Which side gives the best experience for a high paying career/job in the civilian sector ?

@rickisantos7547 Netsec and ADP. Comms can give you a good job but there's less variety. Like if you're got at SHF communication, you can work with the Navy, merchant marines, or maybe a comms listening stations. Probably a government job. Which is good. But ADP and Netsec you could work with anyone with a network in their company. Obviously the government, but also McDonald's, Walmart, pharmaceutical companies, etc.

Sorry I missed you comment, was on deployment. Good luck to you. Hope to see you in the fleet.

I am looking to be a CTN I already have my associates

Thanks Chief! I really appreciate it!

im a submariner IT. i went the radio/comms route. it's amazing man dont be down on yourself just qualify your inrate and dolphins then after that shoot for college or certs. it's an amazing deal tbh and save tf outta that money it'll set u up in the future. when i enlisted they were handing out 15k be wise with that 50k. also im pretty sure they're splitting IT again to Radio, LAN, and EW so try and go the LAN route if you can. and lastly if u get IT day classes after BESS tell Mr. Britton that ITS2 Morgan said what's up!! the best instructor i've ever had. you'll enjoy submarines and the career after the fact being a civilian IT.

How’s it going for you now, I chose the same job I ship out October?

It's an honor. Thank you for your support and thank you for your service. I'm in school currently for the Radioman side so I'll get more of that perspective than I did at the time of this video. Thanks again. Stay safe.

@@AaronPaulIbarrola did u go to corry station for radio school?

@@veghead1043 I personally didn't. I did it in Dam Neck, Virginia. But Corry Station is the more likely location, and San Diego also a possible place for the school.

Damn I wanted CTR at MEPS but I got IT and you can switch so easily 😭

Thanks. You take care as well.

What’s required to score on the Asvab to become an IT? I’m really nervous that I won’t be able to get the appropriate score.

@@CHUYx-py6hn As long as you get a 78 or so cause that's around more than what I got, you should be good. Just brush up on things like Math, Electronic knowledge, General Science stuff like that. You'll be fine. If you did well on the mock they give you at the recruiters office it's about the same type of stuff. Also if you don't get IT or they don't have IT available, you can always try again later. Don't get stuck at a rate you didn't want. Good luck. Stay safe.

Aaron Paul Ibarrola the only section that I’m honestly worried in is the math section, I’ve never been good at math. What do you recommend? Was the math section the hardest of them all? I’m going to try and study all month.

@@CHUYx-py6hn Oh I'm terrible at math too. I had to take Math 101 twice when I was in college. And in high school, I was always in remediation. But I passed and I had zero prep or studying because I didn't have anyone to ask at the time. So studying for it would definitely extremely useful I think. I don't really remember the exact content of the test but knowing how to read and do word problems from what I remember, is probably the biggest thing. Then knowing how to able to do the basic equations and how they might fit into larger more complicated equations. Think of it like an type of SAT or ACT Standardized Test. I wouldn't say it's the hardest but not every section of the exam is relevant to ITs. I guess for us who are bad at math it was relatively daunting. But you'll do well with a little effort. :)

Thank you! Good luck on your goals!

@@AaronPaulIbarrola Appreciate it.

@@JusticeNwokedi I scored a 47 but was off by 3-4 points for the rate I have. So MEPS let me get in despite the loss. But I'd say 70 and up is a good base to start with. Nothing less.

@@JusticeNwokedi, ASVAB score for IT: AR + 2MK + GS = 222 -OR- AR + MK + EI + GS = 222. What does all this mean? The ASVAB consists of 9-different sections. There are two different avenues to become an IT in regards to score as mentioned above. You need to focus on 4-of-the-9 sections when studying. In your case you already took the ASVAB test. Look at the AR, MK, EI and GS scores. These are known as “Standard Scores” on your ASVAB test results and they must add up to 222 or more. If so, you qualify for IT 👍 AR (Arithmetic Reasoning) MK (Mathematics Knowledge) EI (Electronics Information) GS (General Science) CTR ASVAB score is: VE + AR = 109 of higher. VE (Verbal Expression) is comprised of two ASVAB sections: PC (Paragraph Comprehension) and WK (Word Knowledge) combined to give you the VE score. AR (Arithmetic Reasoning) is the other section you are scored on. So, when studying for the ASVAB, mainly focus on the following sections: PC, WK and AR for CTR.

It's not hard but you gotta focus just like any other school. As for the work it's not hard. All the resources are available to be able to learn.

My apologies for the lateness. It would be worth getting any continuing education while enlisted. Not only just IT certs but apprenticeships. As for the ease, some commands make it easier than others. My current command gave me a waiver for SEC+ test and class. Others will tell you to do it on your own time. USMAP is one other avenue for preparing to get out as I let's you log your hours. As for the tuition assistance, it changed recently so unfortunately I am unable to explain it as I do not know myself. I'll see if I can do a video about it.

I think it would be worth getting a C School with a 6 year contract. Also see if you can work becoming a pushbutton E4 into the contact if you can. I'm not really sure how only having college credits vs having a degree with getting that auto advance works so you'll have to ask them about that. Getting a head as quick as you can is more money sooner so why not? Whether you're staying in you getting out, as long as you don't mind going to school for a little longer in the beginning, it would be helpful once you get to the fleet.

I would recommend asking a recruiter. Personally, I have no idea what my ASVAB scores are with the Navy as I didn't expect to join the Navy. Originally I joined the Air Force Delayed Entry Program (DEP), and then since COVID hit we were looking at waiting about a year. Therefore I ended up joining the Navy DEP program with the IT rate. Anyways my overall ASVAB score I can tell you was a 69

@@yousnicker7392 nice

@@yousnicker7392 I got a 69 too and aiming for a CTI rating

@@yasminea.4681, for CTI the ASVAB score is VE + MK + GS = 162 and the DLAB score = 100. What this means is VE (Verbal Expression) is comprised of two ASVAB sections: PC (Paragraph Comprehension) and WK (Word Knowledge) combined to give you the VE score. MK (Mathematical Knowledge) and GS (General Science) are the other sections you are scored on. So, add up the following sections: PC, WK, MK and GS. These sections must add up to 162 or higher to qualify for CTI. The DLAB (Defense Language Aptitude Battery) is a test that determines if an individual is eligible for language training. The test consists of 126 multiple choice questions and is five audio sections and one visual section.

@KickRoxEatDust, the ASVAB score for IT are these sections added together: AR + 2MK + GS = 222 -OR- AR + MK + EI + GS = 222. So, you can score lower in math (AR and MK) and score higher in GS (General Science) or EI (Electronics Information). As long as the sections above add up to 222 or higher, you qualify 👍 AR (Arithmetic Reasoning) MK (Mathematics Knowledge) EI (Electronics Information) GS (General Science)

93 is really good. I got like a 70 something when I took that practise ASVAB. IT is usually available. But if it's not don't take no or another rate for an answer. Be adamant about it even if you have to come back another time or take a back up rate and keep coming back until you get it. I heard both scenarios working for people. As long as you don't get tricked or pressured into taking a rate you don't want because that's years of your life right there. I'm not too sure about using the ASVAB score to get a regular job, if that's what you're asking but I'm sure you can try. Fluff it up in your resumé because that you got whatever score on the ASVAB. But with a score that high you should be able to get most, if not any, rate. Good luck and stay safe.

Aaron Paul Ibarrola Thanks! I appreciate the advise. They were pressuring me to go nuke but i’m more of a tech guy haha.

@@jameswar4786 No problem. Nuke is a good job but you have to both want it and have the mindset and fortitude for it. It's not the type of field to just jump into willy-nilly. A lot of Nukes end up regretting it.

@@jameswar4786 You don't wanna go nuke, having to constantly be around a nuclear reactor, but if you do go nuke, make sure you bring plenty of Radaway and Rad-X.

@@jameswar4786 Same for me. I had IT in my mind from the beginning. I also had AECF. I had so many options when it came time to pick at MEPS. The guy tried to sell me on Nuke and SECF. I ended up choosing the 4 year contract for IT.

I'm not entirely sure of the exact score needed but when you go to pick your rate, ask them if you can IT and if it doesn't quite get you there, ask them if they can give you waiver for IT.

@Chancellor Gladden, the ASVAB score for IT: AR + 2MK + GS = 222 -OR- AR + MK + EI + GS = 222. What does all this mean? The ASVAB consists of 9-different sections. There are two different avenues to become an IT in regards to score as mentioned above. You need to focus on 4-of-the-9 sections when studying. In your case you already took the ASVAB test. Look at the AR, MK, EI and GS scores. These are known as “Standard Scores” on your ASVAB test results and they must add up to 222 or more. If so, you qualify for IT 👍 AR (Arithmetic Reasoning) MK (Mathematics Knowledge) EI (Electronics Information) GS (General Science) ** The 51 score you have is the AFQT, which tells the Navy you are eligible to enlist, not what ratings (jobs) you qualify for 👍

It depends on the command. My ship didn't block Reddit and KZfaq but Netflix was blocked. But at my next command, Reddit and Netflix was blocked and KZfaq wasn't. And at my current command KZfaq and Reddit are blocked but Netflix isn't. Its weird, random, and probably evershifting. Because 4chan wasn't blocked on my ship for the longest time until someone got caught downloading... questionable memes. Then it got blocked. Reddit might have gotten blocked too after that. But its usually at the discretion of the IT's what certain things get blocked and who it gets blocked (or unblocked) for Lol For the ship WiFi, I've never been a ship that uses WiFi so I'm not a hundred percent sure. But to my knowledge it doesn't sound like its strong enough for those types of apps. I'll ask around tomorrow at work though, see if anyone has been on a ship with WiFi and get back to you on that.

@@AaronPaulIbarrola Thank you! Your videos are great and I was wondering if you're planning to make any new videos anytime soon since I think you explain the concepts and how to do things really well.

@@SomethingSpecial. I'll eventually make more videos. The last few videos I had in mind became obsolete when the Covid hit and its been harder than usual since my circle of people I can interview for information is limited. But I'm starting to get back into it. Thanks for the support. :)

@@AaronPaulIbarrola No problem man! Just one last question: how often do you travel? I know that may vary wildly but would you say IT's have a much better chance to see foreign countries because I've heard IT's can end up stationed in one spot for years or never even leave the states for their entire enlistment. But on the other hand, I've heard about IT's travelling a ton and seeing plenty of places and I can't just seem to find out what's more likely.

@@SomethingSpecial. I can't really speak for every rate but on the ship in Hawaii, I didn't travel more anymore than anyone else. The ship deployed to places like Thailand, Isreal, and Singapore so I was able to go there as did everyone on the ship. When I was a stationed at Yokosuka Naval Hospital, since it is in charge of clinics in Korea, Singapore, Diego Garcia, and other parts of Japan, I was able to travel to all those places pretty commonly. Right now I'm stationed at Naval Computer and Telecommunications Area Master Station Atlantic or NCTAMS LANT which is in Norfolk Virginia. I'm only gonna be here for one year and I haven't traveled anywhere. So I can tell, if someone were here for three year orders then they would be just as likely to not be traveling anywhere for work for the whole time. Although there is a possibility a sailor could become an Temporary Duty Assignment (TAD) or Individual Augmentee (IA) meaning they get sent somewhere as support. That's usually situational though.

Typically no but you can always try to get a waiver. If it's in your record then just be upfront with it to your recruiter.

I would say it really depends if you want a job as in computer repair, network engineering, secret information guard, and radio communications vs if you want a job as a store clerk, inventory manager, delivery and shipping, and post officer manager. There's more to both jobs than that and also more nuanced but that's pretty much a chunk of what both jobs can be like. Both jobs translate to jobs in the civilian world to their civilian counterparts but IT will help you if you plan on working somewhere with a secret or top secret clearance. However, that doesn't bar prior LS's from the military from getting those clearances later and working IT jobs. You'd just have to work at it after the military or on your own time. An LS's I know got out and is working for a shipping company. He said it's exactly the same job. So that's something to consider. In the end, it's really up to you. Both jobs have their ups and downs. It's all about preference. What both jobs probably have in common is angry customers. Either the customer will be angry at you because their computer is broken, usually due to their own fault, or the customer will be angry the parts they ordered are not here yet, because of the limitations of mail getting from one part of the world to another. I hope that helps. If you want a more in depth dive in LS just ask some questions and I'll ask our LS in my command. Good luck.

The difference is that for IT/ATF, you get more schooling and get an NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification), a specialization. It takes a little bit more money for them to school you, and you are in school longer, so to make up for it, they get to have you for two more years. It equals to about the same, maybe a little more, out in the fleet, but you do get advanced automatically at the completion of your schooling before you get sent to the fleet. Higher rank faster means bigger paycheck faster. The only downside is that it is two more years total. But whether you enjoy your time in and reenlist and/or learn something useful and get out eventually is up to you. For context, I did six years back in 2013, and I'm still in.

@@AaronPaulIbarrola okay thanks for the information I ship out in a month and my cousin (who’s an IT at Fort Meade) didn’t really know so I was trying to figure it out thanks

@codclipz8454 Yeah, no problem. See you in the fleet.

Only ever so slightly. When I was in elementary school and high school, I was always in remedial math. In college, I had to take Algebra 101 like two semesters in a row. Even today, I make jokes about needing to count with my fingers still. So I get the struggle. For the most part the math was really only in like subnetting and such. Since I have been working as an actually IT, the only math I've had to do was for logistics like inventory and prices. And at that point, a calculator is your best friend. For school I just had to come for extra help and do study groups. You'll be fine as long as you don't slack of. They are not out to fail you. It costs them a lot of money to put you through. So they will help you out for sure.

Yes. Unless you have Pseudofolliculitis barbae, a.k.a Razor Bumps, in which you would need to go to medical to have them diagnose you. If you have it and they clear you, you don't have to shave for a few months as long as you keep the paperwork on you. You'll still need to trim it though. If you don't have that condition, you will need to shave. If you are inclined and if your genes allow you to you can grow a mustache as long as you keep it in regulations.

More possible if you do 6

Generally not. But if you get and maintain your IT certs (Net+, Sec+, etc.) having 4 years experience in the navy will be helpful. You probably won’t be making 6 figures out of the navy, but you also shouldn’t have a problem finding a job.

Michael trash fuck the military I’ll just work federal then. Less headaches thanks again bro

MrSodaBelly wayyyy less headaches, I wish you the best

Yeah I think you did good.

How many years? I picked 4

Yeah, for hacking you could probably look at CTN. I'm not too sure about the specifics because all the CT rates are kind of hush hush, super secret squirrel stuff. At the very least, I do know they engage in white hat ethical hacking and red team vs blue team stuff so that's probably fun.

Cisco material. A+ specifically. Any videos that help you understand Subnetting. Subnetting is a small part of it all but it requires math. I had to practice it personally. Bibliographies. Bibs are resources for advancement but its the same type of stuff you'll see in class. It'll list a bunch of technical manuals and stuff that we study for our advancement. These you can find on NAVY COOL. Just google Navy Cool Bibs and use the Nav tool to find our rate. Also ask your instructor for help. I sometimes would ask them for extra help after class. Some people don't see that as a resource but it definitely is. You can probably also join the public Facebook group "US Navy IT's". Sometimes people have questions on there and they get answered. There is also a Private group "US Navy Information Systems Technicians" but this one they vet profiles if they have proof they actually been in. The main thing is reviewing the material they teach you hopefully they emphasize on what exactly is testable. That's the real thing. But every little thing helps. Quizlet might help too but only if someone before you bothered to upload questions. Or you could do it to help yourself and your classmates. Don't waste your off time, even if its just an hour after class or on the weekends, study everyday.

@@AaronPaulIbarrola thank you so much for the fasted response. You are the best.

Yes, absolutely.

@@AaronPaulIbarrola what kind? Top secret or general secret?

I'm not sure. I can always try for IT since I am socially networking right now so people know me. Before I joined I was working towards the medical field so that's an option too. I'm pretty on the fence either way.

Lol to an extent for IP Address stuff but in the long run not really.

@@AaronPaulIbarrola i suck at math and afraid i wont get through a school because of it.

@@Coinz8 You should be good. It's nothing crazy. I've pretty much been in remedial math since elementary school and had to take math 101 twice in college. The subnetting isn't crazy and that wasn't the part most people had trouble with. From what I remember, the instructors really helped you out, one because it would look bad on them if people failed, two because for about a week that's all your doing for like 8 hours a day so you'll definitely get it.

@@AaronPaulIbarrola Your words bring confidence. Last question, I dont have background in anything this rate covers. Will that hinder me?

@@Coinz8 Not at all. I was a dialysis tech before I joined. Medicine and Information Technology are as different to each other as can be. Their purpose is to build you from the ground up. They understand that not everyone is adept at everything or has experienced everything. Since, standardized tests like the SAT and ASVAB only really scale you on "common core" subjects, more comprehensive subjects just need to be drilled. Just think, they recruit from all walks of life in US and her territories. More than likely, we're just average on the scale for being IT's. But being in the middle somewhere means that there is at least half of all people who are just not as good. You'll be fine. You knows, maybe you'll realize this is what you were supposed to be good at all along.

Depends on how bad and if you’re actively trying to correct it. ITs need to be qualified for a secret clearance. Bad credit is an indicator of your ability to maintain personal responsibility and integrity. Also, if you’re experiencing financial hardship, you’re more likely to be open to bribes from foreign entities. It’s best to make sure you’re paying your debts even if it’s just minimum payments and you’re not showing late payments.

What exactly would you like to know?

I guess -how long it is -the difficultly -life as a fleet returnee(if it’s different) -the area -how you choose orders? Is it cmsid? -anything you want to mention, I’d just like to know what my future holds lol. Thanks -CSS2(ss) Greene

Vishal Greene it’s 3 months if you get 4 years but much longer for 6. It is actually easy and they’ll help you if you struggle. Fleet returnees live at nicer barracks on nas instead of Corry and don’t have to march, not a school drop outs just rerates. The area is okay, helps being 21 and having a car.

Vishal Greene hey did you ever start/finish that IT A school (C school too?). I’m also a fleet returnee and have the same questions.

@@reyyce4658fleet returnee is a car necessary tho? How far would I have to walk from barraks to class?