OLD vs NEW Golf Irons Testing with Mark Brooks

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Жыл бұрын

This video is a test of old vs new golf irons. Mark Brooks, a 7-time PGA Tour winner and 1996 PGA Champion, joins to conduct some testing of old vs new golf irons. More specifically, Mark tests his old 1999 Apex Forged Blade 7-iron against his current gamer, a PING i230 7-iron.
In this video, Mark and 2nd Swing's Drew Mahowald use Trackman technology at 2nd Swing's Dallas store location to identify the similarities and differences in this old vs new golf irons test.
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@mnslim2 Жыл бұрын

Amazing to see the tech improvements. But to also see how excellent of a ball striker tour level players are, even into their older years. Great video.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Definitely. Thanks for watching!

@RC.Time-Crawlers Жыл бұрын

By far, it's one of the best episodes. There's nothing like a master of the game sharing their skills. If you notice that quick squat before his catapult.That's something to be noticed. Thank you for sharing your experience. That's one of your best days at work, I'm sure.😉

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

This was definitely a fun one! And we've got more coming soon 👀

@BidenIsKing Жыл бұрын

I still play these Hogan irons! I just know them so well!

@joedoaks6517 Жыл бұрын

Real treat to have Mark Brooks on the channel. Really appreciate the playing information he generously offered.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!! We've got another one releasing today...stay tuned !

@ewheel1629 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing. He’s calling the shot before he even hits it and is delivering you’ve got to be special to be on tour.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Was a treat to watch!!

@ewheel1629 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it. Thanks

@Handletaken4 Жыл бұрын

Went to a Korn Ferry Qualifier. Kid from Okla Univ shot -19 in 3 rounds 7200yds. The next round of Qualifying he shot -4 in 4 rounds, missed the cut. To be a PGA player you have to be a witch.

@tonythaiger93 7 ай бұрын

@@Handletaken4 it's like special force of all special forces.

@deepee1544 7 ай бұрын

This is hands down the best 2nd Swing video that I have seen. Mark is super knowledgeable, he expresses himself so well and seems like a genuine and humble man.

@2ndswing 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching!!

@tomhoward1467 Жыл бұрын

Best video of the year.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We've got another one releasing this afternoon...even more banter with Brooks! Stay tuned!

@mikec.2314 Жыл бұрын

I loved everything about this. Tour ball striking and shot making is next level.... no matter the generation the player comes from.

@busman46 Жыл бұрын

Great to see Mark Brooks and have him share a bit of his knowledge. I rooted for him back in the day, he was a grinder in the best sense of the word.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@rickarpin8282 Жыл бұрын

This was worth it simply to hear Mark talk about the golf swing. Amazing!

@kblack3970 2 ай бұрын

This was Awesome. Seeing it done repeatedly vs an instructional video telling how it's done really resonated here! Amazing

@2ndswing 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

@pjcane5078 Жыл бұрын

Such a great video, really enjoyed the conversation and the casual tips. Awesome stuff!

@F7269 10 ай бұрын

always loved Mark Brooks swing, super pure. Great video. I also played Hogan irons back in the late 80s.

@kevinoneill2170 Жыл бұрын

That was an entertaining and informative video. Nice work, team.

@jdstan9650 Жыл бұрын

There is no mention of the loft on the old vs. new? The new 7 iron is probably closer to his old 6 (or 5) iron loft.

@glenburr6755 Жыл бұрын

Great video! One of the guys I used to look forward to following when the Tour came to town. Thanks! ⛳

@chuckpalmer284 Жыл бұрын

Always enjoyed watching Mr. Brooks play. Nice to hear his comments.

@strickphoto Жыл бұрын

This was awesome on so many levels. What a ball striker.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

@gibsonguitarplayer 2 ай бұрын

Great interview!!! What knowledge. Most players of this day and age want longer and higher just like the modern irons produce. For a guy like me…Marks age group…I have struggled with modern irons. Recently went back to 1986 Wilson Staff blades and it’s like going home. Lower ball flight, no wild distances to deal with. I am now scoring well again. Crazy isn’t it.

@2tcreative Жыл бұрын

This was awesome! Mark is a super guy and goes to show how much they knew about their swing and equipment. Hope you have him on more, or others like him. Would love to see him in person at your Dallas store.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We've got another one releasing this afternoon...even more banter with Brooks! Stay tuned!

@ohwowthatsgood Жыл бұрын

I love going to champions tour events. They're so pure and flush everything effortlessly. Really interesting to watch them play a course. nice video

@timstickney1401 Жыл бұрын

Loved watching this as much as Drew. The little nuggets coming from Mark were a great insight into how to play good golf. Would love more videos like this.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

It really was a treat to watch. I saw it in person, and I've gone back to watch the video a handful of times too 😂 - Drew

@Murf1802 Жыл бұрын

just paused video for few minutes, outstanding video, such great content, love it, Thank you guys, my first set of clubs 5 years ago was the Ben Hogen Ft worth black I absolutely loved them when I learned how to hit a golf ball, took 6 months but awesome clubs very bladesh, the 4 iron never got in the bag it was a straight small piece of black metal lol.! years later I game Mizuno pro 225s totally opposite from first set lol !!Thanks again love to see more like this!!

@jbsg01 Жыл бұрын

Great episode!

@TenPester Жыл бұрын

Amazing nuggets of information in this. I could listen to older tour players all day.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We've got another one releasing this afternoon...even more banter with Brooks! Stay tuned!

@brucelanier1003 Жыл бұрын

So cool! Thanks to Mr. Brooks!

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We've got another one releasing this afternoon...even more banter with Brooks! Stay tuned!

@jamesreynolds6750 Жыл бұрын

Great lesso and conversation. I hope you have more videos with Mark.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

We may have some more coming soon 👀

@sbauer44 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark! Outstanding video and very informative content!

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!!

@craigs19721972 Жыл бұрын

Be great to see Mark more often.

@v205 Жыл бұрын

Amazing swing and knowledge from Mark. 👍

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We've got another one releasing this afternoon...even more banter with Brooks! Stay tuned!

@paulmcgee1867 Жыл бұрын

Top player, very nice to see and listen to.

@vic888tor Жыл бұрын

Your best video ever, period!

@stevebuchanan4829 Жыл бұрын

I love this. The commentary is excellent.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!!

@bluesunproductions9079 Ай бұрын

This is great can’t believe I am just seeing this now. You need to do more pros

@2ndswing Ай бұрын

Always a blast to work with them!

@PNW_Sportbike_Life Жыл бұрын

Really fun video guys! I play i230s as a 19HCP and I absolutely love them; (4-U). I’m really coming into them and the HCP is dropping.

@michaelreilly5888 Жыл бұрын

Love Mark Brooks! He knows the game we play.

@mauricejones3387 4 ай бұрын

Shows how good Mark was.....one of my favorite Players back then. Notice how he can just call his shots. A true golfer!!

@2ndswing 4 ай бұрын

It was a treat to watch!!

@dazaaw Жыл бұрын

Mark is a super iron striker, calling and hitting those shots..great insight.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We've got another one releasing this afternoon...even more banter with Brooks! Stay tuned!

@rwdriver300 4 ай бұрын

Guy is a machine, so consistent.

@steveludwig4200 7 ай бұрын

Awesome demonstration by Mark. Can't wait until my son gets to begin taking lessons from him!

@jimfarrell7196 Жыл бұрын

Super interesting with great information.

@73henny Жыл бұрын

Great to hear is thoughts

@jeffchausse7091 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@lawbinson Жыл бұрын

Great stuff. I think Dynamic loft would also be a great number to have on screen.

@johnmclelland4278 Жыл бұрын

I’m still playing a set of mid nineties Daiwa DG-201 irons and still love them.

@BFisherMKE Жыл бұрын

This was freaking awesome.

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!! If you want more content with Mark, check out our Dinner with a Winner video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZl9ftRqtdXDoqM.html

@industrialpalletworx3548 Жыл бұрын

I could watch that and pick his brain all day. I remember watching him win the 96 PGA. I had just graduated high-school

@Itagami89 Жыл бұрын

These vids are so good.

@khanisahebjam2147 Жыл бұрын

Played with Mr. Brooks at a Nationwide pro am at Somerby in Byron Minnesota!! Great guy we had fun and he did some trick shots too!!

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

He's awesome!

@emiliojesena1800 Жыл бұрын

There was a golf ball well before the paradigm shift in golf balls (Titleist Pro V1). It was the Spaulding Tour Edition. It was sold in the middle 1980’s, and it was basically a solid core ball as well. The primary user was Greg Norman and he would basically thin the irons shots on purpose to create gobs of spin. Cost him at least one major, the 1986 PGA Championship. Then later, the Strata replaced the Tour Edition. But of course when the Pro V1 because of the large volumes of tour players who played Titleist anyway, the rubber wound golf balls would become obsolete.

@steveludwig4200 6 ай бұрын

Titleist have ALWAYS been the best balls and always will be.......The only reason any tour pro has ever played any other ball is when they are getting PAID $$$ to play it.

@jeffreyness355 6 ай бұрын

Mark is amazing - he has the knowledge and ability of a true master - he talks about playing 25 years ago like it was yesterday

@seancook2264 Жыл бұрын

I used to list after the Hogan Apex irons. Never good enough to do them justice. Played Ping Eye 2 Copies! currently transitioning from MP20-MB’s to i230 irons. Very different “feel” but the forgiveness and consistency is impressive. Still get good results from some pretty poor strikes! Hoping they will help me shave the last few shots into cat A.

@drgrzz Жыл бұрын

Just awesome. Hogans look so sleek but I am a duffer and I could not ever play a blade. Love the old vs new.

@jaychu3850 Жыл бұрын

Amazing to see a real pro hit shots wow

@bigbertha8 Жыл бұрын

So good!

@Trump2024Kentucky Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video 👍🏼🇺🇸

@martinwilliams4759 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic a great player

@cwugrad396 Жыл бұрын

i remember him. first shot one one single line. dead straight. second shot was practically straight - barely left. damn

@JT-od4df Жыл бұрын

i play 2009 nike victory red blades with tw stamped on the back and they are awesome probably one of only a few that play them

@emiliojesena1800 Жыл бұрын

Interesting that Brooks was the last major winner before Tiger changed the game 7 months later. Great trivia question.

@stanthomas9890 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding

@benjaminberan7645 Жыл бұрын

Great episode, but I'd like to see a little closer apples to apples with the Hogan Apex with the Nippon Pro 105. With the S400 at 132g you are certainly going to have a slower swing speed, lower launch and peak and less carry.

@andrewstorm8527 Жыл бұрын

Firstly great video.. what a player. Amazing to see his control with that Hogan, BUT question…there is 3 degrees of loft difference between those heads and the shaft on the Ping is probably lighter. Easily hit a club further?

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yes, 3 degrees difference and a lighter shaft. So the increased distance is expected. But the spin numbers and the height/landing angle are what impressed Mark the most. That's where the updates in club design and technology helped in this case

@Flogger72 9 ай бұрын

More distance with the game improvement and more forgiving, but he had much more consistent strike with the old blades and more consistent start line with the old blades.

@whocares3986 Жыл бұрын

This guy could get it around. Looks like he still can. Very underated player.

@mauricejones3387 4 ай бұрын

Would love just half his game!!

@martinramirez1982 Жыл бұрын

I came to this video in hopes of finding an answer to this question. I am a beginner golfer looking to buy my first set of clubs. I recently talked with my grandpa and he offered to give me his set of ping irons and callaway clubs from the 90s and I wondered whether a set of cheap modern clubs (looking at a nitro set from walmart) or an old set of callaways and ping would be a better

@chrissnape9537 Жыл бұрын

I'm still using my Ping i3 from 2002. I have noticed guys that I was one club longer than are now even with me or a little longer

@hbyrdut Жыл бұрын

Good job Drew! I would have been a little tight.

@ssubotai Жыл бұрын

If his Apex 99 is stock the 7i is 36*, the Apex 6i would be 32,5* and closer to his new 7i at 33*

@davidwalker683 Жыл бұрын

Awesome

@johnryal Жыл бұрын

Those were awesome to hit.

@rjbrewer57 Жыл бұрын

Ironicly I still play hogan 1999 5-p. If Langer can hit the 3 iron he is a way better golfer than me. My back up set is ping s 56. so this video really hit home with me.

@samchisholm2088 Жыл бұрын

What a ball-striker. On command....any shot.

@andybecker5001 Жыл бұрын

How many in a row could you hit like that? A lot. I watched him on the range Sunday night at 2001 us open. He went all the way through the bag. It was a line of golf balls a yard or two apart of dispersion all the way down the range distance wise, including the driver

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

And he's still got it! More to come 👀

@JT-od4df Жыл бұрын

also is it possible to have groves cleaned up or it not recommended

@barryswan5237 Жыл бұрын

great video. did anyone notice that the club head speed was 3-4 mph faster with the newer club? why?

@2ndswing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Weight of the shaft and overall weight of the new club is lighter

@barryswan5237 Жыл бұрын

@@2ndswing It would be helpful to know that data in order to show how that delta translates into height and distance differences. Perhaps that gets into proprietary data?

@emak4558 Жыл бұрын

The ball. That would be interesting. The ball with the old clubs.

@SteveSmith-zz4ih Жыл бұрын

i need MB on my Ambrose team, seems to know what he is doing - I don't have any blinking idea.

@Caddiesense Жыл бұрын

C'mon Drew. Just go ahead and accept it. It's time for you and the wifey to move to Texas. It won't take THAT long to learn how and when to say y'all. 🤣

@Mr.Steve-O Жыл бұрын

Mark needs to replace Chamblee on the Golf Channel asap 😆

@han7solo Жыл бұрын

Way more insightful content than from KZfaq pros showing off 300+ simulated yardage.

@timmcdonald9877 Жыл бұрын

Hook’em Mark!! NRH says howdy!!

@Station2Station-du2gh Жыл бұрын

I will say that the PING doesn't sound good in this video, which echos my experience. It felt very firm, if not HARD in my testing. The feel alone kept me from going to an i230. (4.6 cap). This is different than the iBlades and the i230 which felt fine for being cast. The i230 do not feel fine.

@rjbrewer57 Жыл бұрын

I analyzed brooksies non verbal communication and speech patterns. I think that late at night, when no one is around, in his heart of hearts, he wishes he was playing the hogans

@bkf22002 Жыл бұрын

Still world class ball striker

@bigbluemsp Жыл бұрын

Huge sound difference between a true forged and a premium cast club head.

@itsyoboitrizzy4841 7 ай бұрын

I have ping clubs, and I actually play decent with it, but it has a 0% forgiveness😂😂,and fucks up my game, and I'm wanting to either get Titleist or Callaway.

@gdo3510 5 ай бұрын

It’s not the club. It’s you. Those i230s are super forgiving for what kind of player they are aimed for.

@ooojonooo Жыл бұрын

Kinda crazy that over 20 yrs of innovation only results in a 10yd distance difference.

@VoodooChicken13 Жыл бұрын

Not even that, the i230 is loft jacked, so its about as expected

@enzy6434 Жыл бұрын

You seem inexperienced at golf to be thinking that way. It isn't all about "distance". The newer, modern clubs are consistently hitting higher spin then the old clubs (thus giving more stopping power), and are hitting the ball a lot higher (even more stopping power to hold greens). And are overall a lot more forgiving for thin / fat shots and will get a lot more distance on mis-hits. So the difference in reality is a LOT more then just "5-10 yards of distance gain".

@ooojonooo Жыл бұрын

@@enzy6434 LOL are you serious? Did you not watch the video at all? The tour pro had hit most of his shots pretty consistently with pretty much the same spin and with a pretty tight dispersion. Not only that he was able to shape the shots to his liking for both models. My point is that the biggest differential between the two and 20+ years of innovation was the distance. Is that not true? And to be fair to the other guys point, the lofts definitely played a role in that so I guess 20+ years of innovation in the hands of someone who is a good ball striker is minimal to say the least. Higher MOI might play a factor if you aren't a good striker but as you can clearly see in this video, in the hands of someone actually good, it means little or nothing. This is the same reason why you don't see pros playing "super game improvement" clubs on tour. Oh but go ahead and make wild assumptions based on one line of comment.

@ricky454100 Жыл бұрын

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@graniteman62 11 ай бұрын

Mark Brooks wasnt a player i liked, he was little grumpy old school player in his prime had to be to concentrate to compete against top players but very much appreciate his ball striking, shot maker as he wasn't a long player, he knew his game had great short game and good putter, off the course probably great guy