How do you kill a multimeter? Well it depends on the multimeter!
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@bvillas8 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration! I've seen lots os videos talking about input protection or the lack of it, but actually see it's effects is way better. Thank you for the video.
@marcucristian8010 жыл бұрын
I just ordered UT61E but I do not have those voltages to kill my meter! Who works with this kind of voltages they should use a FLUKE professional!
@markcummings1508 жыл бұрын
Nice to know my brymen bm869 is adequately protected. Thanks for the great demo.
@Vault_Tek_Industries Жыл бұрын
Great work! Thank you very much.
@ingenierocristian10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration, it makes me change my mind, I gonna buy the Brymen 867/9. By the way, it's quite ironic you are killing an UNI-T DMM with an UNI-T equipment =D.
@uiopuiop34723 жыл бұрын
irony roberto downes
@xmenken14 жыл бұрын
Each multimeter has threshold voltage and it is listed in manual. It is usually 1000Vdc and 600Vac. If you follow this limit, it won’t break.
@nathanruben33723 жыл бұрын
brymen is top of the line meter and fluke competitors and UL listed cat iv certification, and cost 4 times more. Not a fair comparision. People buy 61e for electronik work for low voltages.
@LightAges11 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I posted this days before Dave posted anything about his tests. I am supposed to do nothing just in case Dave might do it too? I think not. I think you can ask Dave directly too and he will say even if I did post this after him that he would have no problem with it. He would encourage it as a matter of fact. And even if Dave was upset, too bad for him. It is my right to post what I want on youtube. If he doesn't want these things on his forums he can delete them but I know he never will.
@JohnUsp3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing.
@mjlorton11 жыл бұрын
Great post, thumbs up and shared! Cheers, Martin.
@mjlorton10 жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@hyperluminalreality18 жыл бұрын
The UT61E is fine. You would have NEVER fried it in real world use. I normally test voltages higher than most anyone else will be testing. 700VDC in Ampeg SVT tube amps. To imply that a static charge from a rug will fry it is complete bullshit. It is a 22000 count meter that will run off of 2.5 vdc supply, thus using all of a 9v battery. In over 20 years of testing high voltage circuits and mains panel voltages with numerous meters, I have never needed even 2500v protection. Go look at Mjlorton for a great review of the UT61E including it's inferior but still perfectly adequate input protection for a $50 meter. The BM869 is over 200 dollars which you also fail to mention. Like racing a new Cooper Mini against a new Ford GT500. Heavy mismatch. And realistically, once again, you would NEVER have fried the UT61E in real world use.
@danuber55597 жыл бұрын
That's what I call a good speech. KZfaq is latelty full of retarded reviews
@mrpetit24 жыл бұрын
700v is not that much. A simple piezo igniter or a faulty ignition coil will probably fry the ut61e but the brymen probably survives that.
@stanimir41972 жыл бұрын
@@danuber5559 "1000V CATIII" - right there on the top, next to the jacks. And ut61e dies off a static discharge.
@LightAges11 жыл бұрын
Putting in the MOVs will help of course. I would be more inclined to use something like 1000V rated MOVs though.
@raytech6049 Жыл бұрын
These are varistor protected inputs which clamps the input.
@LightAges11 жыл бұрын
Don't think you are hearing anything real here. I had a problem with the audio that I didn't discover until the video was shot and I wasn't going to shoot it again. There is some pretty heavy handed audio processing in this video so ignore anything you think you hear.
@gfx200611 жыл бұрын
Nice demo! In my UT61E I put two 600V MOV's over those 2 spark gaps' unpopulated footprints. Do you think that helps the input protection?
@DLTX100711 жыл бұрын
I can hear a bit of a wideband noise emitting from something when the 2.5kv and 5kv tests were performed on the brymen though. I'm very sure it's wideband noise
@pathfinder2reality7 жыл бұрын
I have a UNI T UT 61E GS, made for German market and I can say that it is of much better quality than the one you showed. It has HRC input protection fuses, much beefier PTC and MOV-s , better shielding etc. All in all, a much better design, and scaled down to Cat III 300V.
@OSLebedew7 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, but where did you buy uni t ut61e?
@pathfinder2reality7 жыл бұрын
I bought it in Germany a few years ago. You can also find it on German ebay. The price was about 80€, I think. Anyway, I've been using it for quite some time now and had zero issues with it. You cannot buy a better multimeter for that money.
@OSLebedew7 жыл бұрын
Tnx!
@LightAges11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments.
@iamthearmul9 жыл бұрын
I have to point out, that UT61E is a good 38€ meter for low voltage use. Comparing input protection against a 250€ meter is not really a fair "vs" comparison. For a mains voltage at Brymen price, I would just buy a Fluke 177 and keep UT61E for the counts.
@InXLsisDeo9 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy it for that price ?
@iamthearmul9 жыл бұрын
Ebay, shipped directly from China.
@NoName-bt3oy9 жыл бұрын
Bullsh!t! It says 1000V CAT3 on the front, a very dangerous lie. If that meter is Cat 3/4 I am Elvis. Brymen are a quarter the price of Fluke in EU, and they DO meet their safety specs.
@RealationGames9 жыл бұрын
NoName Most sane people already know it's a lie because of the price. If you know the limitations(I set max 24V for chinese meters), it's good value for the money. It's obvious that you shouldn't touch HV with these cheap meters.
@meeder789 жыл бұрын
RealationGames exactly. For the UNI-T UT61E it is low voltage only. For higher voltage I check it with my Fluke T90 first and then use the Brymen 869.
@nlhans199011 жыл бұрын
Dave posted the same test 3 days ago, this has been online for 7 days.
@faustsmith7 жыл бұрын
What are the differences between the Brymen BM869 and the Brymen BM869S ?
@r4f43ll2 жыл бұрын
S stands for sport :)
@LightAges11 жыл бұрын
Yes I posted a link to this video on the eevblog forums. What is your point? I made the video and I am a member of his forums.
@wiltoncorreiadealcantara21667 жыл бұрын
Good morning my friend I purchased Dx.com came with defective non-alloy was detected that the relay Omron relay G5V-2-3V, 8-pin smoke. Buy Omron relayG5V-2-3V, 8 pin The UNI-T UT513A is with the relay burnt where and what I bu
@ronniepirtlejr26064 жыл бұрын
I only use mine up to 30 volts. I shouldn't have any problems! Thank you for the video!
@IgorAlov11 жыл бұрын
Oops. Sorry, first video, that I have seen was Dave's video. So, your video I have seen after the Dave's video. I checked the dates of the videos, and yes, I was wrong. Good luck!
@DLTX100711 жыл бұрын
I see, thanks.
@Ihavetruth2210 жыл бұрын
give prices!!!!
@RogovAB5 жыл бұрын
Why have DMMs been tested at 5kV only? You should try 25kV. Senseless test...
@stanimir41972 жыл бұрын
look at the ratings - ut61e - catIII-1000V (which is beyond a joke); brymen 869s is cat IV-1000V - and it should withstand 12kV transients.
@christopherjohnson42558 жыл бұрын
Should go all the way up to 12,000 volts?? Why are you surprised it can make 5,000? cat IV circuits are rated at 1,000 volts. But can withstand 12,000 according to national instruments.. Here is the source. www.ni.com/white-paper/5019/en/
@lesnagy95388 жыл бұрын
+christopher johnson I wouldn't say I was surprised. Yes, the CAT ratings call for quite a big energy hit at 12,000V. What it is still in dispute among many people is whether the meter needs to only not cause harm to the user, or still survive to function correctly.The UT61E would explode I think and so it fails both criteria outright. Actually the Digitek shown would also proabaly explode with a proepr CAT tests, but at least it won't die from walking around on a carpet and zapping the input by accident.
@christopherjohnson42558 жыл бұрын
+Les Nagy a fair point. I am looking at the 869 as my first meter. so far I haven't found any that get as close to what it offers for that price. why would the testing say 1,000v when it can handle much more?
@LightAges8 жыл бұрын
+christopher johnson What do you mean? A rating of CATIV/1000V has a specific meaning as mentioned. This means that you can use it on up to 1000V without any risk of damaging the meter, and that it will protect you as the user from spikes of 12000V.
@christopherjohnson42558 жыл бұрын
+LightAges So if i am understanding you correctly up to from [1,000v,12,000v] range is can only handle transient voltage? Is this why is has a 10A shunt? What if I want to measure constant voltages around 10,000? Should I just use resistors to get it down to the safe 1,000V range and do the math of the resistors to see what the input is before resistance?
@lesnagy95388 жыл бұрын
christopher johnson I am getting confused with what you are trying to ask. A 10A current measurement is unrelated to the maximum voltage rating. If you want to measure voltages higher than the rated use voltage of a multimeter, the safest way is with a high voltage probe.
@God-CDXX8 жыл бұрын
I HIT MY FLUKE 27 WITH 2700 VOLTS NO PROB
@rynax0095 жыл бұрын
I know an Australian doesn't like UT multimeter at all
@uiopuiop34723 жыл бұрын
stika stika
@IgorAlov11 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of this video you covered the same problem as shown by Dave. I think you shouldn't do this.
@OneCoolDude0811 жыл бұрын
Are you now going to go complain to Dave not to copy LightAges? Maybe you should boycott Burger King for selling fast food burgers since McDonalds did it first. Don't stop there. Post stern warnings to all KZfaqrs who do teardowns, reviews, pranks, or share funny cat videos since they didn't do it first. One thing is for sure, if you were an IC, you sure wouldn't be a logic chip!
@TheRecocebo8 жыл бұрын
Uni t ut61e is just great. What a nonsense you apply 2500 volt while uni t hasnt guaranteed you anything like that. It is more aqqurate than 10x priced flukes.
@LightAges8 жыл бұрын
+TheRecocebo Actually they do promise it will withstand a few thousand volts when they rate it with CATIII/1000V and CATIV/600V. The tests to certify for those levels of CAT ratings use 8000V and 12000V. There are also the problems of environmental static electrical discharges, like when walking on a carpet. So you say it is more accurate than $500 Flukes? lol
@TheRecocebo8 жыл бұрын
LightAges ok flukes are durable I agree but in a video they compared it with fluke 87. The result was surprising. Uni t measured better then 87. How come. Find the video and come back to defend flukes.
@LightAges8 жыл бұрын
+TheRecocebo Do a search on www.eevblog.com/forum about the UT61E and you will see varying opinions about it. Many people have had them fail without any apparent reason. Some have complained about accuracy drift. It would be hard to find the same complaints about a Fluke. You are making the claim that the UT61E is better than a Fluke, I don't need to prove anything.
@TheRecocebo8 жыл бұрын
LightAges Watch "Uni-T UT61E Multimeter Detailed Review - #0091" on KZfaq see this.
@LightAges8 жыл бұрын
+TheRecocebo So one person's opinion negates all the bad experiences others have had? Does my opinion mean more than his? Maybe, or not, on both accounts. If you like your UT61E, good for you. Be happy and move on with life. I have.