Same

How when dude is guessing on what he thinks?

Nope, it was speaking on them to the public. Pac went against the grain

Both of you guys have good points! I’ll give you the 3rd: Iron Mike, his cousin in the interview, and Biggie all warned Tupac about hanging with these dudes-“you’re out of your depth”-came straight from Mike Tyson and he still didn’t listen.

No Tupac toxic behavior got him in trouble

@@jojosaylor8996 we all have some toxic traits, nobody's perfect.

Yes, people always jump to Suge and death row. But if there is no Jack and henchman, there is no rape case, no Quad shooting. Which means no bad boy war, no jail, no being forced to sign to death row in order to get out of jail. No Mob Piru affiliation, no jumping Orlando, no drive by and death

Because Pac would pop people. He proved that in Atlanta. He was trying to protect himself when he got robbed in NY., but he still should have givin up his jewls...

Nope Haitian Jack was in his feelings cause Pac called him out for being a dirty gutter rat fed informant. The Haitian goons around him like Jimmy seen that they concucted an elebarate plan to rob Pac for all he had and they used his right hand man Stretch to get the play by play the night of Quad shooting,.

They left out the part about them trying to extort him. He got setup on that rape charge and they left him out to dry. He was with Jack everyday and after the rape case they left him to hold the bag. Once his money was running out they came back around saying they could make his problems go away if Jimmy mamanged him and he signed to Bad Boy.

Yep according Un (Rivera), Pac , when realizing Jimmy was trying to press him , told one on a call to suck his private parts . That basically sealed the series of events .

​@@Judah-144They also left out the part where numerous people told him to be weary of the company he was keeping and didn't listen. Then when it all goes sour he tries to blame the same people who warned him in the first place. Like the saying goes "hard head makes a sof ass."

Madonna knew them too that is why Pac warned her in his letter to her

Pac took Madonna from Haitian Jak. She was dating Jak before Pac, but once Pac started hanging around them he took her from Jak & Jak got revenge on Pac by sending the girl to falsely accuse him of rape & helping Jimmy Henchmen set him up for a robbery at Quad studios.

Ayanna said she didn't know Jack prior to meeting 2pac. Whether that's true or not, who knows.

​@@solomongrundy1467in all fairness, that's what she's supposed to say. Admitting to knowing him before puts a huge wrench in her accusations

They're not friends at all but he did sleep with Haitian Jack during the same time as Tupac

Exactly

He could be your henchman

Haitian Jack sounds sketchy too 🤷🏿‍♂️

Exactly just like that rapper that Melly kid last name demons

@@emergeNvrfacts

That makes sense.. because Zayd was there, he said in his Info Minds interview that he went outside after the shooting, and cop was outside of there, and they made eye contact, and the cop smiled at him

the freaking PBA is right up the street. I’m so tired of people not thinking and using common sense

I caught that too. He said he got knocked three days before right there. But they got a pass. He didn't say that for nothing.

So

@jsanders9975 if you listened to the interview he said they were from the same hood . When they weren't

Jack was from off Church Avenue “Gun Smoke.”

How is that telling on himself . They called him to brag thinking he would be happy that's what he meant by that . Jimmy ordered it by himself

@@samj458 He told em what Jewellery Pac had and how much it was worth. They called to confirm they got it and he hung up cause it went south. That's attempt murder charge right there, that's why few are telling the truth. Even Stretch who was giving Jimmy henchmen info on Pac was covering for the shooters by claiming Pac shot himself, none of them wanted to catch an attempt murder charge.

@@samj458 wasn't no bragging. They messed up... they was supposed to robbed him and beat him up not shoot him. So they called to tell jack PAC was shot. It's probably why they lied and said he shot himself once to cover they ass

Plus they left the Rolex watch ⌚ on him & that left a message so he knew who sent them robbers

​@@samj458Why would you call Jack then? Lol makes no sense You would call henchman if he is the guy who paid you to do it. Why call a nigga that has nothing to do with it? Lol make it make sense

Pac new he would be legendary. Pac is Iconic💯

Not anymore

Get off the wood!

Definitely..I think he would've went into politics similar to what Charles white has done from listening to his interviews and speeches. Imagine that🔥

Biggie was better but pac didn’t kno you can tell he didn’t kno

Haitian Jack was a snitch/Federal Informant. Those dudes have a license to commit crime.

@@PersistentPatriot stfu. Haitian Jack wasn't no snitch. Yall 2Pac fanboys take whatever Pac said and just run with it. Pac didn't know wtf he was talking about and thats why he got popped in the first and got himself killed in the second place. Pac was a buster and died a coward.

Why would the feds be on it??? Yall 2Pac fanboys with yalls dumb conspiracy theories are getting more ridiculous every year. Grow a brain. Pac set himself up by trying to be something he wasn't

Jayz,Busta,Fat Joe,,Ice T ,LL and the dope part their all alive. They stayed in their lane. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Outside of 2Pac fan channels, no one is really talking about Pac like that bro. That’s like going to a fiebre convention and saying, damn people all over the world love furbees! I love Pac, but stop it guys! 😂🤣😂

@@christopherblake2588 Outide of 2Pac Fan Channels ? Nigga Funk Flex Wack100 03 Greedo DJ Vlad Lil Boosie Than you got 1k 2pac trolls in every comment section Plus He just got* his Hollywood walk of Fame !!! GOAT 🐐 WHETHER YOU HATE HIM OR LOVE HIM✊

❤hey they said All the real niggaz r dead or in jail 🎉boom

Yeah, everyone know is claiming gang gang..

Because they obviously help to orchestrate these events. Age old COINTELPRO tactics

Bingo bingo someone has finally said it go ahead bro and keep speaking them boys always been after the don

@@TheHumanBallsack kzfaq.infodDI_idtjANk?feature=share

Take note that the police were involved in every way

💯 . Pac felt that! But when he found deathrow finally found a home

@@12tribes61 found a home the mob nixxas letem gt smoke

​@@12tribes61The same people that got him rubbed out 🤡

Daddy issues

Mike Tyson told him he's out of his league. BIG told him stay away from them dudes

He grew up with gangstas but these New York cats was different kind of shiesty

Them west coast nixxas was extorting pac

@@blastavetv5018 nah it was the east that was tryna extort him but he went back since that shooting so they couldn’t really

​@@blastavetv5018no they weren't

He was hard headed too, and hot tempered, so it was easy for other Niggas to influence him and fill his head with shit

Thank you plain common sense you speaking but these 🤡 will keep putting PACs idiocy off on Biggie

Exactly!

Just like Biggie played with LA Politics and lost...faster than a New York minute 🤷🏿‍♂️..

@jeco5729 BIG never played in the LA politics? Puff did...BIG got caught in the middle.

@@ThirtyThreeHipHop Puffy and Biggie released who shot ya. Bad boy co founder, said Puffy he did this on purpose to taunt Tupac. Puff and Biggie started the east coast west coast beef. Even if it was Puffy idea, big was still a grown man who could have said no. Also Biggie did a freestyle in LA bragging about killing Tupac.

Allegedly wasnt involved but he was relaying messages after the fact from henchmen

​@@HurrikaneBEA5TThe Young Gunz were gonna go at Jimmy and his crew for what happened. Henchman called stretch mothers house threatining stretch. Those messages were to stretch from jimmy not for 2pac.

@@kenankunduklija2505 no he’s talking about when jimmy was telling stretch “pac got to get his money up b4 he goes to war” stretch was going back and forth relaying messages to pac while pac was hiding in jasmine guy’s crib.

​@@kenankunduklija2505right

Stretch had no involvement. Yall 2Pac fanboys just tale whatever Pac said and run with it. Pac told only half of a story which is a completed lie.

Love Pac but he lost that battle!

loud mouth stupid PAC

@@WallTrapMediadid he? He’s immortalized, Henchman will never be free from the penitentiary and Jack is deported and not totally free.

50 won the war for pac

​@@ToasterForLife2pac had nothing to do with Henchman receiving a life sentence or Haitian Jac being deported

You know pac from NY too lmao.

His whole family was in NY his stepfather’s cousin was a well respected major player in NY

@@queenofnyc5584 yeah I knew that 20 yrs ago so what’s funny and how did u assume I didn’t know that you must be a dumb one track minded bum. I bet you live with yo girl or yo momma

@@MrWARBUCKS24 oh yeah I forgot about Matulu and Mopreme got family there too

@@MrWARBUCKS24 damn Tulu just died that didn’t age to well

Explain how

​@@thunderouso6662Dude probably has no reason for his answer.

It doesn’t matter now. Nobody is getting prosecuted over any information he reveals at this stage. It’s been 30 years-and most of the cast of characters are either dead, in prison, or deported. Those that are alive will actually like his revelations, as everyone loves notoriety these days, whether good or bad.

Why do 2Pac fanboys keep saying this ridiculous statement as if they are going to actually do something to protect these individuals they want protected.🤦🏾‍♂

He just repeating wat he see in comment section on all social media platforms smh it’s almost a fad now lol

But 2pac didnt have to agree to seeing her again. And if the incident went down the way he himself said that it did then what jury is not going to hold him primarily responsible? When Ayanna asked if she could see 2pac again does this... "... I had given Ianna Jack¹s Skypager number, because she kept calling and leaving messages on my machine. I said, ³Call them, they¹re my road managers.²" Then he says this the night of the incident... "So we’re all sitting there talking, and she’s making me uncomfortable, because instead of sitting with Nigel and them, she’s sitting on the arm of my chair. And Nigel and Trevor are looking at her like a chicken, like she’s, like, food. It’s a real uncomfortable situation. So I’m thinking, Okay, I’m going to take her to the room and get a massage. I’m thinking about being with her that night at Nell’s. So we get in the room, I’m laying on my stomach, she’s massaging my back. I turn around. She starts massaging my front. This lasted for about a half an hour. In between, we would stop and kiss each other. I’m thinking she’s about to give me another blow job. But before she could do that, some niggas came in, and I froze up more than she froze up. If she would have said anything, I would have said, “Hold on, let me finish.” But I can’t say nothing, because she’s not saying nothing. How do I look saying, “Hold on”? That would be like I’m making her my girl. So they came and they started touching her ass. They going, “Oooh, she’s got a nice ass.” Nigel isn’t touching her, but I can hear his voice leading it, like, “Put her panties down, put her pantyhose down.” I just got up and walked out the room" 2pac's own words...based on his own account of course he will be guilty (not of rape but of allowing something to happen) in the court of law. She came there under the pretense that she was coming to see him...his own words. 2pac was clearly trying to hook up the homies with the groupie if we follow imo based on his own account. It didn't go right.

​@@erfbgu2643 Pac fans don't care about the facts and they ain't reading all that. They too busy quoting lines from Makaveli lol

​@@erfbgu2643damn

​@@futureflavors205 I agree

Both Ayanna Jackson and Haitian Jack said they never knew each other before. And if thats (which it isn't) 2Pac decided himself to leave a room he was already in just to sleep in another room at his hotel suite🤦🏾‍♂ Why would he do that? But yall 2Pac fanboys can't think for yourselves and only believe that lying, paranoid and delusional wannabe thug

Nah like Mike Tyson said he was out of his league. You can have all the heart in the world but you need to use your brain

​@mrocto4839 tes Mike Tyson did say that. Funny thing is, Tyson was being managed by Jimmy Henchman at the time when him and Pac were real cool up until Pac died. It's real sketchy to me how that connection was not a conflict of interest, especially with Tyson being from Brooklyn as well.

Pac told ya fear is stronger than love even his own cousin was scared lol I got nothing but respect but u can tell his opinion or advice was based on fear Pac don't want anyone like that he is militant he will cut u off quick if he sees any cowardness it's a fact makaveli was the don

@@shhadoethugautonomy8519 Y’all D ride soooo hard it’s crazy!! He expected his unarmed homie to wrestle 2! guys with guns.. Are you stupid?!? Tyson warned him.. Biggie warned him (then pac snitched to Jack) and biggie got robbed.. I wouldn’t be cool with pac after that either! Bitch ass N!&&@ If he was so militant why did he tell Jimmy to suck his D! Called jack a hanger on? Jajajajjaa Dude thought that ballerina thug life talk was real.. until he found out what real is.. Ask Orlando..

No, he said he wouldn't speak on things that he doesn't know for sure. That's the correct way to deliver information. Loose lips will get you killed. Talking crazy behind someone's back will get you wacked

@@ijumpjudy we banged your mom's....Pacs a Playa

Yes, @pac gave an interview to an New York Newspaper and told the nickname in public and said that that the other person got away with it. he also said this in an interview on tv. It's on youtube.

@@ijumpjudy huh

@@ijumpjudy suge?

And that Rolex probably had intelligence connected to it like they do with the mob. That dolly was probably encrypted with a micro camera.

...

Pac wasn't gonna do a thing.

Pac wasn't strong enough in the streets to go at Jimmy or Jack. If he deleted these guys and got caught, he's going to prison. Pac had no choice but to make dis records about it.

You pac stans and y'all conspiracies 🤡

@@ILoveTheAllCreatorY’all Pac haters with y’all conspiracies

@@dannybuck4445 😑

​@@ILoveTheAllCreatorThey didn't take the Rolex watch that Jack gave Pac. Allegedly Jack told Pac he doesn't take back gifts and this was a message to Pac to let him know who was behind the robbery.

@@solomongrundy1467 🧐 Where did you get the alleged piece of the statement you made?

Yup 👍

Makes sense to me but PAC Stan’s don’t hold him accountable for all of the stupid shit that he repeatedly did and got himself into. Biggie told PAC to be careful and don’t roll with them dudes he was rolling with but PAC didn’t listen.

@@jasonisrael9557 Exactly, I lked Pac but we have to call a spade a spade. The same thing that got him shot in NYC got him killed In LA, running with the wrong people, not listening to those close to him, acting and speaking before thinking, underestimating the streets.

💯

Cold Facts!💯

Yup

Yes, I'm glad this video cleared everything.

Nobody said big set up pac stupid ass lol

​@@donnie4262 "Who shot me but you punks didn't finish" 🤥🧢

2pac man groupies still going to diss biggie smalls

@@quanbrooklynkid7776 bro I’m convinced they will fight each other to be in a doggy style position for Pac to fuck them if Pac was gay.

He going Brazy

He went at B.I.G. because he was at the top he admitted it himself It was a major plan a Major strategy Don’t be dumb kid

​@@j2323j It was also major player hating and a major fail. Big went diamond 💎 everyone from NY he went at sold multiplatinum. Fugees outsold him and won Grammy for best album in 96

Sad how everyone knows Biggie’s death was because of PAC recklessness… Love both Legends !!!

Scooter was in North Carolina where do y’all get this info from Lmfao

@taezos3731 scooter was back and forth North Carolina and brooklyn

@@samj458 I said scooter was in north Carolina that night when it happened… y’all don’t even know these dudes

@taezos3731 ahh how you even know lol

@@samj458 Cuz I know them Nigga

Exactly! Especially nowadays these young cats don't care who you are.

@@Soill33 right! And another thing... pac got ROBBED and was so called "disrespectful" and was "acting" like wtf yall literally robbed a person how tf you think he was gonna respond ... they try to say they just wanted to teach him a lesson like WTF how would pac know that this quad robbery was just to "teach him a lesson" BOMB 1ST !!!

​​@@Soill33ol these young guys would have died quick back then trust me those guys moved militant it was worse back then check the murder rate

Exactly they wanted Pac to be scared of Jack because they was. He spoke his mind and didn’t care. They saying Pac underestimated Jack but clearly Jack and Henchmen underestimated Pac because they never expected the beef that came from that night

"King of NY" was just a moniker. Its not to be taken literally. Only an idiot would think otherwise.

@troyf.9050 yea I like Pac, but that was crazy! I bet Biggie was scratching his like tf is he on? 😆

@@bxboro4662 Bars!!😂

Pac didn't blame Biggie for the shooting in NY he just said Biggie knew about the set up

You don't know nothing trust me if u did u wouldn't think u would know lol 😂 Pac would've smoked these dweebs ofcourse he never respected cowards Pac would spit on cameras he don't got th3 time for suckas

TRUTH SPOKEN

I don't believe Jack could have stopped it. Even if he told them to leave Pac alone, they didn't have to listen to him. It's not like Jack was their boss. Jack wasn't going to go to war with these guys over 2pac. Especially after Pac was publicly disrespecting them.

To destroy the label Bad Boy which Jack/Haitian was getting money from, this is why Biggie says "Extortion came quicker, Bought the Range" in Long Kiss Goodnight song

@@TheStreetFoolosopherMr187 interesting

@@TheStreetFoolosopherMr187 no one was extorting bad boy

@@samj458 yes they was until the feds started harassing bad boy

@TheStreetFoolosopher-dn9rf I will say it again NO ONE was extorting bad boy . Puff , Jack and Jimmy was friends . Puff had a respected crew in NYC. They was all cool with each other . Jimmy and Jack to this day still respect puff

caus Pac was too scared to say what really happened.

No one knew who Jimmy Henchmen or Hatian Jack was at the time. I think he went at Biggie first because everyone knew who he was. Even though Big had nothing to do with the robbery, Pac saw him as guilty by association.

Over nothing man. That man was tryna find something to be down with and disrespected the wrong gangster and knew he could’ve been killed and aligned himself with protection being death row. 11 months straight after prison you join the biggest blood set and feel untouchable just dragged himself down with everybody around him. Sad every time you hear that it all could’ve been avoided if pac simply backed off or at least not make it so public.

Goodlife

Coward move

He never blamed Big

​@@wolf7el356He accused Biggie of having knowledge of the setup. There was no evidence Biggie had prior knowledge of the Quad robbery.

What did he and Jimmy do? Selling drugs?

Jack was a stick up kid . Henchman was a kingpin

And was scared so he blamed biggie

yes in over his head while jack getting caught up in bitch ass rape cases with random sluts pac fucked already lol

@@toryronbrown9908he never blamed biggie clown

@@Sha_all1 that was tut

You're telling us what we already know and have heard, and even that is extremely embellished.."entire swag"?? Please..Birdie was wearing hockey jerseys, fatigues, flannels, bandanas, hoodies, and leather bomber jackets..which wasn't Haitian Jack's style at all back then

@@FlyAwayChi facts Haitian jack was more flashy look like straight out of dr or Haiti he wasn’t no typical grimy Brooklyn street Nigga

@@Asvpsupreme Exactly bro

He took a lil bit from all the dudes he was hanging around. He shadowed Jack to gain more access to the Brooklyn underworld which also helped his role in Bullet

You got the game all F'ed up. Disrespecting someone to their face or behind their back is a direct assault on them. By attempting to destroy someone's name you are telling people that this person is weak and being weak in this World gets you attacked or bullied; it's like telling a pack of hyenas that this lion is past his prime and he is ready to be attacked, killed, and eaten.

@@universalconquest4447 Sure, if you consider yourself an animal without rational or logical thought, which you clearly do.

Do you know why he was always rapping/talking about getting killed? Because he knew that was coming and embrace his fate like a true soldier.

@@kennethbest4640 so invite death to your door step and hanging with murderous Thugs makse you a true soldier?

He did know it. Everybody from Big to Mike Tyson to his manager to his own blood told him you can't be a successful rapper and hang w career criminals

@@futureflavors205 I remember around my old way thus kid was trying to be an MC and at the same time be in the streets and this street dude told him either you want to be in the streets or do music, you can't do both .... that was Tupac. It's ironic how Tupac (Bishop) in juice was fascinated by the way Blizzard went out. Could be the same said about Tupac in real life.

@@GRUSTLER I mean yeah, you can't deny most Pac relationships went left just like Bishop character. He died for clout(Juice)

Pac didn’t get Biggie killed. Biggie did that all on his own with the help of counter intelligence.

Puffy got Biggie killed

@@ricardosmith8419 that’s also possible but Pac knew Biggie had nothing to do with it but he rode the East Vs West wave which ultimately caused Biggies demise

No, Puffy being brazen trying to rub it in the West Coasts face got Biggie killed. He never should've been out in LA thinking everything was cool. They played with fire & got burned. It was Puffy's EGO that got Biggie killed.

@@Sha_all1 where is Tut from?

@@Sha_all1 Actually my bad, I was talking about Dexter Issac

He didn't. Pac knew that.

Puff.. that's how

​@@mr.getitdone6543 U can't prove what Puff knew. Stop listening to gene Deal

2pac man groupies coming for u

Because Biggie dissed and sent subliminals shortly after the shooting like the who shot ya track etc! So natural reaction is to retaliate especially if Biggie was supposed to be Pac friend. Instead Biggie became an enemy and Puffy plotted them against eachother

Biggie was being a snake as usual

I think it’s because the dudes who did this were extorting Bad Boy so Biggie was their meal ticket. I think that’s the real reason why he went so hard at Bad Boy records.

He was jealous

Biggie was riding with them kats Haitian Jack and Jimmy Henchman during that period, they're eating off the meals