles enkanomiya's architecture a lot, which we know fell ages ago when the primodrial one fought the second descender

The abyss sibling most likely died and gold must've used abyssal magic to revive them. Making the abyssal sibling indebted to the abyss order.

I’ve been waiting for this video to come out lol

This lore is so much to take in. But we love it!! I'm always eager to see how the story unfolds.

More questions than answers. 🤔

Something tells me that " the thing " that Celestia feared was " The Abyss " Itself that was manifested when King deshret corrupted his people by accident and since the city of deshret was allies with khaenri'ah, they sent the giant ruin guards that were more vehicles of war than sentient robots like the current ones. After dealing with the threat, in the journals found inside the first giant there is notion of an infection that afflicted some of the khaenri'ahn soldiers and soon it passed to the ones beneath: this infection could have been The Abyss that we know now that transformed the minds and bodies of some of them before they were cursed by Celestia to perish.

Whoa, Dainsleif said "weave your destiny anew" in that old story teaser trailer a couple years ago. Just like Clothar said of Caribert. He was talking about the traveler. Will we become the loom of fate?

Something you didn’t mention, but seemed significant to me, was the fact that Paimon wasn’t with us. Granted, this is probably because the Traveler was experiencing the past via a dream affected by memories from the ley lines. Since everything happened inside the Traveler’s own mind, it would make sense that Paimon wasn’t there. On the other hand, Mihoyo rarely separates us from our little travel guide, and almost never without a reason. It makes me wonder if something different would have happened if Paimon had been with us… such as our encounter with the “Sinner.” It’s been widely speculated that Paimon has SOME sort of connection to Celestia, and it seems very likely that the “Sinner” has a history with Celestia as well, so who knows what might’ve happened if that had come face to face.

My guess is Kayea is related to Anfortas the Knight Marshall of Khaenriah. In the event, Kaeya’s father writes that Kaeya should never forget that the Albrechts were the ones to step in when Irmin the one eyed king became indisposed. And the one who stepped in was Anfortas. Meaning it’s quite likely Kaeya is a descendant of Anfortas and not of Clothar.

For me, this quest didn't really answer anything about the lore other than stuff we already know. They seem to be dragging it out and I am hoping for something major soon. Hopefully there is a part 2 for it. I feel like they need to answer a question of "Why is the Traveller so secretive?" They use an alias of some kind and never reveal any info. The Traveller has the knowledge of the Abyss but refuses to say anything. Is it because the Twin did it and caused the cataclysm?